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>> Psalms 50:15 says, "Call on me when you are in trouble, and
I will rescue you, and you will give me glory." Matthew 11:28,
"Are you tired? Are you worn out? Burned out in religion.
Come to me. Get away with me and you'll recover your life." James
5:15, "The prayer of faith will save the sick person, and the
Lord will restore him to health." God will rescue,
recover and restore.
>>BAILEY: Hi, welcome to the FAITH ALIVE SHOW. My name is
Bailey and I'll be your host on today's episode. We have an
incredible message from Pastor Brent Rudoski about discipline
and correction. I know it's not always the easiest topic for us
to listen to, but when we realize how much God talks about
it in His Word, we realize how important it is to Him. If it's
important to Him, it needs to be important to us. The better we
can give discipline and correction but even more so
receive discipline and correction, the better servants
we will be in the kingdom of God. Before we head into the
episode, let's make sure that we check our hearts and that
they're ready to receive all that God has to say for us in
today's episode. I'll see you at the end of the show.
>>BRENT RUDOSKI: But today He actually spoke two words to me
and they're not words we like. They're not things that we're
happy with. It's usually not the best or funniest sermon or
whatever that we wanna hear. But He spoke two words He said,
correction and discipline. Those are odd words, you know. But at
the same time, when you study the Bible you'll find out that
there's so many words and scriptures and, you know, ideals
along the that vein. That, you know, I began to study it and I
wanna help people because in this day and age there's so many
people who don't like to take correction and who aren't very
discipline, right? Now I found that people that don't take
correction will soon become people that have no discipline.
And if you have no discipline, then you will allow anything
into your life. You will do anything. You'll go anywhere.
You'll be anything. You'll have no restrictions. You'll have no
boundaries. You'll have a hard time struggling, you know, with
right and wrong and good versus evil. And so, you know, the
ability to be corrected is a powerful thing. Now, we don't
like to be corrected. We don't like to be disciplined. And a
lot of people actually believed that if you correct somebody or
discipline them, that it's some kind of hate or abuse or
something like that going on. But I need to tell you something
that it's none of that at all. And although there have been
abuses. Although mankind has done it improperly. Although
it's been overdone at times. You know, you can throw it out. You
don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, right? You clean
the baby. You throw the dirty water out but you keep the kid,
right? And that's what people, they don't know how to do. They
just throw everything all the time. You hear them in the news
all the time, you know. Something bad happens so the
whole society has to change and everything goes this side. And
I'm like, "Oh, no. That doesn't work that way either." You don't
throw out the truths of God's Word because somebody abused it.
Or maybe you've been abused or maybe you've been hurt by it or
maybe you had parents or authority figures or somewhere,
somebody someplace who didn't do it right and you got hurt by it.
And now you're like, "Well, I'm never gonna do that, you know."
You know, my parents, you know, corrected me improperly. They
discipline me improperly. So therefore, I'm not gonna
discipline my children anymore. How many even know that's a
mistake? And this is not about child training. I might touch on
a little bit but this is about human being training. Now, how
many of you know that as a child of God you are still in diapers?
Just look around the room picture everybody in diapers,
you know. Let that sink in, because the truth is you're
never gonna be anything but a child to God. If your 80 or 90
or live passed, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter how
old you are, you will always be a child of God. None of us will
ever get to the place where He look at us and thinks we're old.
How many of you know that? Even when your old and grey and
you're walking with a cane, in God's eyes you are a kidly. You
are not old. You are still a baby and that's you'll always
be. Let's go to Hebrews 12:5-6, and it says, "And you have
forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons." It
says, "My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord."
This is the New King James version. It says, do not despise
the chastening or the correction. Say, "Correction."
You might look at that word chastening and, "Oh, my God. I
don't wanna be chastened. I might wanna be chased but I
don't wanna be chastened." It said don't be when you're
corrected by the Lord. Say, "Corrected." "Nor be discouraged
when you're rebuked by Him." Again, corrected. Say,
"Corrected." For whom the Lord loves He, What? He corrects.
