MINISTER AND I DON'T THINK IT WAS MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
>> WITH ME, HOWARD DEAN A MEDICAL DOCTOR KNOWS A LOT ABOUT
POLITICS. HE'S FORMER VERMONT GOVERNOR,
FORMER CHAIR OF THE DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE.
GOOD EVENING, SIR. BEFORE I ASK YOU ABOUT HEALTH
CARE, SINCE YOU WERE FORMER HEAD CHAIRMAN OF THE DNC, WHAT ARE
YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THE BREAKING NEWS OUT OF PARIS THAT ONE OF
THE CANDIDATES THAT WAS HACKED AND THIS DONE AT A LATE HOUR, WE
DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONTENT IS, BUT NONETHELESS, HACKED?
>> WELL, I THINK PUTIN HAS AN AFFECTS FOR RIGHT WING WOULD-BE
AUTOCRATS AND HERE WE GO AGAIN. I THINK MACRON HAS GOT THE
SITUATION UNDER CONTROL. THEY PUT IN FALSE DOCUMENTS
ALONG WITH LEGITIMATE DOCUMENTS WHICH MOST LIKELY HAPPENED AT
THE DNC. I'D BE FASCINATED TO SEE THIS IN
LIGHT OF WHAT HAPPENED TO MACRON.
>> LET ME TURN NOW TO HEALTH CARE AND THE STATUS OF THE
HEALTH CARE. WHAT DO YOU EXPECT TO COME OUT
OF THE SENATE? >> CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT
LOOKS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THIS. IF ANYTHING COMES OUT OF THE
SENATE, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE GUYS
PASSED THIS THING AND IT MAY NOT HOLD UP TO THE SENATE PARLIAMENT
ARIAN. IF McKANL WANTS TO RAM A BILL
THROUGH, HE MAY HAVE TO FIRE THE SENATE PARLIAMENT ARIAN, I DON'T
KNOW THAT. THERE IS STUFF YOU'RE NOT
SUPPOSED TO PUT IN A BILL LIKE THIS.
IT IS VERY COMPLICATED HAVING TO DO WITH THE RULES THE HOUSE
USED. THEY BASICALLY BENT THE RUMZ.
WHETHER THE SENATE PARLIAMENT ARIAN LETS THEM DO THAT OR NOT,
I DON'T KNOW. THE OTHER PIECE IS I THINK THERE
ARE ENOUGH SENATORS SO THAT THIS -- A BILL LIKE THIS CAN'T
PASS. EVEN WITHOUT A FILIBUSTER, I
DON'T THINK WHAT THE THEY DID W PASSED.
ALSO, THE HOUSE LIED THROUGH THEIR TEETH ON THIS BILL.
THIS BILL TAKES AWAY PREEXISTING CONDITIONS.
SLYLY BY CHARGING PEOPLE A HUGE AMOUNT MORE IF THEY HAVE A
PREEXISTING CONDITION. TAKES A TRILLION DOLLARS OUT OF
MEDICAID TO USE FOR THEIR TAX CUTS LATER ON TO HELP ALL THEIR
BILLIONAIRE FRIENDS. SO, THIS IS A REALLY TRULY AWFUL
BILL. I THOUGHT IT WAS AMAZING THAT
CHARLIE COOK TOOK 20 SEATS AWAY FROM THE REPUBLICANS LEANING
REPUBLICAN AS A RESULT OF THIS BILL IN A 24-HOUR PIER.
THIS IS PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY. >> I DID NOT LIKE THE SORT OF
GARDEN PARTY IN THE ROSE GARDEN, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CHEERING AND
THE -- SORT OF LIKE WE WIN. BECAUSE, FIRST OF ALL, BESIDES
THE FACT IT'S ONLY PARTLY DONE, IT ALSO SEEMS SORT OF GAMEY AND
UNSEEMLY. BUT LIKEWISE, I DIDN'T LIKE THE
DEMOCRATS, THE FEW WHO WERE SORT OF CHANTING IN THE CHAMBER, AND
I ALSO THINK IT IS UNSEEMLY THAT TONIGHT THE ADS ARE OUT WHEN
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH CARE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE.
THIS IS SERIOUS, THIS ISN'T A GAME OF WINNING OR LOSING IN MY
EYES. DO YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT ON THE
DEMOCRATS' RESPONSE TO THIS? >> YOU KNOW, MY VIEW IS THAT THE
POLITICAL SYSTEM IN WASHINGTON HAS BEEN BROKEN FOR ABOUT 20
YEARS. WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE THAT
YOU COULD BEST GET AHEAD BY DEMONIZING YOUR OPPOSITION BY
SAYING ALL KINDS OF CRAZY OUTLANDISH STUFF AND FAKE NEWS
BECAME A WEAPON WHICH WAS A LONG TIME AGO, NOT JUST DONALD TRUMP.
I THINK THE POLITICAL PROCESS WENT DOWN HILL IN THIS COUNTRY.
WHICH IS WHY MOST PEOPLE DON'T THINK MUCH OF CONGRESS.
>> IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU SEE TURNING AROUND ANY TIME SOON?
>> MAYBE SOONER THAN LATER. WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS GET MY
GENERATION OUT OF CONGRESS AND GET OUT OF POLITICS AND GET THE
YOUNGER GENERATION WHICH IS MORE WILLING TO LISTEN TO EACH OTHER
INTO POLITICS. THE YOUNGER GENERATION IS MORE
PRAGMATIC. THEY'RE WILLING TO WORK
TOGETHER. THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT AS
AFFILIATED WITH PARTIES AS WE ARE.
WE WERE THE CULTURE WAR GENERATION.
I THINK A LOT OF GOOD THINGS WERE DONE BY MY GENERATION,
PARTLY IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS AREA. BUT I THINK IT'S TIME WE GOT OUT
OF POLITICS AND I THINK THE BEHAVIOR OF THE REPUBLICANS ON
THE DAY OF THE HEALTH CARE BILL PASSING, THIS WAS FRAT BOYS WHO
ARE 65 YEARS OLD CELEBRATING. I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THEM TO GO
HOME. >> EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE
DEMOCRATS CRITICISM? >> I WOULDN'T BE QUITE AS TOUGH
ON THE DEMOCRATS SIMPLY BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THEY BEHAVED AS B
BADLY. >> ANYWAY, GOVERNOR, ALWAYS NICE
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