CIVILIAN CASUALTIES IN SYRIA AND IRAQ AND OTHER COUNTRIES
WHERE THE U.S. IS MILITARILY ENGAGED HAS BEEN ONE OF THE
LARGELY UNSPOKEN TRAGEDIES OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
HUGE NUMBERS
OF CIVILIANS DYING IN AIRSTRIKES AND DRONE STRIKES RARELY GETTING
ANY COVERAGE, AND WE KNEW THAT AS WE TRANSITIONED TO DONALD
TRUMP THAT WOULD ONLY GET WORSE, BECAUSE HE MADE CLEAR DURING THE
CAMPAIGN THAT HE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE DEATHS OF CIVILIANS.
BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE PROTECTED HOW BAD IT WAS GOING
TO GET, AND HOW FAST.
LET'S LOOK AT SOME RECENT NUMBERS OVER THE
PAST FEW MONTHS.
BRING UP THIS CHART, YOU WILL SEE THE MONTH
THAT WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW IS THE LAST BAR, THE NUMBER IS SHOOTING
UP, OF CIVILIAN DEATHS LINKED TO COALITION AIRSTRIKES IN JUST
IRAQ AND SYRIA, NOT EVEN ALL THE COUNTRIES WE ARE ENGAGED IN.
THE
NUMBERS LEADING UP, YOU HAVE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES, SOME ARE
STILL CONTESTED BECAUSE THEY HAPPENED IN THE PAST WEEK, 200
DEATHS IN ONE BOMBING, DOZENS IN ANOTHER -- BUT MANY OF THOSE
WILL BE VERIFIED VERY SOON, AND JUST GOING BACK FOUR OR FIVE
YEARS NOW, HE HAS DONE ENOUGH IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO MAKE OBAMA
LOOK LIKE HE DESERVED HIS NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.
THEY SAID THEY
WOULD STICK IT TO ISIS AND YOU WOULD EXPECT MORE CIVILIANS
MIGHT DIE, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THAT, BECAUSE THE NUMBERS OF
MISSIONS BEING FLOWN IS NOT HIGHER.
IN FACT, IT IS LOWER,
ESPECIALLY IN SYRIA.
APPARENTLY IT IS A RESULT OF SIMPLY TAKING
THE GLOVES OFF, AS THEY WOULD SAY, A EUPHEMISM FOR NO LONGER
CARING ABOUT WHETHER CIVILIANS DIE.
WE HAVE OTHER NEWS WHERE
THIS POLICY MIGHT BE EXTENDED TO, BUT IT DIDN'T TAKE HIM
MORE THAN A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO BLOW OBAMA'S RECORDS OUT OF
THE WATER.
>>BUT LET ME GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT IT MEANS, BECAUSE SOME
OBSERVERS MIGHT LOOK AT THAT AND GO, HE KILLED MORE JIHADIS.
NO,
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CIVILIANS.
200 IRAQIS KILLED IN AN
AIRSTRIKE IN MOSUL, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR ALLIES, 200
CIVILIANS KILLED IN MOSUL BECAUSE WE TOOK THE GLOVES OFF.
TRUMP IS INDIFFERENT, HE SAID HE WOULD KILL TERRORISTS' FAMILY
MEMBERS.
TERRORISTS, CIVILIANS, GOOD GUYS, BAD GUYS, THEY ALL
LOOK ARAB TO ME. AND THERE ARE SOME RIGHT-WINGERS GOING, YEAH.
BUT FOR THE REST OF US WHO ARE HUMAN BEINGS, WE OUGHT TO TAKE
INTO ACCOUNT, WE KILLED DOZENS OF SYRIAN CIVILIANS IN THE RAQQA
PROVINCE WHEN WE TARGETED A SCHOOL.
THEY SAY THE BAD GUYS
WERE TAKING REFUGE INSIDE A SCHOOL.
LET'S SAY BAD GUYS ARE
TAKING REFUGE NEAR A SCHOOL IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, DO YOU BOMB
THE SCHOOL AND KILL THE PEOPLE INSIDE BECAUSE THERE ARE A
COUPLE OF BAD GUYS IN THERE?
IF IT IS OUR CIVILIANS, AREN'T WE A
1000 TIMES MORE CAREFUL?
I HOPE SO.
BUT THEIR CIVILIANS, WE
DON'T CARE.
>>THEY DON'T APPLY AT THE SAME WAY.
