Well yes, there are fewer people.
After all, young people avoid dangerous or "dirty" jobs.
You can't say that this is exactly why,
but it's a job that was mechanized.
In the past, one craftsman
would carve a squared timber
with a plane.
How many pieces? Probably less than 20.
Now with the mechanization, one/(I?) alone can make 150 pieces.
So because it has all been mechanized,
it's not necessary to be numerous anymore,
it became much easier.
So, because mechanized, the craftsmen
became fewer.
???? That's why many
So we here, in the end, have everything mechanized as well,
and everyone (every workshop?) is doing it in their way,
but we, about 36 people, were all kind of lined up on the workbenches
in the factory - this is how we used to carve all day long.
But still, as one person couldn't
do more than 20 pieces a day,
even with 30 people,
we couldn't get that much done.
That's how it used to be.
This mechanization came about with
my generation, and with it
less craftsmen are needed.
そういう面で、現代の名工とか、そういう賞をいただけたんじゃないかなと思うんですよね。 Examining like this, that's mybe why we received the award of "contemporary craftsmen".
Well, such a small company,
or a place where we are succeeding a tradition,
we wish to have a bit of support from
the administration, right?
And that also concerns the salary (financial support?),
or something like that.
It takes 3 to 5 years until
someone becomes an artisan,
and I have to pay a salary,
but actually don't get anything that can be used.
But in one way or another,
that's how one becomes an artisan, fabricating for the company.
And this is also how in return it becomes a revenue for the company.
But for 5 years, we get nothing and that's in the end like giving away money, while teaching.
Exactly how it was in the old time.
But like this, there's no continuation for the company.
I'd really like to get plenty of young people,
paying them a good salary.
But that'd be immediate bankruptcy
if we'd do something like that.
So, we have no choice but to get the work done with the people we have around.
Ah, yeah, but they're still students. (He's still a student? one?)
But even if he (they) would take over - what would happen?
Within that flow.
And without any support of the administration.
自分たちで Fending for themselves.
Finding employees and material.
But saying this, for Japanese Kendo, you really need those Bokken.
After all, it has to be produced.
Among these employees, if one gets injured,
only by that, the production gets interrupted.
It is really hard, thinking about the future.
That's why we're doing our very best.
But the future is the future,
and it'll be my son thinking about it.
Well, it's not as if the quantity was high enough
to have something to choose from.
There's nothing we can do but to just
lay in stock and from there, use the pieces we have
according to our products.
We can no longer sort out the small pieces for example,
but just have to use it for Shoto or other short products.
There are no logs 丸太の量 left anymore.
Before, we would choose only straight wood
older than 50 years etc.
Or if the center was black we wouldn't take it.
But in the end, after complaining a lot,
I had no choice but to buy it.
The amount of logs we get are not
sufficient anymore.
That's the situation now, already.
Well, when cutting, yes,
but already when the
logs are cut into planks.
Close to the logs core, you get a straight grain pattern,
but towards the sides you get the cross grain pattern. 板目になってくる
That's because the annual rings of the tree are like that.
どうしても、まさ目と板目は、こう、一枚ともまさ目という板にはならないんですよね。 So that's why you always have both, the straight grain and cross grain
in one plank, because you cut the logs into planks.
Well, if you have like a cedar, a log of cedar wood of 80 to 100 years
cut into squared balks, you only get about 2 to 3 with such straight grain. 四方柾
So concerning the Bokken, it became really difficult to make them
with such nice straight grain.
I cannot waste any timber.
I have to make the best out of the entire
material.
So that's why
、あの、横の板目が来れば、横の方に曲がるし。やっぱり上の、峰の方に板目が来れば、やっぱ上の方に反るし。 So when we us the cross grained timber, the wood (bokken?) will warp sidewards or if that pattern runs over the Mine, the spine of the Bokken, it will warp upwards.
It's because wood is a living material. It warps as it pleases. But it's also a question of how you store it.
If it is properly placed straight on the floor and in the shade there's no big problem,
it will warp. And that's everybody's own responsibility.
Yes, (orders for) Jo have been increasing.
but on the other hand, the material rarer,
so it gets more and more difficult.
I really want to cut the timber 綺麗なまさの通った with nice straight grain.
But it's not possible to it in a sustainable way. 全部を活かし使わないといけないから
And I feel really sorry for that.