Say, "He corrects." For whom the Lord loves He, What? Corrects.
If you love somebody, what do you do? You correct. That's
right. And He scourges. I like that word. How many of you need
a good scourging? That means again disciplines. Discipline.
Say, "Disciplines." Every son whom He receives. Amen. So he's
quoting from Proverbs 3:11-12 and basically it just means
simply that God is a God who corrects and disciplines.
♪ [Instrumental Music] ♪
>> The book of Proverbs tells us that he who ignores correction
will lead others astray. And that will also lead us astray
from words of knowledge. Correction and discipline is not
a very fun thing. It's not a very comfortable thing. But yet
if we really understood its advantages and its benefits and
then we would truly grasp what this whole concept is all about.
In fact, you know, if we truly practice this whole concept, it
would start to mold character within us and would also start
develop maturity and responsibility inside of us. And
would even, put us even in a state of order and structure in
our lives. And so my challenge to you today is that learn how
to appropriate the whole concept of discipline and correction. I
want you to just take a few moments to imagine where you
would be if you always heard what you wanted to hear rather
than what you needed to hear. I want you to just let that sink
in for a few moments. You know, as a parent, as a father, you
know, I have a very tremendous responsibility towards my son to
initiate this thing called correction and discipline. And
it's not a very fun thing. It's not a very comfortable thing.
But yet I know that it must be done because I know that it's
gonna put my son on a path that he will never forget and I know
that it's gonna make him into a better person. And you know this
whole concept of correction and discipline. Again, you know,
it's gonna shape something inside of us and so I want you
to think about in context to the body of Christ. You know, the
thing that the most of us are probably a part of. You know, if
we truly loved one another. If we were truly committed towards
one another and then we would start to practice this thing. We
would start to confront one another because, you know,
there's something that we are gonna be fighting for when we
think about, when we think about correction and discipline. And
that is for the maturity of the other person and for one
another. You know the Bible says that, you know, that the Father,
that the Father disciplines whom He loves. And so as we start to
appropriate and grasp that reality, grasp that truth, and
start to practice it more and more within the body of Christ.
I believe that we would start to see a lot more better people.
And so, you know, this is my challenge to you today is, is
that learn to love correction and discipline, because we know
that it's going to develop something very wonderful inside
of us. And so again, you know, this is not gonna be an easy
task as we look more and more into it. But this is a truth
worth telling.
♪ [Segment Music] ♪
>>BRENT: How many of you grew up hating being corrected? How many
of you longed to get out of the house, because you were tired of
18 years of discipline and correction? Nobody puts their
hands up. Oh, but you're liars. How many of you wanted to get on
your own? That's how with a lot of kids. We wanna get out from
under our parent's feet or thumb or grasp or correction and
discipline. You just found it horrible. I remember sitting my
son down and Riley, too. I would lecture them for long periods of
time and they hated it. They endured it which they're
supposed to, but they hated it. The whole point is I did it on
purpose was to get them to hate being in that spot. So that they
would live their lives in corrective thinking and change
their attitude so they would not have to be in that spot. And
that's the whole point. The whole point of correction and
discipline is to teach us and to gain wisdom for the future so
that we don't end up in that spot. Ultimately it keeps people
out of hell. Naturally, it can keep them out of prison. How
many of you understand? And then God gives us these things so
that we can grow in it, you know. And it says in verse 11,
"No chastening, no correction seems to be joyful for the
present, but painful." How many even know what's painful? That's
why we don't like it. But just because it's painful doesn't
mean it's not good for us. But if we don't look at it properly,
we might think of it as it's wrong and it's not right. It
shouldn't happen to me and all that kind of stuff. And so I
wanna get out from underneath it. The truth is we need to keep
ourselves in it. The definition of discipline, listen to this
you guys, is the imposition. Say, "Imposition." I don't even
know what that means. The imposition of a painful
consequence or other advantage upon someone for their
disobedience as a part of the process of improving their
character and actions. How many of you think we need to improve
our character or our actions? I think we do, right? Proverbs
5:12, says, "And say, 'How I have hated instruction, and my
heart despised correction.'" How many of sometimes that happens,
right? We hate correction. We hate instruction. We hate being
told we're wrong. We hate being lectured, you know. We might
even hate preachers, you know. 'Cause how do we come across? We
come across as these guys who lecture us, tell us right from
wrong, and tell us what to do. You know, that kind of stuff.
