This is Deliverance Ministry.FM video cast number 49.
Welcome to another episode of Deliverance Ministry.FM, where we give you proven insights
about the demonic realm and deliverance ministry so that you can wage spiritual warfare more
effectively.
My Name is Dr Don Ibbitson here behind the microphone once again with my cohost and colleague
Dr Phyllis.
Hey, good to be here with you again.
And this is episode 49 and we've got a topic today that as, um, we've encountered a lot
and we've seen a lot and people that have come in here for help and it's a very, uh,
damaging spirit.
It's called the title of it really is, how to deal with a religious spirit.
So today we're going to look at that.
We're going to look at a religious spirit.
What is it?
What are the evidences are indicators of it?
Yeah, the effects that it has, the fruit of it, and, and, and give us some examples of
things that we've seen.
And then finally, hopefully, you know, tell you get your ideas on some things that you
can nurture, what proper responses are for that.
So with that, let's start out really what I mean as you look for a definition of religious
spirits.
Um, what, what do you come up with Phyllis?
When you lose somebody, ask for a religious spirit of mean what, what's the first thing
that comes to your mind?
A spirit that's trying to take away the grace of God, you know, and, and, and his unconditional
level, it really wants you to be more operational in works, in mechanical things.
And you know, it's, it's threatening with that.
So there's no grace involved.
No, I think that's a good.
You know, it's, there's, there are different examples.
I mean, we've looked around and tried to come up with one concise one, but I think it's
more easier to see what's the fruit of it.
And it's because it's, you know, the gospel of grace and the good news of the Gospel,
of course, there's so many facets to it is that it's not about doing anymore.
It's about being, it's about you.
Our job is to believe and receive and that the and the goodness and the grace of God
and living in grace know what that means.
And being able to believe and receive unconditional love for us or someone who was tormented by
a religious spirit.
And once again, when we talk religious spirit, now we're we, we are terminology.
There is a demon spirit within a religious spirit that are associated with it.
And people who have that indwelling them, I need deliverance from it.
And so we're, that's what we're going to really be focusing on here is that religious spirit.
And as you see, I think it's good that the, that the focus, you know, if you look at the
Gospel, we get born again, we get saved, we get a new spirit and the spirit of God in
us, the Christian walk is being spanked by being changed, being transformed from the
inside out.
Let the, let the, our solar be transformed, renewed, and this will, the work of God will
move from the inside out.
But in the realm of the religious spirit wants us to focus from the outside in focus on works.
If you do the right things, you are being.
God is going to have the favor of God.
You're going to be.
You're going to be better and, and the change will come by doing the right things, then
you'll be transformed and changed inside if that's important to you.
But the focus many times is on the work's doing or not doing, you know, things is important
rather than just believing and receiving.
So I'm in, once again, it's uh, it is, uh, it's a very damaging spirit.
It's, it hurts people's walks and I'm in, you know, you know, people can be raised in
religious and that's not a good thing.
And so that's, like I say, we see a lot of people in here, many times people who've been
raised in religious environments and it can be not any particular denomination or church
things they get raised under, you know, a lot of the hell fire and brimstone and I'm
doing this or not doing that.
That's their view of what it takes to be a good Christian and they have that and that,
these things, they can have that spirit working in their life and it's a major.
It's an itch nature of torment.
Right.
So, um, what are, what are some, I guess it gets you weren't evidences or indicators if
somebody is operating in the realm of a religious spirit or under the influence of that, what
are, what are some things that they typically going to be exhibiting?
Well, I think the one that hits me the most is, you know, that there's people that come
in for counseling.
They had this tendency to be, feel worthless, like they're not good enough for God.
Um, that they, that they, they feel like they're, um, you know, they're, they're judged and
there they judge others too.
So there's a comparison thing that kind of goes on with them.
They, they hold themselves up to others to see if they're, um, if they're, they're getting
the right, I'm doing the right things.
