WELCOME TO"MTP DAILY." RUSSIA IS DOMINATING POLITICS
BUT HEALTH CARE HAS BEEN DOMINATING BATTLEGROUND POLITICS
OUTSIDE OF WASHINGTON. THESE TWO ISSUES MAY BE HOLDING
UP EVERYTHING FOR THE WHITE HOUSE AND REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS. AND THERE'S VERY RELIEF ON
EITHER ONE. THE UMPIRE OF SORTS FOR
LEGISLATION HERE IN WASHINGTON PUBLISHED ITS UPDATED ANALYSIS
OF THE HOUSE HEALTH CARE BILL THAT REPUBLICANS PASSED EARLIER
THIS MONTH. ACCORDING TO THEIR ESTIMATES, 23
MILLION WOULD LOSE COVERAGE OVER A SPAN OF TEN YEARS.
THAT'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENT FROM PRIOR ESTIMATES.
IT WAS ABOUT 24 MILLION IN THE PREVIOUS BILL.
THIS WOULD CUT THE DEFICIT BY $119 BILLION.
THAT MEANS THE HOUSE DOES NOT HAVE TO REVOTE ON THIS
LEGISLATION DUE TO RECONCILIATION RULES, BY THE
WAY, AND THE CBO SAYS SOME FOLKS WITH PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS IN
MANY STATES COULD FIND THEMSELVES PRICED OUT OF MARKET.
THE RAPID RESPONSE FROM THE RNC BLASTED THE CBO'S CREDIBILITY ON
HEALTH CARE. THEY SLAMMED THE AGENCY WAY OFF
WITH ITS OBAMACARE PREDICTIONS, TRYING TO SAY, HEY, DON'T TAKE
THEIR NUMBERS TO THE BANK. HOURS BEFORE THE CBO SCORE
BECAME PUBLIC, MIX McCONNELL HAD A STRIKINGLY DOUR ASSESSMENT.
HE SAID I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET TO 50 AT THE MOMENT BUT THAT'S
THE GOAL. THAT'S BASICALLY THE LAW IF
YOU'RE GOING TO DO ANYTHING. HE DOESN'T PLAY GAMES.
IF HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW HE'LL PASS HEALTH CARE IN THE SENATE,
IT'S BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW HE'LL PASS HEALTH CARE IN THE
SENATE. HE IS NOT ABOUT RAISING OR
LOWERING THE EXPECTATION BAR. THEY'RE NOT IN A GOOD PLACE
RIGHT NOW. IT COMES AS HEALTH CARE
ANXIETIES ARE DOMINATING. FROM THE BIG SKIES OF MONTANA
WHICH HOLD AS SPECIAL ELECTION TOMORROW TO THE SUBURBS OF
ATLANTA WHICH HOLD AS SPECIAL ELECTION NEXT MONTH.
>> HE SAYS HE'S THANKFUL FOR THE NEW HEALTH CARE BILL.
THE ONE THAT ELIMINATES PROTECTIONS FOR PRE-EXISTING
CONDITIONS. >> WE KNOW HE DIDN'T PAY HIS OWN
TAXES. YET HE WANTS TO RAISE OUR TAXES
FOR A GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER OF HEALTH CARE.
>> AS A DOCTOR AND A BREAST CANCER SURVIVOR MYSELF, WHAT
KAREN HANDEL DID IS UNFORGIVABLE.
>> I'M FIGHTING CANCER. WHEN I SEE ADS LIKE THAT, THEY
MAKE ME SICK. >> I JUST HAD FLASHBACKS TO
201014, 2010, 1994. YOU GET THE POINTS.
WE'RE GOING ON DIVE INTO THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION A LITTLE
LATER BUT WE BEGIN WITH THAT BREAKING NEWS ON THE
CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE SCORING THE HOUSE HEALTH CARE
BILL. JOINING ME NOW, SOMEONE I LIKE
TO TALK TO FOR ALL THINGS BUDGET AND UNDERSTANDING THE WONKINESS
OF WASHINGTON. HELP US SPEAK BUDGET-ESE FROM
THIS. WE KNOW THE BASICS HERE.
THE PREVIOUS SCORE WAS $23 MILLION.
THE DEFICIT NUMBER, ESSENTIALLY WENT UP, OR DOWN, HOWEVER YOU
MEAN. >> IT WILL BE HIGHER.
>> RIGHT. HIGHER.
SO THIS McARTHUR AMENDMENT ON THE ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS
GOT THE REPUBLICANS A MILLION MORE PEOPLE COVERED.
THEY WENT FROM 24 MILLION TO 23 MILLION UNCOVERED, FOR A PRICE
OF $31 BILLION. >> PROBABLY NOT OKAY.
>> AM I READING THIS CORRECTLY? >> YOU ARE.
BUT IT IS NOT JUST THAT THE COVERAGE WOULD BE, FEWER PEOPLE
WOULD BE COVERED. IS THAT SOME OF THE COVERAGE
WOULD BE LESS VALUABLE. SO IT IS NOT A COMPLETE APPLES
TO APPLES TIME THEY KNOW. $31 BILLION LESS AND OTHERS
WOULD HAVE COVERAGE EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULD PAY MORE.
REPUBLICANS WOULD SAY THE PREMIUM NUMBERS WILL GO DOWN.
THAT'S TRUE. BUT THEY SAY IF YOU HAVE A
PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, YOU ARE LIKELY TO GET PRICED OUT OF
MARKET. >> AGENCY SOMEONE WHO IS A
CANCER SURVIVOR, THERE CONCERNS ME GREATLY.
