PALIN? IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW DONALD
TRUMP HAPPENED, THAT'S WHERE TO START.
>> THAT'S AN INTERESTING PARALLEL.
>>> WE THINK WE'VE CRACKED THE CODE HERE.
A ROCK BEING GIVEN TO STEVE BANNON FOR HALLOWEEN AS CONGRESS
IS CONSUMED WITH A DEADLINE TO FUND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ALSO
MARKS THE END OF TRUMP'S FIRST 100 DAYS.
THE WHITE HOUSE IS PRESSURING GOP LEADERSHIP TO PASS A HEALTH
REFORM BILL FOR THAT DATE. AXIOS REPORTS THAT TAX REFORM
HEARING HAS BEEN POSTPONED. >> DOGS AND CATS.
>> LET'S CUT STRAIGHT TO IT. >> IT'S A ROCK.
>> BOB COSTA, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?
I WAS ASKING KASIE IF THERE WAS FRUSTRATION.
WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? >> MY SOURCES SAID WE'RE MOVING.
WE'RE GOING TO BRING THIS BILL UP IF WE CAN NEXT WEEK.
WHITE HOUSE CUTS A DEAL WITH THE FREEDOM CAUCUS.
MY SOURCES ON CAPITOL HILL IN THE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP SAY
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE NOT HEARING THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE VOTES FOR THIS KIND OF LEGISLATION.
THERE'S A REAL DIVIDE. HERE IS WHAT'S HAPPENING ON
PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE. TRUMP CONFIDANTES ARE UNDER
IMMENSE PRESSURE FROM THE TOP TO GET SOMETHING DONE ON HEALTH
CARE BEFORE THE 100-DAY MARK AND PAUL RYAN'S ALLIES AT CAPITOL
HILL ARE SAYING, WHOA, WAIT A MINUTE.
THIS THING ALREADY FELL APART. WE DON'T WANT TO BRING IT TO THE
FLOOR AGAIN. >> DONALD TRUMP JUST TWEETED
ABOUT THE 100-DAY THING. TRUMP TWEETED NO MATTER HOW MUCH
I ACCOMPLISH DURING THE RIDICULOUS STANDARD OF THE FIRST
100 DAYS, AND IT HAS BEEN A LOT, INCLUDING SUPREME COURT, MEDIA
WILL KILL. HE'S CALLING THE 100 DAYS THING
RIDICULOUS, BUT THE WHITE HOUSE IS SAYING --
>> JOHN MEACHUM, THE IRONY IS THAT NO ONE IS FOCUSED ON THEIR
FIRST 100 DAYS SINCE FDR MORE THAN DONALD TRUMP.
HE IS THE ONE THAT IS SETTING THIS RIDICULOUS STANDARD.
>> YOU KNOW, AS SOMEONE WHO TENDS TO THE DRAMATIC GESTURE,
THAT WAS A BIG PART OF THE CAMPAIGN N 90 DAYS, YOU WILL
HAVE THIS. >> ON DAY ONE.
>> AND I CONTINUE TO THINK IT'S PARTLY BECAUSE HE THINKS IN
TERMS OF WEEKLY TELEVISION. >> RIGHT.
>> EVERYTHING IS ABOUT AN EPISODE NEXT WEEK.
IT'S A CLIFFHANGER. ONE OF HIS TELLS WHEN HE'S
MAKING SOMETHING UP IS THAT THERE WILL BE MORE ON THAT IN A
WEEK. YOU KNOW THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
>> HERE IS MY QUESTION, JOE. WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO GO -- IF
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE VOTES WHY WOULD THEY WANT TO GO
ANYWHERE NEAR THE HEALTH CARE AT THIS POINT?
YOU CAN'T OWN IT. MOVE RIGHT TO TAX REFORM.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND STRATEGICALLY.
>> WHY EVEN GO. >> IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.
KASIE HUNT, WHY DOES HE GO BACK? >> IS THERE ANY WAY IT'S
POSSIBLE? >> THIS IS LIKE PUTTING YOUR
HAND ON A STOVE, GETTING BURNED, LOOK AT IT AND GOING, HUH.
AND THEN DOING IT AGAIN AND GOING HUH.
PRESIDENTS KEEP MAKING THIS MISTAKE.