So, but they never feel like they measure up.
They are hard on themselves, very hard on themselves.
They can be critical of others too.
But typically what they'll do is they focus on themselves.
There's a lot of spirits of self that are at work.
There, a lot of spirits of religious spirits, of legalism.
Like they don't feel like they've prayed and off or have they done enough or they don't.
You know, when you, when you tell anything about the glory of God and will by the grace
of God, what he's doing in your life, they're reaction is always, oh gosh, I don't ever
get any of that.
I must not be.
I must not be good enough.
You know?
It comes across like that.
Yeah.
I think it's, it's.
Once again, I think if we could just try to highlight one aspect of this religious spirit
in a person's life.
It does.
It tends to focus on the externals on what's happening on the outside and you start by
how they look at others.
David, you know, we were, they tended judge others.
Look at others by war in general, what they're doing or not doing.
It could be the mindset, well they need to be dressed a certain way or they need to be
doing this certain thing and it's because they don't look the part.
They don't look like they're, you know, Christ like enough.
I don't know what else terms.
You have it.
So there's that focus on the external because you've heard it said, you know, God really
cares about what's on the inside.
It was like, praise God, he loves us while we were still sinners.
Christ died for us and so we're all a work in progress.
But.
And
that external focus is that something else?
I mean we've been in ministries where, where that external point a how our behavior as
the flock makes the head pastor look so you can see, you can see like I know on a ministry
it once we were, we were all sitting together and a bunch of us just sat down.
I'm in the middle of worship because the leader sat down and then the leader about how to
meltdown because we were sitting and it was making her look bad and so you know that how,
how we, how our actions reflected on her was, was that spirit of religion that was operating
in her because it was still focused on that outward appearance.
And another piece of it is like it's constantly trying to earn God's favor.
And I talked about that before with like the person that feels worthless, but you know,
they're always trying to earn it.
They're trying to do something to measure up to the Lord standards.
They're always, you know, whether it's guilt and shame, you'll see that a lot in a lot
of the religious, um, real religious heavy religion churches where the guilt and the
shame will actually try to make that person like they feel like they have to measure up.
And so they're always trying to earn God's favor somehow.
Something, right?
Yeah.
Going enough services.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, you know, a lot of family relatives that grown up, you know, they, they had to
be at every church service.
They, they, you know, one of our family members actually caught pneumonia and ended up dying
because she came out in the middle of a, of a winter blizzard up north because of that
religious spirit that she had to be there at every time the church doors open and the
pastors come in to her was why in the world are you here?
Go home.
But that said that she had to earn it.
It was like, you know, she had to do, like you said, not be, but do
well and you'll hear it, isn't it?
I don't know how you read the more I don't read enough, I don't pray enough, you know,
and, and it's just like that measuring up and yes, we want to read the word we, that's
how we build the relationship with the Lord and it's like.
But that's sort of that phrasing of just if I read more, if I give more, if I do
favor is built into us as a society to be honest with you because we're, we're people
that do or people that feel we want to see.
We want to touch you on hold.
You know, I, I got to admit to you that in the morning if I only read the Bible safer
late 20 minutes, I feel that spirit starting to come at me like, oh look at you.
You only spend 20 minutes, you know, and it wants to.
It can harass you from the outside.
Doesn't necessarily mean that you walk with it, but you've got to guard your heart against
it too because it wants to drag you in with guilt and shame and you just have to rebuke
it too.
So you know you're free.
I mean, we are free that we have grace from the Lord.
Well, and it can go the other way if we do a lot.
Hey, I feel good.
I reading.
Oh yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Praying on that pride thing against him past the mark here, so.
Yep.
Yep, Yep.
And you can recognize that a lot of times if your prayers get mechanical, like I know
we do, we do very legalistic prayers here at that.
That above and beyond, we have very legalistic prayers that we give to our people, but I'm
always very careful when I hand them out and I say, you're dealing with a legalistic enemy.
