♫♫
-We´re gonna do this old-school, sir.
Jersey to Memphis -- no navigation, no ways.
Got these maps online.
Now, William, you´re gonna be my lead navigator.
All that I ask is that you stay ahead of me.
If we got a turn coming up, let´s get ahead of it.
Got to merge onto a busy highway, get me --
-Let me see those. -Yep. There you go.
Hey!
-Hey, just drive, son. We´ll get there.
-[ Sighs ]
-Just drive.
-It was wonderful because I think we both knew
that we were gonna be able to do some really great work.
-Sure.
-And it was exciting to think about that.
But we also both knew that the way we work,
once we´re in it, it´s like you open up,
and then stuff just starts to flood out.
-Right.
It was an intense, wonderful day.
Like, all I had to do was look into Ron´s eyes,
and I´m like, "All right, we´re here."
-We´re locked in. -Making it happen.
It was really nice to leave that.
[ Both laugh ]
To go away from that and then actually do the road trip.
-That´s right.
To get on the plane and go another location.
-Absolutely.
There was a real sense of joy being on location in Memphis.
-Oh, man.
-Eating the barbecue. Big up to Memphis.
-That was a great day. It was a beautiful day.
-It was wonderful.
-And the weather was nice that day.
-The weather was gorgeous. Weather was gorgeous.
And we had so much freedom to play
because John and Glenn, they said, "Just riff."
-That´s right.
-So we went to the barbershop. -The barbershop was riffing.
-We went to the thrift store. -Riffing.
-Just on the street.
And so it´s nice to see that some of those things
actually made it into the episode.
-It was so jazzy, man, like a jazz improvisation.
-Right.
-Thank you for doing what I couldn´t...
for raising him to be the man he is.
I´m sorry I didn´t get a chance to meet you, brother.
I would have liked to have heard that laugh.
[ Chuckles ]
I would have liked to have met my son´s father.
-And then getting to Jack
and you having to go through that twice in your life
as the character, to lose two fathers, you know?
-Yeah.
-And I think that was one of the feelings
that William had is to bond that idea
so that his adopted father and biological father
didn´t have that much distance between his emotions.
-Sure.
-By going to where Jack was laid to rest,
that little memorial spot kind of brought the two fathers
closer.
-You know what I liked about the moment, too,
is that we were -- like, Randall has all these plans.
He´s got all these ideas of how things are supposed to go.
And William´s like, "You know what, man?"
You want to see God laugh, show him your plans.
-That´s right. -You know what I´m saying?
So, we take a journey half day out of the way
because you know from the beginning
this is it.
-Yeah, man. -Right?
-You wanted to go and pay your respects.
-My treasure. -Yeah?
Well, what is it?
-A few toys and three quarters.
-Yeah, no, I see that. I mean --
-I put them here once, and after all these years later,
they´re still here.
Isn´t that something?
Isn´t that strange how the world sticks and moves like that?
-Three quarters.
-It´s just, "I put it here one time, and it´s still here."
-Still here. -You know?
I think there´s something -- like, it sounds really simple,
but there´s really something special about knowing
that something that you placed is still in the world.
Right?
And so, you give me that, and then you give me poems,
the book of poems that you´ve written for me.
And we saw that book of poems in the past already,
when Rebecca went to go visit you as a young man.
So, like, your whole life...
-He´s been building on that.
-You know? -That´s right.
-I get to have it.
Like, it´s really -- -It´s profound, man.
-It is.
-Even the treasure moment, it´s almost like you could say
he put you someplace, and then years later,
he comes back, and you´re still there.
-Sure.
-Despite your anger, despite your resentment,
when he opened that door the first time and saw you,
that moment is like you´re still here.
-I´m a little scared.
[ Groans ]
-[ Sniffles ]
-[ Coughs ]
-You´re okay, Dad. -Mm-hmm.
-You´re good. -[ Crying ]
-Just breathe.
-I think the crazy thing about it
is while we were shooting this thing,
I was thinking about my dad, right?
My dad passed away when I was 10.
And because I was 10, I never got to go to the hospital.
Like, they thought I was too young,
so they let all the adults go.
My brother and sister are 14, 13 years older than me,
so they were there.
But it was a really powerful moment to have that opportunity
to be there.
And so, like, I would look at you,
and I would see you, and I would see my dad.
You know what I´m saying?
-You know, it´s funny, Sterling,
because all those scenes are almost pseudo-therapeutic,
and we both know as actors one of the bravest things to do
is to be able to open yourself up
and let a lot of that personal stuff come to the fore
as opposed to acting it.
-Right.
-And that´s always scary because you really don´t know
what´s gonna come up.
-Right. -And you´re open.
And so the floodgates are open,
and so one of the fears is that whatever comes up,
you hope you can hold it together while the camera´s on.
-Absolutely.
-And the joy of being with someone you love
in the last moments of your life.
-Yeah.
-And I think for me that was the hardest,
because my major connection,
not only as an actor but as a character,
is with you.

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