Welcome to the American Intelligence Media, the home of the Anonymous Patriots.
I am your host, Douglas Gabriel.
Today we have with us one of our favorite friends.
He is the founder and CEO of Leader Technologies, and he has been working with us in so many
areas.
It's so exciting to have him here today.
I just want to reach out and thank you for making the effort to come up here to the studios
for us, Michael McKibben.
Great to be here, thank you.
People who know us know that we've already done a number of videos with Michael, and
some very amazing audios.
I guess some people are responding to some of the ones that we recently did.
Somehow Michael corners me and asks me questions.
He reverses the table.
I don't know why he gets away with that, but I think Betsy's in on it.
I think there's a conspiracy, to be quite frank with you.
But, Michael is here today because we are going to talk about the thing that everybody
keeps saying: Okay, we know your story, and I am going to tell it in a very quick nutshell
in a second.
But, what can we do?
What can we do to help?
You've been saying it all along, but it kind of goes over people's head because it's such
a bizarre simple solution to so many, many big problems.
Not only the problems with them stealing your intellectual property, you can give the exact
right terms, but the ideas that you discovered that then became the capacity for the Internet
to be scalable.
So, that opens up all the different Silicon Valley industries that took advantage of,
basically stealing your patent, more or less as the way that I would put it in simple terms,
so we're going to talk about that.
Because, you have come up with a brilliant idea called The Miller Act where, literally,
Donald Trump could simply order the Treasury Department to take a look at your bill that
you're presenting, and in so doing you could collapse the entire monopoly of Silicon Valley
Boy Kings.
You could in fact reconstitute the PsyOps [psychological operations] of Facebook, of
Google, of Gmail, of YouTube, all of them, completely, because it all comes back to the
theft of your technology by IBM, through a group they called the IBM Eclipse Foundation.
When they say Eclipse it's because they eclipsed your technology, and that's the saddest thing.
So we'll go into a little summary in a minute.
Let's just hear what can people do to help.
That's what they want to hear.
They've been begging us [to know] how can they can help your cause.
In big picture terms, we have discovered that the government has spent 17 years distributing
our technology to the entire tech world, including all the agencies, and has had free use of
our invention ever since it was discovered by them in the year 2000.
By government, you mean, not only IBM, government?
The government itself.
But, IBM is basically also an extension of the government per se.
Right?
That's what we've discovered -- that the technology base that the government was intending to
use for The Internet of Things was run by IBM, with help from Microsoft, and Cisco,
and all the others.
It was intended to be a global control system.
The solution that our shareholders came up with, I can't take credit for [it, was this].
We looked at: How does the government pay vendors when the vendors have not been paid?
What we discovered is that the government can't have liens put on it like a contractor
would if [the government] is not paying its subcontractors.
But the government passed a law called The Miller Act.
The Miller Act allows two tiers of unpaid contractors to a government project to be
paid by submitting a notice called The Miller Act notice to the government agency that benefited
from the technology.
And, as a result, put that [Miller Act notice] forward as a claim to the government.
And, the government is then obliged to pay it, if the government has benefited from that
technology, whether there was a contract or not.
That's what most people don't realize.
Everybody tries to play this game that, oh well, you didn't have an official contract,
you didn't have signatures.
No, that's not the rule.
The rule is if benefit has been received by the beneficial party, then they are obliged
to pay the people that they receive the benefit from.
And that's us.
This is an unprecedented situation.
So, you talked about some of the results of what this could do.
We're not out to change anybody else's business.
Now, that may happen, but we're not out to change their business.
We're out to protect our interests in our business.
So, that�s why we put The Miller Act forward.
We discovered a� Win-Win-Win scenario.
We discovered that the government itself was the party who stole our technology.
There's never been a situation like this where the executive branch of the government stole
somebody's invention, distributed it out to the whole planet, and then has allowed their
fascist corporate partners, plus all the government, to benefit from that technology without paying
for it.
It's never happened before.
So, we were looking at an unprecedented situation.
Our shareholders, in brainstorming sessions, asked how can we (a) get paid, and (b) what
we can do to help fix the problems that this created.
Well, one of the big problems that this situation created is complete control of the Free Press.
What we now see, and I think it's pretty common knowledge, the Free Press is totally controlled
by this cabal of people who stole our invention.
So, what we've said is, Mr. President, please pay us for 17 years of free use, license our
technology going forward, and what we are willing to do is take the cash that is going
to be paid to us and put that back into developing a truly Free Press to hold the powerful accountable.
This is so topical.
It's so important now because everywhere you look you can see that Facebook is being attacked
because they admit that they are a PsyOps [Psychological Operations] program that was
weaponized by the United States government.
That has, in fact, been subsidized by the NSA, and that in fact, they don't really sell
that many ads.
It's a complete fake.
