. >>> I THINK WE WERE ABSOLUTELY
GIVEN THE INFORMATION THAT WE COULD HAVE AT THAT TIME.
IT WAS A QUICK MOVING PROCESS. >> AND WOULD YOU SAY THAT THAT
INFORMATION WAS ACCURATE THEN OR IS NOR ACCURATE NOW?
>> I WOULD SAY THAT AFTER HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE
PRESIDENT, YOU DON'T GET MUCH MORE ACCURATE THAN THAT.
>> WELCOME BACK TO THE 11th HOUR.
THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS AND THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN TRUST THE WORD OF THE PRESS SECRETARY CAME
UP TODAY. HERE IS MORE OF THAT EXCHANGE
BETWEEN SARA SANDERS AND MAJOR GARRETT.
>> SHOULD REPORTERS AND THE COUNTRY ESSENTIALLY WAIT FOR A
PRONOUNCEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT BEFORE BELIEVING THAT WHICH IS
STATED ON HIS BEHALF BY THE WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS
STAFF? >> LOOK, MAJOR, I'M NOT GOING TO
GET INTO BACK-AND-FORTH THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A DIRECT QUOTE
EVERY SINGLE TIME. YOU GUYS WANT TO GET LOST IN THE
PROCESS -- >> I DON'T THINK A QUESTION AND
GIVING AN ANSWER IS LOST IN THE PROCESS, SARA, WITH ALL RESPECT.
>> AND I'M ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS.
IT'S VERY SIMPLE. THE PRESIDENT DECIDED TO FIRE
DIRECTOR COMEY. NOBODY ELSE GETS TO MAKE THAT
DECISION, AND HE MADE IT. HE STANGDS BY IT.
AS DO THE REST OF IT. >> LISA BRING IN OUR GUEST
FORMER UNDERSECRETARY OF STATE FOR PUBLIC DIPLOMACY AND PUBLIC
AFFAIRS, RICK STENGEL, WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE FORMER MANAGING
EDITOR OF TIME MAGAZINE. AND OUR FRIEND HISTORIAN
PRESIDENTIAL BIOGRAPHER AND AUTHOR, JOHN MEECH HAM COMES
BACK ON THE BROADCAST WITH US. JOHN, I'LL GINL WITH YOU.
MAJOR GARRETT IS A GOOD GUY AND A SOLID JOURNALIST AND WAS NOT
BEING FACETIOUS WHEN HE SAID DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE
PRESIDENT'S PRO NOUMT. YOU AND I HAVE TALKED BEFORE
ABOUT THIS PRESIDENT WHO LACKS A BASELINE OF HISTORY IN THE
PRESIDENCY THAT POLITICIANS WITH THEIR EYES ON THIS PRIZE ALL
THEIR EYES ON HAVE. IT'S NOBODY'S FAULT HE CAME FROM
A DIFFERENT WORLD. IS THAT ALSO -- DOES THAT
TRANSLATE INTO NOT KNOWING THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN RILES, MOREAS
AND LAWS THAT SOMETIMES GOVERN YOUR COMMENTS?
>> WELL, PRESIDENT TRUMP IS LIKE ALL OF US, TO SOME EXTENT, A
PRISON OF HIS OWN EXPERIENCE. THIS IS A MAN WHO HAS BEEN
REPORTED ACTUALLY PRETHE ENDED TO BE HIS OWN SPOKESMAN IN THE
TABLOID YEARS.
>> JOHN MILLER. >> JOHN MILLER AND JOHN BARE
RON. SO I THINK WHEN THE HISTORY OF
THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS WRITTEN, THERE ARE GOING TO BE A
COUPLE OF REALLY IMPORTANT HISTORICAL FIGURES WHO ARE
ANTI-SEEDENTS HERE. ONE IS JOE KOHN WHO TUTORED
TRUMP IN THE ART OF CHANGING THE STORY, GOING FOR THE HEADLINE,
FIGHTING WARS IN THE TABLOIDS. THE OTHER IS RUPERT MURDOCK WHO
HELPED CREATE THAT CULTURE IN THE MODERN ERA IN NEW YORK, AND
UP THINK THAT ESSENTIALLY, WHAT WE'RE SEEING -- AND RICK HAS
BEEN IN THIS POSITION WHEN HE'S SERVEGING THE COUNTRY -- THERE
IS THIS -- TO USE AN OLD WATERGATE PHRASE, THERE IS THIS
ENORMOUS CREDIBILITY GAP. ONE PARENTHETICAL PRUMPLT HAS
EXPLAINED WHY HE DID IT BUT WILL THAT BE THE EXPLANATION
TOMORROW? >> RIGHT.