WHY HASN'T TRUMP LEARNED? >> THEY STILL HAVEN'T DONE ANY
OF THE GROUNDWORK EITHER, JOE. WHEN DEMOCRATS ACTUALLY DID PASS
THE ACA, THEY HAD EVERY SINGLE GROUP THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY
GET INTERESTED IN THIS, THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, HEALTH
INSURERS. THEY SPENT MONTHS BUILDING A
COALITION AND STILL BARELY GOT IT THROUGH WITH ONLY DEMOCRATIC
VOTES AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE
LITERALLY NONE OF THAT AT THIS POINT.
THEY WERE SAYING BEFORE THE FIRST PUSH IT DOESN'T MATTER,
WE'RE GOING TO GET IT THROUGH. THAT IS ALL ANYBODY WANTS TO DO.
IT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME EXACTLY WHY THEY HAVEN'T SORTED THROUGH
THAT. MITCH McCONNELL IS REMARKABLY
HONEST ABOUT THIS, TO WHAT DONNY WAS JUST SAYING.
ESSENTIALLY THROWING HIS HANDS UP, SAYING, LOOK, THE DEMOCRATS
ARE GOING TO OWN THIS. HE'S PRETTY BLUNT IT'S NOT GOING
TO HAPPEN. WHY YOU WOULD ASK MEMBERS OF THE
HOUSE TO WALK THE PLANK ON THIS IF THEY KNOW IT'S GOING NOWHERE
IS A LITTLE BEYOND ME. >> MITCH McCONNELL BASICALLY
SAID WHEN DONALD TRUMP WAS SAYING WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK
AND DO IT AGAIN, HE WAS GOING, OH, THAT'S SO CUTE.
MITCH McCONNELL HAS BEEN STRAIGHTFORWARD.
BOB COSTA, AGAIN, THE THING THAT SHOCKS ME -- IT'S GOT TO SHOCK
PEOPLE AT THE CAPITOL -- IS THAT THEY'VE DONE ABSOLUTELY NO
GROUNDWORK ON THIS. THEY HAVEN'T HELD COMMITTEE
MEETINGS. THEY TRIED TO CRAM SOMETHING
THROUGH. THEY TRIED TO MAKE THESE BACK
ROOM DEALS. AND IT IMPACTS ONE-SIXTH OF THE
ECONOMY. WHY CAN'T ANYBODY TELL DONALD
TRUMP, THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AND YOU'RE JUST GOING TO
KEEP EMBARRASSING YOURSELF? >> SOMETHING I PICKED UP IN MY
REPORTING THAT'S PRETTY INTRIGUING ON A POLITICAL POINT.
HOUSE REPUBLICANS RIGHT NOW CAN'T PASS ANYTHING ON HEALTH
CARE IN THE PUBLIC NANARRATIVE, BASED ON MY REPORTING,
REPUBLICANS FEEL LIKE THEY CAN BED FOR NOT GETTING RID OF
OBAMACARE. THEIR WHOLE POINT, IN SOME WAYS,
IN SOME CORNERS OF THE HOUSE IS TO GET IT OUT OF THE SENATE AND
IT GOES TO WHERE THEY CAN RUN AGAINST SENATE DEMOCRATS IN 2018
FOR STOPPING THE BILL. THEY WANT TO GET LEGISLATION OUT
OF THE HOUSE. >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS --
THERE'S NO WAY THIS CAN HAPPEN. HOW IS THIS NOT SEEN AS GIVING
STEVE BANNON ANOTHER FAILURE SO THEY CAN GET HIM OUT THE DOOR?
NO ONE IS SAYING THIS CAN HAPPEN.
>> SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD LOSE THEIR HEALTH CARE THAT THE VERY
PEOPLE ELECTED -- >> SEEMS LIKE A WASTE OF TIME.
>> LOSE/LOSE EITHER WAY. >> WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR
THE HILL, JORDAN FABIAN ASKED THE PRESIDENT YESTERDAY WHAT'S
MORE IMPORTANT ON HIM, VOTE ON HEALTH CARE OR VOTE TO KEEP THE
GOVERNMENT OPEN? JORDAN JOINS US NOW.
WHAT WAS HIS ANSWER? >> MIKA, HE WANTS BOTH.
THAT'S WHAT HE SAID. HE WANTS BOTH.
THAT'S THE SENSE OF DONALD TRUMP RIGHT THERE.
HE WANTS THE WINS ON EVERYTHING. AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS
WHOLE TIME, THE CALENDAR, PRACTICAL REALITIES OF GETTING
BOTH THINGS DONE NEXT WEEK IS VERY HARD.
I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IMPOSSIBLE BUT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT.