But now how many know that's the truth of what we're supposed to
do? Did you know that? You go find in Timothy in different
places. This is actually our job, is to do this. We are
supposed to do all this kind of stuff. I'm not gonna get into
those verses. But people often misunderstand the process of
correction and discipline. You know, too many people they find
it a dreariness to be shunned. You know, something to be
avoided, you know. And lots of people wanted to just get out
from underneath that, you know, vanish. You know, just, you
know, banish all correction and discipline. But how many even
know if that happens to you, if you do that to your kids, you
are gonna cause them trouble and you're gonna be in trouble. You
know, and how many of music, how much music is out there that,
you know, enforces this kind of beliefs. And I don't know what
it is today, I don't listen to music today of that. But in my
day, when rock music was, was still is, I remember one group
called Pink Floyd. You guys remember them? I think it was
called "Another Brick in the Wall" or Breaking the Wall. I
don't know what it's called, The Wall. And their song if I'm not
correct said something like, "Hey, teachers! Leave those kids
alone." Right? You guys remember that? And so it's like, those
bad teachers, they're teaching those kids. Leave those kids
alone. For heaven sake let them figure out life all on their own
'cause that's the best way. Is that the best way? How about
Alice Cooper? What he used to sing? Schools out. Come on,
Shaun. You know this one. Forever. You guys remember that
one? He's a Christian, by the way. Alice Cooper, still sings
his music but he's a Christian. Not two set apart yet, but he's
getting there. But that was just a couple of song. There were
lots of song, a lot of that were just, you know, downright
rebellion against being corrected or discipline or being
under, you know, authority and all that and just steady
rebellious music, right? And some people believe that's the
best way and I have actually had people tell me, you know, we
don't really discipline our kids or correct them. We kind of just
let them figure things out as they want, you know. I'm like,
"I don't think that's the way to do it." How many of you think
that's the way to do it? Just let your kids figured out for
themselves as they bite and punch and stab each other.
That's not the best way, is it?
♪ [Upbeat Music] ♪
>>TOM TROUT: Hi, everyone! I'm Pastor Tom Trout. I teach a
class here at Faith Alive Bible College. And I wanna talk to you
for a few minutes about the power of music. It's interesting
to me when we start talking about the power of music because
the early church hundreds of years ago was arguing about
music and the power of music. They want to argue about whether
it's major or minor, whether it's model. And so many saying
they thought they came from the devil. Then later on the church
had composers and the composers were paid staff people that
played the organ or led their choir, whatever. And usually had
to write cantatas or hymns and quite often because of the
pressure to put those new pieces of music. A lot of those tunes
came from the local bars and pubs and the people weren't even
aware but yet here they were doing music. It was what we call
a kind of carnal in its way. But in our times, there been a lot
of people who've even dedicated themselves to ministries that
went around of really well-presented presentation
about how music could spoil your children and corrupt their
hearts and their souls and they were backmasking messages. A lot
of those things happened. So the question could be asked, where
did music come from? And I think it's pretty logical if you think
about it. If God is the creator, then God must have been the
source of music. And if you go back to the very beginning of
the Bible it's talks about the earth being formless and empty.
