>>> AND SO TODAY, APRIL 13th, 2017, WAS THE DAY THAT AMERICA
WOKE UP TO THE SUDDEN KNOWLEDGE THAT BOMBS HAVE MOTHERS.
THAT ALL OF THE CONVENTIONAL NONNUCLEAR BOMBS IN THE AMERICAN
MILITARY ARSENAL HAVE ONE BIG BEAUTIFUL MOTHER.
AND THERE SHE IS. THE BOMB'S OFFICIAL NAME FOR
BOOKKEEPING PURPOSES IN THE MILITARY IS THE GBU-43.
THE LETTERS ON THE SIDE OF THE BOMB DESCRIBE ITS FUNCTION, WHAT
YOU CAN EXPECT FROM IT. MASSIVE ORDNANCE AIR BLAST.
BUT THE MILITARY DOESN'T WANT US TO CALL IT THE GBU-43, OR THE
MOAB. NAMES ARE IMPORTANT TO THE
MILITARY. THEY NAME THEIR BASES AFTER WAR
HEROES, AFTER GENERAL, INCLUDING GENERALS WHO HAVE COMMITTED
TREASON BY FIGHTINIGHTING IN TH CONFEDERATE ARMY AGAINST THE
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE BIGGEST U.S. MILITARY BASE
IN THE WORLD, THE ONE WITH THE BIGGEST MILITARY POPULATION IS
IN FORT HOOD IN TEXAS, NAMED AFTER TREASONOUS CONFEDERATE
GENERAL JOHN BELL HOOD. BUT THE MILITARY'S MOST
IMPORTANT NAMES, THE NAMES THAT ARE DESIGNED TO DELIVER A
MESSAGE SOMETIMES SUBLIMINAL, SOMETIMES VERY DIRECT ARE THE
NAMES OF WEAPONS. THE MILITARY'S BEST NAMES FOR
WEAPONS HUMANIZE THE WEAPONS. THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE INTENDED
TO DO. THE GBU-43, THE BIGGEST
NONNUCLEAR BOMB THE UNITED STATES HAS NEVER, EVER USED
UNTIL TODAY, APRIL 13th, 2017. THE GBU-43 HAD TO WAIT YEARS FOR
ITS FIRST USE. DURING THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION,
IT REPLACED THE BLU-82, WHICH UNTIL THEN WAS OUR BIGGEST BOMB.
THE BLU-82 WAS USED FREQUENTLY IN VIETNAM.
THE MILITARY ACE NAME FOR IT WAS THE DAISY CUTTER.
NOT THE BABY KILLER. NOT THE FAMILY KILLER.
NOT THE VILLAGE KILLER. THE DAISY CUTTER.
THE MILITARY'S NICKNAMES FOR BOMBS ARE DESIGNED TO DO TWO
THINGS. IMPRESS YOU WITH SOMETHING ABOUT
THE BOMB. ITS PRECISION, ITS POWER, ITS
ENORMITY. BUT THE BEST MILITARY NAMES FOR
WEAPONS AND BOMBS ARE DESIGNED TO INSPIRE AWE AND AFFECTION.
AND SO THE BOMB THAT THE BUSH AND OBAMA ADMINISTRATION REFUSED
TO USE AND HAS NOW BEEN USED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS
CALLED THE MOTHER OF ALL BOMBS. WHEN THE PRESIDENT WAS ASKED
TODAY ABOUT USING THAT BOMB FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY, IT
SOUNDED LIKE HE DID AUTHORIZE T THE BOMB IN THAT INSTANCE.
IT SOUNDED LIKE PERHAPS HE HAD GIVEN THE GENERAL AUTHORIZATION
TO GENERAL MATTIS TO USE WHATEVER WEAPON HE DECIDED WAS
RIGHT FOR THE MISSION. >> DID YOU AUTHORIZE IT, SIR?
>> EVERYBODY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED.
WHAT I DO IS I AUTHORIZE MY MILITARY.
WE HAVE THE GREATEST MILITARY IN THE WORLD AND THEY HAVE DONE A
GREAT JOB AS USUAL. WE HAVE GIVEN THEM TOTAL
AUTHORIZATION. AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
FRANKLY, THAT'S WHY THEY'VE BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL LATELY.
