AFTER THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED THAT THERE WAS A DRAFT
EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR TORTURE BY THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT, IT TURNS OUT SOME OF THE TOP OFFICIALS IN TRUMP'S
ADMINISTRATION WERE BLINDSIDED AND UNAWARE.
IT TURNS OUT THAT
TRUMP HIMSELF AND A SPOKESPERSON SAYS THIS WAS NOT COMING FROM
THE WHITE HOUSE, WE DID NOT DRAFT THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER.
THEY
ARE DENYING IT, BUT DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THE FACT
THAT HE IS IN FAVOR OF TORTURE AND DOES WANT OUR MILITARY TO
USE TORTURE AS A FORM OF ENHANCED INTERROGATION.
WITH THAT ALL SAID --
I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING.
DO YOU BELIEVE TRUMP AND SPICER
WHEN THEY SAY IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE?
WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT THAT IS?
OF COURSE I DON'T BELIEVE THEM, I SAW DONALD TRUMP ON ABC
YESTERDAY TELL ME THAT HE'S IN FAVOR OF WATERBOARDING AND
TORTURE.
DID THEY MAKE IT UP?
I KNOW ANYTHING HE SAYS LATER THEY
WILL CLAIM HIS FAKE NEWS, BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T BE TAKEN
LITERALLY AND THERE ARE ALTERNATIVE FACTS, BUT WE SAW
WITH OUR OWN EYES HIM SAYING HE'S IN FAVOR OF.
OF COURSE
THERE WAS A DRAFT ORDER, THE NEW YORK TIMES DIDN'T MAKE THAT UP,
AND EVEN IF THEY DID -- I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO GET INTO EVEN IF
THEY DID, THAT'S ABSURD TO TALK -- IF YOU ARE A TRUMP SUPPORTER,
DID YOU APPLAUD HIM YESTERDAY WHEN HE TOLD DAVID MUIR THAT HE
WAS IN FAVOR OF THOSE EXTREME TACTICS?
I CAN'T SEE HOW THEY COULD DENY IT.
IT'S KIND OF INCREDIBLE.
BUT ANOTHER THING TO KEEP IN MIND,
AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE PART OF THE STORY, IS HOW MUCH DIVIDE
THERE IS IN CONGRESS WHEN IT COMES TO THIS ISSUE.
WHEN YOU
HEAR SOMETHING LIKE TORTURE, WATERBOARDING, SOME OF THE
TACTICS THAT WERE USED UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION YOU WOULD
THINK, YOU WON'T HAVE MEMBERS OF THE GOP SPEAK OUT AGGRESSIVELY
AGAINST THIS.
BUT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SENATORS WHO ARE
SAYING NO, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE WILL WE DO THIS FORM OF ENHANCED
INTERROGATION.
JOHN MCCAIN HAS BEEN THE MOST VOCAL, AND I GIVE
HIM A LOT OF CREDIT FOR THIS.
HE SAID --
JOHN MCCAIN WAS A VICTIM OF TORTURE HIMSELF FOR YEARS WHEN
HE WAS A PRISONER OF WAR, SO HE UNDERSTANDS THAT IT DOESN'T
WORK, IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA, IT BREAKS INTERNATIONAL LAWS, SO I
AGAIN APPLAUD HIM FOR MAKING THAT STATEMENT.
SENATOR JOHN
THUNE MADE A SIMILAR STATEMENT, HE SAID --
AND BY THE WAY, LET ME BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING -- DONALD
TRUMP CAN'T UNILATERALLY CALL FOR TORTURE.
YOU NEED CONGRESS
TO VOTE ON IT.
TRUMP IS CRAZY AND IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE HE
CARES MUCH ABOUT LAWS SO I GUESS HE COULD DO THINGS UNILATERALLY
AND NOT REALLY FACE ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR IT.
THAT'S THE THING, HE MIGHT FACE CONSEQUENCES FOR IT.
IF YOU
BREAK THE LAW, YOU COULD GET IMPEACHED IF YOU ACTUALLY HAD
POLITICAL OPPONENTS WHO CARED, OR EVEN ALLIES WHO CARED, ABOUT
THE RULE OF LAW.
LET BETWEEN THE BACKGROUND AND THEN I WILL TELL
YOU WHY THIS STORY IS IMPORTANT FOR TWO DIFFERENT REASONS.
