WITHDRAWING THE UNITED STATES FROM NAFTA.
JOINING ME NOW, SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS OF VERMONT.
SENATOR, I WANT TO START WITH SOME NEWS THAT A BUNCH OF PEOPLE
BROKE TODAY THAT THERE APPEARS TO BE CIRCULATING SOMEWHERE IN
THE WHITE HOUSE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF
WITHDRAWING FROM NAFTA. YOU'VE BEEN VERY CRITICAL OF
NAFTA AND DEALS LIKE IT. GIVEN THE RECORD IN THE FIRST
100 DAYS, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHAT YOU AS A SENATOR DO WITH
INFORMATION LIKE THIS AS IT'S HARD TO TELL WHERE ANYTHING IS
ACTUALLY GOING. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
EVERY DAY WE HEAR ANOTHER STORY. WE DON'T KNOW HOW ANY OF THE
DETAILS. TODAY, AS YOU KNOW, TRUMP
ANNOUNCED HIS TAX REFORM BILL, WHICH WAS ALL OF ONE PAGE, WHICH
BY THE WAY OF COURSE GAVE HUGE TAX BREAKS TO BILLIONAIRES AND
LARGE CORPORATIONS. SO UNTIL YOU SEE THE DETAILS OF
A PLAN, YOU CAN'T REALLY COMMENT ON IT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT WE HAVE A TRADE
POLICY IN THIS COUNTRY WHICH HAS FOR MANY DECADES BEEN A
DISASTER. WE HAVE LOST MILLIONS OF
DECENT-PAYING JOBS, CORPORATIONS SHUT DOWN IN THE UNITED STATES.
THEY'RE MOVING TO LOW-WAGE COUNTRIES ABROAD, HURTING THE
AMERICAN WORKING PEOPLE. I THINK WHAT WE NEED IS A TRADE
POLICY. WE NEED CHANGES IN OUR TRADE
POLICY. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
CORPORATIONS ARE INVESTING IN THIS COUNTRY, NOT JUST CHINA,
MEXICO, AND OTHER LOW-WAGE COUNTRIES.
>> ANOTHER PART OF THE SORT OF CARNIVAL ATMOSPHERE TODAY, THERE
WAS A MILLION THINGS HAPPENING, WAS THIS STRANGE SPECTACLE OF
EVERYONE IN THE SENATE GETTING ON BUSES AND GOING OVER TO THE
WHITE HOUSE FOR A BRIEFING THAT NORMALLY WOULD JUST BE CONDUCTED
AT THE SENATE ITSELF. MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE ONE
OF THE PEOPLE WHO DID NOT GO. WHY DID YOU NOT GO?
>> FOR PRECISELY THE REASON THAT YOU GAVE.
THESE HIGHLY -- SUPPOSEDLY HIGHLY CLASSIFIED BRIEFINGS
ALWAYS TAKE PLACE IN WHAT IS CALLED THE SCIF ROOM IN THE
CONGRESS, WHICH IS A VERY WELL-DESIGNED ROOM TO PREVENT
ANY CYBERSECURITY ISSUES OR SECURITY ISSUES IN GENERAL.
WHAT I DID NOT WANT TO BE IS PART OF A PHOTO OPPORTUNITY OR A
POLITICAL EFFORT ON THE PART OF THE WHITE HOUSE.
THE ISSUE OF NORTH KOREA IS ENORMOUSLY IMPORTANT, AND WE
NEED BIPARTISAN EFFORTS TO CONTROL NORTH KOREA'S VERY
AGGRESSIVE NUCLEAR EFFORTS. BUT I DID NOT WANT TO BE PART OF
A ROADSHOW FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. >> THERE'S ALSO TODAY, THE OTHER
BIG PIECE OF NEWS IS THE TRUMPCARE HAS BEEN REVIVED.
THE HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS HAS PREVAILED UPON THE LEADERSHIP TO
MAKE IT MORE FAVORABLE TO THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY IN SOME WAYS,
TO TAKE AWAY MORE PATIENT PROTECTIONS, AND I JUST GET THE
SENSE THIS IS DOA ON THE SENATE. EVEN CONSERVATIVE COLLEAGUES OF
YOURS, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO RUN WITH THIS BALL.
>> I DON'T THINK SO. I MEAN, AGAIN, HERE YOU HAVE A
PRESIDENT WHO SAID, I'M A DIFFERENT TYPE OF REPUBLICAN.
I AM GOING TO FIGHT FOR HEALTH CARE FOR, QUOTE, UNQUOTE,
EVERYBODY. THEN HE BROUGHT FORTH, ALONG
WITH PAUL RYAN, A HEALTH CARE PROPOSAL WHICH THREW 24 MILLION
AMERICANS OFF OF HEALTH INSURANCE, RAISED PREMIUMS FOR
OLDER WORKERS, DEFUNDED PLANNED PARENTHOOD, AND CUT MEDICAID BY
$800 BILLION, AND THIS PROPOSAL WOULD LIKELY BE WORSE.
SO BOTTOM LINE HERE, CHRIS, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE A MEDICARE
FOR ALL SINGLE PAYER PROGRAM. WE'VE GOT TO JOIN THE REST OF
THE WORLD IN GUARANTEEING HEALTH CARE TO ALL OF OUR PEOPLE AS A
RIGHT. >> SO YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING I
THINK IS INTERESTING. YOU SAID HERE'S A GUY -- I'VE
HAD YOU ON THE SHOW BEFORE AND OTHER DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES HAVE
SAID THIS, EVEN OTHERS OUTSIDE ELECTED OFFICE, SAY HE
CAMPAIGNED IN ONE WAY. HE WAS BREAKING WITH SORT OF THE
REPUBLICAN ORTHODOXCIES. HERE HE IS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE I
FEEL LIKE -- I'M CURIOUS IF YOU FEEL THIS HAVING LIVED THROUGH
GEORGE W. BUSH, A KIND OF GEORGE W. BUSH 2.0 TRAJECTORY
INCREASINGLY IN WHAT IS ACTUALLY TAKING SHAPE IN A CONCRETE
SENSE. >> NOT 100%, BUT BY AND LARGE,
THAT'S TRUE. LOOK, HERE IS THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY MANTRA AND HOW THEY MANAGE TO WIN ELECTIONS SHOULD TELL US
SOMETHING ABOUT THE STATE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
BOTTOM LINE FOR REPUBLICANS, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN TAX BREAKS FOR THE TOP 1%.
CUTS IN HEALTH CARE, TRYING TO OVERTURN -- REPEAL THE
AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THROW MILLIONS OF PEOPLE OFF OF HEALTH
INSURANCE. CUTS TO PROGRAMS THAT WORKING
PEOPLE DESPERATELY DEPEND UPON WHETHER IT IS PELL GRANTS,
WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER IT IS AFTERSCHOOL
PROGRAMS, WHETHER IT IS CHILD CARE.
SAME OLD, SAME OLD. TAX BREAKS FOR THE RICH, CUTS IN
PROGRAMSS WORKING PEOPLE DEPEND UPON.
ALSO THE ADDED TWIST, THEIR BELIEF THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS A
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