it's inside me this occupation if I liberate myself from this I think on the
ground I will be free because you cannot be free if you are occupied from inside
when I was 17 I came to Israel for the first time to this keyboards join an
open study group and I really felt an attachment I really felt close to the
place I was relating a Zionist as remaining as somebody looking for Jewish
identity I had been involved not ever religiously but I hadn't involved in
different youth groups Jewish youth groups when I was younger and I just
really got the Zionist bud I'm of the World War two generation I was born in
Vienna my family had to flee in from very Zionist home it was very much in me
in the air and it seemed natural thing to do this was 1951 and I lived in a
keyboard so I was to make ebooks for many years nearly 20 years my parents
went through the whole Eastern European thing pogroms refugees Nazis and song
and so this is very very significant for them and I was passed on to me I was in
Jerusalem my whole life and here the conflict is very visible
you walk down the street you have border police checking pal students ID to see
if they accidentally have a green ID meaning they're not residents of
Jerusalem and I'd like to be here you really have it everywhere of course we
had suicide bombers and terrorist attacks that's like what I grew up in
so one problem is that people in Israel don't so much know and what happened and
it they don't so much a health in the information
when I came to Israel I didn't know that there had been people living here before
48 I knew this was a desert that's what I knew the way it is taught to us in our
history classes it's almost as if our grandparents came to an empty land and
settle there have you ever heard the expression a land without a people for
people without land so this is sort of kind of inaccurate actually because
there were people there they were called the Palestinians when we study in the
1948 war we study about how we like how the Arab armies were much more than us
and we bravely defeated them and you know they ran away because they just ran
they just disappeared you didn't run away this word was there one day and
once there the other and we had nothing to do with it when we talk about the
problematic immigration of settling of the holy land of Palestine by it by
truth is not a problem not like a nice problem terrorist ethnic religious
identity it's a problem of the house way in which they sought to settle the blend
and they're seeking political sovereignty in the land Andy at the
exclusion of the of the of the local inhabitants the talks in unison self
being a vine if I didn't offer any other kind of worthy solutions or alternative
things to the people who were living here before well of course the Israeli
narrative starts as that the you know Jews people came here to live in peace
and the Arabs you know Arabs do not want the Jews to live here this is how things
stopped so everything that the Arabs are doing are is hostile to the to the
Jewish people and the Jewish people who escape you know the Holocaust and
persecution in Europe and all of that and said never again they want to defend
this is the basic element of Israeli narrative of the israeli-palestinian
conflict the fact that we are taught it in this way is really problematic
because it means that the Israelis are not taught to acknowledge the fact of
the Palestinians also have a right to a homeland in this area in many respects
the histories of the United States in the history of Israel are very similar
they were both founded on ethnic cleansing
they were both founded on an exploitation of the indigenous people of
the lands that form those countries in terms of understanding the fundamental
of the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians it's really the fact that
Israel today controls 100 percent of historic Palestine so in other words if
you're going to reconcile the two competing nationalisms of Zionism or
Jewish nationalism and Palestinian nationalism you obviously can't have a
situation where one side controls 100 percent of the land and that's what
Israel has done since 1967 when it occupied the Palestinian West Bank East
Jerusalem and Gaza Strip in which it continues to do today we didn't become
more secure we didn't become more safe with what the way things are going on
now and without developing dialogue with our neighbors with our enemies without
considering what the creation of Israel and xlviii did to the population that
was already living here without considering that without discussing that
without recognizing the fact that there there are there was another history
there's other countries that live around us but really aren't interested in in
waging war with us and that we have to solve our differences with the
Palestinians some way one way or another
both both times when when I went to the US but I met Jews I was saying with you
I talked to you just was so free but when I come here when I got back to to
my real life to my ordinary life to my routine just everything got so different
and confused I spent three weeks there 20 21 days like we live together like we
were sleeping in the same same place we are we're eating on the same table
we were once there's no difference between us like not like here as you can
see the soldier behind me I was born to a refugee family my family in 1948 was
thrown out from our village Kiba invisibly now so it was not hard for me
to join the First Intifada in 1987 and I was in a prison I was arrested for three