PEOPLE IN GOVERNMENT RUN THESE MISSIONS, SIT IN THESE MEETINGS,
YOU DO TO HUMANIZE THESE PEOPLE ALMOST REGARDLESS OF IDEOLOGY.
>>WE WILL MAKE THEM HUMAN AND REAL TO YOU IN A SECOND BY
SHOWING YOU PICTURES, BUT A WEEK EARLIER, FROM ALL THE THINGS I
JUST TOLD YOU, THERE WAS ALSO THE DESTRUCTION OF A MOSQUE IN
ALEPPO THAT ALSO KILLED DOZENS OF CIVILIANS.
ONE AFTER ANOTHER.
>>WE REPORTED ON THAT, AND AT THAT POINT THE U.S.
MILITARY SAID THEY WEREN'T INVOLVED.
TURNS OUT THAT PROBABLY WASN'T THE CASE.
>>YOU ARE NOT HEARING ABOUT DOZENS OF MORE TERRORISTS
KILLED, JUST CIVILIANS.
SOMETIMES HUNDREDS OF MORE
CIVILIANS KILLED.
IN THE YEMEN RAID, WHICH WAS FAMOUSLY BOTCHED
AND WE LOST ONE OF OUR OWN, WE KILLED 30 CIVILIANS INCLUDING
EIGHT CHILDREN.
LET ME SHOW YOU ONE OF THEM -- NO, THAT WAS FROM
AN EARLIER RAID, HE WAS A 16-YEAR-OLD AMERICA THAT OBAMA
KILLED IN A DRONE STRIKE.
LET ME SHOW YOU HIS SISTER WHO WAS
KILLED IN THE YEMEN RAID.
SHE'S EIGHT YEARS OLD, AND SHE IS
AMONG THE KIDS WHO WERE KILLED IN THE YEMEN RAID.
BY THE WAY,
ALSO AN AMERICAN CITIZEN.
WE MURDERED AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD
AMERICAN GIRL, AND NO ONE GAVE A DAMN.
THAT IS STUNNING, THAT'S
AMAZING.
>>AND ANYONE WHO SPOKE UP WAS CALLED UNPATRIOTIC, TRYING TO
UNDERMINE THE MILITARY, SEAN SPICER WAS MAKING THAT CASE.
>>ARE YOU HAPPY?
YOU WANTED THE GLOVES OFF AND YOU WANTED THEIR
FAMILY MEMBERS KILLED, YOU JUST SAW IT, THAT WAS ONE OF THE
GIRLS WHO WAS MURDERED IN YEMEN.
AND WE LOST ONE OF OUR OWN IN
YEMEN.
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET A TOP TERRORIST, WE DIDN'T GET HIM
AT ALL AND THAT HE TAUNTED DONALD TRUMP ON TWITTER.
FAIRLY
APPROPRIATE.
SO MISSION NOT ACCOMPLISHED, ALL WE ARE DOING
IS BASICALLY BUTCHERING MORE CIVILIANS.
AND EVEN IF YOU DON'T
CARE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE YOU ARE TERRIBLE PERSON, RAISE YOUR
HAND, TELL US HOW BARBARIC AND INDECENT AND INHUMANE YOU ARE,
GREAT, YOU ARE IN THAT CORNER, BUT EVEN IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT
THEM, WHAT DOES THAT DO?
NOT THEIR FAMILIES WANT TO KILL US.
IT CREATES ENEMIES WHERE THEY DIDN'T NEED TO BE.
BUT IF YOU
ARE A RIGHT-WINGER YOU ARE IGNORANT, YOU ARE THINKING I
MURDERED SOME OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T LOOK LIKE ME SO I KIND OF
FEEL GOOD.
>>WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE THAT CASE, RIGHT-WINGERS KNOW,
IF THEY HEAR THERE IS A TERROR ATTACK IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THEY
BUY GUNS AND BARRICADE THEIR DOORS TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILY.
BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY CAN'T IMAGINE THAT IF YOU LITERALLY
BOMB AND KILL FAMILY MEMBERS OF PEOPLE, SOME OF THEM MIGHT DO
THE EQUIVALENT, THE VERSION OF THAT IN THEIR COUNTRY, WHICH IS
JOINING AN ORGANIZATION WHO TRIES TO KILL AMERICANS.