This is not to replace your intimate time with the Lord, but this is you.
You know, you're taking authority.
So if you've got prayers that you read as part of spiritual warfare to take authority
over the land that don't get this confused with that, but if your prayers are always
and you know you're and you just, you don't even have peace until you get through praying
them, then you know, then that's a religious spirit.
Well, exactly.
And I think just to clarify, in case everybody's confused, to see all the listed, we give her
a paper sheet that has the words on it and just encourage them to.
You read this right?
Always to use your own words.
It gives you the flavor, it gives you the and, and what you, what you can be doing.
Exactly.
So I think that's, that's an important thing to, to, uh, to emphasize.
So, so trying to earn God's favor, not just being able, you know, once again, the yardstick,
you'll never get there if it's, you know, just not understanding the grace in what Christ
happened on the cross.
Soaring got so out of that.
If we have that yardstick for ourselves, many times we'll, we'll take that.
And once again, more critical of others, we will tend to be critical of what others are
doing or they're not doing this or not reading enough.
They're not doing whatever they're doing.
And so there's, that's an indicator when you hear somebody who's talking badly or, or test
to be critical of others, you know, so much of the Gospel is about bearing with each other,
you know, forgive whatever grievances, bear with each other and level whatever and collages
and talking about put on grace, put on humility, you know?
So yeah, but a lot of times you'll see people start to critique
and then they'll actually find themselves.
I've heard clients say this, that they can't find the perfect church.
They can't find there is no church.
That's perfect because there's always people in it too, so you know, but they're looking
for that perfect church and, and they find themselves go into church and instead of focusing
on the word of God, they're actually sitting there looking for any flaw that could possibly
come up that's going to taint it.
And they'll say, I've become so hypercritical when I sit in a church service now it's like
I'm just constantly looking for whatever is wrong with it.
And then you know, that's a religious spirit where you, where you feel like it's your job
almost watch dog, the body of Christ and you're going to, you know, that you focus on the
problems in the church or, or what about this, you'll see a lot in this, this is grievous.
But you'll see a lot of people in the church just out, you know, smash and other ministries,
they'll find you on facebook.
They're constantly coming against them and, and they're, they're bringing up the things
that a pontic, watchdogs theme, picking out the patrol in the kingdom to ensure sound
teaching or doctrine in that.
I believe that that's a religious spirit.
I think at the core.
That's exactly right, because, you know, it's just, we get focused on the minor or major
on the minors and the details.
It's easy to find, you know, find things where we disagree and really focusing on those things
rather than looking at those things that kind of bind us together.
So there's a tendency to be critical of others we've talked about already really on a focus
on Christian works right out on the works of ministry rather than on the people in their
relationships.
And their work's important.
Yes they are.
We are to be in a church and work be active contributors.
You talked some about some of the people were, you know, were were to be active participants
in and be part of the church.
But um, the focus again beyond on the doing rather than on the, on the relationships and
rather run with the people.
Right?
So, um, lack.
We see it too.
Sometimes there's, you'll just talk about people who sometimes you're tired, you're
just there just spiritually tired, you know, they're just, um, they can be spiritually
tired or they can be spiritually feeling pretty good because they feel like they've got to
score it, you know, their grades, there's a there, you know, and so they're, they're
good or they're or they're down.
I need to do better.
I need to try harder.
And a lot of what's characterized lifetime.
Joseph can just be a fatigue that sends in.
And there's, as you said, they can go through the motions.
So how much Bible, how many Bible verses
then they come in, they burn out.
Yeah, they read on the word I had to read more Bible or how many verses I'm reading
these verses a day and they can read it, it would be mechanical, but they don't have a
passion for the word of God.
And I, you know, we did an article not too long ago where we've seen where people, the
Bible can be an idol for people.
They can just get focused on the word and it's for study, if I will tell, you know?