months in the beginning then after eight months I was released I went back to
prison for four years I was caused it to be 10 years as a prison I got a phone
call and I was informed that my older brother Yousef was stopped and killed by
Israeli soldiers the entry of our village
I lost him and I lost a very important reason to live my background is a
resistance background started from the age of my grandfather we decided to
start throwing stones on the settlers Army during our study in the school and
to block the road to disturb that settlers entire army after that in the
eighties in that the beginning of the eighties we were kids I think they
arrested US and they sentenced us for years
the First Intifada started in 1957 during the First Intifada I spent
three-and-a-half average under administrative detention we believe that
that resistances is one of the rights that occupied people to resist occupiers
in different ways even to use weapons against the army against the occupiers I
believe in there but I understood that going through this bath for forever it's
something useless I figure honeybees
so stop that's it United States if they come to Hebron and
see what's going on they will change their attitude
they divided the city for two bar because of 500 syphilis
I remember the market when I was a child it was full of people full of open shops
full of life now I don't see I don't see that there is a life skill it's it's
completely empty the area here I was born in the old city and my heart is a
closed military zone near where I was born I am against everybody who believes
in killing the other sometimes I feel sorry for even seeing a soldier
suffering not a civilian a soldier because I see that soldier is a civilian
from inside I look to the people from inside we are equal we are human as
everybody in the world what about our rights we are below a beta deficit
ailment in spite of the brilliance of the soldiers all over here and the
cameras but the settlers are continuing throwing stones and attacking the people
from Earth and specially the people who are working here so the men stability
but this fence to protect the Palestinian from the stones from the
empty bottle from the settlers attack from the shops here were closed and will
did by the army 12 shops here from 1,800 shops were closed because of the closure
policy in Hebron and the settlers the if you buy the roof and we created a
kindergarten on the on the roof and they created a playground for the settlers on
the this roof which is completely Palestinian and which is completely
illegal even by the Israeli law the soldiers all the time are here
protecting whom I don't know but it's a closure policy
it's occupation policy to have soldiers who have believed to have settlers in
the middle of people here choose to be Hebrew if you talk about people that you
have to come here all the barking all the kind of shops the wholesale market
as I told you we're here now now the settlers only are allowed to be here
what exactly is this occupation that we're talking about what do we mean when
you say that Palestine is occupied now we're going into the West Bank
Oh
every red triangle in this mask is a mess a large amount of the Westbank
represent the permanent checkpoint there are also hundreds of fine checkpoints
there's a common myth that or idea that checkpoints are between Palestine and
Israel between the West Bank and Israel
trying to protect people from tough to Newton coming into Israel but actually
80% of checkpoints are in the West Bank itself we talked a lot about the
checkpoints controlling movements the wall is an indispensable part of this
system of control
so the world is it's a very nebulous edifice because it's not on the Green
Line it doesn't encompass all the settlements
and settlements on both sides of the wall are growing there's basically a
barrier separation barrier people so at this point this side of the wall
is miscible Jerusalem according to Israel and the other side is airiness
community well it's course a very difficult
position for this Palestinians but it's a necessary evil because it protects
Israeli citizens from Palestinian terrorists on this side we're on Abu Dis
on that side Rana boosie's so they're not separating here between Jews and
Arabs are separating between Arabs and Arabs and so you'd be arguing as the
Arabs on that side of the wall are somehow more dangerous than the Arabs of
the side of the wall it's the same neighborhood on both sides of the wall
here I mean this is an art a neighborhood they grew organically I
used to go shopping there Laden's one people in Jerusalem please forget you
forget carvings on now this is no access technically he's dicta most Israelis
they've heard of it they've seen it on television sometimes some of them I've
seen pictures but you don't feel it on the landscape for Palestinians these
borders are very very real and very palpable here the world is coming from
by the comes from IDs gob and Oscar go outside go to Beijing
you know the Palestinian is refused the world maybe sometimes through the rock
maybe sometimes they do some activity between besides the world justice it
Israeli we are here here's the world sometimes I say we have good benefits
from the earth some samba some people say you are joking no I that's true
now I have some places in the world extremists about myself from pair tango
from I want to rise to anything gay refuse destroyer I think about Palestine
I character with in my in the whole here
and here the cinemas mall cinema maybe what cinema the show some kill me
