This is DeliveranceMinisty.FM video cast number 35
Welcome to another episode of Deliverance Ministry.FM, where we give you proven insights
about the demonic realm and deliverance ministry so you can wage spiritual warfare more effectively.
Once again, Dr Don Ibbitson here again with my cohost and colleague, Dr Phyllis Tarbox.
Good to have you here Phyllis.
Yeah, we enjoy doing these.
We get to respond to some topics of thing people have sent in to us.
Sometimes we come up with them on our own.
And, uh, today's topic is, is really one of those, quite frankly, where we came up with
this, I came up with this is kind of, um, this topic is of five key elements of spiritual
I thought about it afterwards.
It's a little bit like herding cats.
I mean, we have had articles on posts and podcasts out there on the spiritual warfare
and different elements of it.
So the articles are out there and now what I want to try to do is to bring all these
together, heard them all together and probably something ideally you do ahead of time, right?
You do the overview article first and then you do the other articles, what we've done
But this is different.
We've got different articles out there about different aspects of spiritual warfare.
This one, we're going to tie them together kind of a high level fly by, if you like,
about um, elements of spiritual warfare.
And the reason is because as time goes on, the Lord shown is we're going to be writing
more in producing more, I think products and articles about spiritual warfare because I
think it's a topic that needs some more practical tools for people.
And that's part of our goal and there's a lot of people interested in there is you know,
a lot of churches and don't necessarily believe in deliverance ministry or talking about spiritual
And so we're increasing our focus on that.
We're not getting away or out of deliverance.
Ministry will continue to do that.
But we're going to expand to this and we'll see.
Deliverance Ministry is actually one of the elements of spiritual warfare, so that's the
purpose, kind of give a big picture and try to position it the way we see it and we've
done some looking in on what's out there and elements of spiritual warfare and it's, you
know, it was kind of diverse views and kind of a lot of the same pieces, but when I tried
to tie them all together, hopefully today for you and at least give you our perspective
on what we as believers should be focusing on and knowing about spiritual warfare.
So stay tuned for that.
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Alright, let's move right in to the discussion here today about five key elements of spiritual
warfare and as I really kind of hit on it already, fellas, that we.
We really want to try to tie the some of the content together that we've, we've, we've
had and, and develop more what I call kind of a nuts and bolts.
I love it.
I already have the picture in my head.
All the little above and beyond.
Kitties are all coming back together into the room.
I didn't know we had animals and I love animals and now we're going to gather them all
together for you guys.
I heard a cat, cats, cats are out there and I will bring them back in and I'm kind of
a, like I say in this session, just kind of an overview, a high level flyby in, in, in,
and even going forward.
Have other articles, so continue to expand on it, on about a spiritual warfare.
So let's start out right from the get go about, um, kind of spiritual warfare in the church
I know everybody's different people out there.
You don't go to church or some are different types of churches.
Maybe an evangelical, charismatic, pentecostal, and I appreciate everybody's all over the
But our experience about spiritual warfare that's being taught in the churches, it's,
it's, how would you, how would you characterize it?
Well, you know, that's not really been that effective.
You know, it's been out there with dribs and drabs of it.
Um, but that's not discussed that much.
I mean really it's kind of gone.
They churches fly right by it, right?
Or they don't, they don't offer you practical help on how to really get down to the nuts
and bolts is don likes to say and how to do it.
And then they'll talk about seat.
Maybe the issue is really not Satan.
Maybe it's demons.
So, you know, I think that's a good point.
I mean that, that's always been one of my sticking points is I contend that, you know,
people talk about Satan.
Well, you know, really that's as individuals, we're battling demons, spirits, you know,
there's a hierarchy, there are demon spirits when other podcasts out there, you can search
them in the catalog.
We talked about the nature of demons and you know, they have mines and wills and emotions
and there's a hierarchy and all these things.
And so, uh, you know, to, to expand on what you said about that, there's a lot of teaching.
And I'm pleased.
I don't mean to sound critical because I think I, I'm happy at least when churches talk about
spiritual warfare, you know, some people just don't even know there's a need for it.
Some have read somewhere where you don't need to do any spiritual warfare for that too.
