We're back and ready for our next case.
We'll welcome it with this passage from Matthew 21:13.
"'It is written' he said to them,
'My house will be called a house of prayer,
but you are making it a den of robbers.'"
Bring out the litigants.
It's thanks to God and me he's got that money.
This woman doesn't care about my suffering.
And to top it off, she wants my money.
-Hello and welcome. -Hello.
Sara, you're suing Rolando.
Who is he, why are you suing him,
and what do you demand to settle this case?
Good afternoon, ma'am.
I'm suing Mr. Rolando for $15,000.
Why?
Because Mr. Rolando owes me $5,000.
We held a lot of activities at church
and collected many for the people in Haiti...
Wait. First explain who you are.
Me?
Yes, you're talking about you and your church group.
-I'm the pastor. -Okay, so you lead a church.
Yes.
Great, and who's he?
Rolando, the missionary.
Oh, he's a missionary?
Yes.
So you were collecting money.
Yes, we collected Friday through Sunday
and planned some activitt was,
so I left all the money we'd collected, $5,000,
in the hands of Rolando.
What was the purpose of the money?
We were collecting for the people of Haiti
as well as for the undocumented.
We do it every once in a while to help these people.
-Charity to help the community. -We do it all the time.
I like to help others,
and so he knew that money was for that.
But Mr. Rolando never showed up on Saturday.
I had my reasons.
Whatever, he didn't show up.
So I asked about him when I got there
and was told he was in the hospital
after getting stabbed the night before.
That's not my fault.
I'm just asking for my money.
That's all you care about.
No, it's the church's money.
But Sara.
Yes?
He wasn't there because he was stabbed.
That's not my problem.
The problem is he owes me that $5,000, plus his 10% tithe.
-I don't owe anybody anything. -Yes you do.ithe 10%..
Let me see this.
Con artist.
There's compassion enough to raise money for some,
yet she doesn't have compassion with the missionary...
That's not my fault, ma'am. I need my money back.
Wait.
$10,000 is 10% of $100,000.
What $100,000 is she talking about?
Something she'll never see.
Explain what she's talking about.
You will give it to me. You have to.
Can you explain what she's talking about?
Good afternoon.
So this is your lawsuit?
Yes.
That he give you the $5,000 plus $10,000.
The $5,000 he stole plus the 10% tithe.
She alleges you stole it.
You'll get to respond.
Is that all?
Okay.
-And you're the pastor. -Yes.
-Return to your podium. -Thank you.
You're a fraud is what you are.
How did you meet this man?in.
He was homeless, and I brought him to my church.
The church wanted people of color in addition to whites.
-Racist! -So I picked him.
He got to eat and bathe...
It wasn't to help him, people.
It's because the parish was looking for people of color.
She used me.
I didn't use you. You benefitted off the church.
Talk about help!
Whenever I was given something, I had to sign a paper.
If I drank a glass of water, I had to sign something.
So he'd talk with everyone there, and things were fine.
But he knows I gave him every possible benefit I could.
Now he won't pay that money.
Why'd you need people of color in your church?
I'm not racist. I've got nothing against blacks.
No, you're the one who told me...
I wanted people of color in my church as well as whites.
More money.
More money for what?
She wanted more members...
More diversity.
Right.
That's this con artist's excuse.
Okay. Great.
Anything else?hM
Who are you?
I've been a missionary for about 15 years.
What do you mean by missionary?
I take donations to different parts of the world.
You're the conman.
I collect things, clothing and food,
and distribute them in Haiti, Africa,
or wherever it is I'm sent.
Now tell me what happened the day
you were supposed to show up with the $5,000 you'd collected.
That was an activity in which we collected funds
She was responsible for the money,
and she had to leave early
so she gave me the money to deposit.
-Money you never returned. -Let me finish.
It was 6PM, and the bank was closed when I got there.
We had to return to the park the next day
to continue the activity,
and while I sat there and waited,
a crazy homeless guy showed up
and plunged a knife into my neck.
Come here so I can see.
Let me see the scar.
That's what he says, but they're probably in cahoots.
Here?
So what happened?
I lost so much blood I lost consciousness.
When I came to, I'd been in the hospital seven days.
I was robbed of everything.
The guy who stabbed you stole the money.
And other things that'd been donated.
Is there any evidence of this?
May we see?
LIFE'S CHALLENGES
ILLNESS
I'm really sorry, but I need my money.
Have some compassion.
Nope, don't care.
UNCONSCIOUS
PRONOUNCED DEAD
You were pronounced dead?
Yes.
KNIFE WOUND
SOMETHING HAPPENED
SOMETHING CHANGED
Go back.