right here what about five kilometers in the green line so we're ready about a
quarter Philip into the West Bank and yet this is still municipal
Jerusalem
the way the government defines Jerusalem now show you later on the map is is
quite convoluted I mean the Greater Jerusalem actually covers almost 10% of
the West Bank
the green line represents today allowing of compromises the Palestinians that by
and large degree upon for recognition of Israel and peace with Israel and
normalize relations with Israel the Saudi plan is the unanimous plan agreed
upon by all 22 Arab countries but they will normalize relations with Israel if
they establish a Palestinian state on the Green Line so every time you build
over the Green Line you're basically violating this
possibility of compromise with the Tufton even is actually a rather
generous plan given that 78 percent of the land would go to do Israel mr. storm
is unique in that the 70 square kilometres surrounding West Jerusalem
was actually formally annexed to state of Israel no country other than Israel
recognizes this annexation from letting the United States the percentage of the
other population in Jerusalem that Palestinian is about one-third or thirty
five percent 36 percent the number of the amount of the budget that they
received is anywhere between five and eight percent and you see that the
master plan for Millea de meme which is the big settlement we're going to visit
next it goes in this little finger almost all the way to Jericho
although Millea de meme the built-up areas just here the other master plan
Oh
this could be Miami Beach you know the palm trees and the infrastructure it's a
very pleasant place
it's a settlement that was started in the late 70s it started as an
ideological settlement eventually the Israeli government start
to take part in it and houses there are 40,000 people living here now their
plans expanded up to 150 it's a no-brainer for most people
cheap housing out the hills in the fresh air government subsidies why not why not
the other thing that we can see is you see this cluster of homes that look
somewhat out of places building of 5 storeys square windows it's a settlement
called no sign we're actually at their advertising site this kind of idea of a
settler as very ideologically driven racist of probably fundamentally
religious this is certainly one kind of settler but it's not it's a minority
without question the people who made the plans to build this this settlement know
exactly what and where they're building but the people moving in don't
necessarily know or care it's not necessarily ideal at all so essentially
what we're doing is kind of layering one state on top of another in a sense with
all the Jewish settlements with about half a million settlers living in them
all connected by settler roads which linked into the Israeli highway system I
mean the kind of investment we made the last Bank is not the kind of investment
country makes of intense we're creating infrastructure for
infantile single-state
when a person says my home was demolished in a possum he said I lost my
ID and another Palestinian said I can't find work it's not just these kind of
isolated cases of injustice or you know one Israeli who's racist or ten Israeli
Pro races there's this idea of under on the governmental level on the political
policy level of dispossession of economic depression in addition to
fighting to humanitarian fallout from from these policies is to actually make
it into a political struggle against the Israeli government a jerusalem reducing
municipalities very directed racism towards the native inhabitants of this
land
we are going as we are we are because we are invited and we are guests and
nothing to be scared of struggle against occupation
since the wall 67 so is tear gas usually the worst thing that happens or not the
wall think the whole thing is bullet in the head
my first Zionist immigrants from the 1920 it was about million Palestinian in
the few hundred thousand Jews Palestine before the Second World War started
about four years ago struggle against the separation fence which is cutting
half of the village lands in order to build on them the settlement Medina Li
which is built on the lands of the villages around and about two years ago
the highest chart give a verdict that they wrote of the price offense is not
for security it's tronics Asians and that it must be moved to give back half
the land but till now nothing was happened
still never changed and we continue demonstration she's our symbol now in
all Palestine Raeleen is the symbol this is the only one with a continuum without
take is without cessation so already for it for use
what are you curious about about the other side about water what's going on
the Western I don't have any Palestinians plan with laughs and so
most of my my time in Tel Aviv I'm reading the news but it's not something
as going and I see for yourself
both Eric Xiao Jian back no unusual phenomena the other side social sort of
experiments I totally of expulsion swinging we occupied the Gaza Strip and
game late 80s Early 90s basically I wonder because they believe that the
family strong domestic conviction may be able to you know lessen the violence
prevent unauthorized violent and fatality that is not working away time
times you go witnessed in
do you actually think you think you're it's ingrained in you to buy order view
under heavy pressure of social pressure to a very order not to drink our tea
