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>>> GOOD MORNING. WELCOME TO "AM JOY."
AT THIS MOMENT DONALD TRUMP IS FAR, FAR FROM HOME, LANDING IN
SAUDI ARABIA THIS MORNING ON HIS VERY FIRST FOREIGN TRIP SINCE
TAKING OFFICE. ONE CAN IMAGINE TRUMP IS
DESPERATE TO FLEE THE FIRE HOSE OF PROBLEMS HIS ADMINISTRATION
FACED THIS WEEK, STARTING ON MONDAY WITH THIS.
SEAN SPICER IS STILL REFUSING TO CONFIRM OR DENY WHETHER OR NOT
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS RECORDING PEOPLE IN
THE WHITE HOUSE WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE.
>> THE PRESIDENT REVEALED HIGHLY CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO
RUSSIAN OFFICIALS DURING AN OVAL OFFICE MEETING LAST WEEK.
>> TRUMP TRIED TO SHUT DOWN THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION
PROBE, NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER MICHAEL FLYNN AND HIS
CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR.
THE U.S. YUZ DEPARTMENT NAMED SPECIAL COUNSEL TO INVESTIGATE
THE POSSIBLE ROLE DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN PLAYED WITH RUSSIA
DURING AND AFTER THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
>> THE PRESIDENT TWEETING JUST NOW, QUOTE, THIS IS THE SINGLE
GREATEST WITCH HUNT OF A POLITICIAN IN AMERICAN HISTORY.
>> THE ENTIRE THING HAS BEEN A WITCH HUNT.
>> BELIEVE ME, THERE'S NO COLLUSION.
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD RUSSIAN OFFICIALS WITH WHOM HE MET IN
THE WHITE HOUSE THAT JIM COMEY WAS A NUT JOB, AND THAT FIRE HIM
TOOK A LOT OF PRESSURE OFF THE PRESIDENT.
>> "THE WASHINGTON POST" IS NOW REPORTING THAT THE RUSSIA PROBE,
WHICH IS NOW IN THE HANDS OF A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR, HAS
IDENTIFIED A CURRENT WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL AS A SIGNIFICANT PERSON
OF INTEREST. THE WHITE HOUSE ISN'T DISPUTING
THAT REPORT EITHER. >> BUT HOLD ON, THERE'S ONE MORE
THING. FORMER FBI CHIEF JAMES COMEY
WILL TESTIFY BEFORE THE SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE AFTER
MEMORIAL DAY. JOINING ME NOW MALCOLM NANCE,
ADRIAN FROM BUZZFEED, MATTHEW MILLER ANALYST AND JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT SPOKES, STATE DEPARTMENT SPOKESPERSON AND
DAVID FRENCH. A MEGA PLAN AS IT WERE.
START AT THE TABLE, MALCOMB. THERE'S A PIECE IN "POLITICO"
THAT CAUCUS ABOUT THE WAY THE U.S. IS VIEWED BY FOREIGN
FRIENDS AND ADVERSARIES ALIKE. WROTE THIS PIECE, TRUMP IS
VIEWED BY EUROPEAN LEADERS AS LESS DANGEROUS AND MORE IN TERMS
OF WORDS LIKE CHAOS, CIRCUS AND LAUGHINGSTOCK.
HERE IS A QUICK QUOTE. PEOPLE ARE LESS WORRIED THAN
THEY WERE SIX WEEKS AGO, LESS AFRAID.
A SENIOR OFFICIAL WITH EXPERIENCE IN THE UNITED STATES
TOLD ME, NOW THEY SEE THE CLOWNISH NATURE.
WHEREAS ANOTHER GERMAN SAID ON THE SIDELINES OF A MEETING, 70
STOCK OF U.S.-GERMAN RELATIONS PEOPLE HERE THINK TRUMP IS A
LAUGHINGSTOCK. CAN YOU ASSESS FOR US WHETHER
WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST WEEK, SHARING OF INTELLIGENCE
WITH RUSSIANS IN THE OVAL OFFICE, FBI INVESTIGATION, THE
SORT OF CIRCUS AROUND DONALD TRUMP, IS IT SEEN AS MORE
DANGEROUS TO OUR ALLIES OR MORE RIDICULOUS AND A JOKE?
>> IT'S INTERESTING THEY SHOULD RIGHT THAT BECAUSE FORMER CIA
ANALYST DID AN ANALYSIS AS THE CIA WOULD DO IF THE UNITED
STATES WERE A TARGET BY AN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.