WHEN
OBAMA FIRST CAME IN HE PROMISED THAT HE WOULD END THE ERROR OF
TORTURE AND WATERBOARDING AND HE DID, HE SIGNED AN EXECUTIVE
ORDER RIGHT AWAY.
FOR THE RIGHT-WING CRITICS OF OBAMA AND
HIS EXECUTIVE ORDERS, I KNOW YOU ALL THOUGHT IT WAS
UNCONSTITUTIONAL BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU LOVE TRUMP'S EXECUTIVE
ORDERS, BUT THAT ARNIE SINK IN, BUT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE THAT
ISN'T RELEVANT ANYMORE.
BECAUSE IN 2015 THEY TOOK THAT ORDER AND
MADE AN AMENDMENT TO A DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL, IT'S NOW
LAW.
CONGRESS VOTED ON IT, IT'S THE LAW, WHEN DOING
INTERROGATION WE MUST FOLLOW THE ARMY FIELD MANUAL WHICH
PROHIBITS TORTURE AND WATERBOARDING AND MUST ALLOW THE
RED CROSS TO INSPECT THE DETAINEES.
TRUMP HAS ALSO SAID
HE WILL APPARENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE STORY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
HERE, NOT ALLOW THE RED CROSS TO EXAMINE DETAINEES.
THE ONLY
REASON YOU WOULDN'T LET THEM EXAMINE THEM IS BECAUSE YOU'VE
TORTURED THEM OR DONE SOMETHING HORRIFIC TO THEM.
TRUMP IS
CLEAR, HE'S ON THE RECORD, HE SAID IT YESTERDAY INTERNATIONAL
INTERVIEW.
REASON NUMBER ONE WHY THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STORY IS HE
IS SO UNPREPARED, IT'S FRIGHTENING.
BECAUSE ANY
RATIONAL POLITICIAN WOULD THINK, OKAY, WHAT DID POMPEO AND
SESSIONS AS WELL, BY THE WAY, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, HE'S ON
THE RECORD, HE SAID DURING HIS CONFIRMATION PROCEEDINGS,
BECAUSE REMEMBER HE'S GOING TO BE THE TOP LAWYER IN THE
COUNTRY, HEAD OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, HE SAID THAT THE
2015 LAW I REFERENCED, QUOTE, MAKES IT IMPROPER AND ILLEGAL TO
USE WATERBOARDING OR ANY OTHER FORM OF TORTURE.
THAT IS
INCOMING ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS WHO SAID THAT A COUPLE
DAYS AGO.
A PREPARED PRESIDENT WOULD HAVE CHECKED, HEY, WHAT
DID SESSIONS PROMISE, WHAT DID MATTIS, MY DEFENSE SECRETARY,
PROMISE, WHAT DID POMPEO, THE CIA DIRECTOR, PROMISE?
IN THEIR
CONFIRMATION PROCEEDINGS THEY DEFINITIVELY SAID ON THE RECORD
THEY WOULD NOT DO TORTURE OR WATERBOARDING.
SO IF YOU'RE
GOING TO THROW A CURVEBALL, DO A DRAFT MEMO OR GO ON ABC AND SAY
SCREW THAT, I'M GOING TO DO TORTURE, YOU WOULD CHECK WITH
THEM FIRST AND YOU WOULD TELL THEM, LOOK, HERE'S THE MESSAGING
WE WILL DO FOR NOW ON.
I KNOW I PUT YOU IN A TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE
YOU SAID PUBLICLY YOU WOULDN'T DO IT, BUT I'M THE PRESIDENT AND
I WANT TO DO TORTURE -- YOU WOULD PREPARE HOW TO HANDLE
THAT.
BUT HE'S A CLOWN, HE DOESN'T DO ANY HOMEWORK.
HE'S
JOFFREY.
HE IS LIKE, I WANT TO DO TORTURE, WHY WON'T THEY LET
ME?
I HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION ON WHY HE IS SO INCREDIBLY
UNPREPARED.
THERE WAS A REPORT THAT GOT PUBLISHED RECENTLY
ABOUT HIGH LEVEL MEETINGS AMONG THE OFFICIALS IN THE
ADMINISTRATION AND HOW DONALD TRUMP WILL DO OUT OF THOSE
MEETINGS BECAUSE HE HAS TO CALL JOE SCARBOROUGH AT MORNING JOE.
