you know, everyone in all the actions
they are doing seem to just trying to
be happy, achieve happiness. What is
happiness actually? If you would
understand what happiness is then you
will see that this chase of happiness is
doomed. You cannot reach to happiness
with this chase of happiness, with this
pursuit of happiness. You need to
understand what you're really
looking for and if you introspect
sincerely, carefully, you with all your
brutal honesty, you will not say that
it's happiness, you will know that there
is something which is more deeper which
you cannot explain, which you cannot put
into words. You use the words happiness
because you don't know anything else to
express this search with. Do you agree to
that? Yes I absolutely agree maybe a
closer word would be contentment also
something some inner peace or something.
Yeah it is actually, if you think about
it, if you introspect that right now, you
will see that you are actually searching
for yourself. You are, to be to put this
in another way you are in a state of a
search and actually human being or being
human it is in fact a state of search
not that the human being is searching
for something but the human itself is a
state of search. If you see animals they
are not searching for anything, they are
you know, once their survival is met
they are not searching anything more. And
this
human state is a transition from
that animal consciousness to the
Buddha consciousness as they say where all
search ends and there is no, there's
nothing in you that is right now in
transition or is looking for something
and in that state there is happiness,
there is contentment. So happiness does
exist it's not a projection or is it
just a word to describe a state which
everyone defines differently or I mean?
It depends how you want to define it. I
mean to me that's not the, that's
not the concern of anybody or that
shouldn't be the concern of anybody.
First thing is one should ask what
exactly are they looking for? Is it
really happiness or something else? And
on that way maybe they're just you know
keeping themselves busy with saying they
want to be happy, it's just the more
immediate and more; yeah it's the
day-to-day requirement to you know to
have the pleasures of life and
that's what gives you happiness and, but
that's not the end of story and that's
not the cause of this inner search.
So you're saying this inner search and
does this search ever end? Yes it does,
it did for Buddha it did for all other
enlightened beings, it does.
And even for everybody it ends in
moments of, in different moments of our
lives where you know, everybody has those
moments where they call it that they are
experiencing extreme happiness or
extreme contentment. Those are the
moments where it ends temporarily and
those are the moments where you are not
in any search and, but to have your
entire life like that is something that
you have to work for.
You know sitting here, such a beautiful, such a
silence is so different from what we
what everyone is doing every day every
every day during most of the days in the
life and this is like so much silence
and I wonder can one live just like this?
Can one just? Once you have that inner
silence in you, you can be in any
situation, be wherever but still have
that in your life. So if you're chasing a
particular time, in your life a
particular situation in your life where
you would have this inner silence that
would never come. It has to happen now it
has to happen in whatever situation you
are. Of course it's easier to have it
when you are close to nature when you
are doing nothing when you have no
tasks on your mind, no responsibilities,
no yeah no connection to anybody
else just like if you see people who
move to monasteries or to Himalayas or
to such environments, what are they
doing ?They actually, I shouldn't use the
word escaping but they move out of
the daily life, out all of the daily
societal structures that we live in and
then it's easier for them to be closer
to themselves and to achieve this, the
state of inner silence. But I'm saying
that it's possible while you are in the
society while you're living the life
that you have with your kids or you know
any sort of structure that you are
living in, you don't need
to necessarily break that structure you
just need to start with your inner space
first and you need to fix that first and
then meditation is nothing but that. I
think the difficulty is to stop when you
are in your daily life and all the time
busy, the difficulty is to really stop
because life keeps you involved, you can
only do something, you can always be busy
and it's the easier way is to get busy
you know you're sitting down and for a
while, really letting everything stop, this is
not the easier way. I
think that'swhy a lot of
people are not able to or maybe not in
the first thought would think that
they can do this in their daily life, but
rather they have to go to a place out
of their world, out of their society in
an ashram or into the mountains over so
ever. But I know it's not the same
it's important to bring it in your daily
life and; yes.
You can do both, you can also from time
to time put yourself into aloneness
into silent environments when you
go for you can simply go for a nice long
walk in nature that helps
but essentially you have to create the
space and maintain that space wherever
you are. You just have to know what is
good for you, and that this is good for
you and you have to probably feel the
urge for that space and the urge to be
with yourself and stop. I think this
stopping is a main factor in daily life
of people they all somehow feel
that they should be doing this that too
much all the time, but they somehow can't
because they don't know, how they don't
know really how? They don't know even why
they should stop sharing such a mad rush
that stopping is almost a Sinn and well
they have to eventually stop at their
grave. But when I will you stop earlier
So you're not surprised when you are
suddenly dead. What do you mean by that?
So when you're facing your death, you're
not suddenly surprised that, oh I have
you actually what have you been living
now. Yeah I don't know, I don't know what
happens when such people face death
I assume they may finally realize what
they had been missing all their life.
Because I think that one moment just
before that just when you're taking the
last breath when everything else becomes
secondary, for what you have possessed
and all that you have done, all your
fame, money,
power everything when that leaves you,
even the people that are around you
you know your loved ones, even closest of
all your family, everybody
becomes secondary. In that moment I'm
sure no matter who you were you, would
face this hard question of who you are
and what you did and I think it's
better to ask that question well before
then death. and that's something
that requires courage. But once you
live with that question that's this very
question that who you really are beyond
all the possessions and
everything that you have acquired then
you can really you know live with that
happiness and contentment which you were
talking earlier. And in my words you live
in that inner silence and you live with
your own inner being. Knowing who you are
and continuously the meaning mindful of
that all throughout your life. You're kind
of dying every day. I would not
not say so that you're dying every day,
but you are aware of the
transitory nature of your life, of your
form that you are right now on
this planet. It will also enable you to
enjoy your life so because you know then
that you are alive at that moment. Yeah
you can use it, you can use that
realization to make yourself or put
yourself in situations of enjoyment but
that's one part of it.
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