I probably should have gone ahead and recorded this to upload at the same time as my last
video.
I expected I'd need to explain, and I doubt this is the extent of the confusion.
After all, I left it to exactly what I said I was going to show - that it's virtually
indistinguishable from something real.
Why in the world would I bother with that when, if anything, that could show how great
of satire it is?
The short answer is I don't think he meant to satirize himself.
That and that the very mention of "satire" tends to shut down criticism and critical thought
about the message.
I mean right at the beginning he had a clip pointing out that, in satire, people tend
to see everything but themselves.
More accurately, I think, people seem to see it as making fun of everything else while
any part they agree with is often considered to be the point.
Technically, all he actually said was satire in the comments was the proposal itself.
If I take that to its absolute narrowest interpretation, that would be the suggestion that we should
create a white ethnostate.
Do I think Real wants a white ethnostate and is either hiding it in satire or somehow unaware
that it's mocking his own desire?
No.
That, and that alone from the entire video, actually does seem to go against the rest
of what he says.
But if we attempt to take this even one step out, even just interpret the suggestion as
being the suggestion that what the left really wants is a white ethnostate, so the rest of
society doesn't have to deal with white people, it becomes far less clear.
Does Real actually think the left wants to rid their world of white people?
I don't know.
But quite a few others do.
Even one of the commenters said that they think the leftists don't want white people anywhere.
Though I suppose saying leftist, especially in quotation marks, might have been an attempt
to distinguish between some fringe extreme and everything else that falls on the left.
But, of course, once something has been labeled as satire it's not merely a small portion
that gets disregarded as having a non-literal point.
The whole thing becomes off-limits to many, any criticism a clear point about either how
screwed up the world is that it could be believed or how dense the critic must be to bother
criticizing.
So then, even though only the suggestion was explicitly called satire, the whole work will
be presumed to be by some.
But is it?
Again, I don't know.
I asked the first time I watched it if the whole video was or merely the proposal, but
received no answer.
That's fine, but that leaves it for me to determine or guess for myself.
So let's go with the assumption that it is...what's it making fun of?
Well, obviously it's got its cracks at the extremists on the left.
It clearly looks at a particular position that's been seen, and argues for how the solution
to the problem presented is the removal of white people.
Though to claim that he's steelmanning anything is to first suggest there's really someone
out there who argues that white supremacy -
not heteronormativity, thin-privilege, ableism, or anything else, whether demonstrable or imagined, but white supremacy -
is somehow oppressing categories of people that can simultaneously be white.
Or worse, that someone is arguing a position even weaker than this.
But I digress...
So, anyway, I doubt much of his audience or mine would fail to see the ridiculousness
of the position he's presented for the left.
Honestly, I don't even think that most of the supposed SJWs would see that position
as having legs to stand on any more than I think they'd see it as being a fair representation
of or superior version of their own positions.
But is there anything else?
Well if the entire thing is satire, then yes, there is.
If it's all just satire and I refrain from taking it too seriously, then I'd have to
conclude he's mocking the people who oppose this argument as well.
The people who present the idea that hatred of white people is taking over or already has,
the idea that this IS the position of the left (and not merely a relative few loud extremists),
and the idea that the left controls everything and is suppressing the right.
This part, however, I do think many would miss - especially, of course, those who believe
that's all true.
And, as I demonstrated far more than that some want a white ethnostate or think the
left is ultimately pushing for it to happen, there are people who believe this.
Problem is, those people seem to include Real himself.
And that's the thing.
That's as much a mischaracterization of the world worthy of mockery as the idea that all
white people are evil, sub-human oppressors of everyone who isn't straight, white, and
male by birth.
I don't know how many people noticed this, but those examples didn't single out a little
corner of the left that's extreme and say "these people over there think we need to
compete in the oppression Olympics.
That little group there thinks everything bad that happens is somehow the fault of those
who have a good life."
They far more broadly described the issue as being the left or insisted it's pervasive
throughout society.
Even Irate Bear, who used labels that could have been said to apply to a subgroup of the left
(however overbroad they've become since),
turned around and described it as "the left basically" ultimately
making what might have been an attempt to be descriptive into something else.
Perhaps a reaffirming that the left is essentially just extremists.
And this goes for the examples from one of Real's other videos as well.
Just like the others I presented for comparison, Real refers to this alleged group of extremists
pushing racism against whites and trying to deconstruct countless social norms as just
being "the left."
And just like other examples, he portrays "the left" as having control of virtually
everything - entertainment, the media, and higher education in one of the non-satire
clips I provided.
Which is why, at the end, I said I wonder how much of it actually is.
How much of the video is satire?
Is it only the proposal that a white ethnostate is the actual solution?
Does it strictly extend to suggesting the left actually wants such a state?
Or does it ultimately satirize those who are fighting "the left" while often not even understanding
their opponents arguments?
Did he mean to satirize himself?
Was the whole thing beautiful satire of the "okay to be white" nonsense (from both sides)?
Or on the other side, how much of it is just another example of someone not understanding
the actual arguments and painting half of the political spectrum with the same one broad
brush?
Does he believe the left controls everything in the world but somehow failed to stop Trump?
Does he believe that the left really thinks the existence of white people somehow inherently
oppresses fat people (even fat white people)?
Does he believe the left in general hates white people and wants them out of society?
I don't know.
I can't know.
I can only take him at his word or not if he even answered those questions.
But I do know others do believe this, and enough of them that it seems like the internet keeps fighting strawmen
back and forth.
As for the point of my other video, I stated it near the beginning: to show that, without
the disclaimers or an understanding of the creator, there'd be no reason to assume this
wasn't serious.
To show Poe's law is at play and everything said is seen as reasonable to someone, even
if Real wouldn't be considered a Poe since he explicitly stated at least some of it was
satire.
And to show that real himself has recently helped spread the idea that this is what the
left believes in, even if he personally understands more nuance than that.
And, in case you're wondering, why I didn't just explain all my points in the one video:
I didn't want to distract from my side by side comparison of the satire piece compared
to what people actually claim.
I didn't want to just sit there hand-holding everyone to see that, for example, in the
first clip from the satire Real claims the views are getting more and more common in
society, being conditioned into the populace.
While in the not satire pieces I showed after, people actually view it as being already extremely
widespread and agreed that the populace is being conditioned by every mainstream source
to believe it.
I suppose by leaving that for people to see for themselves, though, I've left my message
up for interpretation much like the satire piece mine was about.
Could that be its own message, too?
But to be crystal clear for anyone who might be confused.
No, the left isn't mainly extremists who want white people gone.
Just like no, the right isn't mainly extremists who want a society for just white people.
Extreme, ridiculous views get attention. They get shared,. They get the responses... the more
absurd, the more likely it is to get addressed and be made seem more common than it really
is.
And the less absurd, due to our tribal nature and misunderstandings of what others mean,
often get twisted into being ultimately the same as their more absurd counterparts.
And so we keep seeing people focus on what very few believe and even sometimes twisting
that to be worse than those who believe it really understand it to be.
And, no, I don't think satire is dangerous because it's often close to reality.
I do, however, think the tendency to oppose criticizing or analyzing something because
it's satire or a joke can be pretty dangerous, though. Because these things tend to display
some underlying reality and they can often reaffirm massively inaccurate views of the
world.
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