I've read that the churches that teach spiritual warfare don't understand the intimacy of God.
And I just think that's scary.
Well, is exactly what we need.
We need both and they can say, we're not going to go down that path too far today because
um, you know, we had other, we've talked about that before, that it is a, it is a today thing.
Believers do need to be involved in spiritual warfare, um, but in to do it, we need to understand
Gavin understanding what are the elements, what are the, what are the summer, some tactics
and strategies that we can have and when, as I say, we don't have all those in place
now we're going to be adding an increased those going forward.
We hope to help you more.
There was, we've got a lot of things in some podcasts and whatnot now, but we hope to have
other tools coming to help you with that.
But I use the analogy of football.
You know, if you're a football fan and you can.
I am too.
We won our first game down here in Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay fans and to the soul.
We don't always get to cheer a lot on that, but what they did when we're happy with that
and you know, people can be a casual fan and I would consider that a casual fan.
I've never played football, I've never coached it.
I, but I understand the game and you and I, we can, a fan can need, cannot just a little
and not a great depth and still enjoy the game.
That's not it and that's fine, but here's the thing, if you're a coach or you're a player,
especially at the NFL level or I suppose even the college level, look at you gotTa, you
gotTa know your opponent and you have to know specific steps and things to do to be victorious.
Because that's what the enemy does.
He Studies, he studies the offense, right?
He wants to take, he wants to take the team out.
He doesn't want him to win, so we, we know we will.
We want to be a strategic offense, so we want to get yards.
We want to get points.
We want to make it down the field.
We want to wait all, you're really going down this football and managing kind of excited
because it's, you know, it's game week.
We just started our opening season and you know, but that's it.
You don't want to, you don't want to be enemies are demonic realm, right?
Yes he is.
And not, you know, it's the defense.
He's there to buffet you, to hold you back, keep you from getting where you need to go
and what you were designed to do and to keep you in that place of just burning out and
And I think that's it.
It's, and I guess you know the dictate to hopefully wrap up the football thing here.
We want to go into some depths in some plays and strategies to tactics and understand what
the other team is doing.
If you go play a football game, you can bet that they study what are the, what's your
opponent doing, what is their tendencies, what are their strategy?
And that's what I'm submit to you is very much lacking in the body of Chris.
We really don't understand the demonic realm.
We don't know how they operate, and so we're, we're really at a huge disadvantage.
And once again, if you've listened to other know articles and teachings, we're not demon
There's not demons everywhere.
Yes, we should be God focused, but gosh, there is an element of spiritual warfare and you
need to get learn.
We need to get educated and trained on these things.
And so that's what this is about.
What are the, this kind of a starting point, what are the five key elements of spiritual
And because ignorance is not bliss know we've mentioned before, Hosea four, six, my people,
God's people, God's speaking in the book of Hosea.
Hosea says, my people are perishing for lack of knowledge.
Ignorance is not bliss.
And there's other ministries, there's other resources, a lot of things out there trying
to help bring light into the darkness.
And so we're just happy to be part of that mix.
So let's start off with um, uh, you know, this is a working definition so far.
Maybe we'll tweak.
It enhances, we go.
This is not scripture.
It's not an errant and infallible, but it's something we're working with now.
Have a definition that we're going to use for spiritual warfare.
Bottom line is this, spiritual warfare for the believer comprises actions.
His actions, that's the key word against the demonic realm to secure and maintain the victory
over Satan and his kingdom that Jesus won on the cross.
Key points, specific actions, things we do, biases believers against the demonic realm
to secure and maintain.
We understand Jesus won the victory, but we need to appropriate take back and hold onto
It just doesn't all just kind of happen and that's part of the element of the spiritual
So that's the definition that we're going to be using going forward for spiritual warfare.
What are those things and what are the access to take?
And so let's jump right in and talk about the, what we consider to be the five key elements
of spiritual warfare.
And the first one is discerning spirit,
And then we talked about that a little bit on episode 13, that you can't fight what you
So we, we know it's a spiritual gifts, the discerning of spirits, you know, I pray for
a lot of people for that and First Corinthians 12, 10, it talks about that, that you'd be
able to discern the spirits and to test them.
