WITH JAMES COMEY. NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> GREAT TO BE ON, GRETA, THANKS.
>> ALL RIGHT, SENATOR, HE SAYS 100% HE'S WILLING TO SAY HE'S
WILLING TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH. AND YOU SAY WHAT?
>> WELL, THAT WAS QUITE A SURPRISE, BUT I SAY GREAT.
WHY DOESN'T HE COME AND TESTIFY UNDER OATH?
I THINK WE WANT TO GET THE TRUTH OUT HERE.
I DO THINK AS YOU KNOW, AS A -- SOMEONE WHO HAS PRACTICED LAW
FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF TIME, THAT THE SPECIAL
PROSECUTOR, FORMER DIRECTOR MUELLER, WHEN HE TRIES TO GET TO
THE BOTTOM OF WHAT WENT ON HERE WITH FLYNN AND OTHERS, HE'S
GOING TO TALK TO OTHER WITNESSES.
IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO BE A HE SAID-HE SAID SITUATION IN ANY OF
THESE INVESTIGATIONS. THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THAT THEY
SPOKE TO AT THE TIME. THERE WILL BE EVIDENCE IN
WRITING. THERE WILL BE OTHER THINGS HE'LL
BE LOOKING AT. OF COURSE, THE NUMBER ONE ON OUR
LIST WOULD BE THE TAPES, IF THOSE TAPES DO EXIST.
WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT WE'LL BE DISAPPOINTED IT SEEMED
LIKE A LITTLE CLUE THAT MAYBE THEY DON'T EXIST.
>> WELL, THE TAPES, OF COURSE, IF THEY EXIST, WOULD BE
FASCINATING TO ME NOT FOR WHAT THEY WOULD CAPTURE IN TERMS OF
THE COMEY/TRUMP EXCHANGE BECAUSE IT'S HARD TO DETERMINE INTENT
FOR THAT. BUT IT WOULD BE IF THERE ARE
TAPES, THE TAPES WOULD BE PROBABLY RUNNING AFTER COMEY
LEFT THE ROOM AND DOES TRUMP SAY TO THE NEXT PERSON, WELL, I
URGED HIM TO THOROUGHLY GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS.
HE DIDN'T TAKE THE BAIT, HE'S NOT DROPPING IT.
I WOULD WANT THE NEXT SET OF TAPES.
>> EXACTLY. SO, I HAVE NO IDEA IF HE'S
BLUFFING WHEN HE SENT THAT TWEET OUT A WHILE BACK ABOUT THE FACT
THAT THERE MAY BE TAPES. BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT FACT, BUT THERE'S SO MANY OTHER THINGS THAT THEY
COULD BE LOOKING AT WHEN THEY LOOK AT THIS, THE DETAILS HERE.
>> YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO THINK, HOW DO YOU TELL WHO IS
TELLING THE TRUTH? PEOPLE IN POLITICS OFTEN TIMES
TAKE SIDES. YOU WERE IN THE COURTROOM A
NUMBER OF YEARS. YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE FACTS.
HOW DO YOU DETERMINE INTENT? ONE OF THE THINGS I WOULD BE
CURIOUS IS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE TESTIMONY OF SENATOR DNI
COATS AND NSA ROGERS WHO WOULDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION
BECAUSE IF THEY THEMSELVES HAD BEEN PRESSURED AT LEAST IN MY
MIND, THAT WOULD TEND TO SHOW IT'S POSSIBLE COMEY WAS
PRESSURED. IF THEY WERE NOT PRESSURED, THEN
I WOULD BE LESS INCLINED. NOT COMPLETELY EITHER WAY, BUT
THEY WON'T TESTIFY. >> WELL, EXACTLY.
AND THE FORMER FBI DIRECTOR MUELLER IS GOING TO GET TO SOME
FACTS THAT THEY WOULDN'T TALK ABOUT IN PUBLIC.
IN FACT, THEY PROBABLY HAVE SAID THINGS IN CLASSIFIED BRIEFINGS
THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT NOW.
SO, THAT IS A FACTOR. IF YOU'VE GOT A SIMILAR
CIRCUMSTANCESTANCE, BUT ALSO TH THAT HE CLEARED THE ROOM.
I MEAN, THAT'S GOING TO BE EASY ENOUGH TO PROVE.
WHY DID HE CLEAR THE ROOM? AND, SO, THERE IS ALL OF THAT
CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE THAT HE WILL BE LOOKING AT.
BUT I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE HERE WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT IS
REALLY GOING ON HERE BESIDES THE DRAMATIC TESTIMONY OF JIM COMEY
THAT WE HEARD YESTERDAY -- BY THE WAY, I THOUGHT MY COLLEAGUES
DID A GOOD JOB OF KEEPING THEIR COOL AND REALLY STAYING AWAY
FROM PARTISAN SHIP AND DID THEIR JOBS.
ASIDE FROM THAT, WE STILL HAVE THE ISSUE OF THIS MAJOR SUPER
POWER IN RUSSIA THAT IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE AMERICAN ELECTIONS
AND TRYING TO INTRUDE ON WHAT HAPPENED.