break ranks be one of the one of the guys and you get another you have to
obey both ways I mean you can be right-wing and getting all those
evacuate settlers and so ok I'm not doing it cause you're a soldier
commissioner is obeyed if you think you cannot do it some call me
I didn't think of myself as something militaristic but we wanted to go to the
army to be amended to fight to sell in and we didn't have mobile or political
and politic this because the army wasn't something political
I was very proud I have a picture probably here somewhere of myself in
uniform and my mother standing beside me and obviously very proud see her son in
the uniform of the army of the Jewish state I don't know what you're doing do
not know about Israel and conscription but it's not like in the United States
it's mandatory for all Jewish citizens as well as some non-jewish minorities
it's a two-year service for females and a 3-year service for males at the very
least and since mandatory by law for many years already now draft-dodging as
it's called in Israel is becoming a widespread phenomenon and even according
to army statistics these days up to 40% of those meant to serve don't actually
serve when our oldest son was 15 he approached us and said that he refused
to serve in the military on the grounds of his belief in that system and that
was sort of like dumping ice water on my head the thing that's most helped me to
get to my decision is the dialogue between me and Palestinians and in this
dialogue sigh and ask them questions and and check my and you know what I believe
in and by the answer I I start to see that it's not there you know the only
proof that I thought about and then and then I start to see the reality from
Dell and from their eyes it wasn't just a matter of sympathy with the
Palestinians more more became obvious that this was a calamity for Israel
this is what people are not so much aware of they think that we we're doing
terrible things to the Palestinians we're doing terrible things to ourselves
I saw my friends with whom I served in basic training and later on the medic
course just turn into different people and I did not like what I saw to me the
whole process began during the Second Intifada and I started asking questions
why they were bombings all the time in my city and after witnessing a bus by
myself I really sort of stuff an emotional as well as an introduction
we'll need to understand what was going on there was that moment when suddenly
hit me I said this is this is absolutely sickening I refuse to have any more part
of it and then the ironic thing is that I wasn't it wasn't like I saw some
terrible brutalization of a Palestinian I saw a grove of almond trees being
uprooted in the Sinai desert and that broke my heart
until their this one time when Israel was the land of Baden visit bloom and he
was Israel in the form of attorney Israeli army tractor uprooting this
wonderful grove of almond trees that by braids patience and a great devotion had
been growing in the desert this was in the Sinai desert where it's very little
watered somebody had put in a lot of hard work to make those trees down here
was a bulldoze uprooting slowly slowly you get to fight with other people in
the unit because you don't like you to be very good friend you don't like the
way yeah you don't thankfully you act only where you worked about how he act
then it was kind of divided into two there was the people that were wild and
the people as well-known while the wild people they became a while for the well
known not about white people but also checkpoint ships on whatever I guess
what happened is in the end or more balanced more while the Gatien hood
there's a limit meaning there's a limit to obedience is limit to to what an army
can demand of its soldiers without them becoming criminals and soldiers have to
be aware that they have to be taught have to be taught to stand up at some
point inside the order you've just given me
is a criminal orders flagrantly illegal knife used to date my village is called
genius located in calc Elia district in the noting of the West Bank you can see
they may be from here their settlement until there if there is it is a four GU
slant there is any of the three or four securement here you all like to go to
the gate there Israeli government announced their construction of the wall
in 2002 so everyone when do you want to go to his ninety mosque either they're
made and then this time it is very hard to get a permit
it is safe for you maybe we can tell lift the ask you that you'll go there to
take her photos only this is the time for the gate to open and the for the
farmers to go out they say there is a problem for the army and they close this
gate the gate they close the gate and there's some farmers be waiting for them
to open the gate again she is one from the EAB vib I think of this case they
came to the gate to see when they when the farmer we have any problem and we
know some organization that they can help in this case
she is from Swiss she is a good flame the organist and now nominated again I
call the hotline maybe D : maybe because we work in the allowed for
one and after that the clothes they give
all of the people here in the days we don't agree the sport so they start
making administration when they already saw the people the arrived there they
start a fire gasps and the Astarte arrested some of the over the v-world
and sometimes also the shooting a robot daily life for the Beavers after we have
this demonstration the most of the day the army came and we make careful in the
