I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT WASN'T GOD AND IT'S A TECHNICAL
DIFFICULTY. THANKS FOR BEING WITH US
TONIGHT. DAN RATHER IS HERE WHICH I'M
EXCITED ABOUT. WE HAVE A FEW NEW PIECES OF
INFORMATION TO BREAK ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN WASHINGTON WITH THE,
WHAT APPEARS IT BE THE MUSH ROOMING SCANDAL AROUND THE
PRESIDENT. WE HAVE A FEW NEW EXCLUSIVE
PIECES OF INFORMATION ON THAT TONIGHT.
LAST NIGHT A COLOMBIA LOOSELY PROFESSOR ASSESSED LETTER FROM
CONGRESS. THIS WAS THE LETTER.
DEAR PROFESSOR, DANIEL RICHMAN AT COLUMBIA, YESTERDAY IN THE
SENATE THE FIRED DIRECTOR OF THE FBI, JAMES COMEY, PUT THE
SPOTLIGHTS ON PROFESSOR DANIEL RICHMOND WHEN COMEY TOLD THE
WORLD ABOUT HIS DECISION TO MAKE PUBLIC HIS NOTES THAT HE WROTE
UP AFTER THIS MEETING THAT HE HAD WITH THE PRESIDENT IN WHICH
THEY SAYS PRESIDENTS TOLD HIM THAT THE FBI SHOULD LET GO ITS
ONGOING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION INTO THIS TRUMP NATIONAL
SECURITY ADVISER MIKE FLYNN. DIRECTOR COMEY EXPLAINED
YESTERDAY UNDER OATH THAT THE WAY HE DECIDED TO PUBLICIZE
THOSE NOTES AND THAT MEMO HE WROTE ABOUT HIS INTERACTION WITH
THE PRESIDENT WAS THAT HE GAVE IT TO HIS GOOD FRIEND WHO WORKED
AT COLUMBIA LAW SCHOOL, AND HE GIVE HIS PROFESSOR FRIEND THE
INSTRUCTION THAT HE SHOULD THEN PASS ON THAT MEMO TO A REPORTER.
AND SO AFTER THAT TESTIMONY UNDER OATH YESTERDAY FROM JAMES
COMEY, LAST NIGHT JAMES COMEY'S PROFESSOR FRIEND AT COLUMBIA LAW
SCHOOL, HE GOT THIS LETTER FROM CONGRESS, FROM THE SENATE
EXPLAINING THAT DIRECTOR COMEY HAD ALL BUT SAID THAT PROFESSOR
RICHMOND HAD IN HIS POSSESSION THIS POTENTIALLY INCRIMINATING
MEMO ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, AND COULD PROFESSOR RICHMOND PLEASE
HAND THE MEMO OVER TO CONGRESS RIGHT NOW.
AND I MEAN I HAD THE WHEN I SAY RIGHT NOW.
MR. COMEY'S MEMORANDA WE ASK THAT YOU PROVIDE COPIES OF ALL
THE THEM THAT YOU RECEIVED NO LATER THAN JUNE 19, 2017.
CHECK YOUR WAUM CALENDAR. IT'S JUNE 9th, 2017, TODAY.
QUICK TURN AROUND, RIGHT? THE SENATE HEARD YESTERDAY FROM
JAMES COMEY THIS PROFESSOR AT COLUMBIA HAD COMEY'S MEMO ABOUT
TRUMP SUPPOSEDLY TRYING TO KIBOSH THE INVESTIGATION.
THEY HEARD THAT YESTERDAY THAT THE PROFESSOR HAD THAT MEMO.