THERE'S NOT EVEN AGREEMENT RIGHT NOW ON A BILL TO KEEP THE
GOVERNMENT OPEN. AND THERE'S BEEN SOME REALLY
INTENSE NEGOTIATIONS BEHIND THE SCENES OVER THINGS LIKE BORDER
WALL FUNDING AND FUNDING FOR SANCTUARY CITIES.
THAT'S NOT EVEN A SETTLED MATTER.
THEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING MAJOR HEALTH CARE BILL ON TOP OF
THAT ALL IN THE NEXT WEEK. IT WILL BE A VERY DIFFICULT
UPHILL CLIMB FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS.
>> BOB COSTA, IS THE GOVERNMENT GOING TO SHUT DOWN?
>> NO. BASED ON MY REPORTING THEY'LL
COME BACK TO WASHINGTON AND PASS SOME SHORT-TERM FUNDING BILL AS
THEY GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. THERE'S NO DEAL ON THE LONG-TERM
SPENDING PACKAGE. BUT THEY CAN DELAY THE SHUTDOWN
BY HAVING A PIECE OF LEGISLATION TO GET THEM THROUGH.
>> I WANT TO THROW OUT THAT ARGUABLY ALL THIS TROUBLE ABOUT
TRYING TO REPEAL AND REPLACE AFFIRMS THE IMPORTANCE.
I REMEMBER SITTING HERE IN 2012 WHEN JOHN ROBERTS WROTE THE
OPINION UPHOLDING THE TAX PROVISION OF OBAMACARE.
ONCE YOU INTRODUCE A BENEFIT, EVEN IF IT REPRESENTS BENEFITS
TO A SOMEWHAT LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE, IT IS INCREDIBLY
DIFFICULT IN THE AMERICAN POLITICAL CULTURE TO EVER TAKE
IT AWAY. >> THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, WILLIE,
BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE OF WHETHER THIS PASSES OR NOT,
ANYTHING THAT GUTS THE MEDICAID PROVISIONS OF THIS LAW WILL
NEVER -- -- AND I MEAN EVER -- THROUGH THE UNITED STATES
SENATE. THAT IS JUST -- WRITE IT DOWN.
SO THEY'RE JUST PLAYING WITH THEMSELVES IN THE HOUSE, PLAYING
SORT OF INTERMURAL BALL IF THEY'RE TRYING TO PASS ANYTHING
THAT GUTS THE MEDICAID PART. >> WHICH WAS THE CASE A MONTH
AGO. HOUSE WAS HAVING THIS
CONVERSATION AND SENATORS WOULD SAY THIS ISN'T GOING TO PASS THE
SENATE. JORDAN, THIS COMPROMISE THEY'RE
TALKING ABOUT, IT KEEPS THE ESSENTIAL HEALTH BENEFITS BUT
ALLOWS STATES A WAIVER ON HEALTH BENEFITS.
EFFECTIVELY THEY'RE SAYING YES, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT, UNLESS
YOU DON'T WANT TO KEEP IT. >> RIGHT.
YOU TALK TO FOLKS LIKE CONGRESSMAN DONALDSON FROM NEW
YORK, WHO WE SPOKE TO YESTERDAY. HE SAID THIS IS JUST A WOLF IN
SHEEP'S CLOTHING. THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY STRIPPING
OUT THE HEALTH BENEFITS BECAUSE STATES GOVERNED BY REPUBLICANS
CAN SAY WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. IT'S DRIVING UP PREMIUMS TOO
HIGH. THERE ARE A LOT OF LOOPHOLES.
YOU'RE TWEAKING THE LANGUAGE A LITTLE BIT BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL
PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF LAWMAKERS IS STILL THERE.
>> POLITICAL PLAY BOOK POINTS OUT THIS FACT.
NOT ONE PERSON IN THE SENIOR LEADERSHIP WHITE HOUSE WHO HAS
PASSED A BILL IN CONGRESS. NOT ONE.
>> THAT'S LITERALLY, BOB COSTA, LIKE WINNING A BID TO BUILD A
90-STORY SKYSCRAPER IN NEW YORK CITY AND NOT HAVING ONE PERSON
IN MANAGEMENT THAT'S EVER BUILT A BUILDING BEFORE.
WHERE IS THEIR McMASTER FOR DOMESTIC POLICY, WHO ACTUALLY
UNDERSTANDS THE HOUSE, WHO UNDERSTANDS THE SENATE AND
UNDERSTANDS -- >> RELATIONSHIPS.
