- [Interviewer] What were some of the messages that
kind of prompted you and the band
to really want to revisit this album?
Like, what were fans saying about the album
in terms of their relationship to it?
- I think the biggest thing that we kept seeing
on all the social media sites was
everyone wanted us to do a 15-year anniversary tour,
that was the biggest thing.
There was a lot of questions,
"Why aren't you going on tour for this?"
And we weren't on the road at the time
so I was like, "Yeah, why aren't we?"
We didn't know it was the 15th anniversary, really.
So once we sort of found that out, we decided,
"Well, we'll just go do a short run."
We were supposed to be in the studio right now,
you know, working on new music.
So we just kept it just short and quick.
[Interviewer] I think you celebrated the
ten-year anniversary of it as well, of the band.
Is there anything, like, notably different in terms of
those five years in terms of playing the material?
Like, that you notice when you're playing it on stage
or maybe when you're practicing to go on tour?
- Yeah, well, I just think this time around,
we're a much different band.
We're a five-piece band now and we just play a different way
and it just feels like a totally different band.
So putting this show together was completely different
than the one for the ten-year anniversary.
It was totally different.
- [Interviewer] In terms of prepping to take
the songs back out on the road,
what were some of the surprises you found in
maybe, like, rehearsing for when you
actually got back to playing on stage?
- I guess it wasn't necessarily surprises,
but it was a reminder of how short some of
these songs are and how quick they are.
The whole album is only about 30 minutes
so to turn it into a whole show,
which is like an hour and something,
we weren't sure how long it was gonna be,
but to turn a 30-minute record into a
full night of a show was kind of like,
"Okay, this gonna be a little bit different,
"a little bit more difficult than we thought."
- [Interviewer] And then is that why
you'd see different thematic elements,
like playing all of the really short, fast punk songs--
- They sort of led to that song, yeah.
It was, like, sort of the history of
how we got to that song.
Yeah, we just thought of doing some ideas like that
and a little bit of description
or story-telling about some of the songs
and just extending some of the break-downs
and doing different things with some of the songs.
- [Interviewer] Because when your band is on stage,
you specifically are kind of this master of ceremonies,
and especially for that kind of tour, as you said,
you were talking a little bit about the song-writing,
a little bit of how the songs came together,
and it seemed like you really relished that
and it's kind of cool to go out and share this experience.
What can you see when you're up on stage
and you're talking about this stuff?
Maybe you're illuminating fans about
stuff they don't really know about,
like how certain songs came together.
If you were playing, like, a song that maybe
Sum 41's not really played that much live,
what can you really see in terms of, like,
the fans reacting to that when you're up on stage?
- I think when you play a song that
doesn't normally get played,
you can see the excitement in peoples' faces
because we're probably not gonna go
play it again after this tour.
So they know that this is, like, kind of
one of the only times they're ever gonna see it.
A lot of the super fans, that's their favorite song,
the song that you never play.
You can see it in peoples' faces that they're excited
that their favorite song that we would never play
is being played right now and probably never again.
- [Interviewer] I know this is a pretty brief run,
it's only about a month or so of shows,
but in the first couple shows versus
maybe where you are now,
which is about a little more than halfway through the tour,
what do you think some of the differences are
there in terms of maybe performances that are,
like, anything on stage?
- We're sort of at that stage now,
we're two weeks into the tour and, you know,
compared to the first two or three shows,
we're much tighter now.
Now, I can be on stage and start thinking
about other things and I can still perform the song,
whereas the first couple shows,
you're only thinking about the next lyric coming up
and the next part you're supposed to play
because you're not quite sure and you might forget,
whereas now I can write a grocery list
while I'm on stage if I had to.
- [Interviewer] So is that, like, one of the examples
of things that you're doing when you're on the stage?
- Sometimes I do, yeah.
- [Interviewer] And is there any thought
given to, like, new music?
You mentioned that you were supposed to be in the studio,
and you also said that at the show too.
You were like, you know,
"We have these plans to do this stuff--"
- Yeah, this whole year is supposed to be
just working on new music for, you know,
something coming out in 2019 and we're gonna
do a full tour and play all the songs next year.
And so, yeah, we're just sort of in the
writing and demoing phase right now.
- [Interviewer] Can you do much writing
when you're on the road?
- It's difficult but I do.
I do a lot of writing on the road.
Sometimes, like I was saying, where your mind
can go somewhere else on stage,
sometimes I can be working on songs in my head
because I can picture a song that I'm already working on
and knowing that that riff is really cool,
but maybe needs to speed up to this tempo
that we're playing right now.
You know, things like that I can kind of work out on stage.
- [Interviewer] I also wanted to ask
I thought it would be kind of fitting,
so I went and found an old MTV News interview from 2002,
like around when the album came out,
and you were talking about Still Waiting
and you were saying, "It's no secret that the world
"doesn't get along and there's all this hatred,
"it's everything to do with how this world functions,"
and I thought of this because you also kind of,
at the show the other night,
were talking about how, you know, you were like,
"We're gonna play this one,
"this one's unfortunately still relevant."
I mean, how do you feel that the message in that
has kind of still evergreen at this point?
- Because I think it will also be.
I think, you know, history repeats itself.
It's like the things that we're upset and worried about
and seem like is the end of the world,
the situations change but the feeling
always stays the same, it seems.
Like, it felt like the world was gonna
come to an end back then, you know?
And it still feels the same.
It's just a different person in charge, you know?
Different people, but it feels the same.
I think it'll always feel the same.
