GOT TO GET THOSE COSTS DOWN. WE HAVE GOT TO GET THOSE COSTS
DOWN. >> SENATOR, IT'S WILLIE GEIST.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THIS MORNING.
>> HI, WILLIE. >> HI.
I WANT TO SKU ABOUT THE RESPONSE FROM THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO
HILLARY CLINTON'S LOSS IN NOVEMBER, A SURPRISE LOSS FOR
MOST PEOPLE INSIDE THE PARTY. THERE SEEMED TO BE TWO DIFFERENT
SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON HOW THE PARTY SHOULD PROCEED, ONE SAYS
LET'S GO FARTHER LEFT, LET'S DIG IN DEEPER IN WHO WE ARE IN OUR
PROGRESSIVE VALUES AND OTHERS WHO SAY WE NEED TO BE MORE
MODERATE AND WIN BACK SOME OF THOSE VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR
BARACK OBAMA BUT FLIPPED THEIR VOTES AND VOTED FOR DONALD
TRUMP, PEOPLE IN STATES LIKE WISCONSIN AND PENNSYLVANIA AND
MICHIGAN. WHERE DO YOU FALL ON THAT
SPECTRUM? DO YOU BELIEVE THE NEXT
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE SHOULD BE MORE PROGRESSIVE THAN HILLARY
CLINTON WAS OR BE A LITTLE MORE MODERATE THAN SHE WAS?
>> WILLIE, LOOK, I AM A PROUD PROGRESSIVE SO THAT PART IS EASY
FOR ME. LET ME SAY ON THIS I ACTUALLY
THINK THAT'S THE WRONG FRAME. I THINK THE OLD PROGRESSIVE,
MODERATE, LEFT, RIGHT JUST DOESN'T DESCRIBE MUCH OF WHERE
AMERICA IS ANYMORE. THINK ABOUT THE CORE ECONOMIC
ISSUES, THE THINGS THAT TOUCH FAMILIES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
THINK ABOUT WHERE MOST OF AMERICA IS.
LETTING STUDENTS GET AN EDUCATION WITHOUT GETTING
CRUSHED BY STUDENT LOAN DEBT, LOWERING THE COST OF
PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, EXPANDING SOCIAL SECURITY, RAISING THE
MINIMUM WAGE, MORE REGULATION NOT LESS FOR GIANT FINANCIAL
INSTITUTIONS. ON THESE CORE ECONOMIC ISSUES
AMERICANS SUPPORT THEM BY ABOUT TWO TO ONE AND THAT MEANS
EVERYBODY, NOT JUST DEMOCRATS, IT'S DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS,
INDEPENDENTS, LIBERTARIANS, VEGETARIANS BY ABOUT TWO TO ONE
AMERICANS SUPPORT HOW IT IS THAT WE BUILD A FUTURE, AND THE WAY I
LOOK AT THAT, THAT IS THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA.
IN OTHER WORDS, THE PROGRESSIVE AGENDA IS AMERICA'S AGENDA.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS A PARTY IS WE NEED TO GET OUT THERE AND
FIGHT FOR IT. WE NEED TO SHOW ME WHAT IT IS
WE'RE FIGHTING FOR, WHY WE'RE FIGHTING AND THAT WE REALLY ARE
COMMITTED TO MAKING A CHANGE TO MAKE WASHINGTON ONCE AGAIN NOT
JUST WORK FOR THE TOP 10%, TO MAKE WASHINGTON ONCE AGAIN WORK
FOR EVERYBODY ELSE. >> SO IF THAT IS THE WINNING
PHILOSOPHY, SENATOR, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE IT IS YOUR
PHILOSOPHY, EVERYTHING YOU JUST LAID OUT THERE, ALL THINGS YOU
BELIEVE IN, THERE ARE AN AWFUL LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY
WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU RUN FOR PRESIDENT IN A COUPLE OF
YEARS. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT INTERESTS
YOU? >> WILLIE, WHAT I'M -- NO.
>> IT DOESN'T INTEREST YOU? >> WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT RIGHT
NOW -- LOOK, I'M IN MY SENATE RACE, I'M UP FOR REELECTION IN
2018, I'M GOING TO RUN, I'M ALL IN ON THAT.
BUT HERE IS THE DEAL, WILLIE, I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT DONALD
TRUMP IS GOING TO DO BETWEEN RIGHT NOW AND THE TIME I GO TO
BED TONIGHT. I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT HE'S
GOING TO DO BETWEEN THE TIME I GO TO BED TONIGHT AND THE TIME I
WAKE UP TOMORROW MORNING, WHAT WILL HE DO AT 3:00 A.M. ON
TWITTER? WE HAVE TO BE IN THIS FIGHT
URGENTLY RIGHT NOW. I TOTALLY GET WHY PEOPLE WANT TO
TALK ABOUT 2020 AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO, BUT THAT'S WAY DOWN
THE LINE. DONALD TRUMP HAS BARELY
COMPLETED 100 DAYS AND IT'S NOT JUST WHAT HE SAYS IT'S THE
THINGS HE IS DOING TO WORKING PEOPLE.