INITIALLY WE GIVE EVERYONE BENEFIT OF A DOUBT THERE'S GRAND
STRATEGY, A PLAN LAID OUT AND EXECUTED IN SUPER VILLAIN STYLE.
WE'RE FINDING OUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE AT ALL.
THIS IS CHAOS. THIS IS MAYHEM.
THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS NO INTERNAL ORGANIZATION,
FACTIONS THAT ARE VERY CLEAR AND GOING AT EACH OTHER FROM ONE
DIRECTION OR THE NEXT. LET ME TELL YOU, IF THIS WERE
SOME THIRD WORLD NATION WE'D BE WATCHING THE ARMY TO SEE IF THE
ATTENTION ARE GETTING READY TO MOVE FOR A COUP.
OR IF A GUY JUMPS ON A PLANE AND FLIES TO MONACO FOR ALL THE
MONEY FROM THE STATE. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS THE UNITED
STATES BEING SEEN BY THE REST OF THE WORLD AS THE CLOWN SHOW.
I THINK ON THE OTHER HAND THE REASON IT'S LESS DANGEROUS THAN
SIX WEEKS AGO IS BECAUSE THEY ALSO SEE THE BRILLIANT CHECKS
AND BALANCES THE FOUNDING FATHER PUT INTO PLACE COMING INTO
MOTION AND FEEL THE PRESIDENT WILL BE GIVEN GUARDRAILS HE'S
NEVER HAD BEFORE. >> AS SOMEBODY WHO HAS SPOKEN
FROM THE STATE DEPARTMENT, YOU HAVE JIM COMEY, HIS TESTIMONY
IMMINENT. WE FOUND OUT HE WILL TESTIFY
BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. HE DECLINED AN INVITATION TO DO
SO BEFORE THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN PRIVATE.
YOUR EUROPEAN ALLIES KNOW THAT, NAYYERA.
ON THE PLANE WITH DONALD TRUMP ARE SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO
HELPED BUILD THIS CIRCUS ATMOSPHERE, THE STEVE BANNONS OF
THE WORLD, JARED KUSHNER, WHO IS THE PRESIDENT'S SON-IN-LAW WHO
HAS HIS OWN ISSUE WHETHER HE FILED HIS FOREIGN PAPERWORK FOR
BASICALLY BEING AN AGENT OF FOREIGN CLIENTS.
STEPHEN MILLER WHO HAD A LOT TO DO WITH MUSLIM BAN.
HE'S BRING THAT CIRCUS OVERSEAS. IF YOU WERE WITH THE STATE
DEPARTMENT, HOW WOULD YOU DEAL WITH THAT?
>> VERY CHALLENGING PARTICULARLY FOR THE FIRST TRIP.
THE FIRST TRIP IS FOR AN EASY ALLY COUNTRY WHERE THE SECURITY
ON YOUR SIDE, SECURITY ON THEIR SIDE HAD A HISTORY OF
COORDINATING WITH EACH OTHER AND YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE
THINGS WORK. YOU DON'T TRY TO THROW YOUR SELF
SEVERAL LOGISTICAL HURDLES LIKE TRYING TO VISIT THE OLD CITY IN
JERUSALEM. HISTORICALLY AND THOUSANDS OF
YEARS VERY CONTENTIOUS. THERE'S SECURITY CHALLENGES
THROUGH THE TRIP, POLITICAL CHALLENGES GOING FROM SAUDI TO
SAT CAN TO ISRAEL. ALL PLACES WHERE WORDS MATTER.
EVERY WORD YOU SAY HAS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OF HISTORY, IMPLICATION
BEHIND IT. NOW WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO
DOESN'T VIEW TELEPROMPTER OR READING FROM THE SCRIPT AS A
PRIORITY. THERE'S CHALLENGES LOGISTICALLY.
THE CIRCUS YOU MENTIONED, THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE WEST
WING TO BE GOING ON THIS TRIP. WHAT THAT INDICATES TO FOLKS WHO
HAVE DONE THIS BEFORE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON THE PLANE
COMMUNICATING BACK TO D.C., COMMUNICATING TO THE TEAM ON THE
GROUND. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRUST IF
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY NEED TO BE AROUND THE PRINCIPLE AT ALL
TIMES. THIS IS DOING TO BE AMPLIFIED ON
THE WORLD STAGE. >> ADRIAN YOU WERE ONE THAT
POINTED OUT LITERALLY YELLING AND SCREAMING GOING ON BETWEEN
THE TRUMP TEAM, SOME ON THAT PLANE OR ON THAT TRIP OVERSEAS.