village
and we gave those things sometimes all the day and sometimes more things all
and they don't allow for anyone to go out and they closed all the shops and
the nobody can go for three or four and think because in close the door and go
inside this is a very mother they are homeless people because they for a use
people you must stay at home it could be become for you yourself
sometimes that when they want to educate some people to make a capo and they
don't allow for anyone to go out and if we catch anyone else
they both had coffee and he took him and like you hear they'll hold a fairly
sound bump many times and they came in the middle of the night and they are
like this tampon and in the houses also
sometimes for all night sometimes for just two hours
we never know really depends many times when people come I tell them you can go
but you know anything you cannot go back in the Indonesian ah you want to
subscriber you cannot have something plan on for the day morning what's in
the fact this is not like in this situation
Oh
but I did not come here to demonize Israelis tonight I came here to also
explain why Israel is like this and it was really I feel like it's in my
obligation also because it really aren't bad people and necessarily not that not
worse than any other you know society but there are a lot of things that that
make Israelis feel the way that they do and I think I should discuss them so the
first is really that we are raised in fear
Jews are very very fearful for the existence and we are very much taught
from our grandparents from our families that you know there's a notion of that
the only way for for Jews to survive of the people is to have a strong state and
more importantly a strong army to defend it and this is the only way we can
survive otherwise you know we might get killed again and this experiment I'm not
trying to undermine the Holocaust er all of these terrible events that happened
in the Jewish history but the fact that Jews are so fearful of anyone who's not
Jewish it's very very harmful to the peace process because negotiating with
the Palestinians is very hard there's a basic distrust of anyone who's not
Jewish it has a lot to do the politics of fear which are of considering the
history of the Jewish people and particularly of a recent generation it's
not that difficult to evoke fear and panic in the Israeli
population people are fearful for their lives and there's a common belief that
we are one little country and we're surrounded by a lot of enemies and the
desire is to push us into the sea it was a slightly true to focus on the people
that hate people and she don't focus at all on other people and so the picture
that day the picture that the normal Israeli gets
from the TV or the press or book so the discussion around him is just focus on
the people attacking and not the people don't
it's like healing from this historical fear when I if I am a Jew and I see and
really activists who could come and be with Palestinian safe and they treat him
with dignity and love and justice then my fear as a Jew will will become
healing in a way well let's be honest I mean there are certain supporters of the
Palestinian people who do so for the wrong reasons and it's not because they
care about Palestinians and it's not because they care about human rights and
international law and dignity for everyone it's because they do have
anti-semitic tendencies and you know the Palestinian people don't need David Duke
is their supporter for example that being said I think those people are
really few and far between in terms of who is supporting the just and
legitimate aspirations of the Palestinian people to freedom and
dignity in equality and independence in their own homeland when the Second
Intifada came and I have some contacts with the Israeli teachers who
in peace and to live with each other two states and so on and at that time I
bring the people those people to the village to talk to the people and I
faced many problems with the people oh you bring Jewish so I was hearing this
word from the people of the village that you bring Jewish to that to the village
why you are being at that time the people in my village didn't distinguish
between the Jewish left-right with the Palestinian rights or not all of them
are the same and it through our demonstrations they saw two different
faces of these various the Israelis who are beside us and they saw them arrested
by the Israelis and they saw them pitted by the soldiers and they saw the
soldiers so the Palestinians distinguish if they were Americans it would be the
same way a bare French it would be the same way that they were Turkish it would
be the same way Palestinians have resisted the Turkish
occupation during the Ottoman Empire as they have resisted the British during
the approach mandate in Palestine and because it's an occupying power
regardless of whether they are Muslims or Christians or Jews or at least or
whoever they are this is an occupation power that we are talking about it's not
about religion now that there's not hatred not that is not anger of course
there is but it's not rooted in anti-semitism which was shocking for me
and I didn't it didn't feel against me personally felt very much against the
conditions in which they're forced to live they call it fate the no one
facilities it's based on and not like the old one that people hate Jews and
now small and people don't like it well behavior or in the way the feel that
Israel do things and I think it's very different because I can say that I don't