And so Bible study is good, but I think a lot, a lot of people, and I'm not knocking
bios of people don't know this here, this wrong, but you know, studying the Bible is
not bad.
But a lot of times a lot of testers and Josh were, were to meditate, careful to do the
things in it.
And so meditation and study is different.
So if it can be, you can get fatigued and there can get focused.
So focused on that.
Lord, the book of the Lord that we, we don't have that contact or that intimacy with the
Lord of the book.
Well, and yeah, and that's a very good point.
And I, and I, and I think that's true, I've heard a lot of young people that have come
in and they've said to me, I just can't do this Christian walk.
It's too hard.
And I'm like, what's too hard?
Well, it, you know, you, you get burnout, all this stuff that you have to do, you know,
just to have to reread this and doing that and doing this.
And I just, I'm fatigued with it all because I just, you know, I'm just burnout.
I just, I'm not good enough.
I'm not going to be able to be good enough.
And you know, that you can see there, there's the grace and the love and the intimacy in
baptism of the spirit is really not there.
Right.
Because exactly.
It's just work.
It's all just work.
Yeah.
If you just, you know, the, the whole Bible is about, is about believing and receiving
the things that God has done for us.
And you know, the grace and the love of God, I think so many people haven't had enough
of that teaching or they maybe they read it, they don't believe it, they don't deserve
it.
They can't read.
So it's easier to focus sometimes on the do's and the don'ts.
And I'm not saying you know, that there is an element of doing and walk in obedience,
but that we want that to come out of our relationship with the Lord.
I response to the revelation of what he has done for us.
So much.
Paul trying to say, Jeff, you just understand and give you a spirit of wisdom.
And so you would know him more.
And so out of that we, you know, even if we don't have that revelation, then it's easier
to read.
Divert to that, to the scorecard.
Well, the dams and the Donaldson and, and, and still believe in that because, you know,
one of the questions we always ask people as well, where you get into half an, and I'm
sure you know in that sessions is if you die today, where would you be?
You know, I'd be in heaven.
I think, well, why would it be in, you know, and they just into the responses and sometimes
the responses of people is just, they just really, really well.
I've been good enough, you know, I've done enough.
I'm, I'm not bad.
I treat people well.
You to go to church, you know, it's at do thing instead of, you know.
And so that's the mindset.
Yeah, I hear that a lot to Alaska.
I say, what's your intimacy level with the Lord has that.
Oh, well yeah, I grew up in church, so I'm very spiritual and what does that mean?
Um, and then they'll do me the laundry list of I do this and I do that and I do this and
I did that.
And somebody says I'm spiritual.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's, it is a code word.
You're right.
And, and also you can see that they're also, they strive for position.
Like I've, I've seen this with people and you know, I, I fell into this a long time
ago to where you want to be noticed for, for your gifts.
You don't want to go to a church where they're not going to notice you and they're not going
to want to utilize your gifts like, yeah, and so you'll see people come in and they'll
come in with a rush, like they'll come in with a flood, like they've got all of these
gifts they want to offer and they're new.
They're new to the church, but they want to be recognized right away because of who they
are and what they do.
And you know what, when I finally grew up, I recognize, you know, you go to church to
worship the Lord.
You go to church to be a blessing to the Lord and be a blessing to where you go.
It's not about your can you serve because service is good.
Get me wrong.
You know you need to serve, but you don't need to be noticed because of what you're
doing.
And I, and that is a clear director of a religious spirit.
Can you put me in control of a ministry?
Can I be in leadership?
You know, that kind of thing where it comes in and a lot of times
it could be private, it could be true, but a lot of times it is by them.
Yeah, that works thing.
Yep.
Minutes back.
That works thing part of it.
So they get offended and they leave because there isn't a ministry for them to do.
You'll see that.
So religious
spirit.
Exactly.
I'm striving for position and I've.
I've touched on it already, but I think it bears repeating and I think I want to make
it hopefully make this as clear as I can.