SO, THAT PART OF THE INVESTIGATION IS GOING TO BE
VERY IMPORTANT AND IT SOMETIMES GETS LOST IN ALL OF THE BACK AND
FORTH. AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO
FORGET THAT. >> AND, OF COURSE, YOU'RE GOING
TO HAVE A CHANCE TO VOTE MAYBE ON SANCTIONS NEXT WEEK AND
WHETHER TO UP THE SANCTION AGAINST PUTIN AND RUSSIA, MAYBE
TO HELP THEM FEEL A LITTLE BIT MORE PAIN.
ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE ON THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE AND YOUR COMMITTEE HAS NOW ASKED -- IT'S WRITTEN A
LETTER BOTH I THINK IT'S BIPARTISAN TO THE PROFESSOR AT
COLUMBIA WHO WAS SORT OF THE CUTOUT FOR FORMER DIRECTOR
COMEY. FORMER DIRECTOR COMEY WANTED TO
GET THE INFORMATION TO THE PRESS.
HE DIDN'T WANT TO PUT HIS FINGERPRINTS ON IT APPARENTLY.
HE DID IT THROUGH A CUTOUT. DO YOU WANT THAT LETTER, THAT
MEMO IF THEY HAVE IT? I THINK YOU'LL GET THEM.
>> I WOULD HOPE SO. IT DOESN'T CONTAIN CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION. A LOT OF IT WILL HAVE TO DO WITH
WHETHER OR NOT THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR SOMEHOW WANTS TO KEEP
THAT EVIDENCE FOR A WHILE WITHIN THAT INVESTIGATION.
BUT I JUST HAVE NO DOUBT THAT EVENTUALLY THOSE MEMOS WILL BE
PUBLIC, AND THE SOONER THE BETTER FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE.
REMEMBER, WE'VE ASKED TO HAVE DIRECTOR COMEY COME BEFORE THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. WE CERTAINLY WANT TO HAVE
ATTORNEY GENERAL SESSIONS. WE NEED AN OVERSIGHT HEARING,
WHICH WE HAVE ALL THE TIME, THEY'RE ROUTINE WITH THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED
STATES. WE NOT ONLY WANT TO TALK ABOUT
HIS LAST APPEARANCE AND HIS COMMENTS ABOUT NOT TALKING TO
ANYONE ABOUT RUSSIA, BUT WE ALSO HAVE ISSUES LIKE THE CHANGES
WITH THE REFUGEE AND THE TRAVEL BAN.
WE'VE GOT ISSUES WITH CRIMINAL JUSTICE CHANGES, THE VOTING
COMMISSION. THERE'S ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND
HE HAS NOT YET APPEARED BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE.
>> ALL RIGHT. PUTTING BACK YOUR LAWYER HAT ON,
INNOCENT PEOPLE, GUILTY PEOPLE
BOTH TAKE THE FIFTH AMENDMENT. AND THERE IS GOOD REASON FOR IT.
I DON'T SUGGEST ANYTHING -- I'LL WAIT FOR THE FACTS FROM THE
PRESIDENT. WHAT DO YOU THINK HIS PERSONAL
LAWYER THOUGHT WHEN HE HEARD THE PRESIDENT SAY THAT HE'D 100%
AGREE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH? >> I HAVE NO IDEA.
I JUST KNOW THAT I HAVE KNOWN JIM COMEY FOR A LONG TIME, AS
YOU NOTED, SINCE LAW SCHOOL. I KNOW THAT HE'S SOMEONE OF
INTEGRITY. I KNOW THAT HE MEANS -- HE KNOWS
WHAT IT MEANS WHEN HE'S UNDER OATH.
I FIND HIM TO BE A CAUTIOUS PERSON.
AND, SO, IF THE PRESIDENT GOES UNDER OATH, THEN WE'LL HAVE TWO
DIFFERENT STORIES. BUT REMEMBER, THAT IS NEVER THE
END OF IT BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY HAVE OTHER EVIDENCE AS WELL THAT
WILL COME OUT. >> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE FACT,
THOUGH, HE APPARENTLY DISAGREED WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL LYNCH IN
TERMS OF HOW SHE INTERPRETED -- HE TESTIFIED YESTERDAY THAT
HE -- THAT SHE WANTED HIM TO REFER TO THE CLINTON
INVESTIGATION AS A MATTER AND HE WANTED TO REFER TO IT AS AN
INVESTIGATION. BECAUSE APPARENTLY THEY HAVE
DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF WHAT HAPPENED.
>> YEAH, I KNOW. I THINK SHE HAD A SPOKESPERSON
COME OUT WITH A DIFFERENT VERSION TODAY, SO, I DON'T KNOW
WHAT THE FACTS ARE. I JUST KNOW THAT WHEN HE TOLD
THAT STORY, I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT HE'S LIKE.
HE LIKES TO GO BY THE RULE AND HAVE PROTOCOL.
AND OBVIOUSLY I DIDN'T LIKE HOW HE HANDLED THE HILLARY CLINTON
E-MAIL INVESTIGATION AND MADE THAT VERY CLEAR, INCLUDING ON
YOUR SHOW. BUT NEVERTHELESS, THAT BOTHERED
HIM AND I THINK HE WAS PUTTING THAT FORWARD TO EXPLAIN PART OF
WHY HE
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