Why did the United States government use Facebook, Google, YouTube, Instagram, and these other
groups.
That just suddenly, magically appeared as soon as Leader Technologies took the step
that was really, in a novices mind like mine, was the quantum leap for scalability to be
able to go global with the Internet.
They could do it on a small scale, in my understanding, but it couldn't be done on a large scale.
And so, you're a revolutionary discovery needs to simply be paid for.
Now, can Trump do that?
Of course you can do that.
Anybody can turn in a bill to the United States government, and say, I rendered these services
to you, and so you owe me this.
And they should look and say, Well, okay, yeah, I guess you did.
[For example] Look, you built that bridge for us.
That can be done after the fact, no contract, exactly, as you've described.
But, it's the Win-Win-Win scenario that makes me so excited.
Because, this could be as simple as the following.
We already see from his [President Trump�s] December 22, 2017 executive order, that Trump
seems to be using the Treasury and U.S. Marshals to go beyond the Department of Justice and
the FBI, just get straight to business.
So, he could again use the Treasury.
Use the Intelligence Agency, the Office of Intelligence and Analysis for the Treasury,
take a look at your bill and say, well you know what?
Not only do we need to pay this company [Leader Technologies], but we also need to take down
the monopolies that have arisen out of this, which are, in fact, a terrorist economic national
security threat.
That's all he has to do, he has to recognize it for what it is, and that is what it is.
If you don't recognize Jeff Bezos as an attack on American retail, if you don't understand
that Facebook was a C.I.A.
PsyOps, then you're just not reading the news.
Because, they're all admitting it.
Their top CEOs, as you full well, know, have come out and admitted these things.
They say, �we don't let our children anywhere near it.� Because why?
It was turned into a weaponized forum of what your company [Leader Technologies] had developed
to give out free information.
Think about it.
We could go back to the original idea of your patents, or copyrights, your intellectual
property, and say this was the idea, we're paying you for, whether it's through certification,
or whatever, the people who [stole it will] then really will be paying that?
the ones who stole it from you.
Those companies probably will fold, and someone will need to take it over.
They will have to be dismantled because they have all the backdoors in them.
They have all the spyware in them.
They have the commercialization that sells your �Black Profile� to everyone.
So, what you're saying is that in one fell swoop, Donald Trump could simply pay your
bill, and it is [then] possible that this could take down the criminality of the Patent
Office.
It would take down Silicon Valley�s fake military-supported digital warfare weaponized
companies that were really built� without your technology they could not have done what
has come to be.
They went the wrong direction with it.
So, in one fell swoop you're saying, what you say is that The Miller Act notice, very
humbly, could, in fact, change our entire economy, the entire world economy, in fact,
and could put it back into where it was supposed to be -- that information is supposed to be
free to give people freedom.
It's supposed to give them liberty.
It�s supposed to empower them, instead of information being used to weaponize against
them.
So, I salute The Miller Act proposal that you have.
Thank you, and take that compliment on behalf of the shareholders who helped develop it.
But, this is like ripples in a pond.
What we discovered is that this Miller Act notice was a very legal claim that we can
make to the branch of the government that caused this theft to occur.
What we recognized is that nobody had really ever dealt with the kind of scale that we
are talking about.
So, at first we started saying, Well, my gosh, we're talking about many trillions of dollars,
because we've never been paid and everybody's had the benefit of it.
Every cell phone has got something like 28 or 30 [social] apps that people use every
day.
Every one of those apps is infringing our patent.
So, we looked at it in terms of, okay, what are we owed as a technical reality?
And the number was huge.
So, what we said was, let's break this up, and put it into two pieces.
One, a $40 billion-dollar piece for the history.
Now that�s way under what the number should be.
But, going forward, let's say, okay, we�ve got a problem.
The whole market has a problem.
Most people use these apps every day -- what we invented.
[They] don't pay anything, and when you ask them, do you realize that you're using stolen
technology, they are shocked.
They don't know.
And when you say that the person who, the company that, invented this was never paid,
they say, well, where do we pay?
How much is it going to cost us?
We've come up with a number of two dollars per user per month as an ongoing payment.
That number works out to something like 300 billion dollars a year for ongoing licenses.
And then, we started looking further and said, okay let's also give every user of this technology
a license for everything they're doing.
So, all of a sudden, everyone on the planet that's stolen our technology, whether they
knew it or not, then becomes legal, including the thieves
Is that like certifying them?
It's a license.
When you buy a piece of software, you get a license with it, and that gives you a legal
copy of the license.
None of that's been licensed [Leader�s invention] because the original thieves put out this
meme, this propaganda, that it [Leader�s invention] was all open source.
That was a total fabrication.
It was never open source.
When IBM first put it out through The Eclipse Foundation, they actually took the header
code off of our code and actually put their copyright notice in it.