THAT HE'S MAKING IT OKAY FOR, YOU KNOW -- EASIER FOR
CORPORATIONS THAT KILL AND MAIM THEIR EMPLOYEES TO HIDE THAT
FACT, MAKING IT EASIER FOR FEDERAL CONTRACTORS TO STEAL
EMPLOYEES' WAGES, MAKING IT EASIER FOR INVESTMENT ADVISORS
TO CHEAT RETIREES. WE'VE GOT TO STAY ON WHAT DONALD
TRUMP -- NOT WHAT HE SAYS, WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS DOING RIGHT NOW.
>> SENATOR, FORGIVE THE INTERRUPTION, SENATOR.
>> SURE. I'M SORRY.
>> IT'S NOT A 20/20 PARLOR GAME FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY YOU ARE PRECISELY THE PERSON WHO COULD
STOP DONALD TRUMP FOR DOING THESE THINGS.
IS THAT SOMETHING AS IT COMES UP TO BE OF INTEREST TO YOU TO RUN
FOR PRESIDENT? >> WILLIE, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS
WE CAN'T WAIT FOUR YEARS TO STOP DONALD TRUMP.
>> RIGHT. >> BUT, NO, IT'S AN IMPORTANT
POINT, WILLIE. DEMOCRACY WORKS IF WE ENGAGE IN
THE FIGHTS RIGHT NOW. THE REASON THAT THE REPUBLICANS
AND DONALD TRUMP HAVE NOT REPLACED OBAMACARE WITH TRUMP
CARE IS BECAUSE PEOPLE AROUND THIS COUNTRY HAVE GOTTEN
ENGAGED. ENGAGEMENT IS CRITICAL AND IT'S
ENGAGEMENT NOT IN A DISTANT ELECTION, IT'S ENGAGEMENT IN
TODAY'S FIGHT. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO KEEP
OUR FOCUS ON AND, BOY, YOU BETTER BELIEVE I AM IN THAT
FIGHT ALL THE WAY. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THAT
FIGHT, THOUGH, DAY TO DAY WHEN YOU SAY YOU WORRY ABOUT THIS
PRESIDENT IS GOING TO DO IN THE NEXT FEW HOURS BECAUSE THAT'S
SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE PAST 24 HOURS ON
THIS SHOW. EACH YESTERDAY WE KIND OF PUT IS
OUT THERE THE LAST 48 HOURS FOR HIM HE HAD SOME REALLY
INCOHERENT STATEMENTS AND DISTURBING STATEMENTS.
ARE YOU AT ALL WORRIED ABOUT HIS CLARITY OF THOUGHT AND HIS
ABILITY TO DO THE JOB LITERALLY AT THIS MOMENT?
>> OF COURSE I'M WORRIED. I JUST LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE THAT
COMES OUT. JUST LIKE YOU DO.
BUT, AGAIN, I TRY TO STAY FOCUSED.
WHAT IS HE ADVANCING? AND HERE IS WHY, MIKA, BECAUSE
IT'S NOT JUST WHAT DONALD TRUMP IS SAYING AND DOING, IT'S THE
REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE AND WHAT TOGETHER THEY
ARE DOING TO THIS COUNTRY. YEAH, I WORRY A LOT ABOUT DONALD
TRUMP, I REALLY WORRY ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, BUT I WORRY ABOUT
ALL OF THE LEVERS OF GOVERNMENT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE
REPUBLICANS CONTROL ALL OF THEM. IF HOUSE AND SENATE REPUBLICANS
WERE WILLING TO ACT AS A CHECK ON DONALD TRUMP, WE WOULD BE IN
A DIFFERENT WORLD. >> RIGHT.
>> BUT INSTEAD RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ROLLING BACK ONE REGULATION
AFTER ANOTHER, THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN ONCE AGAIN
TO ADVANCE THE INTERESTS OF GIANT FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, OF
THE BIGGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THIS COUNTRY.
>> YEAH. >> AND AT THE MIDDLE CLASS, YOU
KNOW, HERE IS WHAT I TALK ABOUT, YOU WERE RIGHT, MIKA, THIS ONE
IS PERSONAL FOR ME. THIS IS HOW I GREW UP.
I AM DEEPLY GRATEFUL TO AN AMERICA THAT BUILT OPPORTUNITIES
FOR ME AND IN THIS BOOK I TALK ABOUT THE STORIES, ABOUT WHAT
IT'S LIKE TO BE A YOUNG PERSON TODAY, ABOUT KYE WHO IS A LOT
LIKE I WAS ONLY THE DIFFERENCE NOW FOR HER IS SHE'S 27 YEARS
OLD, WASN'T ABLE TO FINISH HER DIPLOMA AND SHE HAS $100,000 OF
STUDENT LOAN DEBT. I TALK ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE MICHAEL
WHO JUST BUSTED HIS TAIL ALL HIS LIFE AND THEN THE 2008 CRISIS
HITS AND HE NOT ONLY LOSES HIS JOB, HE LOSES HIS HOUSE.
