>>> LOOK HOW MUCH AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITIES
HAVE SUFFERED UNDER DEMOCRATIC CONTROL.
TO THOSE I SAY THE FOLLOWING. WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE BY
TRYING SOMETHING NEW LIKE TRUMP? WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO LOSE?
>> DURING THE CAMPAIGN, DONALD TRUMP WOULD OFTEN ASK
AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHAT THEY HAD TO LOSE BY VOTING FOR HIM.
WELL, IT TURNS OUT ONE THING THEY HAD TO LOSE WAS OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION REFORMS TO DRUG SENTENCING WHERE RACIAL
DISPARITIES ARE PARTICULARLY ANNOUNCED.
TODAY, ATTORNEY GENERAL JEFF SESSIONS ORDERED THE TOUGHEST
POSSIBLE PROSECUTION FOR DRUG OFFENSES TELLING FEDERAL
PROSECUTORS TO, QUOTE, CHARGE AND PURSUE THE MOST SERIOUS
READILY PROVABLE OFFENSE. THE MOST SERIOUS OFFENSES ARE
THOSE THAT CARRY THE MOST -- THIS STEP TOWARDS BRINGING BACK
THE HEYDAY OF THE SO CALLED WAR ON DRUGS ROLLS BACK POLICIES BY
FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL ERIC HOLDER, MR. HOLDER RESPONDED
WITH A STATEMENT THAT READS IN PART, THE POLICY ANNOUNCED TODAY
IS NOT TOUGH ON CRIME. IT IS DUMB ON CRIME.
THIS ABSURD REVERSAL IS DRIVEN BY VOICES WHO HAVE NOT ONLY BEEN
DISCREDITED BUT UNTIL NOW HAVE BEEN RELEGATED TO THE FRINGES OF
THIS DEBATE. JOINING ME NOW, THE PRESIDENT
AND DIRECTOR OF THE NCAAP LEGAL DEFENSE FUND.
FIRST LET'S START WITH WHAT THE IMPACT OF THIS IS.
>> WELL, THE IMPACT OF THIS IS IT'S TAKING US BACK.
TRUMP SAID TRY SOMETHING NEW. THIS HAS BEEN TRIED.
THIS HAS BEEN TRIED AND DISCREDITED.
SO NOW WE'RE BACK TO SOMETHING THAT REALLY WAS PRESSED BY
ATTORNEY GENERAL ASHCROFT, WHICH IS THAT YOU CHARGE, YOU KNOW,
THE HIGHEST, MOST SERIOUS OFFENSE YOU CAN CHARGE OF ANYONE
THAT IS VIOLATING THE LAWS, THE FEDERAL LAWS UNDER THE DRUG
LAWS. AND WHAT THAT'S PRODUCED IS LIKE
THIS SWELLED FEDERAL PRISON POPULATION BECAUSE YOU'RE
SENDING PEOPLE AWAY FOR EXORBITANT PERIODS OF TIME FOR
WHAT ARE ESSENTIALLY MINOR OFFENSES.
WHAT ATTORNEY GENERAL HOLDER DID IN 2013 WHEN HE ANNOUNCED THE
SMARTER ON CRIME INITIATIVE WAS TO SAY YOU DON'T DO THAT.
YOU TARGET THE MOST DANGEROUS CRIMINALS ENGAGED IN THE MOST
SERIOUS OFFENSES AND THAT'S WHERE YOU PUT YOUR RESOURCES.
AND UNDER THAT, YOU KNOW, NEW POLICY, THE PRISON POPULATION
ACTUALLY WAS REDUCED. >> STARTED TO COME DOWN.
>> ABSOLUTELY, FROM 220,000 TO 190,000 BETWEEN 2004 AND TODAY.
SO THAT'S THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. >> RIGHT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT -- I MEAN IN TERMS OF IMPACTS ON PEOPLE'S
LIVES, THIS IS MAJOR. THIS IS THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
ALSO TALK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT PROSECUTORS' DECISIONS AND
DISCRETIONS ARE IN TERMS OF DRIVING WHAT WE CALL MASS
INCARCERATION? >> WELL, PROSECUTORS HAVE THE
MOST DISCRETION OF ANY ACTOR IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM,
MORE THAN POLICE OFFICERS, MORE THAN JUDGES.
AND THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE REALLY ARE THE DECISIONS THAT
RESULT IN INCARCERATION FOR MANY PEOPLE AND THE LENGTH OF
INCARCERATION FOR MANY PEOPLE. AND WHAT WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT WE
NEED TO GIVE PROSECUTORS THE TOOLS, PARTICULARLY
REFORM-MINDED PROSECUTORS, TO MAKE SMART -- WHAT ATTORNEY
GENERAL HOLDER WOULD CALL SMART DECISIONS ABOUT WHO TO PROSECUTE
AND WHAT KIND OF SENTENCES TO SEEK FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.
THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AT THE STATE LEVEL, I THINK
THAT'S BEEN KIND OF INCULCATED. YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD TODAY THAT
THE NEW PRESIDENT-ELECT OF THE D.A.'S ASSOCIATION SAID, YOU
KNOW, STATES, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING BACK TO THAT.
WE RECOGNIZE THAT WASN'T SMART. >> THAT'S A PROFESSIONAL
ORGANIZATION OF PROSECUTORS. >> PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION OF
PROSECUTORS. SO WHAT WE HAD HOPED BEFORE WAS
THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT UNDER ATTORNEY GENERAL HOLDER
AND ATTORNEY GENERAL LYNCH WAS GOING TO LEAD AND MAKE AN
EXAMPLE FOR THE STATES. NOW WE'RE GOING TO NEED THE
STATES TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BECAUSE
SESSIONS IS WEDDED TO THIS OLD WAY.
>> YOU KNOW, THIS WAS PAUL RYAN LAST YEAR I BELIEVE ON CRIMINAL
JUSTICE REFORM. I THINK WE OVERCOMPENSATED ON
SOME OF OUR LAWS. WE HAD SOME MANY MAND TORY
MINIMUMS. WE COULD HAVE HAD ALTERNATIVE
MEANS OF INCARCERATION. JEFF SESSIONS NOW DEFENDS WHAT
HE'S DOING SAYING IT'S NOT LOW-LEVEL DRUG OFFENDERS.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THE POLITICS OF CRIME WHICH MANY
PEOPLE THOUGHT THE KOCH BROTHERS AND ALL THESE CONSERVATIVES WERE
COMING ALONG TOWARDS DECARCERATION.
NOW YOU'VE GOT THIS? >> HONESTLY, CHRIS, THIS IS
WHERE IT GETS SCARY AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SEE BECAUSE
WE'VE SEEN AROUND A NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT THE REPUBLICAN
LEADERSHIP HAS BEEN UNWILLING TO PUSH BACK AGAINST
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ADMINISTRATION'S POLICIES, EVEN
THIS WHEN THEY HAD TAKEN POSITIONS THAT DEMONSTRATED
THAT. SO I WANT TO KNOW.
JOHN CORRESPOND ANYONE FROM TEXAS, CHUCK WAS A LEADER IN THE
EFFORT TO GET THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE ROFRM BILL PASSED.
WHERE ARE THEIR VOICES IN RESPONSE TO SESSIONS'
ANNOUNCEMENT. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO HEAR.
>> JEFF SESSIONS ONE OF
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