AND IT SHOULD CONCERN EVERYBODY. ALMOST EVERYBODY HAS A
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
>> IF YOU WERE BORN, YOU WERE BORN WITH A PRE-EXISTING
CONDITION. LIKE EVERYBODY.
AT SOME POINT A SCIENTIST CAN CLAIM ANYTHING IS A PRE-EXISTING
CONDITION VIA GENES. >> AND IT IS NOT JUST A QUESTION
OF LYING AROUND DOING NOTHING AND EATING FRIED FOODS.
MY DAD GAVE ME, I INHERITED HIS
GENES. LET'S KEEP IN MIND THE SENATE
HAS SAID THEY'RE NOT TAKING UP THE HOUSE BILL.
I THINK THIS WILL BE DIFFICULT FOR REPUBLICANS TO EXPLAIN.
I THINK THEY'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO
TAKE ANOTHER VOTE. >> EXPLAIN WHY THEY WOULD
REVOTE. I APOLOGIZE THE VIEWERS WHO SAY
WE'RE SPEAKING TOO. TO WASHINGTON.
WE'RE SAYING CBO, SCORING. THESE ARE NOT THE WAY MERGES
SPEAK WITH THEIR CHECKBOOKS. WHAT WOULD HAVE COME BACK FROM A
CBO THAT WOULD HAVE SAID REVOTE? >> IN SIMPLE TERMS, THE HOUSE
AND SENATE ARE CONSIDERING HEALTH CARE UNDER SPECIAL PROOLS
WOULD PREVENT A FILIBUSTER FROM BEING USED.
SO YOU NEED FEWER VOTES, YOU ONLY NEED 51 VOTES IN THE
SENATE. 50 IF MIKE PENCE IS WILLING TO
VOTE FOR SOMETHING. THE BILL THAT PASSED THE HOUSE
DIDN'T QUALIFY UNDER THOSE RULES.
THEY WERE WAITING FOR CBO TO SAY IT'S OKAY.
>> SO NOW THE BALL IS TRULY IN THE REPUBLICANS' COURT.
>> AND THEY WERE PROBABLY HELPING.
THE SENATE REPUBLICANS WERE PROBABLY HELPING.
>> THERE'S BEEN A -- THERE'S A REASON WHY HEALTH CARE WENT
FIRST AS FAR AS CONGRESS IS KERNELED.
THEY WANTED TO GET, THEY WANTED TO DO TAX REFORM TUNNELED 2018
BUDGET. THE DEFICIT OVER TEN YEARS, THEY
WANTED MORE THAN THAT TO APPLY TO TAX REFORM.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR TAX REFORM?
>> THE SIMPLE ANSWER IS THIS. I'VE BEEN TELL CLIENTS, THERE
DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY EASIER. TAIRP BECOMES MORE EXPENSIVE AND
MORE DIFFICULT TO FIND SAVINGS THEY NEED.
UNLESS THEY DECIDE THE HELL WITH THE DEFICIT.
WE'LL BLOW IT UP. WE'LL SPIKE IT.
WE DON'T TO HAVE PAY FOR THINGS. THEY STARTED WITH AN AGREEMENT.
IT WILL BE REVENUE NEUTRAL. HERE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT
AGREEMENT. THEY WERE HOPING THIS WOULD MAKE
THEIR LIVES EASIER. WHEN CBO SCORES THE BUDGET
EVENTUALLY AND WE'VE ALREADY SEEN THE SKIRMISHES, AND ALREADY
THERE'S A BACK AND FORTH ON THE ASSUMPTIONS ON ECONOMIC GROWTH,
THEIR ASSUMPTION ON 3% GROWTH, DID THEY USE GOOD MATH OR FUNNY
MATH? >> FUNNY MATH IS PROBABLY GIVING
AT THIS TIME BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
THE BUDGET RESERVE WITH WALL STREET SAYS 3% GROWTH IS
EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. THARL ESTIMATING LESS THAN 2%
GROWTH. SO WHERE MULVANY, WHERE THE
WHITE HOUSE CAME UP WITH 3% GROWTH.
IT LOOKS LIKE WISHFUL THINKING. >> LET'S SAY SOMEONE IS
WATCHING, WHAT IS THE MOST NEUTRAL ECONOMIC GROWTH
ASSESSMENT YOU CAN FIND? WHERE ARE THE MOST RELIABLE
INDICATORS FOR PROJECTIONS? >> THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET
OFFICE HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD JOB PROJECTING THE ECONOMY.
REMEMBER ANYTHING TEN YEARS FROM NOW IS PURE SPECULATION BY
ANYBODY. BUT CBO HAS DONE A PRETTY GOOD
JOB. REMEMBER, ITS ONLY PURPOSE THIS
LIFE IS TO GET THE NUMBERS RIGHT.
THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THE BUDGET OFFICE, YOU START TO
REGRESS TOWARD THE MEANS HERE. I WOULD TAKE IT ALMOST ANY DAY
OF THE WEEK NO MATTER WHOSE ADMINISTRATION IT IS.
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT ECONOMIC GROWTH BETWEEN LOWER THAN THREE
BUT ABOVE TWO. >> IT IS NOT CLEAR IT IS ABOVE
TWO. KEEP IN MIND, NICK MULL EVENTY,
IF WE DON'T BALANCE THE BUDGET, WE HAVE A LARGE, LARGE DEFICIT.
>> IS THERE A REALISTIC BUDGET THAT COULD HAPPEN FROM ANYBODY
IF YOU DON'T TOUCH HEALTH CARE? IT SEEMED THAT THEY WERE
CLAIMING A BALANCED BUDGET AND NOT TOUCHING SOCIAL SECURITY.
>> THEY WERE HOPING FOR RAPID GROWTH.
IT IS LIKE DURING
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