We're back and ready to welcome our next case
with this quote from Lebanese author Khalil Gibran.
"Hell is in an empty heart."
That's where hell is.
Bring out the litigants.
I rented one, tried it out, but it didn't work out.
So the logical thing to do is return it.
It's not that we don't want her, we just can't take her.
She signed, so she has to pay.
Good afternoon and welcome.
Good afternoon.
Andrea, you're suing Jennifer and Jhonny.
Yes, ma'am.
Who are they, why are you suing them,
and what do you demand to resolve this case?
I'll explain.
I'm suing them so I can return the child
I rented from them.
Also, I want them to return the $15,000 I gave them
as a security deposit.
You rented a living child?
Yes, ma'am.
A flesh and blood baby?
Yes.
Their daughter?
Biological, yes.
You rented her like you'd rent a car?
More or less. Like a lease.
Explain all this.
I get that it's confusing.
Nothing confusing about it.
Depraved, maybe. Perverse.
But not confusing.
I'll explain.
I'm Colombian.
My childhood was difficult.
My father was killed by FARC,
and my mother abandoned me when that happened.
I was just four.
From then on, up until the age of 16,
I lived in five different homes.
I was adopted when I turned 14.
My adoptive father was very loving,
but he had other intentions.
Eventually, he rapes me.
I believe I grew up with that bitterness
because if my mother hadn't abandoned me,
I wouldn't have gone through everything that I did.
Foster homes, the rape.
I met someone I've been with for three years now.
Despite us being stable,
I'm still terrified of being a mother,
of having a family.
Because of my past.
He's very loving.
He wants a family, he wants children.
I suggested we rent a girl.
With this option,
we'd have her for a predetermined amount of time.
You look at it as you being a foster parent,
giving it a try.
Was there an option to adopt in this contract?
No, ma'am.
-Do you have the contract? -Yes.
Let's see it.
So what were the terms? Can you explain them?
Of course.
Go ahead.
Return to your podium.
Thanks.
It was a two-year contract.
I paid $450 per month
plus 4% interest.
$10,000 in total.
Plus, a security deposit.
-$15,000. -That you gave them.
Right.
That's what I demand be returned.
But you're trying to break the contract before it expires.
I have my reasons. I'll explain.
I explained that I was getting the child private insurance
for whatever medical needs she'd have in those two years.
She told me not to worry about it
because they had a medical certificate
stating the child was completely healthy.
She is.
I don't believe it.
It's been 17 months, and the baby keeps getting sick.
So she's getting sick very often.
I'll explain.
I took her to the hospital
and she was diagnosed with bronchitis,
which manifested itself as asthma.
I've spent months in the hospital.
This is chronic.
So maternity isn't for you.
It's not for me.
You proved with this child that you're not cut out to be a mom.
No.
Not at all.
So you want to break the contract
with seven months remaining on it.
Right.
You don't want to pay the other seven months.
And you want the $15,000 deposit returned,
after which you'll return the child.
That's right.
That's what you want.
That's what I'm demanding.
In addition to the $450 per month,
I was paying $110 for private insurance.
That was your choice.
The contract didn't call for it.
I understand.
You did that voluntarily for your own reasons.
Okay.
And you two are this child's parents.
Yes.
You decided to rent her out.
Yes.
That's incredible.
How could God give children to people who'd rent them out?
Let me explain.
We're former gang members who've been through a lot.
When I got pregnant, I chose not to have an abortion.
But when we had her, we couldn't raise her
where we were,
given all the shootouts and enemies we had.
Why didn't you think of that before you got pregnant?
It wasn't planned, but like I said, when I got pregnant,
I kept it.
Poor thing.
-I didn't want to abort. -Poor thing.
The thing is, we used that deposit money
to make some important payments.
To the gang, I imagine.
It's a tough situation.
But at the time, that was the best option for our daughter.
Respectfully, I'd like to show you
the kind of life I've lived.
I was shot here.
Come closer so I can see.
Okay.
That's why we did what we did.
I didn't want my daughter to suffer
because of the danger we were in.
What do all those tattoos represent?
My friends and cousins who've died.
Even my mother.
She was killed too?
Yes.
I'm also to blame for her uncle being shot and killed
because they were trying to shoot me.
Those were my reasons.
It was the best thing for my daughter.
So as gang members living awful lives,
you decided to get pregnant,
and instead of having an abortion
so that soul could return to heaven
to then be reborn to good, loving people in a nice home,
you chose to carry that baby to term
because you think abortion is wrong.
People have their priorities all wrong.
They brought a child into a world of danger.
Of shootouts and murders.
They then decide the best thing is to rent out the baby.
What do you two do now?
That was before.
Now, with the money she gave us for the deposit,
my husband and I signed a contract with YouTube.
He's an amazing husband now.
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
We're not talking to you.
He's completely turned his life around.
He's got a video on YouTube with over 8 million views.
I'm not going to say anything.
You can see it for yourself.
People have nothing better to do than watch YouTube.
We had to buy the equipment, the cameras and all that.
We're on the road, on tour.
We can't take a child.
So you sing and curse in these songs, right?
We're in Texas and Arizona...
No.
Then why is there a parental advisory here?
Because I talk about the life I've lived.
What we've been through.
Mr. Las Vegas.
Put the image onscreen.
This is what people watch on YouTube.
People love him, ma'am.
Okay, if things are going so well, and you're reformed,
and everything's so great,
why don't you take your daughter
and give her the love and affection...?
That's what we want.
In seven months, we'll have our own house.
We'll have someone to watch the baby.
But we've got a contract with YouTube.
So you can't take the child.
You want her to stay with the renter
until you're ready to take the baby.
Until the contract is up.