THEY WROTE TO THE PROFESSOR LAST NIGHT TELLING HIM TO HAND IT
OVER, AND THEY GAVE HIM A
WHICH IS INTERESTING. CNN'S MAN RAJ, HE FURTHER
REPORTS TONIGHT THAT PROFESSOR RICHMOND HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH
THAT COMMITTEE AS OF TONIGHT, BUT WE CAN REPORT THAT WHETHER
OR NOT HE'S BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM, HE HAS NOT HANDED OVER THE
MEMO. MICROBIOLOGY THIS IS KIND OF A
STRESSFUL POSITION FOR YOUR AVERAGE LAW PROFESSOR TO FIND
HIMSELF IN. BUT, HEY, IT'S TURNING OUT THESE
ARE STRESSFUL TIMES. NOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LOT
GOING ON IN THE NEWS AT LARGE RIGHT NOW.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, THERE'S THE U.K. ELECTION, WHICH IS
FASCINATING AND A TOTAL SHOCKER AND HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR THE
U.K. AND EUROPE. ALSO HAS INTERESTING
IMPLICATIONS FOR US. HE'D LOVE TO BE DEPOSED BY THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATING THE TRUMP RUSSIA MATTER.
SEEMS UNLIKELY THAT HE REALLY WANTS TO DO THAT, BUT HE SAID
TODAY HE'D LOVE TO. THERE'S ALSO THE MATTER OF THIS
TICKING TIME BOMB THAT IS NOW POTENTIALLY SET TO GO OFF IN THE
U.S. SENATE WHEN IT COMES TO HEALTH CARE.
THE SENATE MAY BE MOVING TOWARD AT A VOTE THAT WOULD KICK OVER
20 MILLION AMERICANS OFF HEALTH INSURANCE.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON. WE'RE GOING TO GET TO ALL THOSE
THINGS THIS HOUR. WE HAVE DAN RATHER HERE AND SOME
EXPERT LEGAL ADVICE COMING UP ON THE SHOW TONIGHT, ADVICE THAT
MAY SURPRISE YOU. BUT THERE ARE A FEW NEW THINGS
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO REPORT OUT TONIGHT THAT I WANT TO LET YOU
KNOW RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THE FIRST IS THE NEWS OF THAT
LAW PROFESSOR WHO HAS A COPY OF JAMES COMEY'S MEMO DESCRIBING
THE PRESIDENT SUPPOSEDLY TRYING TO SHUT DOWN ON ONGOING FBI
INVESTIGATION. THAT LAW PROFESSOR NOT TURNING
OVER THAT MEMO TO THE SENATE DESPITE THE SENATE TELLING HIM
HE HAD UNTIL TODAY TO HAND IT OVER.
THAT OBVIOUSLY RELATES TO THE POSSIBILITY OF OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE, WHICH IS THIS CENTRAL QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE FATE
PRESIDENCY. DID THE PRESIDENT TRY TO STOP
ONGOING FBI INVESTIGATIONS? NOW, THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, ROBERT
MULLER, HE WAS APPOINTED TO LOOK INTO THE RUSSIA ISSUE, RIGHT?
HE WAS APPOINTED TO LOOK INTO THE SPECIFIC QUESTION OF WHO
WEATHER THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN OR ANY TRUMP ASSOCIATES HELPED OR
COOPERATED WITH THE RUSSIANS IN THIS RUSSIAN ATTACK ON OUR
ELECTION LAST YEAR. THE ORDER APPOINTING BOB MULLER
TO BE SPECIAL COUNSEL SAID I DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA THAT
INVESTIGATION HE COULD ALSO INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTE ANY
OTHER MATTERS THAT, QUOTE, ARISE FROM THAT RUSSIA INVESTIGATIONS.
WELL, IT NOW SEEMS CLEAR THAT ONE OF THE MATTERS THAT HAS
ARISEN FROM THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION IS THIS
POSSIBILITY THERE'S BEEN AN ATTEMPT TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE IN
THIS MATTER POTENTIALLY BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
HIMSELF. AND ALTHOUGH THE MULLER
INVESTIGATION, THE SPOKESPERSON FOR BOB MULLER IS NOT CONFIRMING
THAT OVERTLY, THAT BOB MULLER IS NOW INVESTIGATING WHETHER THE
PRESIDENT OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE, WE'RE SURE THAT'S WHAT HE'S
WORKING ON. FIRST REASON IS BECAUSE JAMES
COMEY SAID SO UNDER OATH YESTERDAY TWICE.