>> THE PRESIDENT GOT GLOWING REVIEW LAST WEEK FROM MOST OF
THE MEDIA IN HIS FIRST USE OF TOMAHAWK MISSILES, HIS REVIEWS
ON THE USE OF THE MILITARY'S MOST DESTRUCTIVE NONNUCLEAR BOMB
WILL HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THERE ARE AT LEAST INITIAL REPORTS ON
THE NUMBER OF CIVILIAN CASUALTY, IF ANY, AND WHAT TACTICAL GAIN
WAS ACHIEVED BY THE GBU-43. NOW TO THE NEWS THAT DONALD
TRUMP CANNOT BOMB AWAY, THE GUARDIAN IS REPORTING THAT
BRITISH INTELLIGENCE FIRST BECAME AWARE IN LATE 2015 OF
SUSPICIOUS INTERACTIONS BETWEEN FIGURES CONNECTED TO TRUMP AND
KNOWN OR SUSPECTED RUSSIAN AGENTS.
THIS INTELLIGENCE WAS PASSED TO THE U.S. AS PART OF A ROUTINE
EXCHANGE OF INFORMATION. SOURCES ALSO TOLD THE PAPER THAT
OVER THE NEXT SIX MONDAY. UNTIL SUMMER OF 2016, A NUMBER
OF WESTERN AGENCIES SHARED FURTHER INFORMATION ON CONTACTS
BETWEEN TRUMP'S INNER CIRCLE AND THE RUSSIANS.
THE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES THAT PASSED ON ELECTRONIC
INTELLIGENCE INCLUDED GERMANY, ESTONIA AND POLAND.
ACCORDING TO THE GUARDIAN, THE ALLEGED CONVERSATIONS WERE
PICKED UP BY CHANCE AS PART OF ROUTINE SURVEILLANCE OF RUSSIAN
INTELLIGENCE ASSETS. AT NO POINT WAS BRITISH
INTELLIGENCE CARRYING OUT AN OPERATION AGAINST DONALD TRUMP
OR HIS CAMPAIGN. FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN ADVISER
CARTER PAGE, WHO WAS THE SUBJECT OF A FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE
SURVEILLANCE COURT WARRANT LAST SUMMER SAID THIS MORNING THAT HE
MAY HAVE DISCUSSED LIFTING U.S. SANCTIONS ON RUSSIA DURING A
TRIP TO MOSCOW LAST YEAR. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT
YOU'RE SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE THAT YOU MAY HAVE DISCUSSED THE
EASING OF SANCTION. >> SOMETHING MAY HAVE COME UP IN
A CONVERSATION. I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION.
AND THERE IS NOTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT I WOULD HAVE
DONE THAT WOULD HAVE GIVEN PEOPLE THAT IMPRESSION, GEORGE.
>> BUT YOU CAN'T SAY WITHOUT EQUIVOCATION THAT YOU DIDN'T
DISCUSS THE EASING OF SANCTIONS? >> SOMEONE MAY HAVE BROUGHT IT
UP. I HAVE NO RECOLLECTION.
AND IF IT WAS, IT WAS NOT SOMETHING I WAS OFFERING OR THAT
SOMEONE WAS ASKING FOR. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP'S A CIA
DIRECTOR MIKE POMPEO SAID THIS TODAY ABOUT WIKILEAKS.
>> AS LONG AS THEY MAKE A SPLASH, THEY CARE NOTHING ABOUT
THE LIVES THEY PUT AT RISK OR THE DAMAGE THEY CAUSE TO
NATIONAL SECURITY. WIKILEAKS WALKS LIKE A HOSTILE
INTELLIGENCE SERVICE AND TALKS LIKE A HOSTILE INTELLIGENCE
SERVICE. IT'S TIME TO CALL OUT WIKILEAKS
FOR WHAT IT REALLY, A NONSTATE HOSTILE INTELLIGENCE SERVICE
OFTEN ABETTED BY STATE ACTORS LIKE RUSSIA.
>> AND HERE IS WHAT HIS BOSS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES HAS HAD TO SAY ABOUT WIKILEAKS.
>> NOW THIS JUST CAME OUT. THIS JUST CAME OUT.
WIKILEAKS, I LOVE WIKILEAKS. >> BOY, THAT WIKILEAKS HAS DONE
A JOB ON HER, HASN'T IT? >> THIS WIKILEAKS IS LIKE A
TREASURE TROVE. >> JOINING US NOW, MALCOLM
NANCE, MSNBC COUNTERTERRORISM AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYST.
