This is DeliveranceMinistry.FM video cast, episode six.
Hello everybody.
Once again, welcome
to another episode of Deliverance Ministry.FM, where we give you proven insights about the
demonic realm and deliverance ministry so you can wage spiritual warfare more effectively.
This is Dr Don Ibbitson and I'm here with my colleague and coworker Dr Phyllis Tarbox,
and today we're going to look at another open door for demonic torment in a person's life,
and this deals with the realm of controlling people.
What we would call controllers are controlling people, how they can open the doors for demonic
torment.
Now we can all relate in this world to people who are controlling, and and many times these
people will get us to do things we don't want to do.
They can hurt us, they can wound us.
We understand that in the natural, but as we're going to explain, there are spiritual
applications of that as well as spiritual implications of that.
We have these kinds of relationships in our life.
It can provide an entry point for the demonic realm.
Detour medicine.
We've talked in other podcasts about the demonic realm that nature, the demonic realm, how
they work.
They're here to kill, steal, and destroy these creative beings and that they they have entry
points or open doors into are solely.
Just can't jump on a person.
You can't catch a demon from somebody in and we've talked about how getting born again,
I'm getting saved doesn't necessarily mean that the demons leave you.
Her leave us that many times.
They need to be driven out and that's the realm of deliverance ministry and we've touched
on some of the different open doors.
There's generational curses, word curses or cultic can sexual sin.
We've talked to other ones about how sexual senator, an ungodly soul ties through sexual
sin, opened the door for demonic torments.
Today we're going to look at another topic.
Another aspect is this realm of what we call on godly soul.
Ties can be an open door for first tournament, and so let's begin with kind of a brief recap,
kind of a brief review.
We've touched on it in other podcasts, so we don't want to spend the time to go through
it all again.
But Phyllis, if you would tell everybody what a soul tie is.
And I'm also a, what are, you know, some, some spiritual examples of soul ties.
Well, I think a soul tie, Don, we've, as we've talked about is, is it can be a, it's a bonding
of sorts.
The Bible calls it a bonding, some kind of a godly bonding based on love and respect,
which I think the example that we use is in first Samuel [inaudible] one, which is, um,
is um, David and Jonathan Wright that was a, that was a relationship based on love and
it says their souls or knitted together.
And so that's a good godly bonding in that picture based on love.
But there can also be an ungodly soul tie that's based on, as we're going to talk about
in this, this, this podcast, control, manipulation or influence that's not based on love.
It can be based on, you know, fear or control or anger or anything like that.
Um, and so good.
There's good godly ones.
And now there's ungodly ones.
And so those are the ones that we're going to talk about today.
Are those ungodly bondings based on control?
Well, I think it's important just to emphasize again that this whole realm of soul, what
do we mean by that?
I mean, we talk about the body, soul and spirit model, where a three part being, we have our
body, our physical container or skin, hair, teeth and bones.
Our spirit man is that part of us that kind of leads us and drives us.
If you're like in and uh, we're born again, Bible says, and we'd be, we'd be good.
We get a new spirit that flesh gives birth to flesh.
Spirit gives birth to spirit would get us new spirits, right?
We don't get a new body.
We do get a new spirit rod.
We don't get a new body and we don't get any soul what like to do about body, but that's
what you're talking about.
That challenged going to sign up for that.
Our soul is the part being transformed, renewed.
But that's also the can be the habitation, the experience.
And so that's when we talk about open doors that the spirits are in this soulless realm
and if there is an, what we call these ungodly soul ties that you talked about can happen
between people.
We could pick up spirits from other people and so we've touched on another podcast.
I encourage you to go and listen to those to get a little more information on that.
How that particular thing was a title of a transference can happen through on Gabi Barneys,
but today we're gonna focus on one of the ungodly soul tie types that people can have.
And that is where people have on gun control or.
So if somebody was asking, well, how do I know if somebody has un-godly control over
me?
Or if I have an ungodly soul tie with somebody, what would you tell him, phyllis?
Well, I would, I would tell them it was.