It says darkness was over the surface of the deep and the
Spirit of God was hovering over the waters or that watering
matrix and that were hovering there can really be defined as
"vibrating or oscillating." In other words, there was a power
moving. Of course, it was the Holy Spirit power, but there was
still nevertheless a power moving. And then a verse later
says, God said, "Let there be light." And so it was the sound,
it was sound and a power of sound that began to process of
bringing order out of chaos. It was sound that began to initiate
this thing that we call creation. And light was
immediately there and light was available. So you get sound and
light working. I question here in my mind 'cause later it talks
with Adam and Eve being in the garden and it says they heard
the Lord walking through the garden. My question is, what do
they hear? Could it be possible that they heard the Lord
singing? 'Cause Zephaniah says that the Lord likes to sing over
His children. And so I have to wonder if music was in the part
of even the garden environment and the presence of God emanates
with this sound we call music. So if we have God creating
music, then it becomes a vehicle. And then if you take
that powerful vehicle, obviously anything of God that's being
created on this earth can be perverted. So if you take
something powerful and perverted or put, put it to the wrong
direction or wrong purpose. It will have a negative effect. And
that's the problem with music when the words, when the words
were not right because music becomes a force. It becomes a
power to drive the words home. And so if you have negative
words, unbelieving words, challenging words, then you have
the power of music to drive them into the heart of the listener.
Whether you even realize it or not, they're being given a
source of attitude and a source of character change and whether
the opposite is exactly through the same way. You could take the
Word of God and put it to music and you have the thoughts, the
ideas, the heart of God being expressed. Because music itself,
I would say to you comes from the very beating, vibrating,
vibrant heart of God Himself and that's where the source of power
is and then you put the right word to it. You have the fruit
of God's presence, the fruit of God's glory, and the fruit of
God's goodness in your life and being given to God. So let the
power of music work for the glory of God.
♪ [Segment Music] ♪
>>BRENT: Proverbs 19:27, "If you stop listening to correction, my
son, you will stray from the words of knowledge." So if you
refuse correction, you don't want to hear anymore. You will
end up going what? Astray. That's just make sense, right?
And that's why, I know it's so important for us to be in the
Word of God. The number one way that God corrects us or
disciplines us is by the Word of God. It's by instruction. Turn
to someone say, "Instruction." And so we need to be in the Word
of God daily, weekly, always. Why? So that we don't turn our
ears from it and we don't go astray. And then I find a lot of
people they're like, "Well, I don't wanna go to church so
often." You know, they bark at that. They sight all kinds and a
lot of reasons why church shouldn't be done except maybe
once a week. They don't realize that the only one getting hurt
is them. That we need the Word of God more than we think. How
many of you understand that? We need it day and night. Actually,
God told Joshua meditate on the Word day and night. Now, how
many even know we need to do the same thing. There are a lot of
forces are already against us. That's why doubt and unbelief is
so prevalent in the North American society 'cause the Word
of God is just not in people. And the only way that you gonna
get out of doubt and unbelief and have faith is to get in the
Word of God and says, "Faith comes by hearing, and hearing
the Word of God." I'll say that again, faith comes by hearing,
and hearing the Word of God. If you only hear it once a week,
your faith is gonna be weak. Don't deceive yourself and
you're thinking you're gonna be the mighty man of faith and all
you ever do is getting the Word once a week. Come on. It's not
gonna happen for you. I'm sorry. It doesn't work that way. And so
we need to change our idea, right? 'Cause godly instruction
and correction is good for us because it leads to the words of
knowledge which gives us wisdom. So when wisdom produces life, it
produces a long life. It produces health. It produces
prosperity. It produces everything good that you need in
life. Without the words of knowledge, you're gonna go
nowhere. Say, "Nowhere." And so we cannot refuse good godly
instruction. That's not just natural instruction. It's godly
instruction. Amen. So we don't get lead away. Say, "Lead away."
I would not ignore what I'm just saying right now. Unless, you
know, because it would be to your own peril to do so. And I
know, I am better off coming to church hearing the Word of God.
I don't even care if it's exciting or not. I don't care.
