Breeland's gone.
Beck and Platt are locked up.
And I still don't know if we make Gate Station any better.
You might never know.
You just have to keep trying to save
the world one case at a time.
I'm co-creator Reggie Rock Bythewood,
and this is the final hour 10 roundtable
conversation of Shots Fired.
Phew.
I know.
(SINGING) (SINGING) Where do we go from here?
You know, so our main title song is called,
"Where Do We Go From Here?
And, you know, that was intentional.
Gina, let me start with you.
You know, where do we go from here?
What was so important to you and I
when we were putting together this show
and putting together the Bible was, how do we end it?
Where do we leave the audience?
And what I hoped we've created for an audience
is a great ride this 10 hours, this incredible journey that
gets bigger and bigger and bigger, but at the end
it ends with the two boys.
And that's what it really is about that these incidents are
happening and people are forgetting that these are
humans, that these are people.
See their humanity first before their race.
And that's really what I hope this show evokes is empathy
and people starting to see, no matter what they look
like that that could be me.
That could be my family, and I want this to change.
My bad, dude.
No problem, man.
I take Shameeka's make a point of view.
I think it's happening.
I think we are starting to organize
and really form strategies.
And I get a text message every day
about like, this is what you can do today.
Like, this is who you can call.
Like, here's the policy.
And I feel like the organizations exists
and these communities exists, but now
it's about working in cohesion.
It's OK to be on different sides.
It's not OK not to have the discussion.
We've got to have the discussion.
What really exemplifies that to me was seeing Ashe in Preston
break down, but knowing that we're
going to break down but we're going
to pick ourselves back up.
We are not broken.
And so the fight still continues.
The journey still continues.
And we're going to have instances
like this that happen again.
It's not like it's over.
But we've got to keep fighting.
And so that journey is always going to continue.
What is this?
A list of civil rights violations
from inmates at your various correctional facilities.
I'm never going to rest, not until you get what you deserve.
I'm just so proud to be a part of something that
is art and entertainment, as well as something that has
something to say that is so relevant in the world
that we're living in today.
I want to steal something from you.
Once you said it, I've been saying it in all my interviews,
that there's a long legacy of artists that use their art
to kind of forward consciousness and raise
consciousness from Langston Hughes
to Zora Neale Hurston, James Baldwin.
Somebody said Tupac.
I mean, we are part of that legacy now,
and that feels really good.
Thank you for being there when there was no one else.
Yeah, well, somebody once told me partners
got to have each other's back.
I'm gonna miss you.
I do want people to be entertained,
because that's important.
And yet I want discussion like what you said, and maybe
because there is a seat from every point at the table
in this, maybe just some thoughtfulness
and some empathy and some compassion.
That's what we need today.
We're in a time where there's a lot
of people talking but nobody listening to each other.
Or the wrong people talking and nobody listening.
I think the biggest thing that we
need right now is discussion.
The thing I love the most about this show
is that we give a glimpse on what
life is like on the other side, whatever side you're on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you get an opportunity to commiserate with someone
that you wouldn't usually or to feel feelings for somebody
that you would usually tend as the bad guy
or even feel negative feelings toward somebody that you
would consider the good guy.
I just pray that this opens up the necessary dialogue
and the necessary rooms to start moving things forward.
Welcome Deputy Brooks.
Thank you.
I know this won't happen overnight,
but I think we should get to know
the people of this community we're serving.
Yeah.
And I think they should get a chance to know us.
I love this town.
I'm an artist.
We are an artist.
And we created art.
And there's a quote that talks about this.
It's not the time for us to complain or to mourn,
this is a time where we write, where we art, where we create.
These are the times that creates some
of the most prolific and profound projects,
and this being one of them.
And so I'm glad to be a part of this
and I just want to continue to be deliberate about choosing
to do work that continues this conversation
and continues to provide images and continues
to provide platforms to have this conversation.
And also use whatever platform I am afforded to amplify
the voices of those who are in the trenches
and doing this work all day and all night.
The same grand jury that did the impossible--
indicted a cop, let another man guilty of the very same crime
roam free.
Rather than watching from the sidelines
we need to be active participants
in pursuit of justice.
There needs to be more of us in the jury pool.
You know, I've been pretty open with all
of you talking about how my grandfather was
a police officer.
He taught me how to drive and he's also the person that
told me what to do not if, but when
a racist cop pulls you over.
And that was kind of his consciousness.
But he never saw like a conflict between civil rights
and law enforcement.
