, MARKIE MARTIN, AND
BRAD SOUDER.
MARKIE: TAKING YOU NOW TO A HOT
BUTTON ISSUE, A PIECE OF
LEGISLATION PROPOSED RIGHT HERE
IN OKLAHOMA THAT WOULD HAVE
ORIGINALLY REQUIRED
ANTI-ABORTION SIGNS TO GO UP IN
MANY PUBLIC RESTROOMS ACROSS THE
STATE.
THE SENATOR BEHIND THAT BILL NOW
SAYING MAYBE ANTI-ABORTION
SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS WOULD
SUFFICE INSTEAD.
AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT HAS
BEEN SURROUNDED BY MAJOR
CONTROVERSY.
JOINING US IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
BILL TO MY SHOULD ADD, IS
PLANNED PARENTHOOD
REPRESENTATIVE TAMYA COX.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US
TODAY.
FOR TRANSPARENCY OF THE TOP, WE
WANT TO SAY WE DID REACH OUT TO
SENATOR GRIFFIN.
SHE COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.
YOU ARE WITH PLANNED PARENTHOOD,
CLEARLY AGAINST THIS BILL.
IT STARTED WITH A
BACK-AND-FORTH, SOCIAL MEDIA
CAMPAIGN.
AS YOU STAND, WHERE DOES THIS
BILL STAND ON REQUIREMENTS?
TAMYA: IT IS IMPORTANT TO KEEP
IN MIND THAT THIS BILL WAS
PASSED LAST SESSION AND IT IS AN
AMENDMENT TO THE PROBLEMS THIS
BILL HAD.
THE BILL IS GOING TO REQUIRE
ABORTION FACILITIES TO HAVE
THESE ANTIABORTION MESSAGING
SIGNS.
WE STILL HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THIS
BILL.
WE ARE GRATEFUL THAT SENATOR
GRIFFIN DID SOME CHANGES TO WHAT
IT IS.
IT IS PART OF A BIGGER BILL.
THE BIGGER BILL, WHICH IS NOW
LAW, WOULD REQUIRE AN
ANTIABORTION CURRICULUM TO BE
CREATED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
EDUCATION, AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
HEALTH INITIALLY WAS SUPPOSED TO
REQUIRE SIGNS.
NOW THEY REQUIRE MORE SIGNS IN
ABORTION FACILITIES AS WELL AS
CREATE THIS ANTIABORTION SOCIAL
MEDIA CAMPAIGN.
EVEN THOUGH THE MESSAGE HAS
CHANGED A BIT, IT IS VERY
PROBLEMATIC.
MARKIE IN THE BEGINNING STAGES
OF THIS, FROM WHAT I HAVE
RESEARCHED, IT WOULD REQUIRE
RESTAURANTS AND SCHOOLS AND
HOSPITALS.
AS OF NOW IT IS JUST CLINICS?
TAMYA: AS OF NOW WHAT THIS
AMENDMENT DOES TO THIS SMALL
PORTION OF THE BIGGER LAW IS
REQUIRE ABORTION FACILITIES TO
HAVE THIS PARTICULAR LANGUAGE.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT
ALL ABORTION FACILITIES IN
OKLAHOMA DOES OPTION COUNSELING,
ALLOWING WOMEN ARE SEEKING AN
ABORTION OR THINKING ABOUT IT TO
KNOW ALL THEIR OPTIONS
AVAILABLE.
MARKIE: AND YOU BEI WITH
PLANNED PARENTHOOD ARE
VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THIS IDEA.
TELL ME WHY, THOUGH.
TAMYA: ANY ANTIABORTION
RESTRICTIONS OR LAWS ARE PASSED,
WE ARE GOING TO STAND UP AND
OPPOSE THEM, BECAUSE, ONE, THEY
CREATE STIGMA FOR WHAT IS
CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED, THEY
CREATE SHAME FOR THOSE THAT ARE
SEEKING CONSTITUTIONALLY LEGALLY
SAFE ABORTIONS.
ANYTIME THOSE RESTRICTIONS ARE
CREATED BY THE STATE
LEGISLATURE, WE ARE GOING TO
OPPOSE THEM.
MARKIE: WHEN YOU HAVE TAKEN
PEOPLE'S TEMPERATURE ON ISSUE --
YOU OF TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE
COMMUNITY AND MAYBE PATIENTS WHO
HAVE USED PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND
OTHER LAWMAKERS -- WHAT ARE
PEOPLE SAYING ABOUT THIS COME
OUTSIDE YOUR INNER CIRCLE AT
PLANNED PARENTHOOD?
TAMYA: WE ARE HEARING THAT ONCE
AGAIN OKLAHOMA STATE LEGISLATORS
ARE WASTING TAXPAYER MONEY AND
TIME FOR PASSING EXTREME
LEGISLATION.
THERE ARE WAYS AND MEANS TO
DECREASE THE NUMBER OF
ABORTIONS.
WE BELIEVE IT IS THROUGH ACCESS,
EDUCATION, GREATER ACCESS TO
CONTRACEPTION.
THOSE ARE TRUE SCIENTIFIC MEANS
TO DECREASE THE NUMBER.