It doesn't matter. You know, so many people will just gotta be
excited. It's gotta have hype. You gotta have this and you
gotta have, that's great. We want all that but at the same
time, you just need to hear the Word of God. You just need to be
instructed. You need to be corrected about your thinking,
right? About our thinking, our thinking goes awry, most of the
time we get into trouble because our thinking is all mess up. And
God gave us Romans 12, they we're supposed to renew our
minds by the Word of God, right? Isn't that He says? Renew our
what? Our minds. Some people say, "I like Christianity. It's
just a bunch of brainwashing." I'm like, "Yeah, pretty close to
the truth, you know." But I don't know about you guys, I'm
glad I've got my brain washed. You should have seen my brain
before. It needed a good wash. I thank God that He washed, kept
the brain, washed everything else. So we don't throw the
brain out with the bath water, right? I kept my brain intact.
♪ [Segment Music] ♪
>>DEREK: Hi, my name is Derek.
>>MELISSA: And mine is Melissa. >>DEREK: And this is our
salvation testimony. So I grew up in Christian home and
unfortunately I never had a personal relationship with God.
So when I finished high school, I pretty much strayed away and
that led to a life of a lot of poor decisions. But through
series of events God had a bigger plan for us and I ended
up meeting Melissa at a bar of all places.
>>MELISSA: Yeah, so we met and, you know, kind of quickly feel
in love. And unfortunately, at that time we were not living for
God and making all of the wrong decisions. So what started
really nicely turned into a lot of fighting, mistrust,
unfaithfulness, drugs, alcohol, pretty much nothing good. And
very quickly at seven weeks we found out that we were pregnant.
And I really believed that's where God decided to enter,
re-entering our lives, to tell you is really what started to
straight our path with following God and ever since then
everything has just gotten better every day.
>>DEREK: Our lives have drastically changed from where
we were to where we are now. We all owe that to God, for Him
having a much bigger plan for us in mind than what we had for
ourselves. And now we have a godly home filled with love. We
have a beautiful daughter, a great church family, and we owe
it all to Him.
>>MELISSA: Yeah, we really wouldn't be here without him.
Everything in our life that we have it's good. It's because of
Him and trusting Him. We wouldn't have gotten to where we
are just on our own which is what we were trying to do. I
think when people try to do life without God, you'll find out
really quickly that you just gonna keep, you know, failing in
different ways but you're always gonna get to the same result.
Which is that you need God in order to have a good life and
live a purpose that He designed for us. He is the best designer
and, you know, He put us together and now we're happy and
life's good.
>>DEREK: So we just, we owe it all to Him. We praise Him. We
basically our lives are for His glory and for His honor.
>> I have seen You. I have seen You. I could never see enough. I
have felt You. I have felt You. I am ruined for your touch. So I
lose myself chasing after You. This is my desire. This is my
pursuit. Holy, Holy. The more I see the more I want. Holy, Holy.
The more I see the more I want. The more I want of You. Oh, this
is my pursuit. I have seen You. I have seen You. I have seen
you. I could never see enough. I have felt You. I have felt You.
I am ruined for your touch. So I lose myself chasing after You.
This is my desire. This is my pursuit. Holy, Holy. The more I
see the more I want. Holy, Holy. The more I see the more I want.
Holy, Holy. Holy, Holy. The more I see.
>> If you feel that this message has influenced you. If you sense
that God is saying to you, "Follow Me." Or you feel inside
you that you need to know God more. Then I invite you to pray
with me. Father, I thank You for showing me that I need You and I
need to follow You. I invite You to come into my life and reveal
to me Your truth and way and show me how real You are. In
Jesus name, we pray.
>>BAILEY: Thanks for watching today's episode. God is always
helping us to be and to think more like Him. This has been
part one of a two-part episode. So don't forget to tune in next
week on the FAITH ALIVE SHOW to hear the rest of what Pastor
Brent has to say.
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