>> DO YOU SENSE THE PRESIDENT WAS TRYING TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE
OR JUST SEEK FOR A WAY FOR MIKE FLYNN TO SAVE FACE GIVEN HE HAD
ALREADY BEEN FIRED. >> GENERAL FLYNN AT THAT POINT
WAS IN LEGAL JEOPARDY. THERE WAS AN OPEN FBI CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION OF HIS STATEMENTS IN CONNECTION WITH THE RUSSIAN
CONTACTS AND THE CONTACTS THEMSELVES.
SO THAT WAS MY ASSESSMENT AT THE TIME.
I DON'T THINK IT'S FOR ME TO SAY WHETHER THE CONVERSATION I HAD
WITH THE PRESIDENT WAS AN EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT.
I TOOK IT AS A VERY DISTURBING THING, VERY CONCERNING, BUT
THAT'S A CONCLUSION I'M SURE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL WILL WORK
TOWARDS TO UNDERSTAND THE INTENTION THERE.
>> DO YOU BELIEVE THIS WILL ARISE TO THE OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE? >> I DON'T KNOW THAT'S BOB
MULLER'S JOB TO SORT THAT OUT. >> THE SPECIAL COUNSEL WILL TRY
TO WORK TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER THE OBSTRUCTION INTENT WAS TLFT
THAT'S THE FIRST OBVIOUS REASON WE BELIEVE THE SPECIAL COUNSEL,
BOB MULLER IS INVESTIGATING WHETHER ANYONE POTENTIALLY
INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT MIGHT HAVE TRY TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE IN
THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. FIRST REASON WE THINK THAT IS
BLUNTLY BECAUSE JAMES COMEY SAID SO YESTERDAY UNDER OATH TWICE.
THE OTHER REASON WE BELIEVE THAT THE SPECIAL COUNSEL BOB MULLER
IS INVESTIGATING WHETHER THERE WAS AN OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE IS
BECAUSE OF THIS. >> SO YOU DIDN'T CONSIDER YOUR
MEMO OR SENSE OF THAT CONVERSATION TO BE A GOVERNMENT
DOCUMENT? YOU CONSIDERED IT TO BE SOMEHOW
YOUR OWN PERSONAL DOCUMENT THAT YOU COULD SHARE WITH THE MEDIA
AS YOU WANTED TO? >> CORRECT >> THROUGH A FRIEND?
>> I UNDERSTOOD THIS TO BE MY RECOLLECTION REPORTED OF MY
CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT AS A PRIVATE I SEE CITIZEN.
I FELT THAT IMPORTANT TO GET IT OUT.
>> WERE ALL YOUR MEMOS THAT YOU REPORTED ON CLASSIFIED OR OTHER
DOCUMENTS MEMOS THAT MIGHT BE YOURS AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN?
>> I'M SORRY. I'M NOT FOR THAT THE QUESTION.
>> YOU USED CLASSIFIED -- >> NOT THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.
UNCLASSIFIED I DON'T HAVE ANY OF THEM ANYMORE.
I GAVE THEM TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
>> SO THAT MEANS ANY NOTES, ANY MEMORANDA JAMES COMEY WROTE
ABOUT HIS INTERACTIONS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP, HE HAS HANDED
THEM OVER TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, ROBERT MULLER.
AND THAT'S A SIMPLE THING, BUT IT HAS A COUPLE OF REALLY
IMPORTANT IMPLICATIONS. THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THAT MAY
BE WHAT'S COMPLICATING THE ISSUE OF THIS POOR LAW PROFESSOR.
THE FACT BOB MULLER HAS THESE DOCUMENTS, THAT MAY BE THE
COMPLICATING FACTOR AS TO WHETHER OR NOT JIM COMEY'S
FRIEND, THIS LAW PROFESSOR CAN HAND OVER HIS COPY OF THE MEMO
TO THE SENATE. THAT MAY BE WHAT'S MAKING THIS A
HARD NIGHT FOR THAT LAW PROFESSOR.
BUT THE FACT JAMES COMEY GAVE HIS MODEMS ABOUT HIS
CONVERSATIONS TO THE SPECIAL COUNSEL THAT IMPLIES PRETTY
STRONGLY THEY ARE INVESTIGATING POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
BY THE APPROXIMATE PRESIDENT. WE KNOW HE NEVER TALKED TO THE
PRESIDENT ABOUT RUSSIA OR ABOUT THE RUSSIAN ATTACK ON OUR
ELECTION. JAMES COMEY SAID UNDER OATH THE
PRESIDENT NEVER BROUGHT THAT ATTACK UP, NEVER EXPRESSED ANY
CONCERN ABOUT THAT RUSSIAN ATTACK TO HIM EVER, EVEN ONCE.