>> -- BETWEEN THE TWO. >> MARK SHORT HAS THE MOST
EXPERIENCE ON LEGISLATION, ADVISER SO VICE PRESIDENT PENCE.
OF COURSE, THE VICE PRESIDENT IS PRETTY OCCUPIED WITH FOREIGN
POLICY AND HIS FOREIGN TRIP. THE CHALLENGE FOR CONGRESSIONAL
LEADERS, JOE -- I'M SURE YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THIS AS A
FORMER MEMBER. CONGRESS MEMBERS FEEL LIKE THE
WHITE HOUSE -- MANY WHOM I'VE SPOKEN TO -- IS CONDUCTING ITS
OWN NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE FREEDOM CAUCUS THINKING THAT
RYAN AND McCONNELL CAN'T BE COUNTED ON TO CLOSE THE DEAL.
THE WHITE HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE THESE DEEP TIES TO CONGRESS AND
THE FREEDOM CAUCUS. AS MUCH AS THEY GIVE THE FREEDOM
CAUCUS WHAT THEY WANT ON HEALTH CARE, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU GO
TO THE RIGHT YOU LOSE SOME VOTES IN THE CENTER.
CAN WHATEVER THE WHITE HOUSE ENDS UP DOING ON HEALTH CARE
PASS BECAUSE THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND IN THE HOUSE'S VIEW
WHERE THE VOTES ARE AND WHAT THE WHIP COUNT IS.
>> THE QUESTION IS, AND LIKE WE ASKED WHEN IS THE PRESIDENT
GOING TO LEARN THAT YOU CAN'T ATTACK THE INTEL COMMUNITY, THAT
YOU CAN'T SAVAGE THE PRESS, THAT YOU CAN'T FIGHT ALL THESE
INSTITUTIONS THAT WILL FIGHT YOU BACK?
WHEN IS THE PRESIDENT GOING TO UNDERSTAND HE NEEDS TO PICK UP
THE PHONE AND CALL MITCH McCONNELL AND SAY, MR. MAJORITY
LEADER, I NEED TO PASS A BILL THROUGH THE SENATE.
HOW DO I DO IT? >> JOE, YOU SAID MANY TIMES
EVERY OUTSIDER COMES TO WASHINGTON AND SAYS I'M GOING TO
PLAY OUTSIDE BALL. I DON'T NEED THE INSIDE.
AND THEY GET SWALLOWED UP. >> THEY ALWAYS LOSE.
>> IT'S THAT SIMPLE. YOU LITERALLY HAVE SAID THAT 100
TIMES AND YOU'RE WATCHING IT HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.
>> FOR DONALD TRUMP, THIS WOULD BE, MIKA, LIKE A GUY THAT
DEVELOPED BUILDINGS IN OMAHA COMING TO NEW YORK CITY ONE DAY
AND GOING, I'M GOING TO BUILD SKYSCRAPERS IN NEW YORK, BUT I'M
NOT GOING TO PLAY BY MANHATTAN'S RULES.
SCREW THE MAYOR. SCREW THE UNIONS.
SCREW THE BUILDING AUTHORITIES. >> THE CODES.
>> SCREW EVERYBODY. SCREW THE CODES.
SCREW EVERYBODY. I'M GOING TO DO IT MY OWN WAY
AND I'M GOING TO BUILD THE BIGGEST SKYSCRAPERS IN NEW YORK
CITY HISTORY. AND I'M NOT GOING TO -- THE HELL
WITH THE MAYOR, THE HELL WITH THE PAPERS.
TO HELL WITH THE TIMES AND THE UNIONS -- WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO
THAT GUY? WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THAT GUY?
>> I THINK WE'RE WATCHING. >> WE'RE WATCHING.
THE SAME THING HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON, D.C.
FROM A GUY WHO THINKS THAT HE CAN RESET THE RULES OF A TOWN
THAT HAS LIVED BY A SET OF RULES FOR 240 YEARS.
YOU CAN'T DO IT. MADISON AND HAMHAMILTON, JOHN, Y
KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING AND THEY BUILT A CONSTITUTION THAT
CAN WITHSTAND ANYBODY THINKING THEY CAN DO AN END RUN AROUND
US. >> DON'T BORE US.
>> MIKA IS UPSET THAT -- >> YOU CANNOT BRING UP MARTIN
VAN BUREN, FRENCH AND INDIAN WAR OR --
>> SHADES REBELLION. >> STAY AWAY FROM.