AND RICK, THE REASON IT'S IMPORTANT TO BELIEVE THAT PODIUM
AND THE PERSON STANDING BEHIND IT IS TOMORROW'S BRIEFING, GOD
FORBID, MAY BE ABOUT A U.S. MILITARY ACTION WE HAVE TAKEN
OVERNIGHT OVERSEAS. AND WE MAY HAVE TO DETAIL THE
SATELLITE EVIDENCE THAT LED US TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
ITS HAS TO BE BELIEVABLE JUST AS EVERY WORD FROM THAT PODIUM HAS
TO BE BELIEVABLE. >> YES, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO MAJOR GARRETT, THE QUESTION IS A
LITTLE BIT DISINGENUOUS IN THE SENSE THAT NOBODY HAS THE
REALITY THE WAY THE PRESIDENT HIMSELF HAS THE REALITY, WHETHER
HE RE-ARRANGES IT OR NOT. EVERY TIME YOU'RE UP AT THAT
PODIUM YOU'RE TRYING TO TRANSLATE SOMETHING THAT YOU
KNOW THAT'S IMPERFECT IN A WAY THAT AT LEAST IS PLAUSIBLE AND
TRUTHFUL TO THE PEOPLE SITTING THERE.
I MEAN,ITY THINK SOMEBODY MENTIONED MIKE McCURRY EARLIER.
>> THAT WAS ME. >> WHO -- YES.
WHO I THINK SET THE STANDARD FOR BEST PRESS SECRETARY.
HE HAD THE PHRASE WHAT'S YOUR JOB.
MY JOB IS TO TELL THE TRUTH, SLOWLY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT. HE WAS ADEPT AT THAT.
>> SOME OF THAT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW THINGS THAT YOU CAN'T SAY,
HOW CAN YOU SAY THINGS THAT YOU KNOW THAT ARE TRUTHFUL WITH --
AND BE ABLE TO PROTECT YOUR BOSS, THE PRESIDENT, AND BE ABLE
TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THAT'S SOMETHING WHEN YOU'RE
IN GOVERNMENT ALL THE TIME, THINGS THAT YOU JUST CAN'T TALK
ABOUT. BUT YOU CAN'T BE UNTRUTHFUL,
EITHER. >> JOHN MEACHAM, YOU HAVE SPENT
TIME WITH THIS PRESIDENT. IN THE LIFE OF PRESIDENTS, THE
GREAT THING ABOUT BEING HISTORIAN IS MOST OF THE MODERN
ERA PRESIDENTS HAVE HAD P HISTORIANS IN BECAUSE THEY'RE
INTO YOUR LINE OF WORK AND THE BOOKS YOU'VE WRITTEN AND THEY'VE
READ THEM AND WANT TO DISCUSS THEM.
WITHOUT SHARING WHAT YOU CAN SHAIR ABOUT PRIVATE SOMETIME
YOU'VE SPENT WITH THIS PRESIDENT, WHAT TRATSZ HAVE YOU
REFLECTED BACK ON WATCHING HIM THESE PAST JUST FEW DAYS?
>> I DECLARE I HAVEN'T SPOKEN DIRECTLY WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP I
THINK SINCE JUNE OR JULY OF LAST YEAR, SO THAT SHOULD BE CLEAR.
BUT I THINK WHAT WE SEE HERE IS HE IS SELF-AWARE IN THIS SENSE.
WHEN I ASK HIM IN THAT SERIES OF QUESTIONS FOR RICK'S ALMA MATER
FOR TIME LAST SUMMER, IT WAS ABOUT WERE THERE A -- KWR THERE
ANALOGOUS FIGURES IN HIS MIND, WERE THERE CASE STUDIES IN HIS
MIND ABOUT DIFFERENT PRESIDENTS AS HE PREPARED FOR T FOR THE
PRESIDENCY AND WE ENDED UP TALKING ABOUT BABE RUTH AND
LYDIA KO, THE GREAT ASIAN AMERICAN GOLFER.
BABE RUTH HAD BEEN ASKED ACCORDING TO TRUMP, HEY, BABE,
HOW DO YOU HIT THE LONG BALL? AND RUTH SAID I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST SWING AT IT. AND TRUMP SAID I JUST SWING AT
IT. AND LYDIA KO WAS ASKED HOW DO
YOU HIT YOUR SHOTS AND SHE SAID I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST HIT THE BALL. THAERLS NO LUCY AND THE FOOTBALL
HERE. HE IS A GUT PLAYER.
IT'S INSTIKTDIVE, AND HE IS TOTALLY CONVINCED THAT HE CAN
BULLY HIS WAY THROUGH ALMOST ANY
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