DAVID CORN, WASHINGTON BUREAU CHIEF FOR MOTHER JONES AND AN
MSNBC POLITICAL ANALYST. AND DAVID FRUMP, SENIOR EDITOR.
I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE MASSIVE BOMB THAT WAS DROPPED TODAY AND
YOUR INTERPRETATION OF ITS USE AND WHAT YOU THINK IT MIGHT HAVE
BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE IN THAT USAGE.
>> WELL, THE GBU-43 IS REALLY JUST AN AREA DESTRUCTION DEVICE.
IT'S DESIGNED TO MAKE A BIG BLAST OVER PRESSURE.
A LOT OF EARTHQUAKING, KNOCK DOWN TUNNEL, DESTROY PEOPLE AND
TUNNELS THAT ARE OUT IN THE FIELD.
IT'S JUST ANOTHER BOMB. AND I THINK PEOPLE ARE SORT OF
LOOKING OVER THE FACT THAT IT WAS DROPPED IN A COMBAT ZONE.
A B-52 CARRYING 32 J-DAM BOMBS COULD HAVE CAUSED MUCH MORE
DEVASTATION WITH MUCH MORE PRECISION.
THE AIR FORCE WANTED TO USE THIS DEVICE, AND THEY DID.
>> DAVID FROMM, THE REPORTS TODAY, IT WASN'T JUST THE
BRITISH PICKING UP SOMETHING INVOLVING TRUMP WORLD AND THE
RUSSIANS, ESTONIA, POLAND. IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WAS A LOT
TO PICK UP. >> AND THE POLLS HAVE
PARTICULARLY SOPHISTICATED INTELLIGENCE SERVICE, AND HAVE
BEEN VERY INTERESTED IN THE UKRAINE CASE.
POLAND AND UKRAINE ARE NEIGHBORS WITH DEEP HISTORICAL
RELATIONSHIPS. POLAND CONTAINS MANY MORE
CONSULATES IN UKRAINE THAN THE UNITED STATES DOES AND IT KNOWS
A LOT ABOUT THE CAREER OF PAUL MANAFORT.
THAT NAME WOULD RING SOME VERY NOISY ALARM BELLS IN WARSAW.
>> DAVID CORN, THE WAY THE -- WE JUST HEARD THE CIA DIRECTOR TALK
ABOUT WIKILEAKS COMPARED TO THE WAY THE PRESIDENT HAS TALKED
ABOUT WIKILEAKS. IT'S ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE
MOMENTS WHERE YOU SEE THAT AT LEAST IN THE INSTANCE OF HIS
CHOICE FOR CIA DIRECTOR, THERE IS NO INHIBITION ABOUT SAYING
THINGS TODAY -- I MEAN YOU HAVE TO KNOW IF YOU WERE THE CIA
DIRECTOR AND YOU ANTICIPATE OTHER HUMAN BEINGS' REACTIONS TO
THINGS, YOU HAD TO KNOW THAT I AND OTHERS WERE GOING TO PUT
THOSE TWO HUNKS OF VIDEO TOGETHER TONIGHT THAT WHAT HE
HAD TO SAY TODAY ABOUT WIKILEAKS AND WHAT DONALD TRUMP SAID ABOUT
WIKILEAKS DURING THE CAMPAIGN. >> WELL, IT'S ALL VERY
HEAD-SPINNING. DURING THE CAMPAIGN POMPEO
HIMSELF WAS PUTTING FORWARD ON HIS TWITTER FEED AND HIS
CAMPAIGN ACCOUNT INFORMATION COMING FROM WIKILEAKS.
SO BY HIS OWN DEFINITION, HE AND THE GUY HE WORKS FOR WHO HAPPENS
TO BE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WERE IN LEAGUE
WITH THE WIKILEAKS OPERATION WHICH WAS OF COURSE HIS OWN
PREDECESSOR SAYS WAS PART OF A RUSSIAN CLANDESTINE OPERATION TO
SUBVERT THE AMERICAN ELECTION. SO IF YOU REALLY START THINKING
WHAT HE SAYS, IT IS MIND-BLOWING.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A
CONGRESSIONAL -- I DON'T KNOW. THAT'S CRAZY TALK.