IS THIS A TEAM THAT CAN SPEND THE TIME TO FOCUS ON THAT ONE
PAGE OF BULLET POINTS WITH DONALD TRUMP'S NAME ON THEM TO
MAKE HIM PAY ATTENTION OR ARE THEY PAYING ATTENTION TO THEIR
OWN PERSONAL ISSUES, NEEDING TO LAWYER UP AND DEAL WITH
RUSSIA-GATE BACK HOME. >> THEY CERTAINLY SEE THE
PRESIDENT VALUES LOYALTY BUT HAS BEEN AT TIMES THROWING HIS STAFF
UNDER THE BUS. I NEVER SAW -- AFTER THE FIRING
OF COMEY, I NEVER SAW THE STAFF SHELL SHOCKED THE WAY I DID THAT
WAY AND THEN A WEEK LATER WHEN THERE WERE REPORTS HE GAVE
INFORMATION TO RUSSIAN OFFICIALS.
THESE ARE CALM STAFFERS WHO ARE SORT OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHAT THE PRESIDENT HAS DONE, HOW THEY ARE GOING TO REACT.
THEY SAY SOMETHING ONE DAY. THE NEXT DAY THE PRESIDENT SAYS
TO LESTER HOLT, NOW, ACTUALLY I FIRED COMEY BECAUSE I WANTED TO
AND HE MENTIONS RUSSIA INVESTIGATION.
THE STAFFERS ARE STRUGGLING. WHEN I WAS THERE WITH REPORTERS
WAITING TO HEAR MORE ON THE FIRING AND ON THE RUSSIAN
INVOLVEMENT, I HEARD THE STAFFERS YELLING AT EACH OTHER
IN A ROOM THAT HAD STEVE BANNON AND SEAN SPICER AND SARAH
HUCKABEE SANDERS. IT'S A TIME THERE'S NOT AS MUCH
TRUST AS THERE SHOULD BE. THERE'S PROBLEMS AT THE HOME
LAND WHILE THEY ARE ABROAD ON A FOREIGN TRIP.
>> ON THAT, I WANT TO PLAY DICK DURBIN AND CLAIRE McCASKILL WHO
CAME OUT OF A MEETING WITH ROD ROSENSTEIN WHO IS ACTING AG ALL
THINGS RUSSIA-GATE BECAUSE OF THE RECUSAL OF JEFF SESSIONS.
THIS IS WHETHER HE'S THE PATSY OR INITIATOR IN TERMS OF FIRING
COMEY IN THE FIRST PLACE, WROTE THAT MEMO.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL KNEW BEFORE HE
WROTE THAT MEMO THAT I DIDN'T MEAN COMEY WAS GOING TO BE
FIRED? >> YES.
>> WHAT WAS IT HE SAID LED YOU TO BELIEVE.
>> HE KNEW THE DAY. >> >> DO YOU BELIEVE HE WAS
PRESSURED INTO WRITING THAT MEMO?
>> NO. >> HE KNEW COMEY WAS GOING TO BE
REMOVED PRIOR TO HIM WRITING THE HEMO.
>> DONALD TRUMP AND HIS MERRY BAND LEFT BEHIND ROD ROSENSTEIN,
THE PERSON LEFT BEHIND IN TERMS OF RUSSIA-GATE, IS HIS
CREDIBILITY DAMAGED? >> ABSOLUTELY.
THE FACT HE KNEW THE PRESIDENT HAD ALREADY DECIDED TO FIRE JIM
COMEY AND WENT ALONG WIT AND GAVE THE JUSTIFICATION THROUGH
HIS MEMO REALLY CALLS INTO QUESTION HIS INDEPENDENCE.
WHAT YOU HAVE TO ASK NOW, DID THE PRESIDENT RAISE THE RUSSIAN
INVESTIGATION EITHER IN HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH DEPUTY
ATTORNEY GENERAL, ATTORNEY GENERAL RECEIVINGSES, DID ROD
ROSENSTEIN KNOW ABOUT CONVERSATIONS JIM COMEY HAD WITH
THE PRESIDENT THAT WERE SO INAPPROPRIATE.
THE DEPUTY GENERAL IN THIS CASE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MAN WHO
PROTECTED INTEGRITY OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT INDEPENDENCE.