IT
STILL DOESN'T OCCUR TO THEM THAT THERE IS NOT A FINITE SUPPLY OF
TERRORISTS, IF WE JUST KILL THE TERRORISTS THERE WILL BE
NEW ONES ANYMORE, YOU CREATE NEW ONES THROUGH A CYCLE OF
VIOLENCE WE ARE DOUBLING DOWN ON UNDER TRUMP.
>>IT LED TO ONE OF THE MOST DUMB COMMENTS IN AMERICAN TV HISTORY
FROM JOE SCARBOROUGH WHO REPEATED THEY HATE US BECAUSE
THEY HATE US.
WE SHOULDN'T LOOK INTO WHY THEY HATE US, WE SHOULD
JUST BE BLATANTLY, OBVIOUSLY STUPID.
BY THE WAY, ONE MORE
QUICK FACT FOR YOU GUYS, FOR ALL OF YOU TRUMP SUPPORTERS WHO SAID
AT LEAST WE WON'T GET INTO ANYMORE MESSES IN THE MIDDLE
EAST, FIRST OF ALL THIS SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF BOMBING AND A LOT
OF MESS, YOU SAY THERE ARE NO GROUND TROOPS -- HE DEPLOYED 500
NEW TROOPS INTO THE MIDDLE OF SYRIA.
OOPS.
>>THERE HAVE BEEN RUMBLINGS FROM THE MILITARY TALKING ABOUT
SENDING THOUSANDS OF MORE TROOPS INTO SYRIA AND IRAQ, IT COULD
HAPPEN ANY DAY.
THIS IDEA THAT WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY AS MUCH
ABOUT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES, WHICH HE WAS FAMOUS FOR DURING THE
PRIMARIES, TED CRUZ SAID WE NEED TO CARPET BOMB, IT IS NOT ONLY
IN SYRIA OR IRAQ, IT'S ALSO GOING TO GO TO OTHER REGIONS.
HERE IS SOME INFORMATION FROM SOURCES IN THE MILITARY ABOUT
SOMALIA --
>>WHEN THEY SAY AGGRESSIVE AIRSTRIKES, THEY MEAN AIRSTRIKES
WHERE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TO BE SURE OF WHO IS THERE, WE REALLY
HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DAMAGE THAT IS DONE AFTERWARD, WE JUST GET
REALLY AGGRESSIVE FOR A WHILE.
WE SHOWED YOU THE CHARTS, WE
SHOW YOU WHAT AGGRESSIVE AIRSTRIKES LOOK LIKE.
>>GLENN GREENWALD MADE A GREAT POINT ABOUT THIS, SOME IN THE
MAINSTREAM MEDIA SAID IF TRUMP GIVES THE ORDER TO KILL
CIVILIANS AND THEIR FAMILIES, BRAVE, PATRIOTIC AMERICAN
SOLDIERS WILL STAND UP TO HIM AND NOT FOLLOW THAT ORDER.
YEAH,
WHERE IS THAT HAPPENING?
NO, OF COURSE THEY ARE FOLLOWING THAT
ORDER.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GUYS DOING THE BOMBING, BUT THE
GUYS AT THE HIGHER LEVELS SEEM TO BE ENTHUSIASTICALLY ENFORCING
THESE AGGRESSIVE STRIKES WHERE WE KILL CIVILIANS.
THERE IS A
MOST KNOW TALK ABOUT ANY SUCCESS IN THESE BOMBING STRIKES.
IF
THEY GOT A HIGH-LEVEL ISIS LEADER THEY WOULD NEVER STOP
TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO FAR, NO HIGH-LEVEL TERRORISTS KILLED,
NOTHING BUT HUNDREDS OF CIVILIANS BUTCHERED, AND THEY
THINK THAT IS A WONDERFUL SUCCESS.
AND BY THE WAY -- BUT
HE DID PROMISE TO YOU, IF YOU WERE UNCONCERNED ABOUT TRUMP,
WELL, WE TOLD YOU YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED -- HE SAID THAT ONLY
WITH THE GO AND KILL ALL THESE PEOPLE, BUT HE WOULD HAVE EXXON
TAKE THEIR OILFIELDS.
IN OUR NEW SECRETARY OF STATE IS THE CEO OF
EXXON.
THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE.
WHICH LEADS US TO OUR POLL.
QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS, COLLATERAL DAMAGE.
WOULD YOU
EXECUTE THREE CIVILIANS IF THERE WAS A 50% CHANCE YOU COULD TAKE
OUT A TERRORIST COMPOUND?
I WANT YOU TO SERIOUSLY THINK ABOUT
THAT.