BUT NEVERTHELESS, IT IS SO ABSURD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE AT THE
SAME TIME DONALD TRUMP STILL SAYS THIS IS ALL A HOAX.
>> MALCOLM NANCE, YOU HAVE LITERALLY WRITTEN THE BOOK ABOUT
THIS, ABOUT THE RUSSIAN INFLUENCE IN THIS ELECTION AND
WHAT THEY WERE UP TO. JUST GIVE US YOUR ASSESSMENT
ABOUT THE LAST 24 HOURS OF NEW INFORMATION.
>> WELL, I'M AFRAID TO SAY THIS IS WHAT SEPARATES INTELLIGENCE
OFFICERS FROM JOURNALISTS, YOU KNOW.
I WROTE THIS ALMOST SEVEN MONTHS AGO NOW.
THAT IF YOU WERE EVER GOING TO GET A SCOOP WITH RELATION TO
INFORMATION COMING OUT ABOUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S
ACTIVITIES RELATED TO FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE, IT WAS GOING TO
COME FROM A FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE AGENCY.
PRETTY SURE THAT I SAID ESTONIA WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE.
BECAUSE AS WE LEARNED, THEY HAVE VERY CLOSE TIES WITH THE UNITED
STATES AND OTHER ALLIED NATIONS. AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY GOOD AT
CERTAIN TYPES OF SPECIAL INTELLIGENCE.
THAT'S WHAT WE CALL SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE.
AND OUR SISTER GCHQ AND DGSC IN FRANCE, THEY HAVE A VESTED
INTEREST IN KNOWING WHAT IS GOING ON THERE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IT WAS VERY SURPRISING TO FINALLY HEAR MIKE
POMPEO COME OUT AND DECLARE WIKILEAKS A NONSTATE HOSTILE
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY. I WROTE A WHOLE CHAPTER IN MY
BOOK ABOUT HOW WIKILEAKS WAS NONSTATE INTELLIGENCE COMPANY
AND A SUBSIDIARY OF THE FSB. THAT BEING SAID, IT'S GOING TO
BE FASCINATING FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NOW BEEN FOUND TO COOPERATE
WITH WIKILEAKS. BECAUSE THIS IS ESSENTIALLY HIM
VERBALIZING IN AN UNCLASSIFIED SETTING AN INTELLIGENCE FINDING
THAT THEY WERE IN LEAGUE, NOT ONLY WITH RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE
PERHAPS BY EXTENSION, BUT NOW A DESIGNATED NONSTATE HOSTILE
INTELLIGENCE AGENCY. IT'S GOING TO MAKE FOR SOME
VERY, VERY INTERESTING CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS AND
TRIALS. THERE.
>> ARE PEOPLE IN THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, POMPEO AND
TILLERSON WHO ARE TRYING TO GOO LEGIT, AS ACTIVISTS WHO MOVE
FROM ONE COUNTRY TO ANOTHER KIND OF WORK.
AND THEY ARE TRYING TO HEM THE PRESIDENT IN.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING QUESTIONS, AND WE'LL BE STUDYING
THIS IN POLITICAL SCIENCE FOR A LONG TIME, CAN YOU HEM IN THE
PRESIDENT? CAN YOU REMOVE THE PRESIDENT'S
AGENCY AND AUTHORITY? BECAUSE THERE IS THIS GROUP OF
NOW POMPEO, NOW TILLERSON, BEFORE THAT MATTIS, BEFORE THAT
McMASTER WHO WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE PRESIDENT TO GOLF MORE AND
WATCH MORE TELEVISION AND LET THEM RUN THE GOVERNMENT.
IN OTHER CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE A RATHER
SINISTER THING. IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE, IT MAY
LOOK LIKE THE SECOND BEST OPTION.
>> DAVID CORN -- GO AHEAD, DAVID.
>> I WAS JUST GOING THE SAY THE QUESTION IS, CAN THEY REALLY
WIPE OFF THE STENCH OF DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN?
AND IF NOT THE COLLUSION ENCOURAGING THIS PUTIN OPERATION
TO SUBVERT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. I MEAN, THEY ALL ADMIT IT
HAPPENED. TILLERSON ADMITTED IT.
NIKKI HALEY ADMITTED IT. MIKE POMPEO SAID IT TODAY.