I mean, it's just unbelievably scandalous Your 17 years of legal battles with this cabal...
we like to list them, because it's the same group of criminals in Washington, D.C. right
now.
You�re talking about John Podesta, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, Hillary Clinton,
Bill Clinton, James Chandler, Stephen Crocker, Michael Kappas ...
David Kappos.
David Kappos, Larry Summers, I forgot him last time.
How can I forget Larry Summers?
These people have been doing this for so long, since the early 90s, and unfortunately, Michael
and his company have been struggling with them for 17 years, not really knowing how
powerful they were.
These people have come to light now ... We didn't have any of those names on our radar
screen.
We just knew the courts were misbehaving.
The courts weren't following the law.
We had the one person�s name, James Chandler Right, who seemed to be the kingpin and the
linchpin of the entire thing.
Right?
Right.
Yes, we thought, well, on paper he [Chandler] was the expert in the country on trade secrets,
intellectual property, economic espionage, inventions, patents.
He was on the National Security Council.
He wrote the laws.
. . so he could break them.
He wrote the Federal Trade Secrets Act, and Economic Espionage Act of 1996.
You sat with this man again and again, and he basically stole your patent.
In the Miller Act notice there's a picture of him [Chandler] attending one of our product
design meetings in early 2000.
There he was learning about all of our technology, and how we were going to approach scalability
in the Internet.
Essentially, that is proof of the collaboration that occurred.
They took all that information, and while he was working with us to file patents, they
are taking the code [our social networking invention] and distributed it to the whole
planet.
So by the time we found out that this is what had happened, the whole market had been established.
I mean, if you look back at the history of social networking, it really exploded in 2004,
after a conference that IBM Eclipse sponsored between on February 2-5, 2004 in San Francisco
called EclipseCon2004.
That was when the cabal pushed our code out to the whole market.
Americans for Innovation has put together more evidence than I've ever seen on any particular
case.
So for 17 years you've been working with your shareholders, with lawyers, with patent lawyers,
just fighting this battle against the same group of people that, again and again, rear
their ugly heads and show themselves as insider traders who have become filthy rich over,
in fact, stealing patents like yours.
But, yours [Leader�s invention] was one that became probably the largest impact in
our modern digital age.
So, I love the idea of The Miller Act.
It's a Win-Win-Win scenario.
I love the idea that if this could take place, we could actually see, perhaps, the crumbling
of this entire edifice of the fake Silicon Valley.
So, the question that people have is, is there anything else they can do?
Do you need money to support legal concerns?
Or, I don't know, what is it that other people can do besides get the word out?which has
been amazing, by the way, with the videos that we did together.
They�ve been very helpful, thank you.
They've spread far and wide.
A lot of people have been discussing this.
But, is there anything else that people can do for Leader Technologies.
Could they approach your company if they wish to support you?
Let me focus my answer on the big picture need.
The big picture need is for everyone in the country who believes that the rule of law
should apply to the use of social networking, all over the planet, should ask President
Trump to consider writing the check to Leader Technologies, to pay us for the last 17 years.
And, to license our technology going forward.
The President has the authority to fix this.
So, the other issue is how do you in Republic ... I think this is the other aspect of [the
theft of] our technology.
It was used, basically, to hide the misconduct of the powerful through social media, through
all these memes, all of the psychological warfare, all of the propaganda that has been
pushed out.
I think the way we fix that [is by re-implementing] an idea the Founders had for a truly for Free
Press.
The Free Press, in theory, is supposed to hold the powerful accountable.
But, as we have seen, our mainstream media has been bought by these people.
So, they're nothing more than propaganda machines.
What we need to do is re-establish [a truly Free Press].
What we�re willing to do is say, Mr. President, [when] you get us paid, we're willing to start,
is to use that cash to help develop a truly Free Press through the alternative media?the
alternative media is just exploding right now, but it lacks resources.
So, what can happen in this one [Miller Act notice] check that you write, we can then
see hundreds of billions of dollars a year in investment and cash going out to these
companies that helps develop a truly Free Press that is not beholden to all of these
power brokers that have taken over our economy.
So, your shareholders could be made right.
Yes.
You could rectify the situation [regarding getting social users legal with a blanket
license].
Yes.
Everyone could actually make a ton of money.
Yes.
The criminals who have, in fact, stole this from you could be held accountable.
The Patent Office could be re-established and the national emergency that Trump has
declared would actually be the platform upon which he could do this.
And, he could, in fact, just as you say, sign the check.
So, we have supported you from our angle in trying to get the word out.
And, we're doing everything we can to do exactly what you asked to get the word straight up
the line to the President, to the people in Washington who have the power to act and pay
Leader Technologies what was stolen from them.
So Michael, thank you for being here again.
Thank you for having me.
Always a pleasure, thank you.
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