- [Interviewer] You also had a quote about,
you were kind of illuminating some of the thoughts
behind the writing of some of the songs,
and I think for Hell Song you were showing
a story about a friend who was going through--
You said in your friend group it was one of the major
shake-ups in terms of her health and all that stuff.
What is that feeling to kind of revisit this and to know,
I guess, kind of the head space you were in
and the people in your life who may be
reflected in some of these songs?
Like, to look at that maybe 15 years out,
what is that like?
- It's hard for me to think about what songs are about.
Like, I never really think about that once they're written.
I think about it more when I'm writing it
and then once it's written and recorded
I sort of forget about where I was at
or what I was thinking and who I was writing it about.
They just become the songs and they just sort of
become different to me, I guess.
- [Interviewer] I'm sure, like, as an artist,
you also realize that you give them over
to the fans at a certain point as well.
- Well, yeah, so I was gonna say,
they don't really feel like mine anymore.
Once music comes out, I just don't feel like--
I always say my favorite time of making records
is before it's all come out when it's
fully completed and I have the Mix Mastered version
and it's still just mine and no one's
heard it really yet, you know?
People don't love a certain song or hate a certain song.
I haven't heard what people think.
There's no opinions about anything
because it's my own opinion.
So once it comes out, it's kind of not mine anymore.
- [Interviewer] Yeah, you feel closest to
the material in that space--
- In that time, when it's finished
and I have nothing to do anymore
and I can just listen to it as a piece,
that's my favorite part of making a record.
- [Interviewer] I was also gonna ask,
you were talking about fans writing in, saying,
"Do an anniversary tour, do an anniversary,
"we want these shows,"
do people feel the same way about, like,
All Killer No Filler, for example?
- We get a lot of Chuck, which is gonna be next year,
but we're gonna have a new record out.
But yeah, there's All Killer, there's Chuck.
I'm not big on social media but, you know,
I don't know what maybe people say they want.
I've heard Underclass Hero,
but is it really everybody, I don't know.
Who knows.
- [Interviewer] Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Another thing I wanted to ask, too, about this album
is, like, what Sum 41 wanted the videos to be.
You always wanted a performance element in these videos,
like working with Mark Classfeld that time,
he worked with you guys pretty consistently
and then you revisited to do Fake My Own Death,
which was cool.
Is that this kind of, like, "Here's our performance first,
"but we're gonna wrap it in some kind of
"youthful, like, humor element."
- Well, I think it's just the personalities,
it's the sides of our band,
it's just who we are as people.
We're pretty serious about the music,
but we do have a sense of humor.
So we like both to kind of be reflected in the videos
because it just kind of happens naturally.
We've always felt like we're not really
that funny as people.
Like, we don't act in the videos and stuff like that,
but we wanna have some humor to it
so we'll put something that's funny.
We'll do what we do, which is just perform.
- [Interviewer] Do you have a favorite video from that era?
- Stowaway.
- [Interviewer] How come?
- For some reason, that video has been
all of our favorite video since we made it.
Probably because the day was really fun
and it was a simple shoot.
All those videos came together so quickly,
it was just like a couple ideas got shot around
and then it just happened.
And they were always really fun,
but I think that one for us was, like, our first video
that we had shot that was only a one-day shoot,
so it was really quick where the other ones felt like
they were really early 5 AM calls to as late as you can go
and they're two days and you had days of prep.
It just felt like a whole week and it was really tiring.
With Stowaway, we just showed up and did it
and we laughed and it was over.
- [Interviewer] You might have kind of
already answered this but I was just curious,
in talking about some of those faster, more punker songs
that you're kind of lining up in a row on this tour
and kind of talking about revisiting some of the songs,
like thematically, especially for NIC,
to kind of be able to preface that
and know that people are gonna be super into that
because that's obviously kind of a fan favorite.
I know that also never really left the
Sum 41 set list kind of for that same reason,
is that kind of the same atmosphere you wanted to capture?
- I don't know, we haven't played that in a while.
We did play it for a long time.
I mean, it's not a very good song, you know?
It's just not even really a song,
it's just kind of a bunch of shouting and really fast music,
but for some reason yeah, it kind of got some attention.
Probably because of the name.
And the song necessarily wasn't even about that.
The song was written, it just needed a name really,
and that's where that name came from.
It was just sort of the last second.
I remember that TV show was on a lot
and it was always on in the lounge at the studio
and it was so irritating and, you know,
that just sort of came out and we named it that.
- [Interviewer] You had kind of also mentioned
just sort of talking about the writing
and the recording of this next Sum 41 project
and next album and all that stuff.
Is there anything that you are particularly
stoked about right now in terms of that process
or is it too early to tell?
- I think there's some really good stuff there,
I'm excited.
Normally, I'm really nervous at this early of a stage
because it's just there's not enough material
to get excited about whereas what I have already,
the riffs and the things that are kind of coming together,
I actually am pretty excited about.
I'm in a safe zone to feel like,
"Alright, this is gonna be cool,"
whereas a lot of times I'm like,
"I don't have enough yet to really
"feel confident where it's going."
I'm excited about next year.
- [Interviewer] And you said at the show the other night too
that Fake My Own Death kind of came out of this
section of revisiting some earlier material.
Are you already doing that for this album at all?
- I don't think there's any more material
I could find if I wanted to.
I think at this point everything's been used.
That was the last probably little bit of an idea
and it was such a small little bit of an idea
that became a whole song.
Maybe there's some little bits left somewhere, I don't know.
- [Interviewer] Like a riff or something.
- It'd be hard to find, though.
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