ROD ROSENSTEIN CAME UP AS CRIER PROSECUTOR, U.S. ATTORNEY,
INSTITUTIONALIST WHO WOULD STAND BEHIND ITS INTEGRITY.
ADDING FIRE TO FIRING OF JIM COMEY, HE GAVE PRESIDENT TRUMP
THE PROOF HE NEEDED, LET DOWN PEOPLE AT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT
WHO WERE DEPENDING ON HIM TO PROTECT INDEPENDENCE.
>> DAVID FRENCH, THAT LEAVES WITH US A PROBLEM WHERE
KRAEDABILITY SUPPOSEDLY FLOWED DOWN FROM THE TOP HAS BEEN
HARMED ALL THE WAY DOWN. ROARS DONALD TRUMP, THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES RESPONDING EVEN UNTIL A PRESSOR
IN COLOMBIA WHERE HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING LATIN AMERICA, HE
GETS ASKED ABOUT HIS ACTIONS WITH REGARD TO FBI DIRECTOR
COMEY. >> DID YOU AT ANY TIME URGE
FORMER FBI DIRECTOR JAMES COMEY IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM TO
CLOSE OR BACK DOWN THE INVESTIGATION INTO MICHAEL
FLYNN? ALSO AS YOU LOOK --
>> NO. NO.
>> DAVID FRENCH AT A TIME WHEN HE'S TAKING THE REPUTATION AND
REPUTATION OVERSEAS TO SOME OF THE MOST SENSITIVE REGIONS IN
THE WORLD, DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANY
CREDIBILITY? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIN
HAS A DIMINISHING AMOUNT OF CREDIBILITY.
HE'S STILL MAINTAINING A STRONGHOLD ON HIS BASE.
I THINK THAT'S WITHOUT QUESTION. THERE'S JUST AN ENORMOUS AND
INCREASING AMOUNT OF SCEPTICISM OUT OF VIRTUALLY EVERYONE ELSE.
I WILL SAY THIS REGARDING INDEPENDENTS AND DOJ.
AS FAR AS INDEPENDENTS AND DOJ GOES, THEY DID TAKE THE ULTIMATE
TEP THEY COULD TAKE TO TAB INDEPENDENCE BY APPOINTING A
SPECIAL COUNSEL WHO IS ARGUABLY THE MOST INDEPENDENT PERSON IN
THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH NOW WHO CAN INVESTIGATE THE SITUATION AND
INVESTIGATE THE ALLEGATIONS SURROUNDING RUSSIA'S
INTERFERENCE IN THE ELECTION. SO RIGHT NOW THERE IS A DEGREE
OF INDEPENDENCE BEING EXERCISED. IRONICALLY ENOUGH THAT
INDEPENDENCE IS BEING EXERCISED IN LARGE PART BECAUSE TRUMP WAS
SO UNDISCIPLINED. IT FINALLY FORCED THE DEPUTY
AG'S HAND. >> LASTLY TO YOU MATT MILLER,
YOU HAVE THE WHITE HOUSE TRYING TO USE ETHICS RULE TO UNDERMINE
THAT SPECIAL COUNSEL. YOUR THOUGHTS.
>> I DON'T THINK THAT WILL FLY. ULTIMATELY THAT DECISION WILL
COME TO ROD ROSENSTEIN TO WAVE AND ALLOW DIRECTOR MUELLER TO
INVESTIGATE NOT JUST THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ASSOCIATES BUT
JARED KUSHNER POTENTIALLY. THAT'S A DECISION DEPUTY
ATTORNEY GENERAL MADE, GIVEN WHO POB MUELLER IS, GIVEN HIS
REPUTATION FOR INDEPENDENCE AND INTEGRITY, NO REASON HE WON'T
APPROACH THAT FAIRLY. HE WASN'T GIVEN THE WAIVER, I
THINK THAT WOULD BE HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE.
>> LAST WORD, SUCCESSFUL TRIP OVERSEAS?
>> I THINK HE'LL HAVE A SUCCESSFUL PHOTOPHOTO-OP.
YOU SEE IN SAUDI ARABIA HE'S COMFORTABLE WITH GILLETTE AND
GLAMOUR OF SAUDI ARABIA. THE QUESTION IS WILL ANYTHING
COME OF IT AS HE BIOPSY THROUGH THESE THREE COUNTRIES BUT GET A
TALKING TO AT THE VATICAN HE WON'T LIKE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UP NECK, WE'LL EXPLAIN HOW
SPECIAL COUNSEL WILL BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR DONALD
TRUMP. STAY WITH US.
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