SO BOB MULLER'S ONLY INVESTIGATING THE RUSSIA ATTACK
AND POSSIBLE TRUMP CAMPAIGN INVOLVEMENT IN THE RUSSIA
ATTACK. THESE MEMOS AREN'T ABOUT THE
RUSSIA ATTACK. IF THAT'S ALL HE'S INVESTIGATING
THERE'S NO REASON FOR HIM TO BE REVIEWING JAMES COMEY'S MEMOS
ABOUT HIS INTERACTIONS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.
THE ONLY REASON THEY WOULD NEED THOSE MEMORIES IF HE'S
INVESTIGATING THE POSSIBILITY OF SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES THE
RUSSIAN ATTACK. >> DO YOU BELIEVE THIS WILL RISE
TO THE OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE? >> I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S BOB MULLER'S JOB TO SORT THAT OUT.
>> BOB MULLER, SPECIAL COUNSEL, AS OF TONIGHT APPEARS VERY
STRONGLY TO BE INVESTIGATING WHETHER THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES, DONALD TRUMP, COMMITTED OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE. NOW, THE RACE IS ON TO CONFIRM
THAT FOR A FACT, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF DIRECT CONFIRMATION,
IT REALLY SEEMS CLEAR BY EVERY INDICATION THAT THAT'S WHAT HE'S
DOING. SO WE'VE GOT JAMES COMEY SAYING
UNDER OATH THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS NOT THE SUBJECT PERSONALLY
OF A COUNTERINTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATION BY THE FBI INTO
THE RUSSIAN ATTACK ON OUR ELECTION AND POSSIBLE COLLUSION.
BUT IT APPEARS THAT HE VERY MUCH MAY BE THE SUBJECT OF THE
SPECIAL COUNSEL'S INVESTIGATION INTO THE POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTION
OF JUSTICE. SO HERE'S THE OTHER THING GOING
ON ABOUT THAT TONIGHT THAT IS TURNING INTO A REALLY
INTERESTING QUESTION. BOB MULLER APPEARS TO BE
INVESTIGATING OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
IS CONGRESS INVESTIGATING THAT TOO?
WE KNOW THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES ARE INVESTIGATING THE
RUSSIA SIDE OF THIS T RUSSIA ATTACK, WHETHER THEY COLLUDED IN
THE RUSSIA ATTACK. MIKE FLYNN HANDED OVER THIS WEEK
HUNDREDS OF PAGES TO THE HOUSE AND SENATE INTELLIGENCE
COMMITTEES IN RESPONSE TO THEIR SUBPOENAS AFTER INITIALLY TAKING
THE 5th. WE KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT
RUSSIA. IS ANYBODY IN CONGRESS LOOKING
INTO WHETHER OR NOT THE WHITE HOUSE TRIED TO OBSTRUCT JUSTICE
OR ILLEGALLY MEDALS WITH OR BLOCK THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATIONS?
IS THAT BOB MULLER ALONE OR IS CONGRESS WORKING ON THAT TOO?
AS OF TONIGHT WE HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE ANSWER TO THAT IS POSSIBLY THE COMMITTEES IN
CONGRESS THAT WOULD HAVE JURISDICTION OVER OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE BY THE PRESIDENT OR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE BY OTHER
OFFICIALS IN THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH, THE COMMITTEES THAT
WOULD HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THAT WOULD BE THE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEES. THE CHAIRMAN.
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE IS REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN BOB
GOT LAT. HE APPEARS TO HAVE NO INTEREST
WHATSOEVER IN INVESTIGATING THIS MATTER.