So you've got to be able to have clear eyes to be able to see what you're fighting.
You got to know what's coming at you, who's Don said you got to do.
You've got to be able to be wise as a serpent and gentle as a dove and be able to take authority
over these things.
And that's one of the things I think we pray a lot for here with the sermons.
Um, I think that's where the enemy really likes to try to come in over a person and
bring them into places of critical.
Especially with the gift of discernment.
You can discern certain things going on in a person and yet you may fall into that critical
behavior where you're not, you're not bringing it back in prayer.
You're having fallen into agreement with the demonic realm or anything.
of knowing how to use it or a different.
Yeah, very different and so, but the key thing is having the gift of discerning the spirit
to be able to discern and the good news is it's a gift God gives.
We have to ask for it, give it gives generously, but then it's like any gift, whether it's
prophetic or healing, I believe you can be trained in it.
You got to learn how to use it.
You know, and you get better at it, right?
It's just not just not.
Certainly a switch that goes on and off and I'm convinced many people can discern a lot
more than they realize.
They see it.
They sort of words on it.
They just drew, but that's why it's a gift that can be home and so, but you start off
with the mindset that it's.
It is a spiritual gift.
God gives it its important.
Certainly important when first and deliverance ministry, but I can tell you it's important
for every believer to have it in their own life, to discern what's going on in their
family and their home situation.
Maybe in their work situations, right?
So that's one element.
Discerning of spirits, gotta be able to, cannot fight what you cannot see.
So that's one element of spiritual warfare.
The second element is resisting spirit,
And that's James Hore seven, you know, resist the enemy and he will flee, right?
Resist the devil and he will flee.
So not coming into agreement with them, resisting them, you know, taking authority over that.
That's all part of these elements of spiritual warfare is to resist them.
And how do you do that?
I mean the visual that we have is like, you know, the Bible talks about submitting to
God and resisting the devil.
It's like having your hands out on you can visual resisting and shooing away birds or
something, trying to come back and land on your head.
I mean, if that's, but you've got to resist them or what does that mean?
How do you do that?
And so, but it starts with discerning, right?
Because you can't fight what you can't see, but there is an element of resisting.
So what does that look like?
And once again, we'll talk more about that in some other podcasts and articles we'll
talk about how exactly do you resist spirits?
It doesn't mean you got to yell at them.
Does it mean you got to scream, you know, you get nasty and call state and bad names.
Is that resisting spirits?
So, but we need to do that third element of deliberate, of, um, of spiritual warfare is
binding spirits, binding spirits.
Matthew Sixteen, 19 talks about that, that Jesus is talking to Pete Peter, he says, I
give you authority to bind on earth that which has been, which has been bound in habit, right?
So our application of that scripture is that we believe we have authority to bind up the
And you know, even starting all this week, we should emphasize it, you know, one of the
precursors to spiritual warfare is recognizing and knowing that Jesus has given the church
power and authority over the demonic realm, that we have power and authority over the
Now the demonic spirits still have power.
They don't have authority and has been taken away.
And so, you know, once again, we're not going to get into that much here.
Other, other articles and things, we'll talk about that.
So the demonic spirits have power, but we have power.
One of them is to bind up the spirits.
And so the way we teach, one of the ways we teach that as how do you bind up spirits?
So what's an example of how we teach people at binding up spirits and people.
Well bind them up with the blood of Jesus Christ, right?
You bind them up and
give an example.
Like if somebody say they're got a husband or a husband or they see the spirits of anger
or control and you've got, you know, you're trying to help counsel the wife, let's say,
how to do spiritual warfare over husband.
Like what sort of things would you give her two?
Well, you know, you need to do, you need to discern what spirits are operating in the
husband and, and then you can prayerfully your own prayer time away from the husband,
not in front of him.
Never speak the demons out in front of them.
Um, in your prayer time, bind up what is operating in him.
So you would say, I bind up every spirit of anger, bitterness, control, offense, whatever
it is, it's that's tormenting him.
You bind it up with the blood of Jesus Christ and then you loose upon him what it is that
you want to see manifest that what fruit of the Holy Spirit love, joy, peace.
So binding and loosing, that's actually going to help him come back to himself.