There's people can have what I would call an unhealthy focus on the word of God.
God is the Bible is the word.
It is the truth, but it was somebody I don't know who coined this originally, but it's
awesome.
Our, our goal should be to know the Lord of the book rather than the more so than the
bulk of the Lord.
Knowing the book of the Lord is a way God speaks to us, reveal stuff to us, but people
don't get so bogged down in Bible study and just knowing the word.
Do we need to know the word?
Yes.
You know, it talks about the usefulness of scripture is God breathed using for teaching,
correcting and training in righteousness.
All of course, of course, but we can easily get focused because if, if, if, if, if the,
if the, if the word becomes the standard now, then we start looking and we take scriptures
and and judge other people and the world against those.
Well, they're not doing this, they're not living up to and it's like.
And so that, that's a religious.
One of my girlfriends, you know, they're in the Hebrew roots, they call it a Torah terrorist,
where they use the Bible to condemn people and it's a spirit of legalism.
That's very clearly part of that spirit of religion.
Yeah, it's, it's tied in, tied in with that religious thing.
It's works.
It's about externals.
It's about doing so.
Please, please, don't call, don't email.
Say that I'm against the reading the Bible or the Bible's man.
I was like, no, the keywords, I'm healthy and it is in the, you know, you talking about
Bible study me.
God's not up there.
I'm sure keeping score about how much Bible we read and whether we read two chapters,
10 chapters, your 10, 10, 10 minutes.
It's not about that.
It's about intimacy.
It's about relationship and we, you know, we want to, we want to be in the position
of wanting to read the word and getting to that point.
And so, um, that comes, I believe through revelation primarily and, and once again,
they keep coming back to these tours.
I love of God, unconditional love.
He loves us.
He's for us, not against us and the grace, God's empowering presence in us to do and
be all of these calls us to do and we don't have that.
And if we don't know how to get there, we can't receive that in growing measure.
Then then we start to revert like the world's way to talk to performance.
How well are we performing?
How well are we doing?
Because that's the yardstick in the world.
Many, it's the yard stick and sports due when it's the yardstick in business and it's different.
It's not the same yardstick in the Bible.
And so I'm just can come easy to, to doing that if we do it, like you say it when it's
a catch 22, if we're doing well, we can give ourselves an a, we start stumbling and fumbling
and we're not doing well enough.
And then God's mad at us and elderly people, you know, stay out of church and they're all.
And I had good enough whether I need to get myself in better shape before I go back to
the church and that that's a religious or working with him or improper teaching and
poor and poor revelation.
And so once again, it's just, um, you know, the word of God is vital.
It's truth, but Jesus is the word.
He's the living word.
It's about that relationship.
And so people can have that wrong.
And sometimes you will see, I believe many times people who have operating a lot of rigor,
a religious spirit at work in their life, they're just, they're doing the works many
times and they might even be in church.
So recognize the importance of doing the words being true.
But many times the, you know, where's the piece?
Where's the content?
Where's the fruit?
And the attempts are just angry or easily angered by stuff that that's what's happening
in church.
I mean, anger is an emotion, but it's, it's so easy to get critical of all things that
are happening or not happening in the church, right?
Because many times it came in through the door with a mindset of what the pastor and
the leadership needs to be doing or not be doing or shouldn't be doing.
And, and um, they just, uh, you know, and they might be there for awhile but something
happens or they're offended or they get upset with something and they leave.
They walk out and we've seen that many times they're, they tend to be church hoppers because
there's, you said there's no perfect, no perfect church.
If it was pretty perfect, I don't know.
Well, there you go.
When I'm in a good church too, and I, but I think it is a good church because we teach
people hard about the grace and the grace and the love and if you're under environment
where it's, it's about doing rather than being its.
I think it's easy to, um, to, to, to, to, to, to fall, to get under that.
And so, um, you know, that's a, that that's important.