WHILE ROGER STONE IS OUT THERE PUSHING CONSPIRACY THEORYS ON
THIS NETWORK AND OTHERS. SO CAN THEY KIND OF ACT AS IF
THEY'RE LEGITIMATE, EVEN WHEN THEY'RE WORKING FOR A FELLOW WHO
DENIES THE ORIGINAL SIN OF THIS ADMINISTRATION AND STILL
CONTINUES TO SAY THINGS THAT MAKE NO SENSE?
>> I THINK THE ANSWER TO THAT, DAVID, WOULD BE FROM A MORAL
POINT OF VIEW, MAYBE NOT. FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW,
EVERYBODY HAS TO BE LESS FUSSY. >> MALCOLM NANCE, ISN'T IT A
QUESTION OF WHAT ARE THEY SAYING FROM THIS POINT FORWARD?
WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT TILLERSON WAS SAYING THE WEEK BEFORE THE
CHEMICAL ATTACK IN SYRIA, HE SEEMED LIKE HE HADN'T EVEN FOUND
HIS WAY AROUND THE OFFICE YET AND DIDN'T HAVE THE VAGUEST IDEA
WHAT A REASONABLE TALKING POINT SOUNDED LIKE ON SYRIA, SAYING HE
WAS GOING TO LEAVE IT TO, WHAT, THE DEMOCRATIC EXPRESSION OF THE
SYRIAN PEOPLE, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ASSAD.
EVERYTHING HE HAS SAID SINCE THE CHEMICAL ATTACK HAS BEEN A
STRONG STATEMENT ABOUT BOTH SYRIA AND THE RUSSIAN
INVOLVEMENT IN THAT, INCLUDING HIM SPECULATING THAT RUSSIA
COULD POSSIBLY HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT BEFORE THE FACT.
SO IS IT ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE LIKE WITH POMPEO TODAY,
YOU PICK A SPOT AND YOU SAY WE'RE GOING TO START WATCHING
HIM FROM HERE FORWARD AND SEE WHAT HE DOES?
>> WELL, YES, BECAUSE PRIOR TO LAST WEEK, THINGS WERE PRETTY
RUDDERLESS IN THE WHITE HOUSE. AND THAT RUDDERLESSNESS CAME
FROM THE PALACE INTRIGUE THAT WAS GOING ON BETWEEN JARED
KUSHNER, STEVE BANNON, DONALD TRUMP JUMPING IN BOTH FEET IN
CERTAIN THINGS. BUT NOW YOU HAVE GENERAL
McMASTER AND YOU THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE MATTIS GIVING STRONG
INDICATIONS THAT THERE HAS TO BE A CERTAIN WAY.
MOST INTERESTINGLY IS NIKKI HALEY AS U.N. AMBASSADOR HAS
BEEN FAR AHEAD OF EVEN McMASTER AND MATTIS.
AND THE STRENGTH OF HER STATEMENTS ABOUT RUSSIA AND
SYRIA. AND SO NOW IT APPEARS THAT IT'S
COMING TOGETHER AT LEAST ON THESE TWO POINTS, EVEN THOUGH AS
I CONTEND, THE ATTACK ON SYRIA WAS A COMPLETE WASH.
WE DIDN'T DESTROY ANYTHING. WE DIDN'T DESTROY CHEMICAL
WEAPONS. WE JUST SHOWED THAT WE KNEW HOW
TO TURN THE KEY AND LAUNCH CRUISE MISSILES.
SO I THINK THAT THE WHITE HOUSE IN SOME RESPECTS IS COMING
TOGETHER. AND IF THESE THREATS AND
STATEMENTS ABOUT NORTH KOREA ARE TRUE, AS WE'RE GOING TO TALK
ABOUT A LITTLE LATER, THEY HAD BETTER GET THEIR ACTS TOGETHER.
BECAUSE THIS IS THE SORT OF TALK THAT WILL BRING THIS NATION INTO
WAR OR TO A CRISIS THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, RESEMBLE THE PACES TO
WAR. >> DAVID, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
HEMMING IN A PRESIDENT, THAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST IN A MORE
SUBTLE WAY. JUST THE ADVISERS WOULD
BASICALLY -- THE EXPERTS IN THE AREAS OF DEFENSE OR WHATEVER IT
WAS WOULD PRESENT A SET OF POSSIBILITIES.