HE'S CERTAINLY TAKEN NO STEPS TO EXERCISE HIS COMPETE'S OVERSIGHT
ROLE IN THIS AT ALL. I SHOULD TELL YOU AS AN ASIDE,
SINCE PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN IN OFFICE, THE ONLY REASON HE'S
MADE ANY NEWS AT ALL IS BECAUSE HE BREWED UP A LOCAL CONTROVERSY
HOME IN VIRGINIA WHEN HE GOT HIS SPEEDING TICKET AMENDMENT, SO
THEY DINGED HIM FOR A FAULTY SPEEDOMETER.
THAT'S THE ONLY WAY HE'S MADE NEWS.
AND HE'S GOT THE COMMITTEE IN THE HOUSE THAT WOULD OVERSEE
SOMETHING LIKE AN INVESTIGATION INTO OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.
A DEMOCRAT ON HIS COMMITTEE, CONGRESSMEN LEWIS GUTIERREZ
WROTE AND SAID BASICALLY WE'RE THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, THIS IS
OUR TURF, WE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATING POTENTIAL
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE NOW THAT THE SERIOUS ALLEGATIONS HAVE
BEEN LEVIED AGAINST THE PRESIDENT, LET'S HAVE THE
PRESIDENT TESTIFY UNDER OATH BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE.
BUT THAT'S JUST A REQUEST TO THE CHAIRMAN BY ONE DEMOCRAT ON THE
COMMITTEE. DOESN'T SEEM LIKE HE'S GOING TO
DO ANYTHING ON THIS. ON THE SENATE SIDE THOUGH, DING,
DING, DING. >> COMEY SAID THIS WOULD BE THE
ONLY TESTIMONY TOMORROW. ARE YOU PREPARED TO ISSUE A
SUBPOENA OR TRY TO GET HIM BEFORE THE SENATE JUDICIARY
COMMITTEE? >> IF UNDER YOU ARE LAWS -- OUR
RULES OF OUR COMMITTEE, IF SCENARIO FEINSTEIN WOULD AGREE
TO SUBPOENA, I WOULD. >> THAT'S THAT GOOD CNN REPORTER
I MENTIONED BEFORE, MANU RAJ FROM CNN.
THAT'S HIM DOOR STOPPING REPUBLICAN SENATOR CHUCK GRASSLY
BEING QUESTIONED HE SAYS IF THE TOP DEMOCRAT ON MY COMMITTEE, IF
DIANNE FEINSTEIN WANTS TO ISSUE SUBPOENAS IN THIS PART OF
INVESTIGATION, LET'S SAY SHE WANTS TO ISSUE A SUBPOENA, YES,
WE WILL DO THAT. I WILL AGREE TO THAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, I THINK SENATOR DIANNE FEINSTEIN MIGHT WANT TO
DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TONIGHT SHE HAS JUST ISSUED THIS.
QUOTE, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN MY CAPACITY AS RANKING MEMBER, IT
IS MY STRONG RECOMMENDATION THAT THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
INVESTIGATE ALL ISSUES THAT RAISE A QUESTION OF OBSTRUCTION
OF JUSTICE. THESE SHOULD BE DEVELOPED BY OUR
LEGAL STAFF, AND SUBJECT TO FULL COMMITTEE HEARINGS.
THIS IS A LETTER FROM DIANNE FEINSTEIN TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE TONIGHT, CHUCK GRASSLY.
SHE SUMMARIZES COMEY'S SWORN TESTIMONY, THESE ABSOLUTELY
EXPLOSIVE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT
PRESSURED THE FBI DIRECTOR TO KIBOSH THIS ACTIVE INVESTIGATING
INTO MIKE FLYNN. AND, OF COURSE, JAMES COMEY SAYS
THE PRESIDENT PUNISHED HIM ON THAT, THE PRESIDENT SAYS
NEW YORK CITY I DIDN'T. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT
JAMES COMEY HAS ANYTHING TO BACK UP HIS STORY.
WE KNOW HE SAYS HE HAS A MEMO HE WROTE AFTER THE MEETING.
NOW EVERYONE'S TRYING TO GET A HOLD OF THAT MEMO.
BUT BEYOND THAT MEMO WHICH THEY'RE TRYING TO PRY OUT OF
THIS POOR PROFESSOR AND TRYING TO PRY OUT OF COMEY AND PRY AWAY
FROM MULLER AND PRY OUT OF THE FBI, BEYOND THAT MEMO, TONIGHT
SENATOR DIANNE FEINSTEIN TAKES IT ONE STEP FURTHER.