But I also have to send something out,
and in the end, I have no choice.
Well, everyone is busy with their own stuff. (Everyone/they are doing as much as they can)
But when it comes to people, well.
Although was told many things already,
until now, there was nobody
who sincerely took action to
make things move. Well, it's tough.
And those people, they have to ask their superior
and this is where it doesn't go further.
Well, compared to oak,
camellia is weaker.
Since there's no more Hon Biwa (true loquat)
we use the camellia to replace (substitute) it.
Its brilliance is similar, though its weight is a bit lighter.
The shiny color it really like it. You can't tell.
木刀ちゅうのは、もう枇杷という昔からの、あの、有名な本枇杷ですから。 In the past, there were orders for famous Hon Biwa all the time.
But there's almost no Hon Biwa left.
When some time ago...
From 3 logs, how many swords could I make again?
Now also, I just brought another 3 that are damaged.
So from the 3 logs, I could make only 6 (bokken?) or so.
From the core, without deficiency.
That's how it has become.
So from those 3 logs of Biwa (Hon Biwa)
that were over 100 years old, I could only make 6 (bokken?)
Wondering how long it was stocked (going through the drying process) 何年くらい寝てるかなあ
Almost 10 years or so. Yeah, that's timber that was stocked for close to 10 years.
Well...
For Aikido.. It has to be white oak. 白樫しかない
When it comes to camellia,
there are some deficiencies,
talking about the quality of the timber.
It's a bit like cork.
And really, the deficiencies are quite frequent.
If you let it dry too much, it gets very light, the camellia.
To use as Bokken.
But for decoration purpose, as gift or such,
or to do some Kata from time to time,
then I'd recommend it.
But if you really want to practice with full contact,
I wouldn't recommend camellia.
Its surface, the brilliance is really beautiful
and the wood grain, too.
すき好きですよね
Those who like nice timber, they often buy camellia.
Yeah, especially when you opt for an oil polish finish
instead of varnish.
Then, the camellia becomes really pretty.
There is. There still is, but
that's the 営林署の山 the mountain of the forestry district.
国の山です That's a state-owned mountain.
Almost all of it. That Kirishima and the mountain itself
belong Japan. But there's plenty.
And that's why,
we, all of us working in this field, like Matsuzaki etc.
we went to see the forest service field office together
to file a petition.
We asked for allowance to use the red oak (ichikashi)
in the vicinity of Kirishima.
But they answered "Ah, we're sorry, but
that's within the preservation district, there can't be any
timber cut down."
もうあるから、切ってもいいですかね So we replied: "But there's plenty, it should be fine to clear a bit. It'll just get in the way anyways."
"No, no, you can't" they said.
But yes, there is plenty.
It would be great if we could use that.
But.. Well, if the trees get too big
the wood quality gets bad.
So now, those trees are perfect for use.
And there's plenty in Kirishima.
If you go there, please bring a chain saw along
and bring me some logs.
When I wander around, I can find some.
There are a few big Biwa growing in some people's gardens.
I immediately stop by to negotiate with them,
to cut those trees.
That is how I got all the Biwa collected I have.
The Biwa is not available anymore on
our wood markets.
So if we don't find it and cut it ourselves..
And that's why not all of us still offer it.
Hmm.. How many Biwa Bokken do we send out a month?
About 5 to 6 I'd say.
If we have to make too many, I have to spend another day
to go search for Biwa.
So it's balance is just fine now.
In the course of a year, I have to find about 10,
12, 13 trees, wandering around.
Sometimes, the people cutting timber in the mountains,
they know about us and give us a call.
"We just cut Hon Biwa, do you want it?"
"Yes, please!" and then they even bring it.
But only the core.
When it comes to Hon Biwa,
木ちゅう it has branches already at the bottom of the trunk.
And they cause these knotholes that can be cut out.
For a Bokken, we need 1 m of straight wood.
If from 1.10 m a branch grows, we can use 1.10 m
But if at the very bottom of the tree branches are growing,
no matter how big the tree itself is,
we couldn't make Bokken from it.
Because those knotholes are cut out.
It seems that there's plenty of Hon Biwa,
but there are no straight ones.
That's the difficulty, finding those.
Yeah, that's why, I'm growing them, over there!
There are many. And we're lucky that the Hon Biwa at the corner of our house,
makes many seeds.
So we plant them in different places.
It's not going to be in time for me though.
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