>> EXACTLY. AND MY QUESTION IS, HERE WE HAVE
SOMEONE WHO PRIDES HIMSELF ON DEALING WITH HIS PRAGMATISM?
IF HE WANTED TO MASTER THE NEW YORK MEDIA AND NEW YORK TABLOID
WORLD HE HIRED ROY COHN. >> JARED'S NEVER BEEN DOWN TO
WASHINGTON, IVANKA HASN'T BEEN DOWN TO WASHINGTON.
THEY DON'T KNOW WASHINGTON JUST LIKE I DON'T KNOW DEVELOPMENT IN
NEW YORK CITY. >> IF YOU WANT TO DO A PANEL
THEY'RE GREAT. >> I CAN TELL YOU THIS.
IF I WERE GOING TO BUILD A 90-STORY SKYSCRAPER, I WOULD GET
THE SMARTEST PEOPLE, THE BEST LOBBYISTS, THE BEST ARCHITECTS,
THE BEST BUILDERS AND I WOULD BRING THEM IN AND SAY I NEED TO
BUILD A -- I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS.
YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS. >> TALK TO ME.
>> WHAT'S THE FIRST THING I NEED TO DO?
>> NOT HIS MANAGEMENT STYLE. THOSE THREE OR FOUR GUYS HE HAS
SURROUNDED HIMSELF WITH ON FOREIGN POLICY --
>> HE HAS DONE IT ON FOREIGN POLICY.
>> AND TAKE THAT INTO DOMESTIC POLICY.
>> BOB COSTA, WHY CAN'T HE DO THAT IN DOMESTIC POLICY?
>> I THINK THERE ARE INFLUENTIAL NAMES AROUND.
>> THAT'S ALL TO HIS CREDIT. HE HAS SELECTED THEM.
WHY WON'T HE SELECT SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON DOMESTIC POLICY?
>> IT'S THE QUESTION, JOE. HERE IS THE NAME TO WATCH.
HOUSE MAJORITY LEADER KEVIN McCARTHY.
PAUL RYAN IS THE HOUSE SPEAKER. THEY HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH
THE WHITE HOUSE. SO DOES McCONNELL, MAJORITY
LEADER. I'M TOLD FROM PEOPLE AT THE
WHITE HOUSE AND THE HILL THAT McCARTHY HAS BEEN ABLE TO BUILD
A RAPPORT WITH TRUMP. IT'S NOT ALWAYS EASY, LAWMAKERS
SAID. McCARTHY, WHO HELPED TO RECRUIT
THESE YOUNGER MEMBERS IN 2010, TELLS THE PRESIDENT STORIES
ABOUT MEMBERS IN ALMOST AN LBJ STYLE.
WHAT'S THE WAY TO GET THIS GUY OR THIS WOMAN?
HOW DO YOU BRING PEOPLE ALONG? I'M TOLD McCARTHY, MORE THAN
ANYONE RIGHT NOW, IS TRYING TO GUIDE THE PRESIDENT THROUGH THIS
JUNGLE OF THE U.S. HOUSE. >> I LOVE THE HOUSE.
I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE TOLD YOU GUYS.
I WAS ONCE A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE.
>> OH, MY LORD. >> REALLY?
>> YES, HE WAS IN CONGRESS. >> HERE IS THE DEAL.
GET SOMEBODY FROM THE SENATE. GET SOMEBODY -- PASS THE BILL
THROUGH THE SENATE FIRST. THEN PASS IT THROUGH THE HOUSE
WILL BE EASY. >> ALWAYS GO THROUGH THE SENATE
FIRST. >> GET YOU A SEN SENATOR WHO KN
HOW TO GET 51 VOTE. >> LIKE WHO?
WHO WOULD IT SNB. >> I DON'T KNOW.
>> LET ME THINK. >> CLOSEST TO DAVID PURDUE OF
GEORGIA, BUT HE AS NOT IN THE LEADERSHIP.
>> NO. >> GET A RETIRED MEMBER, LIKE
TRENT LOTT, WHO WORKED FOR DASCHLE.
I'M NOT SAYING HE WILL. WHO KNOWS.
SOMEBODY LIKE THAT, TRENT LOTT, FORMER MAJORITY LEADER WHO
ACTUALLY DEALT WITH TOM DASCHLE AROUND THE CLOCK AND FIGURED OUT
HOW TO PASS THINGS.
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