You can cry all you want, but I need my money.
Return to your podium.
Let's take a short break.
Well, first, what happened?
How'd you recover and how did this affect you?
It's been really sad and painful. my famil.
I've got not family here. They're all in Cuba.
After my third day in the hospital,
they got the phone number to my family in Cuba.
When my father was given the news,
he had a heart attack.
This has been really painful for me.
This woman doesn't understand that I'm no thief.
Did your father survive his heart attack?
No.
He didn't?
No.
-So he died. -Yes.
It was very hard.
Getting up every day is difficult.
Everything this woman says is a lie.
It's not.
She's a liar who's swindling others.
When I got to her church, she had only 20 members.
She used me to grow her church
so she could keep scamming them.
She might look pious...
He thinks he's God because he came back to life.
Do you have a church?
I've got my own church now.
You do?
Of course!
-He won a settlement. -She never saw that coming.
Why is she asking for a $10,000 tithe?
She wants 10% of the $100,000 the park gave me.
So they compensated you for what happened.
Of course.
Do you have a witness?
No wonder people are losing their faith.
You're a liar.
No wonder people areGive me my money.th.
Cry all you want, but I want my money.
Good afternoon. Your name?
Carmen.
You're here to testify...
In favor of Pastor Sara.
I'm the church treasurer...
I'm responsible such as the light or phone bill
because we don't have any parishioners
after he started his own church and took ours.
I didn't take anyone. They came to me.
You took them all on the basis of lies
because you think you're Christ come back from the dead!
He's not trustworthy because he's black.
So he can't be trusted because he's black.
I've always said that's irrelevant.
I need to take a break before I have a heart attack.
I'm not racist.
How can people talk such nonsense on TV?
We'll take a break and when we return,
Enough.
Your name, sir?
Augusto.
Good afternoon.
I'm here to support this man.
He's also my friend, but he's more than that.
I'll explain.
You saw the evidence. He was practically dead.
I consider him a messiah sent by God.
He was dead, and it's not just me saying it.
It was on the news.
-He was sent by God. -He's just fooled you too.
Sir, please.
Don't tell me he's a messiah.
He was the victim of a horrible crime
and survived thanks to God, his constitution and doctors.
Now, he's a pastor and a good person,
but don't elevate him to something he isn't
because we do this too often!
We elevate them to unreal levels!
We're so starved for faith and hope
that we make everyone a messiah.
Crazy!
Bring out our experts, please.
Mr. Angel Leal and Professor Daniel Alvarez.hM
Were you a member of their church before?
Yes, he took him!
For a while, b
They're thieves is what they are.
Mr. Leal, I have a very specific question.
These tithing commitments that people sign in church...hM
-Yes. -...are they legal contracts?
If there's an offer, acceptance,
and binding payment, or rather, consideration.
What is the church offering in exchange for the donation?
So in this instance it isn't.
If she goes to court and tries to sue him
for not fulfilling this contract
in which he agrees to give 10% of his earnings,
she can't win the case.
If there is no consideration, no exchange of values,
the contract cannot be enforced.
Do any churches offer consideration?
Some courts have interpreted the tax exemption for donations
as the consideration needed to be considered a valid contract.
That's what it's come to.
They want a contract to have certain elements.
That it be in writing and that there be consideration,
i.e., exchange of values.
Perfect. This contract has none of that.
We're losing our faith,
many times because of situations such as this.
I see people opening churches because it's big business,
not because of their faith or a calling.
You said it. It's good business.
I've heard testimonies from people who've left their church
and have said that the pastor closed the church doors,
saying, "God told me no one can leave today
until we receive $50,000."
Others say, the gospel is prosperity,
which is very popular in the Hispanic world.
The more money I get, the more God will give you.
So those people give, and forget tithing.
They give more.
Some sell their homes and give away all their properties
to that pastor.
They've deified these people,
and these people feel like gods.
They're put on a pedestal, given money,
and don't let go of the money.
They'll just get more hooked and ask for more money.
Why do people...?
Shut up!
Stop interrupting before I fine you 10%.
Yes, for being disrespectful and in contempt of court.
You haven't proven any lie.
He stole that $5,000!
All you've proven is you're utterly shameless.
-I am not. He is! -You are!
My ruling.
I rule against you.
Everyone open your eyes.
If you come across this heretic,
open your eyes and don't let yourselves be lied to.
One's relationship with God is personal.
It's your soul and His.
Don't let yourselves be lied to by bad people
because we end up on the losing end.
It's final. Case closed!
Get out!
Be kind, be careful, educate yourselves,
give respect to get respect, and may God help us.
See you next time. Thanks.
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