You're not manipulating him.
You're actually manipulating the demons so you're binding down the demons so that your
husband's spirit will come back sore and you know his, the, the good side of him.
We'll come back and he'll be actually more a back to himself as God created him to be.
So these, because these spirits are in an operation now binding and loosing are temporary.
They don't, they don't last forever.
You're not deriving the demons out because that takes a person's freewill agreement.
But in the meantime, you know, you can bring him back to his senses by binding up these
demons that are trying to steal a senses and losing on him the Holy Spirit, and then you'll
see, you know, he'll come back to that place of peace where there would be a good conversation
and things that you're looking.
Yeah, I mean, I think that's such an important point to emphasize binding demons.
Binding spirits is not, is not deliverance.
It's making them an and, and for example, as a sample prayer, I would say something
like, you know, I can the name of Jesus, I bind up those demon spirits of anger and control.
And in Mary I'm binding.
You dabbled with the blood of Jesus and Lord, I loose your Holy Spirit upon Mary.
Lord, I pray that you will reveal yourself to her.
Lord, I pray that you will sure how much you love her.
You will bring her to that point of repins, just that sort of thing.
And once again, it's not a formula, but it's an notion of binding the demons, losing the
The Holy Spirit can do what he wants to do in that person's life and and you and you
speaking those out and you know, so that's, that's one element.
That's an element of spiritual warfare.
You're going after the demonic realm and invoking him loosing the Holy Spirit upon that situation.
So once again, that that's an element.
So that's the third one.
We got discerning spirits, resisting spirits binding spirits, and the fourth element is
one we're all familiar with and we spent a lot of time out and that it's time on and
in certainly in the articles and whatnot is driving out spirits.
That's the fourth one.
And that is the Ministry of delivering
And that's what we do.
So you know, that's where you would actually submit yourself under a authority deliverance
ministry or a counselor and come in and do your homework and get those spirits called
You know that where we actually sit down and we command with the blood of Jesus Christ
after the doors are shot and every place where they've come in, weak man, those spirits to
leave, they go and then we released the Holy Spirit for him to be operative on the person
in those spirits won't come back.
I mean, you know, that's the key.
As long as you're being obedient, but we want to derive those spirits out.
So deliverance ministry is, you know, we've
got a lot on that, but deliverance ministry is freeing the person from the demonic spirits.
Definitely an important aspect of the women's ministry.
And of course we believe in so strongly that's so necessary.
That's part of our focus is not only doing it as I was talking about where we will train
and teach you how to do that.
People, the body of Christ is crying out for people to learn how it can be trained to do
deliverance, ministry and, and it's like any of the, the elements you can be trained in
that you get better at it.
Between the two of us have done thousands of deliverances and and literally we're still
learning and we're still, I'm believe getting more competent adult learning stuff, but it's
something you can learn how to do, but it is an element of spiritual warfare for sure.
Driving spirits out of people.
So that's the fourth element in the fifth element that we're, that we'll touch on is
basically I'm interceding against spirits and that's more of the one to be clear with
what we're talking about.
The second heaven warfare.
And that's Ephesians 6:12.
You can look at that scripture.
Paul talks about spiritual forces of evil.
He talks about in the heavenly realms and on this darker world.
And so that's in the second and that's where the powers and principalities, our talks about
Daniel 10, 13 that brought the prince of the Persian kingdom.
We're not going to spend a lot on there.
I'm just laying that out there.
There are ministries, there are people that focus on that sort of thing.
Um, in France and France.
Japan has materials on there.
Um, there's other ministers and people that talk about doing that kind of warfare, intercession
in the second heaven.
Um, well we're not asking our focus, so we're not going to be talking much about that.
And I guess the one point I would make is we, we do counsel, encourage people.
I think it's an element of spiritual warfare where you need to be careful and know what
you're doing and, and, um, and not get out of your lane.
And uh, you know, I recommend a book called needless casualties of war written by John
I just, it's like anything, it's like deliverance minister say you should know what you're doing
and before you do anything.
And it's so, um, and, but so that's an element.
There's people that do that and doing principalities and spiritual forces of strongholds over cities
and over nations and churches.