think that Israelite in many cases but it's not making me anti-semitism for
Israel to claim that criticism of its policies is derived from anti-semitism
that's what really sets Israel apart from other countries Israel always
claims that they're being held up to a double standard that they're being
singled out for actions it's really just the opposite you know when US
politicians and the US media hold Israel on a pedestal and say that Israel's
actions and Israel's policies don't get to be criticized and don't get to be
held up to the same standards that we treat other countries that's what's
singling Israel out
this is one of the entrance of Shahada Street which goes completely for the
Palestinian the army that they use it just to go outside to attack house
identity Church the Palestinian houses outside the restricted area care about
the others others would care about you I care about them because I have some a
difference they care about me if I feel sick I think will call me and ask what's
going on if the signals attack me they will call me and ask what's going I will
we are sorry but the other Palestine who are really suffering from the citrus
they don't have anybody from Israel care about them I hope that all that is ready
they push the government stop this violation because it's affecting
affecting them in other indirect way nobody in SOL asked himself why the
Palestinian defense Jewish why the Palestinian throw stones or why some
suicide bombers they go to Tel Aviv this is the reason
you
as a Palestinian I don't see that an excuse to be violence but I can
understand it go to the roots to any problem you can solve it
600 checkpoint and the West Bank all the single details of dehumanizing
in your daily life do you need anybody to teach you how to hate Israel if you
grow up in such condition you don't need that you don't need a specific
curriculum for hatred it will do the job for you we are pushing the Palestinians
into a cold and we have nothing to lose and has nothing more dangerous than an
enemy who has nothing to lose things can't get any worse I might as well blow
myself up that is that's the worst of the worst doing these things you have to
justify them to yourself only by saving all these people only understand force
we have to show them who's boss they're not really like us they're second class
but in some way to dehumanize them but you can't have security while you're
oppressing people because people will always resist their oppression if not
they're not fully human beings if not they're servile and Palestinians are not
servile and they're never going to accept the condition of permanent
oppression by Israel now in specific some people do actually teachers of
children or they want to educate the children to become fighters and others
also teaches our children how to be nonviolent and others to teach their
children how to educate themselves you know this major focus is only displaying
this specifically the media showed the Palestinians as only capable of throwing
stones or turning tires or it's floating example selves as if we are born with
chains of hatred or violence nobody is born with you indicated or
violence nobody is born to hate for every other culture and country all
these people who were resisting occupation they are their heroes Israeli
terrorist Jewish terrorists who wear during the British Mandate posted as the
race became Prime Minister's in Israel people who committed massacres against
Palestinian villages complete Palestinian village square district and
they became their prime ministers why do they permit themselves to do things that
they deny to others Palestinians are not angels but were nations seeking freedom
and independence and this is what what is now seen as illegitimate by many
others that was alleged to make 60 years ago I mean when there were so many
countries under occupation they were fighting always awesome while doing the
same basically the Second Intifada started I decided not to participate in
this in Kannada because I'm not completely convinced that we should go
through this route
there is a lot of alternatives to resist occupation and to show and to send
another message to the international community then one of my friends told me
that there is a some Israeli
defuser's people who refused to tell in the army they would like to meet you my
mother was a phone call from Israeli bereaved man he was a religious Jew and
he told her that he have he has lost his son his son was a soldier and he was
kidnapped and killed by Hamas and his name is Chuck Franklinton and they set a
group with bereaved Israeli family and they looking for partners from the other
side to talk and to work for peace and reconciliation even though the high
price that they made that was my first shock my second shock why when my mother
accept them in our home then when we invite them to our home after 30 minutes
Israeli Palestinian bereaved families including me my mother my brothers
everybody was crying at that home and for me I used to have Israelis in my
home but not crying not guests not having coffee
I used to taste what they caused us when they come to our home but it I never saw
that expect from their eyes not just from their behavior so it convinced me
that tenho if those people who bathed the high price could believe in my right
and could recognize my suffering and my pain so maybe there is a chance so I
decided to started to start the contacts with the Israelis because I I realized
that there is some good Israeli that we can't talk to even politically I cannot