JAMES COMEY SAYS THERE'S ANOTHER WAY HIS SIDE OF THE STORY CAN BE
CORROBORATED. NUMBER ONE, HE'S SWEARING UNDER
OATH, NUMBER TWO, HE HAS A MEMO HE WROTE THAT NIGHT, AND NUMBER
THREE, HE SAYS HE TOLD OTHER PEOPLE RIGHT THEN WHEN IT
HAPPENED WHO CAN BACK HIM UP. AND WE SAW THIS COMING LAST
NIGHT. HERE IT IS.
QUOTE, DIRECTOR COMEY TESTIFIED THAT HE SPOKE TO A NUMBER OF
INDIVIDUALS ABOUT HIS CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT
SHORTLY AFTER IT HAPPENED. ACCORDING TO HISS ORAL
TESTIMONY, THIS INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS.
ONE, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE FBI, ANDREW McCABE MUCH CHIEF OF
STAFF TO THE FBI DIRECTOR GYM RIB BICCY.
GENERAL COUNSEL OF THE FBI, JAMES BAKER, ASSOCIATE DEPUTY
DIRECTOR OF THE FBI, NUMBER THREE PERSON IN THE AGENCY,
DAVID BOUGH DITCH, AND CHIEF OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY BRANCH,
CARL GAT TAS. DIANNE FEINSTEIN LISTS THEM ALL
BY NAME AND TELLS CHUCK GRASSLY THAT THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
SHOULD HEAR FROM THOSE WITNESSES BASICALLY TO SEE IF THEY
CORROBORATE JAMES COMEY'S TESTIMONY.
SO REGARDLESS OF THE RUSSIA ATTACK AND THIS HUGE EXISTENTIAL
QUESTION OF WHETHER THE RUSSIANS HAD AMERICAN CON FED RATS
HELPING THEM IN THAT ATTACK, SEPARATE ISSUE, REGARDLESS OF
THAT, IF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IS POTENTIALLY IN
LEGAL JEOPARDY FOR HAVING TRIED TO SHUT DOWN AN ACTIVE FBI
CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION, WE BELIEVE THE
REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED HOUSE SO FAR IS BASICALLY GOING TO LET
THAT GO. JUST NOT INTERESTED.
AT LEAST NOT SO FAR. THE REPUBLICAN-CONTROLLED
SENATE, HOWEVER, MAY BE SHOWING SIGNS OF LIFE, AT LEAST IF THE
DEMOCRATS AND THE REPUBLICANS ON THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE THERE IF
DIANNE FEINSTEIN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER.
WE KNOW THE SPECIAL COUNSEL IS ON THAT AS WELL.
HE STILL THE POWER TO INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE.
AND ON THAT, THERE'S THREE THINGS TO TAKE AWAY ON THAT
TONIGHT WHICH WE HAVE JUST LEARNED.
ON THE MATTER OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE NOW AN ONGOING INVESTIGATION
BY THE SPECIAL COUNSEL INTO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
AND WHETHER HE OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE.
FIRST, IF THE WHITE HOUSE ULTIMATELY DOESN'T LIKE WHAT
ROBERT MULLER CONCLUDES ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, THEY'RE SMEARING
ROBERT MULLER, THEY WILL HAVE A HARD TIME SMEARING BOB MULLER
THE SAME WAY, NOT JUST BECAUSE OF HIS REPUTATION AS A PUBLIC
CERTIFY HAVEN'T HAVEN'T, THEY WILL HAVE A HARD TIME SMEARING
HIM BECAUSE NPR REPORTS TONIGHT THAT THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE
ACTUALLY WENT THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF MAYBE HIRING BOB
MULLER THEMSELVES. THEY CONSIDERED HIRING BOB
MULLER WHEN THEY WERE LOOKING TAR REPLACEMENT FBI DIRECTOR
AFTER THE PRESIDENT FIRED JAMES COMEY.