We can't do anything now.
It's your daughter. I don't want her.
What I don't get is how any of these people aren't in jail.
If it were me, they'd all be there.
The renter, the parents...
All of you ought to be in jail.
One other thing.
He gave her a certificate from the doctor.
She got sick with her.
Kids get sick!
Exactly!
They can be healthy and then get sick just like that.
How can you two have a child?
Who has witnesses?
I have one.
Bring out the plaintiff's witness.
Oh, ma'am.
Shut up!
You shut up!
Stop playing the good mother.
I guess you've never gotten sick 'cause you're so perfect.
These people aren't thinking in terms of
what this contract is about.
This is a child we're talking about
and they're concerned about other things!
What's your name, sir?
Edgar.
And who are you?
Care to explain?
Of course.
I support her unconditionally.
Why? Why do you support nonsense?
I don't see it like that, ma'am.
She made that decision because...
Sir, what do you do?
I'm a businessman.
I was a lawyer in my country.
You don't say?
I adore her and regardless of the consequences,
I supported her, just like she's supported me.
I've seen her grow after everything she's been through,
and I made my choice.
I'm 100% with her, and that's why we made the decision.
Do you feel special because she's pretty
and you, not so much?
No, ma'am. Not at all.
-Momma's boy. -Shut up! What do you know?
Good thing you can't practice law here.
The institutions that gave you a law degree
ought to be ashamed of themselves
because you don't deserve one!
You know this is illegal. You know it!
Have anything else to say?
No, ma'am.
Great.
Bring out the next witness.
Good afternoon. Your name?
Jerry Ramos.
You're here supporting the defendants.
That's right.
Well?
I've known them since I was little.
We all grew up together.
I was in their gang.
Oh, another gang member. Lovely!
Shut up!
Your only friends are gang members.
We can take this outside.
Nobody else would've rented you a kid.
Please shut your mouth.
I gave them the money so they could leave the gang.
They paid back the $9,000,
which was part of the money she'd given them.
See, ma'am? They used my money for that.
Did you think they weren't going to?
That's why they don't...
We used it to change our lives.
We decided to let them leave for that amount of money
so they could have their singing career
and have their daughter in the future.
Why not have her in the future?
Why have her before they should have?
I don't get it.
These gangbangers talk like they're entrepreneurs.
I paid for them to get out of the gang.
This isn't a business!
What?
They would've killed us. He helped us.
This is my baby when she was little.
I cry every night.
Don't talk to me.
Is the baby here?
Yes, ma'am.
Do I have your permission to meet her?
Great.
Let's bring out Angel Leal and Marcela Gomez, social worker.
Plus, Det. Peñate too.
Poor thing.
Hi!
Hi, Alexa. How are you?
Hi, Alexa.
You're so pretty.
What a pretty girl.
Where's Mommy?
Hi, Alexa.
When was the last time you saw her?
She and I used to get along.
We'd talk and she'd send pictures.
Not anymore?
No, because she says she gets sick a lot.
icate...
What certificate?
She was in great health when she was born.
I had a great pregnancy.
I would nurse her, and everything was fine.
All the drugs you did while pregnant.
Drugs?
How can my baby have asthma?
How'd she get bronchitis?
They must be smoking in front of her.
People get sick, ma'am. I get that.
Wow.
I want the best for my baby.
I can tell.
How can this happen?
Outrageous.
This is a form of human trafficking.
That's right.
This is so against the law.
In fact, there's a Convention on the Rights of the Child,
a human rights treaty for children.
You've violated that child's human rights.
How could she grow up with this witch,
who doesn't care about anything?
The contract states she's her responsibility.
The sale of a child under any circumstance
or the use of a child for pornography
or any kind of sexual activity is illegal.
The sale of a child is clearly illegal,
and both the US and Mexico signed this treaty.
Though it hasn't totally been ratified in the US,
the section dealing with the selling of a child
has been ratified.
What's this child's future look like?
She will have to endure a process.
Unfortunately, neither side is stable enough,
neither psychologically nor financially,
to raise a child given the lives they've led
and still lead.
The plaintiff obviously has mental issues.
Sorry, but you're very unstable.
Why, ma'am?
Sorry, but you're not well.
And her husband is worse.
In my opinion.
A guy who was a lawyer in Colombia
who's fine with illegal contracts
and supports his crazy wife unconditionally.
Both sides are completely unfit to raise that child.
Totally.
Everybody be quiet.
Can you believe how ignorant people are?
These people are talking like we're the idiots
and they did the best they could.
We're the stupid ones for not understanding
all the good they did.
Before, they were very, very, very bad,
and now they're less bad.
All at the expense of a child.
They're so stubborn that they come here
to talk about a contract that's illegal.
What do they think I'm going to do?
That's right.
That I'll conspire with their absurd, inhumane mentality?
You're all idiots!
What about the money...?
Imbeciles!
What about the money?
What about the money, she says.
Unbelievable.
Ma'am, they could've put the child up for adoption,
but then they couldn't make money off her,
which is what they wanted.
Perhaps when the contract with her expired
they could find someone else.
It's a business.
They're exploiting the child.
It isn't.
Don't tell me it isn't.
You were just preparing yourselves to be parents.
Abortion is justifiable, people.
To bring a child into this world to be sold, swapped,
prostituted, and mistreated, what kind of life is that?
There's probable cause here to arrest everyone,
and that's what I want.
For everyone to go straight to jail
because they have the nerve to ask why
and say it's unfair!
I'll let you at home respond to yourselves.
Get them all out of here.
It's final. Case closed.
You're all going to jail.
Be kind, be careful, get educated,
give respect to get respect,
and may God help us.
See you next time. Thanks.
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