I'M NOT TRYING TO DO THIS BECAUSE OUR AUDIENCE IS MORE
PROGRESSIVE AND YOU WILL SAY NO.
NO, THINK ABOUT IT, IF YOU TAKE
OUT A TERRORIST COMPOUND, THOSE GUYS DO KILL PEOPLE, YOU MIGHT
SAVE LIVES DOWN THE ROAD.
YOU MIGHT.
NORMALLY IN A STRIKE, AS
YOU CAN SEE HERE, THREE CIVILIANS WOULD BE A VERY
CONSERVATIVE NUMBER.
THEY ARE KILLING DOZENS OF CIVILIANS IN
THESE STRIKES, IF NOT HUNDREDS.
AND A 50% CHANCE YOU GET THEM,
THAT IS VERY HIGH.
SOME OF THESE LIKE IN YEMEN, WE DIDN'T COME
CLOSE TO GETTING HIM.
I'M GIVING YOU A HIGH PERCENTAGE CHANCE,
BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO KILL THREE CIVILIANS.
I'M CURIOUS ABOUT
YOUR ANSWER, I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY AN EASY ANSWER, GO
TO THE WEBSITE, BUT BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT LET ME SHOW YOU SOME
PICTURES.
THESE PEOPLE I'M ABOUT TO SHOW YOU ARE INNOCENT, THIS
IS JUST STOCK PHOTOS.
I'M PARTLY SHOWING IT TO YOU BECAUSE THEY
ARE INNOCENT.
HOLD ON, ONE AT A TIME.
THE FIRST GROUP, IF YOU
SAW THEM, THE THREE YOUNG -- I BELIEVE THEY ARE TUNISIANS -- IF
THOSE THREE GUYS DIE, WELL, WE GET A TERRORIST COMPOUND AT
LEAST.
SHOW ME THE NEXT PICTURE -- THAT'S A FAMILY, THAT'S A
VERY YOUNG GIRL THERE, THERE'S A MIDDLE-AGED GUY, AN OLDER WOMAN,
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE KILLING THESE THREE CIVILIANS AS LONG AS
WE KILL AND TAKE OUT A SIGNIFICANT TERRORIST COMPOUND?
WE MENTIONED SOMALIA, LET'S LOOK AT A FAMILY THAT MIGHT LOOK A
LITTLE MORE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE MIGHT KILL IF WE DID A STRIKE
AND SOMALIA.
I DON'T KNOW, I HOPE SOME OF YOU ARE GETTING
CONCERNED.
ONE LESS PICTURE, WHAT IF THESE WERE THE THREE
CIVILIANS WE TOOK OUT?
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT?
WE ARE
GOING TO TAKE OUT A TERRORIST COMPOUND, WE HAVE A GOOD 50%
CHANCE -- THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL INNOCENT, I FEEL BAD USING THOSE
STOCK PHOTOS OF THEM, BUT I WANT YOU TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT WE
ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>>THIS IS WHAT THREE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE.
>>AND I KNOW FOR A LOT OF YOU, YOU DIDN'T CHANGE YOUR MIND THAT
ANY OF THOSE PICTURES AND YOU THOUGHT THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THOSE PICTURES.
MY GUESS IS THAT FOR SOME OF YOU, YOU
LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE PICTURES A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, AND IT
MATTERS WHICH OF THOSE THREE CIVILIANS GET KILLED IN THAT
STRIKE.
BUT EVERYONE YOU SAW COMES FROM STOCK PICTURES HAVING
NOTHING TO DO WITH TERRORISM AT ALL, AND ARE ALL PERFECTLY
INNOCENT.
ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THAT?
NOW THERE ARE A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY SCREAMING, YES, WE ARE WILLING
TO DO THAT.
AND THE MEDIA, BY THE WAY, WHERE ARE YOU?
I
THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO OBJECT WHEN TRUMP DID THINGS WRONG.
I
KNOW YOU ARE ASSESSED WITH RUSSIA AND A COUPLE OF OTHER
THINGS, BUT WHERE ARE YOU?
AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD AMERICAN GIRL WERE KILLED, I THOUGHT YOU
GUYS WERE GOING TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT.
>>ONLINE MEDIA IS COVERING IT, DEMOCRACY NOW, A BIG EXPOS….
>>THAT'S
RIGHT, BUT MAINSTREAM MEDIA, ALMOST NOTHING ABOUT THIS.
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