SO IN THE END, THEY MAY END UP TRYING TO SMEAR BOB MULLER
SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD, BUT IT'S A MATTER OF RECORD THEY
LIKED HIM WELL ENOUGH TO INTERVIEW HIM AND CONSIDER HIM
THEMSELVES FOR RUNNING THE FBI. SECOND NEW THING TO KNOW ABOUT
BOB MULLER AND THE POSSIBILITY HE'S NOW INVESTIGATING THE
PRESIDENT FOR POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE, WE CAN
REPORT IT CONCERNS GRAND JURIES. SO FAR WE'VE KNOWN OF AT LEAST
ONE GRAND JURY THAT IS ALREADY INVOLVED IN THIS CASE AND
ISSUING SUBPOENAS. THE FIRST ONE WE KNOW ABOUT IS
IN VIRGINIA. SO THAT INVESTIGATION INTO FLYNN
OPERATED THROUGH THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN THE EASTERN
DISTRICT OF VIRGINIA THEY'VE CONVENED A GRAND JURY, ISSUED
SUBPOENAS AND FOLLOWING A TRAIL THERE.
THAT INVESTIGATION HAS ALREADY REPORTEDLY BEEN FOLDED INTO WHAT
ROBERT MULLER'S DOING AT THE FBI.
IN ADDITION TO THAT FLYNN INVESTIGATION THOUGH, NBC NEWS
HAS REPORTED THERE'S A SEPARATE FEDERAL INVESTIGATION UNDERWAY
INTO TRUMP CAMPAIGN CHAIR, PAUL MANAFORT.
AND I CAN TELL YOU IT'S BELIEVED, BUT NOT CONFIRMED,
THAT THAT INVESTIGATION, THE MANAFORT INVESTIGATION, INVOLVES
A SECOND GRAND JURY SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE ONE CONVENED IN
THE MIKE FLYNN MATTER. SO THAT MANAFORT INVESTIGATION
HAS ALSO NOW REPORTEDLY BEEN FOLDED INTO WHAT ROBERT MULLER
IS DOING AS SPECIAL COUNSEL. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A
SECOND, IF YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT HE'S DOING IN WASHINGTON AND
THESE OTHER ONGOING INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING U.S.
ATTORNEYS OFFICES AND GRAND JURIES, SUBPOENAS ALREADY ISSUED
AND VEFRGSZ UNDERWAY, THOSE BEING PUT UNDER HIS MANAGERIAL
PURVIEW, IF THE SPECIAL COUNSEL ENDS UP WANTING TO ISSUE
SUBPOENAS OR BRING CRIMINAL CHARGES, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HE
COULD DO THAT WORK, HE COULD CONTINUE TO WORK WITH EITHER OF
BOTH OF THOSE GRAND JURIES THAT ARE ALREADY CONVENED AND WORKING
ON SOME ASPECT OF HIS ISSUE. THERE'S ALSO A POSSIBILITY HE
COULD I AM PANEL A WHOLE NEW GRAND JURY.
AND THAT'S NOT THE KIND OF THING THAT'S DONE IN PUBLIC.
BUT AS THE FLYNN AND MANAFORT CASES SHOW, AS THE HISTORY OF
LOTS OF OTHER HIGH PROFILE CASES SHOW, THE IMPANELLING OF A NEW
GRAND JURY, THAT IS SORT OF THING THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP
SECRET FOREVER. AND THAT BRINGS US TO THE LAST
THING TO KNOW ABOUT THIS TONIGHT.
IT'S THIS GUY. IN "THE WASHINGTON POST"
TONIGHT, HE'S DESCRIBED BY A FORMER SOLICITOR GENERAL WALTER
DELL JER MOST BRILLIANT KNOWLEDGEABLE FEDERAL CRIMINAL
LAWYER IN AMERICA, PERIOD. WOW.
HIS NAME IS MICHAEL DREEBEN. HE'S NOW PART OF THE ROBERT
MULLER INVESTIGATION INTO THE TRUMP RUSSIA AFFAIR WITH
INCREASINGLY SEEMS LIKE THE PARKING LOT OBSTRUCTION OF
JUSTICE INVESTIGATION THAT HAS ARISEN ALONG WITH IT.
TOP FEDERAL CRIMINAL LAWYER IN AMERICA,
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