HE DESCRIBES THAT CRASH AS IT BROKE MY HEART.
AND HERE IS WASHINGTON, CONTINUING TO WORK FOR THOSE AT
THE TOP. CONTINUING TO WORK FOR THOSE WHO
HAVE MONEY. AND IT'S NOT JUST MONEY FOR
CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS AND MONEY FOR LOBBYISTS, IT'S MONEY
EVERYWHERE. IT'S BOUGHT AND PAID FOR
EXPERTS, IT'S SO-CALLED THINK TANKS FUNDED BY SHADOWY GROUPS.
IT'S ABOUT -- IT'S ABOUT MONEY THAT DOESN'T ADVERTISING AND
EFFECTS THE COVERAGE OF THE NEWS.
IT'S ABOUT HOW MONEY AFFECTS THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
OUR WHOLE DEMOCRACY IS AT RISK AND DONALD TRUMP RIGHT NOW ALONG
WITH THE REPUBLICANS, THEY ARE POISED TO DELIVER A KNOCKOUT
BLOW TO WORKING FAMILIES. OUR ONLY CHANCE IS TO FIGHT BACK
AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US TO DO IT.
>> REALLY QUICK QUESTION. >> SURE.
>> YOU HAD SAID THAT REPUBLICANS CONTROLLED ALL LEVERS OF POWER.
OF COURSE WE ARE ALL OBSESSED WITH HOW DONALD TRUMP WON,
EVERYBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT HOW DID THIS GUY GET ELECTED
PRESIDENT AND SAY WHAT HAPPENED HERE, WHAT HAPPENED THERE, BUT
THE MORE INTERESTING QUESTION IS WHY DO REPUBLICANS CONTROL ALL
LEVERS OF POWER? WHY HAVE DEMOCRATS LOST, WHAT,
12, 14 SENATE SEATS IN SIX YEARS, 12, 14 GOVERNOR SHIPS
OVER THE PAST SIX YEARS. IT'S NOT LIKE REPUBLICANS HAVE
DONE ANYTHING OTHER THAN BASICALLY RECHURN RONALD
REAGAN'S 1980 CAMPAIGN THEME. IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE ARE GOING,
OH, MY GOD, THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO TAKE US IN A NEW DIRECTION.
THE VERY THINGS THAT YOU'RE SAYING THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING
RIGHT NOW ARE BASICALLY THE THINGS THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE
BEEN PROMISING TO DO, CUT REGULATIONS, CUT THIS, CUT THAT.
SO I GUESS THE LAST QUESTION GOES BACK TO MY FIRST QUESTION
TO YOU WHICH IS WHAT ARE THE DEMOCRATS MISSING?
WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE VOTING FOR A PARTY OVERWHELMINGLY OVER THE
PAST SIX YEARS AND PUTTING THEM IN POWER?
WHY DO REPUBLICANS HAVE ALL THE LEVERS OF POWER RIGHT NOW WHEN
PEOPLE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY GOT
INTO POWER AND MOST IMPORTANTLY HOW DO DEMOCRATS REVERSE THAT --
THAT EQUATION? >> SO, LOOK, I -- WE HAVE TO
TAKE FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS.
IF DEMOCRATS ARE FIGHTING FOR AMERICA'S WORKING FAMILIES THEN
IT IS UP TO US TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.
AND IF WE ARE NOT FIGHTING LOUD ENOUGH AND WE ARE NOT FIGHTING
HARD ENOUGH AND WE ARE NOT FIGHTING SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE
IT, THEN SHAME ON US. AND IF WE'RE NOT FIGHTING THEN
PEOPLE HAVE NO REASON TO PUT FAITH IN US.
SO THE WAY I SEE THIS IS WE JUST HAVE TO GET BACK IN THE FIGHT.
WE HAVE TO LIVE OUR VALUES EVERY SINGLE DAY.
AND IT'S NOT JUST ENOUGH TO ATTACK DONALD TRUMP.
WE HAVE TO SHOW WHAT WE STAND FOR AND WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO
PUT IT OUT THERE. EVERYBODY CAN DESCRIBE WHAT IT
MEANS TO BE A REPUBLICAN. IT OUGHT TO BE THE CASE THAT
EVERYBODY CAN DESCRIBE WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A DEMOCRAT AND FOR
ME THAT MEANS TO BE ON THE TEAM THAT'S REALLY OUT THERE TRYING
TO BUILD OPPORTUNITY. NOT JUST FOR THOSE AT THE TOP,
BUT TRYING TO BUILD OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL OF OUR KIDS.
THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE THAT THIS FIGHT IS OUR FIGHT.
>> THAT'S THE NAME OF THE BOOK, THE BOOK IS "THIS FIGHT IS OUR
FIGHT, THE BATTLE TO SAVE AMERIC
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