And it's like, I think that's an element of spiritual warfare very needed to.
And it's, it's, yeah, we don't do it.
We're not, I mean we don't focus on it here, but we wanted to mention it, been out there
because there are, if that's something you're called, you want to be trained up in it, just
like any of these funds are an epistolic leader that is trained up, just go running out on
Exactly, so those are what we see as as kind of the five elements of spiritual warfare,
discerning of spirits, resisting spirits, binding spirits, driving out spirits and interceding
against spirits once again in the second heaven.
Because the first heaven where we live, we have power and authority over them.
Jesus has given us, we don't need to ask God to do things to the demonic realm in the first
happened here where we live because we've been given the authority to drive out free
spirits, resists spirits, okay, bind spirits.
He's given us all that we need, but it's in that second habit that we're talking about
and so those are the five elements.
Once again, we'll be expanding on those in the future.
We've got articles and things out there on that that you can find and see right now.
So, but that's kind of a framework for, for, for kind of moving ahead the cats.
Kind of herding the cats, you know, on these under back kind of back in the Kennel if you
And the, the five elements, so kind of a framework enroll quite honestly is, you know, tweak
it as we go forward.
If there's something else we need to change or tweak.
I mean we will do that, but I think right now we're pretty comfortable with this.
These elements is kind of grouping of have elements of spiritual warfare.
I thought it would be appropriate even as we get ready to end this podcast is things
we've seen is about spiritual warfare.
There's different opinions on out there on what spiritual warfare is and isn't an, we're
just going to share some things from our perspective that, uh, that we considered not to be elements
of spiritual warfare.
When the first one would be speaking in tongues, because that's a, that's a gift, you know,
but a lot of people will say, you know, when you speak in tongues that spiritual warfare,
now we know that, you know, the speaking in tongues, they were speaking a heavenly language
and we could be commissioning angels to go out on assignment, but typically speaking
in tongues is, you know, you're, you're in your private prayer time is your conversation
with the perfect language between you and God and the demons don't understand.
No they don't.
So they're not going to respond to that.
So once again, powerful discipline, but not spiritual warfare.
We hear a lot about some people what were rebuking demons.
You don't want to rebuke.
Um, I want to suggest to you that you can recast or look at rebuking in two different
Um, well first of all, let's start with a definition.
When you see the definition of rebuking, it means to express sharp disapproval or criticism
of someone because of their behavior or actions.
So I'm convinced some people think of rebuking.
Diemonds is like talking nasty to.
So talking to St, seriously, they want to yell and, and, um, you know, get mad at the
devils and rebuked demons.
And John Paul Jackson calls that throwing hatchets at the moon.
Yes, Jesus rebuked the demon in Luke 4:41.
But what he really did is he commanded that demon not to speak, which I would contend
is more like binding up that spirit in that person.
And then another instance of Luke four, 39, he rebuked the fever and it left her.
So I'm convinced I would suggest that that's more deliverance.
He drove the spirits out so we don't see.
And once again, I appreciate maybe some folks have some different views.
We're not in the mode of while rebuking demons, we just say, no, let's bind them up or let's
call them out, let's do these other things.
And then finally, um, another element that we consider really important discipline but
not part of spiritual warfare is
So fascinating is, um, it's not necessary for this spirits to leave.
And a lot of people will refer to a certain scripture that says only some of these spirits
go by fasting.
Um, you know, that that was a big talking really about the unbelief of the person, you
know, fasting is a, is a discipline that you do where you can hear from God and it encourages
you and it brings you into that greater area of intimacy and bulk and belief and trust.
And it builds, builds up, builds up your, um, you know, you're the presence of God,
your spirit man.
But it's, but it's not, it's not a necessary component of spiritual warfare for the to
help the demons leave.
Really it's for your belief.
And once again, we were covering it quickly here, but look at the episode 27, listen to
episode 27 and we, there's other podcasts or other articles that we have on there that
you can look under that, where we address that and give you our perspective on, on.
I'm fasting as it relates to deliverance.
So not an element of spiritual warfare.
Um, you know, I guess by way of conclusion, I would just say that we're, we're, we're
in a war, you know, we're still called to fight.