HE'S OBSESSED WITH CABLE NEWS.
I DON'T KNOW KIND OF CONVERSATIONS
THEY ARE HAVING, I THINK IT'S SUPER WEIRD THAT THEY ARE TAKING
PLACE, I THINK IT'S VERY DANGEROUS FOR THE PRESIDENT TO
SKIPPED OUT ON, OR LEAVE, HIGH-LEVEL MEETINGS LIKE THAT
WHERE HE WOULD BE BRIEFED ON THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT, ON
SITUATIONS WHERE HE SHOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE
SAME INDIVIDUALS HE NOMINATED IN THESE HIGH-LEVEL POSITIONS.
HE'S IN A LOT OF TROUBLE.
CAN YOU REALLY GO FOR YEARS WITHOUT,
LIKE, PREPARING ANYTHING WHEN YOU ARE THE MOST POWERFUL MAN ON
EARTH?
CAN YOU BLUNDER INTO ONE DECISION AFTER ANOTHER WITHOUT
CHECKING WITH ANYBODY OR DOING YOUR HOMEWORK?
IT IS GOING TO BE
AN EPIC DISASTER.
THAT LEAVES POINT NUMBER TWO AS TO WHY THE
STORY IS SO IMPORTANT -- BECAUSE NOW WE SEE SIGNIFICANT
REPUBLICAN PUSHBACK.
I KNOW HE PREFERS PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT
CAPTURED, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID ABOUT JOHN MCCAIN, BUT JOHN
MCCAIN IS RESPECTED IN CONGRESS, ESPECIALLY AMONG REPUBLICANS, SO
WHEN JOHN MCCAIN SAYS I DON'T CARE WHAT DONALD TRUMP DOES, WE
WON'T AUTHORIZE TORTURE -- THERE IS A LOT OF WEIGHT TO THAT.
THAT'S NOT JUST A FLIPPANT COMMENT OR A LIBERAL MEMBER
WHERE REPUBLICANS CAN JUST SAY I DON'T CARE, WE'VE GOT THE
FILIBUSTER -- NO, HE'S INSTRUMENTAL IN THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY.
AND WHEN THE NUMBER THREE GUY IN THE PARTY SAYS IT'S
SETTLED LAW, WE ARE DONE WITH THAT, NOW WE ARE AT LOGGERHEADS.
DEMOCRATIC OPINION, YOU COULD SAY THAT IS YOUR OPINION, MAN --
REPUBLICAN OPINION, THEY CONTROL CONGRESS.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN
WHICH DIRECTION THIS WILL GO AND HOW IT'S GOING TO END, BUT WE
WILL FIND OUT PARTLY BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE.
IF THE JOHN THUNES
OF THE WORLD EVENTUALLY TURN AROUND AND GO, SORRY, DEAR
LEADER, AND SUBMIT TO TRUMP, OH BOY.
THERE ARE NO BRAKES IN THE
CAR AND WE WILL CAREEN OUT OF CONTROL.
BUT IF THEY MAKE A
STAND AND SAY MR.
PRESIDENT, WE WILL FOLLOW THE LAW, AND IF YOU
WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A BILL WE ARE HAPPY TO DISCUSS IT AND VOTE
ON IT, THEN OKAY, YOU GOT YOUR FIRST CHECK ON DONALD TRUMP,
WHICH IS A GOOD THING FOR THE COUNTRY, AND LATER IF HE
CONTINUES TO GO WILDLY OUT OF CONTROL, COULD BE THE BEGINNING
OF THE END FOR HIM AS MORE AND MORE REPUBLICAN VOTES LINE UP
AGAINST HIM.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS, AND QUITE HONESTLY MY
PESSIMISTIC SIDE, WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF WHO I AM WHEN IT
COMES TO THIS ISSUE, SAYS EVENTUALLY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
WILL REALIZE JUST HOW POWERFUL DONALD TRUMP IS IN MANIPULATING
THE CONVERSATION -- BECAUSE LIKE ABOUT IT, YOU HAVE TO THINK
ABOUT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN VOTER AND THE TYPES OF VOTERS WHO WENT
FOR SOMEONE LIKE DONALD TRUMP.
THINK ABOUT HOW EASY OF A SELL
IT IS IF YOU ARE DONALD TRUMP.