ONLY ONE OF WHICH LOOKED POSSIBLE AND THE OTHERS JUST
WEREN'T. AND SO THAT WAS ALWAYS THE
TRADITIONAL WAY IF THE ADVISERS WERE TRYING TO HEM IN THE
PRESIDENT. >> WELL, IT IS A MORE EXTREME
WAY, WHICH YOU'LL REMEMBER FROM THE HISTORY, JAMES SCHLESINGER
IN THE LAST DAYS OF WATERGATE TELLING THE NUCLEAR COMMAND BY
THE WAY, I'M PUTTING MYSELF AS SECRETARY OF DEFENSE INTO THE
NUCLEAR COMMAND. IF YOU GET ANY FUNNY ORDERS FROM
THE PRESIDENT, JUST RUN THEM PAST ME.
>> THIS WAS WHEN PRESIDENT NIXON WAS UP DRUNK LATE AT NIGHT IN
THE WHITE HOUSE. >> TAKING PILLS.
>> AND APPROACHING THE POINT OF BEING FORCED TO RESIGN.
HIS SAID DON'T TAKE ANY NUCLEAR ORDERS FROM HIM IN THE MIDDLE OF
THE NIGHT. >> RIGHT.
UNLESS YOU CLEARED THEM WITH ME. SO PRESIDENTS CAN BE HEMMED IN.
THE QUESTION, HOW MANY WEEKS DID THAT OCCUR OVER?
>> RELATIVELY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.
>> CAN YOU DO IT OVER FOUR YEARS?
PROBABLY NOT. IN THE END, THE PRESIDENT FIRES
A ALL OF THESE PEOPLE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
DONALD TRUMP'S DISPLAYED IS, AND HE HAS DONE IT NOW TO HIS WHITE
HOUSE STAFF, STEVE BANNON AND OTHERS, HE DOESN'T LIKE IT WHEN
ANYONE NEAR HIM GETS TOO BIG. AND RIGHT NOW MATTIS IS VERY
BIG, AND TILLERSON IS GETTING BIGGER, AND NIKKI HALEY IN
PARTICULAR IS GETTING VERY BIG. HOW WILL THE PRESIDENT FEEL
ABOUT THAT TOMORROW, NEXT WEEK, THE WEEK AFTER THAT.
>> DAVID CORN, ISN'T THAT A MATTER OF HOW "SATURDAY NIGHT
LIVE" TREATS IT? IF "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" SAYS
NIKKI HALEY IS THE BRAINS OF THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE, THAT'S WHEN
THE CLOCK STARTS TICKING? >> I WOULD AMEND DAVID'S ASTUTE
OBSERVATION. IT'S NOT HOW PEOPLE AROUND
DONALD TRUMP GETTING BIG. IT'S HOW IT'S PORTRAYED AND
PERCEIVED. AND BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY HOW HE
VIEWS THE WORLD. HE VIEWS THE WORLD AND HOW THE
WORLD IS VIEWING HIM. THE REALITY DOESN'T MATTER AS
MUCH. AND IF WE TALK ABOUT HEMMING IN
AND McMASTERS GETTING HIS HANDS AROUND THE NATIONAL SECURITY
COUNCIL AND MATTIS, WE SEE IT ONLY TAKES TRUMP SEVEN SECONDS
TO SAY SOMETHING OR EVEN LESS SECONDS TO TWEET SOMETHING ABOUT
NORTH KOREA OR SOMETHING ELSE THAT CAN BE INCREDIBLY
DESTABILIZING. SO YOU CAN HEM IN A GUY TO A
CERTAIN DEGREE. BUT WHEN HE IS UP AT 6:00 IN THE
MORNING, I DON'T THINK MATTIS OR McMASTERS OR EVEN HIS WIFE ARE
LOOKING OVER HIS SHOULDERS. SO THERE STILL IS A LOT OF
INSTABILITY THERE. >> SHOULD NBC HAVE SOME KIND OF
CORPORATE ETHICS OFFICER IN THE "SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE" WRITINGS
ROOM SAYING PLEASE DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT NIKKI HALEY
OVERNIGHT. >> NO, NO CORPORATE INTERFERENCE
THERE. >> BUT MAYBE FOR THE SAKE OF THE
COUNTRY THEY SHOULD. WE DON'T
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