So these are things that the evidences are indicators, um, that, um, that these things
were at work right in a person's life.
And so, um, you know, well, the fruit, if you're single, do I have a spirit, religious
spirit or you know, the things to some.
We've raised some questions I think you should be asking yourself how this whole thing about
being critical judging others.
My experience is that a lot of church people hop churches, man, they get offended that
just isn't doing this.
They don't teach on this.
Um, yeah.
You know, okay.
You know, they go from church to church to church.
That's an indicator right there.
A lot of times they're suspicious to about a new move of God.
You know, they're highly critical of it.
So you see something happening in church where the Holy Spirit is manifesting or the fruit
is flowing, but it doesn't fit their little parameter of like the how, the, how the scripts
should run.
Then you'll know that that's the, that's the spirit of religion too, because it wants to
judge the new.
It only wants to stay with the old,
right?
Yeah.
You look through the history of the church.
I mean, the new moves of quote new gun was a god all through the ages have always, always,
always been opposed by the religious leadership.
It'll God, God doesn't do that.
That's not how God, how God moves.
Right.
Right.
So, yeah, that's, that's an indicator as well.
So, um, you know, we've seen it in some of these people that have come in or some of
our clients that have come in, right?
Yeah, yeah.
In fact, I just prayed for one recently that grew up in a very religious home and, and
grew up with a lot of guilt that was put on her, just a lot of guilt that she wasn't good
enough and she didn't measure up and I think, you know, part of that, that family wanted
her to be, um, a non or something like that, you know, so there was a lot of harshness,
um, when she chose not to do that, but, but also, um, you know, I always talk about things
like the Sanhedrin spirits, those are the ones that crucified Jesus Christ because,
you know, he was when he was at new wine and they weren't going to have any part of it.
Um, and they're the ones that, that's the group that put Jesus on the cross.
And so you'll see a lot of that punishing that comes into a religious home, like they're
punishing you.
There's a punishment.
And then in this particular person that I prayed for, she took on the punishing herself.
So she became a self punisher.
Um, she punished herself because she wasn't good enough.
She didn't feel like she measured up and she had to stay up, like in pray all night long
for her children.
Um, she had to, she had to be the Holy Spirit glue.
Uh, she didn't allow God really, she didn't recognize that, but she had to be the one
doing it all.
So she became almost like a religious murder where she was laying down her life, um, and
suffering.
And when we, when I prayed for her, she actually, she had prayed that she would suffer for the
gospel of Christ, which totally was misled, but we had to break that curse of suffering
for Jesus, that she spoke over herself because she made, she made her her life just an absolute
chore, um, in every way and then just felt like she never measured up.
And the guilt and the fear and the condemnation was all part of it.
So when I prayed for her, I had to pray for us punishing spirit of religion, which is
really that, that Sanhedrin spirit and call that out and cancel the suffering and just
let her.
I'm operate under the freedom and the grace of God that like we've talked about, so that
was, that was I think one of the, one of the ones that I saw most predominantly be freed
from from a religious spirit, but you know, so many come in and when you hit on that and
you hit on worthlessness and comparison and and all of those other things by tell you
what, that one always seems to manifest because of that legalism and it wants to steal your
identity here.
Really does
put so many doubts in your mind, in your salvation.
I think I've told this story before on these podcasts, but I had a gentleman in hearing
his wife, right, but I believe it comes down from the northeast and you've been raised
in an orthodox environment and he believed in Jesus has already gone to church his whole
life and asked him about if he was saying where he'd go to heaven and you know, he didn't
really know what I mean.
Buses, even honestly, I don't know.
You know, I've been at church either.
I don't really know cars, so when we, before we did deliver in some always like to lead
people and kind of a prayer of forgiveness, of sin and salvation as needed, and we came
to that part work trying to get him to repeat after me that you know that Jesus paid the
price for our sins and Jesus is the Lord of my life.
Literally, he started.