It's usually manifest by what it's producing in you.
If it's somebody that's had influence over you that's been able to oppress you or cause
you to be afraid or you know, have anger or feel like your boundaries have been broken
and you're continually coming underneath this kind of control
it, resentful around them or are you just feel yourself kind of tense up around them.
Right?
Right.
And that, that, that would be a good example, that that is not a godly soul tie, you know,
that certainly is something that's influencing you to have no bad, bad feelings and bad things
going on inside.
It is possible to write the week and we'll talk about we can have an ungodly soul tie
through, control some times with somebody and maybe not even necessarily be aware.
Know.
Yeah, I mean,
if you've grown up with a controlling parent and you're used to being dominated in that
regard, uh, that may be normal for you.
You may actually attract that in the spirit realm.
Know if you, you're a little more submissive or you tend to be a little more cowering,
then you'll attract and the spirit realm.
Just the opposite of that.
Oftentimes with controlling people, you know, that's kind of like a feeding frenzy, you
know, it's not the bank would have the Lord where these people are attracted to it.
It's like there's a marker in the spirit realm where you're going to those spirits, they
didn't want to get fed.
So if you're saying you're submissive and you're a little weaker than in the spirit
realm, there's people that have controlling spirits are going to kind of want to come
and get fed.
They're going to get bigger because of your weakness and then you're, you're cowering
in.
Your submission will get bigger because you're in their presence.
And so it tends to be a badminton thing going back and forth where it just keeps getting
bigger and bigger.
The spirit of what we teach that spirits can grow, they can become more speaking, gets
stronger as you feed them.
You feed a person who they grow, you feed babies, they grow, you feed spirits, they
grow as well and can get more stronger.
Well, there's a scripture, people who weirs were what are, what are, um, evidence is,
or where can I look in scripture to kind of get any kind of an indication of the effective
ungodly soul ties.
And when we, we, we tend to acquaint people to proverbs [inaudible] to a verse 25, right?
Right.
Yeah.
And that one is pretty much about don't make friends with, and I'll say with a hot tempered
me and, or an angry man, um, you, you know, because the, the better part of that is you're
going to pick up your ways and there a possibility.
And I think it's in the new King James version that says you can ensnare yourself anytime
you see an ensnare men of your soul.
It's talking about the enemy getting a hook, so to speak, in you where he can now drive
you from that perspective.
And so if you hang around with angry men and you begin to pick up their angry ted tendencies,
then all of the sudden you're gonna, you know, come into agreement with that spirit of anger
and begin to act like that.
And that was in one of the earlier ones that we did, I believe.
Um, I mentioned that about the bully who was, who had been, you know, bullied, and he became
a bully, right?
Because he picked up that boys ways.
And I think, well, somebody could say, well that's just learn behavior, you know, we just
learned certain things from tier from people and w we just learn how to do that.
But if you think about it a little bit, if you've been brought up in an abusive environment
or you've had things happen to you, people who have been molested many times become molesters.
People who've been abused many times become abusers are born up in an alcoholic.
When we become alcoholics.
Well, if it's just learned behavior, wouldn't you?
For the most part, say, well Gosh, you know, if I, that'd be the last thing I want to do.
I don't want to end up like that.
And, and so there has to be much more to it than just learn behaviors.
I think the scripture that we just brought up talks about are getting our soul ensnared
and that's a spiritual concept.
That's more, it's more than just learning and behaviors and imitating.
There's a spiritual dynamic there.
When our soul gets sneered, I think you know this, this whole concept of godly soul ties
and people having.
I haven't got any control over it.
It's not something that's well understood, right?
People come in, we don't.
We see people who are this whole thing on godly soul ties through controllers, kind
of a new concept for people.
Right?
Is that what you see today?
Yeah.
A lot of people do understand sexual sin, but they don't understand control and domination
and manipulation in the spirit realm and I think that's one of the lovely things that
the enemy likes to get underneath the radar with us, you know, because he don't pick up
on it right away.
He's very deceptive.