Ignorance is not bliss.
Bliss and the, and the principles and the tactics can be learned.
That's the good news.
You know, it's not like, well, maybe I'm not as spiritual warfare.
I'm not into that.
I'm not going to do that.
I think if you're not in it, there's a good, there's a very likely chance you might get
taken out because lots of people get taken out.
There's lots of casualties.
People, people get taken out.
Just look around.
There's ministries, parish marriages in.
I believe people die.
I believe people can get taken out early.
They die before their time.
God allows it because they get taken out.
So we got to learn.
If we don't learn how to be effective in spiritual warfare, I think it's a very dangerous thing.
So I want to encourage you to make the time, make the effort, make the investment in time
and effort, um, in, in learning and get good resources about spiritual warfare.
There's some good things out there.
Um, but you know, and I just say we're committed to providing our own, but just be careful
because all that glitters is not gold and there's some stuff out there.
I think that that's, you know, someone's not bad, it's just like a, I can't get my teeth
into this one.
How does this translate into, you know, there's a lot of arm waving and smoke, but it's like,
well, how do I apply this into my, into my own personal life?
And that's what I think you really want to have.
So I think that's an important thing.
And don't, and don't let fear keep you on the wrong side of the, you know, the Jordan
here, you know, that.
I think that's what the enemy would love for you to do, is to duck your head and fear and
look at the giants and say, I can't do that.
That's not for me.
But you know what?
Everybody's got a voice and you know, even if you have a still a little voice, like a
dental voice, you're, you know, you're, you're very powerful for the, for the spirit's spiritual
realm of God.
And so I would say, you know, pressing and learn what you can hang with us.
We'll go through more of this as we go.
And like Don said, we have a lot of information out there on it already and get a good sound
base for it because it's times getting darker folks.
And I think we need to be her game plan.
And I think the fear point is, is really important.
You know, a lot of people are so afraid of the demonic realm because they don't know,
they don't understand and they haven't been taught.
It comes back to how much has been taught in the church and look at, we should not be
God's not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love.
And a sound mind.
Well, if you've got a sound mind and it's full of knowledge and wisdom that's going
to help you know, drive away the fear you shouldn't, we should not be afraid it'd be
wise, but we should not be afraid.
And so operating and fears, that's, that's a good watchword.
Alright, hope you found that helpful and a good starting point for maybe you're a midpoint
or moving ahead in your own expansion of knowledge of spiritual warfare.
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It's called the the the warrior partners page.
An opportunity for you to link up with us financially through one time or monthly giving
we'll just get it set up for you automatically to help us develop a really have a scholarship
fund to help people who may be to subsidize their deliverance ministry.
We have the monthly seminars that are free here in Tampa and we have continued to have
those, but this will be for people who maybe need one on one, maybe don't have the resources,
we will figure out how to administer that fairly.
So that's the first element in the second element is to help us make the financial investment
in, in material, in resources, to develop a training materials, videos, teachings to
help people worldwide in deliverance ministry.
We use a five step.
We do have resources for training and teaching people, even in children's deliverance ministry
and you know, we want to enhance it, update and add to these or overtime, including elements
of spiritual warfare.
So as you can invest in that, it will help us to move that program forward in an expeditious
Well, you know, deliverance was one third of Jesus's ministry and so when you partner
with a deliverance group like that, you know, you're, you're gonna be moving in part of
that part of his ministry so you know, you'll, you'll be happy later that we got that money
out of your, your wallet.
They didn't just sit there, go to buy a meal at down at the store, you're going to be actually
helping set captives free, and so you're going to be blessed and that's an awesome piece
And that's true.
And I believe no one, we're blowing our own horn here a little bit, but I want to encourage
you, do your research, look up, check out our success stories we have on the website
we have from students who been through the bootcamp, we've got testimonials, success
stories from people who've been through the Ministry of how deliverance has helped them.
So I think it's important.
Deliverance has been in neglected ministry in some measure in the body of Christ.
I think it's coming to the forefront and there's people out there who need to get trained on
I don't want to get trained on it, so I'm just happy to be part of that stream.
So with that, we'll, um, we'll conclude this podcast.
We hope you enjoyed it.
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