YOU GO TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
AND TELL THEM, LOOK AT JOHN MCCAIN -- HE WANTS US TO TREAT
THESE TERRORISTS FAIRLY.
HE WANTS US TO TREAT THEM WITH KID
GLOVES.
HE'S SO GOOD AT MANIPULATING THE CONVERSATION, SO I FEEL
LIKE IT MIGHT BE A POLITICAL RISK FOR PEOPLE LIKE JOHN
MCCAIN TO DO THE RIGHT THING IN THIS CASE.
IT IS DEFINITELY A POLITICAL RISK.
FOR A WHILE JOHN MCCAIN
WAS SWEATING HIS OWN ELECTION IN ARIZONA, THAT WAS ALSO THIS YEAR
-- OR LAST YEAR NOW -- BECAUSE HE SAID SOME THINGS AGAINST
DONALD TRUMP AND HAD THAT BEEF WITH HIM.
REPUBLICAN VOTERS LIKE
TRUMP A LOT, HE HAD TO BACKPEDAL OUT OF THERE, NOW HE DOESN'T
FACE REELECTION FOR ANOTHER SIX YEARS AND BY THEN TRUMP MIGHT BE
IMPEACHED THREE TIMES OVER.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW, SO WHAT I'M
SAYING IS THE RESISTANCE IN CONGRESS HAS BEGUN, IT MIGHT END
QUICKLY, AND THEN OH BOY, HE'S GOING TO RUN ROUGHSHOD.
OR IT
BECOMES REAL AND MULTIPLIES.
THAT RIGHT THERE IS AN EXCELLENT
INDICATION OF WHAT THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, IF IT'S FOUR YEARS, WILL
BE.
TODAY I WAS TALKING TO REPORTER, HE SAID YOU ARE FAMOUS
FOR PREDICTIONS -- I WAS LIKE, AM I?
HE WAS LIKE, MAKE A
PREDICTION OF WHAT HAPPENS TO TRUMP.
BUT YOU NEED FACTS BEFORE
YOU MAKE A PREDICTION, I HAVE ALL THE FACTS IN THE WORLD ABOUT
WHO TRUMP IS, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REACTION WILL BE.
WILL
REPUBLICANS BOW THEIR HEADS, OR WILL THEY USE HIM FOR ALL THE
TAX CUTS, ALL THE GIVEAWAYS TO THE CORPORATIONS, THE
DEREGULATION, AND THEN WHEN THEY ARE DONE WITH HIM, GO, YEAH,
THIS CRAZY GUY, WE DIDN'T MEAN IT.
BESIDES WHICH, HE'S NOT
REALLY A REPUBLICAN.
AND THEN THROW HIM ASIDE.
THEY MIGHT BE
FORCED TO DO IT, BUT IF THEY DO THEY WILL PILLAGE THE GOVERNMENT
AND PRETEND IT WAS TRUMP WHEN IN REALITY IT WAS THE DONORS
WHO ASKED FOR IT.
ALSO, THINK OF MITT ROMNEY, NIKKI HALEY, ALL THE PEOPLE --
THINK OF PAUL RYAN, ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ADAMANTLY
AGAINST HIM, AND LATER ON WERE MONKEYS GIVING TRUMP THEIR
BANANAS.
THAT'S IT, THE AIR OF NICKNAMES IS ON.
I ALREADY LIKE
NICKNAMES, I LIKE FUN AND COOL NICKNAMES -- A LOT OF PEOPLE
DON'T REALIZE THAT WHEN WE DID #LOSERDONALD WE WERE MOCKING
DONALD TRUMP FOR COMING UP WITH GOOFY AND OVERLY SIMPLISTIC
NICKNAMES, THEY THINK COME ON, CENK, THAT'S TOO SIMPLISTIC --
THAT THE POINT.
SO FOR NOW ON HE'S REEK ROMNEY.
AND IT'S
DONALD JOFFREY TRUMP, AND MORNING NAMES TO COME.
WATCH
YOURSELF, IF YOU GET TOO MANY ENEMIES THERE IS A PURPLE FUTURE
-- POLITICALLY.
POLITICALLY.
THERE IS NOT ENOUGH DATA YET BUT
THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS FOR TRUMP, SO THIS LEADS TOWARD HIS DAYS
MIGHT BE NUMBERED.
ALSO BECAUSE HE SO GODDAMN UNSTABLE.
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