take a revenge because Palestine for me is not a case of revenge it's a case of
right as a human being first of all not even as a Palestinian
non-violence it's a very great tool which the Palestinian used in the First
Intifada our nature is the non-violence we want our kids to be aligned in and to
grown up on nonviolent resistance this means that you will have a new
generation who believes in non-violence and they are able to have their rights
I believe that if you want to use force when you are weak I don't believe at all
that violence or military resistance will lead us for a solution as polyphony
so the idea of creating the beautiful resistance against the ugliness of
occupation and its violence as a way to break these cultural stereotypes and to
show another image of Palestine to reclaim and defend the beauty and the
humanity and cultures that we have in ourselves this non-violence that is
practiced since years years years listen nonviolent it's the art of using
your anger it's the the effective way of using your pain
was there a protest at all no because we know that the the demonstration starts
every Friday after he finishes at 3:00 so they came before the say Friday
because they don't want anyone to go there and this ain't a scarab they don't
allow say even for the people to go to breathe
say again the owner of this house he live in Saudi Arabia and there's nobody
in this house only his cousin so every Friday they go to this house
and these same bottles and do you see when they make liquor so that we are
stay like we are staying in jazz nobody can go we automatically we cannot go to
to continue our ways we cannot go to work just we can stay all the time in
the house and it is really we are feel boring of that because it is also not
one day the most of the Deaf day came and we make careful and sample
you think that the army came cause of death stones they came because you know
you know that you know how that we are here we don't have we want to fight the
army just we can make the fight him of the electrons and the stones make
nothing for the Jeep or for the army but they maybe they thought that if we start
throwing the stone after that that we will start other things start the
fighting game of reborn or something so if anyone says trust only came and they
took him to jail
rubber-bullet a real bullet the curio is exotic
foolish idiot I think it's becoming increasingly difficult for Israel to
maintain this facade of innocence and victimhood and that's both within the
general population in the United States and also amongst Jewish Americans and I
think that that kind of mainstream discourse has cracked wide open in
recent years following the 2006 Israeli war on Lebanon and more importantly in
terms of changing public perceptions Israel's 2008 to 2009 war on the Gaza
Strip really opened up a lot of people's eyes to the really brutal nature of
Israeli policy towards Palestinians in Israel and its supporters in the United
States are fearing right now that they're losing the discourse battle
the struggle is being seen more in the light of self-determination of freedom
of Independence and that Israel is blocking these things from being
achieved for the Palestinian people and from what we saw with the Jewish
community that we met there is a change and there is criticism and even stuff
like J Street and this is something that didn't happen a few years ago and I
think it's good but if you look at the Israeli society it goes more right-wing
and more right-wing and I don't know if we're going through a good direction
well I think that the history of oppression that Jews have faced
throughout the millennia can be interpreted in one of two ways for
contemporary Jews around the world either the message is terrible things
were done to us and we were oppressed so we shouldn't do the same things to other
people and we should work for a world in which that type of oppression doesn't
take place to anyone or the other lesson that can be learned is that well this is
the way the world works and you know it just is this way and that therefore
let's not be stupid and let's be strong and let's do what everyone else does so
I think there's two ways of learning this lesson and I see I believe that
within the Jewish community especially you're seeing this today within
divisions in the Jewish American community you can definitely see that
split shaping up in terms of how Jewish Americans relate to Israel and its
policies
so what do you guys think so far it's good yeah
if otherwise could overcome their fear if they succeed to do this Ezreal will
survive because you're Cullen if you buy a nation for years and expect
you will live in security you cannot do that Palestinians are under occupation
and if you can do something just come to visit website and then you will see the
reality and then you will be an ambassador for the reality for the truth
come and judge don't say that I am other Palestinians always a Israelis come and
see and you can judge issues on the ground but one of the things that
changed my opinion about about the area is going to Palestine and speaking to
people and all my stereotypes and my preconceived ideas being very seriously
challenged okay you don't accept this that's what you do to make a difference
what is your life mean if you don't try to make a change
we wish this equation will be in and everything there is info everything and
I wish it will be soon the end of the occupation
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