And when I think back on that and just think about all
the research that we've done, I mean, it seems to me
that police officers should know the shop owners,
should know the preachers and the teachers and the coaches,
and that it shouldn't be a community under siege
from law enforcement.
And you make a really good point, guys, about people
not talking to each other.
Because we keep talking at each other.
There's no hope.
And I think that that's one of the moments I love in hour 10.
You're kind of town hall meeting that basically brings in a law
enforcement officer that a lot of people
don't want to hear from. - Yeah.
I think that's one of the things
also I got from Wanda Johnson and the work
that she's done at the Oscar Grant Foundation.
I was at an event for them and it was really startling
that at this event there were community activists,
there were preachers, there were politicians,
and there was law enforcement.
And, you know, it just seems to me
that we all have to recognize our power,
but I don't know where we go if all of these sides
are at odds with each other.
True.
We need to step up, y'all.
We need to step up.
They got these cops right here to make
sure we don't act a fool.
But we need to step up before these cops act a fool on one
our kids and get it.
We got to organize!
If y'all want to honor my son, if y'all want to honor Joey,
we can not be a reactionary community, not no more, y'all.
Not no more.
One of the things we also wanted to explore with this
was the fact that again, race played a role in the way
the two cases were handled in terms of the two boys,
but race was also a factor in the way you
were handled as opposed to Arlen Cox,
Richard Dreyfuss' character.
I mean, the way a jury, this grand jury saw you and the way
that they saw him.
And that they believed him and trusted
him that he made a mistake.
And that was enough where he didn't have to suffer
any consequences of killing a child,
where you did the same situation but you were punished for it.
And something that we're hoping that we can call
attention to so the world can understand
that race does play a role.
And how can we get away from that, and as Preston said,
start to see people's humanity first and not race first.
I'm asking you to empathize with a justice system that
needs to answer our prayers for fairness,
common sense, and humanity.
That is what is at stake here, folks, the humanity
of our justice system.
Because if Deputy Beck were a white cop, who pulled
over a black boy named Trayvon or Tameer, or Emmitt,
I'd be asking for the same thing.
I'd be asking for an indictment.
I think that was one of the essential questions
we asked ourselves too in creating
this character, Deputy Beck.
And certainly the casting was right on because we
asked ourselves, what would happen if a good guy
did something bad?
You know, you really get the sense that Beck is a good guy.
He loves his family and his kids.
But the law is the law, right?
You still have to be accountable.
And I feel like that's what gets lost a lot.
Certainly there are law enforcement that you know,
they have bad records and files and a whole bunch
of complaints against them.
But even if you're a good guy and you do something bad,
there's got to be accountability.
And I felt like that was just like one of the-- it
was just a real interesting journey
to not have to play it as like, oh, I'm a terrible guy.
It was just like, hard at times to not
like you, like even at times you don't want to like this dude.
But the way that you played it, and I felt like that's one
of the things that we tried to do,
and I think one of the reasons why we were so blessed
with our cast is that they made every character
like three-dimensional and never just
was these sort of like carbon copies of what
this character could be.
I just want to also touch on Reggie.
This was the finale and you directed it.
And just seeing that final montage when they bumped up
against each other, and even when
Preston, when you're seeing his face, at first I was
like, what is that?
I didn't realize what it was.
And then when the camera comes around and sees the two boys,
it was just amazing--
chills.
And I just have to commend you because I know
this was such a grueling shoot.
And I think that I always believed
that there's also a reason for the conditions of a shoot.
It's a grueling subject.
All the elements were grueling about it.
And you came in at the end and just put a nice kind of bow
on our experience.
And you were the perfect energy to have.
Absolutely.
Wasn't it?
Like such a calming presence.
Yes, it was.
We needed-- we needed you to pull
us through to that finish line.
Thank you.
How about the synchronicity that you always
talk that the last day of shooting
ended up on Emmett Till's birthday.
That was so--
How crazy is that?
And it was all started, the seed of this
was started with you showing Cassius
and Emmett Till documentaries.
Right.
It was really, really crazy.
Yeah.
But where also the synchronicity
and the everything happens for a reason--
I mean, y'all don't know, like, Reg was supposed
to direct a different one.
Yeah, I remember that.
And things happened where he wasn't able to,
and so he ended up, he'll do the finale.
But it's how it should of been.
You know, grand opening, grand closing.
You know, I just want to say, thank you to all of you
for being a part of this journey with us.
And I want to just thank all of you
for joining us for Shots Fired and ultimately where
we go from here is up to you.
Word.
Thank you.
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