He couldn't speak.
He literally could not talk.
The devils were tormenting him.
He could not get the words out.
Wow.
That Jesus is the Lord of my life.
So we had borrowed them up in his eyes to give them to the point where he could get
that declaration out.
Then I believe it was a religious spirit that was.
There was cars.
Now he, he, he was, you know, I believe, you know, he was saying it wasn't prayer of salvation,
I believe was, you know, he, he, if he had something that happened to me, he'd be in
heaven.
He believed and she sent, received, but that make him the lord of his life.
And he understood, still bound up in the church stuff and doing and doing it, and so he had
doubts and it's like, well, that's what a yoke to bear the yoke to bear.
And that, that sort of tours, that religious spirit behind that.
Because a lot of the tea she had trivia is good enough.
He was passing the grade on any given day.
So we see that in people and it's just one of the spirits that we call out in terms of,
of deliverance because it can be a huge hindrance to hold us back, hold a person back from their
walk with God.
So any final thoughts that you want to have or want to share, rather phillis about a religious
spirit with the.
I think we just have to check ourselves, you know, always be, you know, checking that you're
not walking in any worthlessness, condemnation, self judgment, self critical, all of that
stuff is going to lend itself to keeping you away out of the intimacy of Jesus Christ.
And so, you know, if you had like religious heavy religion in your background, um, you
know, a lot of us were raised in denominationalism.
Nothing wrong with that, but I mean, if your parents beat you over the head with the Bible
and you have a lot of that in your childhood that brought in that religious guilt, then
boy, I tell you what, this is something that you want to consider going through deliverance.
And I come back to the church thing.
I mean, I just say, look at, you need to be in a good spirit filled Bible believing word
preaching church that preaches the whole world at word of um, and, and, and the whole, the
Gospel.
Good News.
And, and many people have sensitive, they don't, if they've been under that kind of
teaching where it's about works in its religious as you need to get some good teachers.
I turn them towards Andrew Womack was a teacher and I turned for Joseph Prince, excellent
teacher, grace teachings.
People need to learn about the grace of God.
And so he's just get his books.
Just read about the grace of God.
Get that revelation somewhere somehow.
Um, and you know, once again, if your inner quarter church that focuses on the religious
side of things, uh, not, doesn't match, not a denominational things, it's just, you know,
it can be alive churches that are denominational or can be dead.
Churches that are nondenominational.
It's not a label thing, it's just that you know where the whole, the spirit of God and
the power of God is at work and get that revelation of God's goodness and grace so we know the
religious spirits are all going to manifest now because they're not going to probably
like the people that you recommended that you might want to check it.
It might be a religious spirit that you can bring up any, any number of things.
Well, I don't, you know, it's like let's just agree to disagree on some things, you know,
let's rally around the things that we can agree on and not let the unity not division
divide us.
So exactly that, that can happen.
So we hope you've enjoyed it.
We've gone a little long today, but I'm, I, it was a good topic for you, but religious
spirit, if you've got it, you think you haven't gotten like Phyllis Sediment, get, get that
dealt with.
Get.
If you need deliverance, get deliverance.
If you need counseling, if you need things, get that spirit dealt with.
If you're in a church environment where you think there's a strong spirit of religion
at work or religious thing, Gosh, you need to find a new church home.
I'm just going to say it.
You know, don't be sitting there and think you're going to change and do the things.
If you're not in leadership, you, you're not going to be able to do that.
The man or woman of God at the top of the heap, the pastor of the shepherds need to
get that revelation.
And so, um, be careful because a lot of times with that religious spirit, many times we've
seen you'll have a spirit of bell or spirit of control at work in that church too could
be happening.
So, um, once again run, don't walk to the nearest exit.
If you're, if you're really sense that in your church and then make sure you leave well
and pray for them so, but if it's in you, if it's something in your life and as a hindrance
and you can't get past that, then yes, get counseling, get deliverance.
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