THE MEASURES THAT CONTINUE TO
GET PAST AND STRUCK DOWN BY THE
OKLAHOMA SUPREME COURT DO NOT DO
ANY OF THESE THINGS.
MARKIE: FROM PLANNED
PARENTHOOD'S PERSPECTIVE, LET'S
TALK ABOUT THE POWER OF SIGNAGE.
HOW EFFECTIVE WHICH SUCH SIGNS
BE IF THEY A REQUIRED TO PUT
UP ACROSS THE STATE?
TAMY WE HAVE NO WAY TO EVEN
GAUGE THE IMPACT OF THE SIGNS.
WE HOPE THAT LEGISLATURES WILL
COME BACK DURING THE SESSION AND
FIND EVIDENCE-BASED MEANS, MEANS
THEY CAN GAUGE TO S BY PASSING
THE MEASURE THROUGH CONFERENCE
OF SEX EDUCATION --
COMPREHENSIVE SEX EDUCATION.
MARKIE: I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS
TO HOW THIS WOULD EVEN TAKE
PLACE.
LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT THE COSTS
OF THIS KIND OF BILL.
WE HAVE A SOUNDBITE FROM SENATOR
AJ GRIFFIN.
WE DO WANT TO PLAY THAT.
SENATOR GRIFFIN: CHANGE THE
RULES SO IT IS MUCH EASIER TO
COMPLY AND THE BURDE IS NOT ON
THE BUSINESS, NEVER THE INTENT.
MARKIE: YOU COULDN'T HEAR WHAT
SHE SAID BUT SHE WANTS TO CHANGE
IT TO WHERE THE BURDEN IS ON THE
STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS
OPPOSED TO THE BUSINESSES.
WHAT DO YOU HEAR ON THE COST
FRONT OF THINGS AND WHO
WOULD FOOT THE BILL
TAMYA: ONCE AGAIN, WE ARE
RELYING ON TAXPAYERS TO FOOT THE
BILL IF IT WERE TO GO INTO
EFFECT.
THE COST IS UNKNOWN NOW.
WE KNOW IT WAS A VERY, VERY HIGH
COST FOR BUSINESSES, BUT WE HAVE
TO CHANGE THIS COST TO THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH,
ESSENTIALLY TO THE TAXPAYERS.
WHATEVER THAT COST MA BE, NO
COST IS GREATER THAN THE STATE
OF OKLAHOMA INTERFERING WITH THE
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO AN
ABORTION.
MARKIE: SO IT WOULD BE YOU AND
MYSELF PAYING FOR THIS.
YOU HAVE NOT HEARD THE DOLLAR
AMOUNT?
TAMY AS OF RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE
THINGS ARE MOVING REALLY QUICKLY
COME WAS THE RESTAURANT
ASSOCIATION AND HOSPITAL
ASSOCIATION TALKED ABOUT THE
INDIVIDUAL COSTS, WE KNOW THIS
AMENDMENT TO THE LAW IS MOVING
QUICKLY SO WE HAVE YET TO HEAR
THE COST.
THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WILL
CONTINUE TO WORK ON BECAUSE
THERE IS A COST TO CREATE THE
SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN, THERE IS
A COST TO CREATE A WEBSITE
REGARDING THIS INFORMATION.
THIS COST WILL BE TO THE
TAXPAYERS.
MARKIE: AND I KNOW THE
DISCUSSIONS ON THIS, DECISIONS
HAVE BEEN SET ASIDE UNTIL THE
NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION STARTS
IN 2017.
WHAT IS YOUR PLAN OF ACTION IN
MAKING SURE THAT THI ISSUE,
THIS BILL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
RIGHT HERE, GETS SWEPT OFF THE
TABLE?
TAMYA: OUR PLAN IS ALWAYS THE
SAME.
EDUCATING LEGISLATORS AND
ENGAGING SUPPORTERS.
EDUCATING LEGISLATORS AS THERE
ARE WAYS OUT THERE WE CAN REDUCE
THE NUMBER OF ABORTIONS.
AND ENGAGING SUPPORTERS THAT
THERE ARE BETTER THINGS THE
LEGISLATURE SHOULD BE WORKING ON
-- CONTINUE WI OUR BUDGET
CRISIS, CONTINUE WITH NOT BEING
ABLE TO FUND EDUCATION.
THERE ARE AVENUES THE STATE OF
OKLAHOMA SHOULD BE WORKING ON,
NOT EXTREME ANTIABORTION BILLS
SUCH AS THESE.
MARKIE: LAST QUESTION TO YOU FOR
WOMEN WHO ARE LISTENING.
WHAT ARE -- IF SIGN IT COME INTO
PLAY, WHAT ARE WOMEN'S OTHER
OPTIONS BESIDES ABORTING A
CHILD?
TAMYA: IF A WHOLE AND WOULD LIKE
TO TERMINATE PREGNANCY, SHE
WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE HER
PREGNANCY OR CHOOSE ADOPTION,
OUR SERVICES, AS WELL AS OTHER
PROVIDERS ACROSS T STATE, THEY
ARE GIVING THOSE OPTIONS AND
RESOURCES TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT
ARE BEST FOR THEM IN THE FAMILY.
MARKIE: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
COMING ON.
WE WILL DEFINITELY FOLLO THIS
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