It does seem natural.
Like you said, it's the way we've been brought up.
We get desensitized to it and we're not really aware of it, but you know, he's coming in
to sell this stuff in our garden.
We don't necessarily see it and there was a time when these things need to be plucked
out.
Well, it's an asset, we'll talk about it and it's a little bit here about some of the examples
we've seen that when we break these ungodly soul ties with people you see and we call
these spirits, I'll then they go, that was dumb on experience there because of these
findings and it's probably worth reiterating here for people that, yes, we're deliverance
ministries ministers and we're, but we're also licensed Christian counselors.
And there were the first to say that there's not demons behind every problem in a person's
life just because something went bad or they have issues doesn't necessarily mean there's
demons everywhere and devils, but where people can't get the victory over some area of their
life.
Many times those are indicators of demonic strongholds.
And does, you know this, this nature of ungodly bonding with people can, uh, can be an open
door.
So the question is, you're godly soul ties we've talked about is being based on love.
Can you have a godly soul tie in an ungodly soul tie with the same thing?
Oh yes.
I mean, you know, I think we can kind of mentioned that oftentimes with husbands and wives that
you can have a good godly relationship with a husband or a wife that's based on love,
but that you can also have a portion of that that's based on control or domination.
Same thing with, you know, certainly with siblings.
You hear that often.
A lot of brothers and sisters or sisters and sisters that have, you know, they love each
other, but then there's this other side where they just don't get along.
And so you can have both in the same regard.
Same thing with parents.
You know, you love your mom and you love your dad, but if you've got a parent that's like
getting too involved with your life, I think it talks about that.
You know, in Genesis 2:24 that the good godly part would say that man to leave his father
and his mother and hold fast to his wife and they shall become one flesh.
But if you've got a parent that's constantly trying to get involved and get into that marriage
and dominating control, then there could be an ungodly portion to that.
That relationship with a parent.
Well, I think that's a scripture that's worth emphasizing because it does reinforce the
concept, the one flesh we talk about flash being body and so husband and wife or man
or any man or woman can get married.
They become one flesh.
That's a godly soul tie.
But it's.
We've seen many times where a lot of times that people have to get married and the end,
but they still have a one of the.
One of the parents, maybe the mother or the father of one of the partners still has ungodly
control child trying and that it can be a source of great spiritual tournament.
People we need to understand.
Paul says in Ephesians, our struggle is not against flesh and blood and these demonic
spirits will work through people to bring torment upon us.
And that type of [inaudible] Bonnie, where a person allows the grown man or woman allows
their mother and father who's maybe in their fifties, forties, fifties, sixties, still
be controlling them even when they're married to somebody else should be their first Prac.
That's an ungodly soul tie.
And that's a huge open door for demonic torment.
It really is.
Yes.
And that needs to, that needs to get dealt with.
So, so we talked about that scripture.
Proverbs 20 to 25, that's a real important one that, um, that when we have ungodly bondings
with somebody, our soul can get ensnared.
And so that is a spiritual concept for sure.
Now, how do these types of one godly bondings with people like you who have this kind of
control through guilt or fear manipulation?
What, what is there?
How is it that this provides an open door for demonic torment in a person's life?
What do you, what do you, how do you respond to people when they ask that?
Well, they're under the influence of maybe the spirits that are operating in that other
person and they begin to cower, come into agreements, you know, in these, these people
begin to dominate or have authority over them in an ungodly way and they take, they take
advantage of certain things.
Um, you know, one of the examples that I always use about myself was, you know, I know it's
hard for you to believe, but I didn't always roar with power and authority and I used to
kind of cower a little bit.
Um, was a little intimidated, you know, I did grow up with a mom that was very strong
and because of that, um, I learned how to keep the peace and not rock the boat and be
very people pleasing.
And that was my big focus of mine.
So in any event, what happened was, um, I had this ungodly spirit of lake cowering,
I guess is what the Lord would, would tell me it was.
And when I walked into a room, a lot of these controllers or controllers would identify
me very quickly.
I'm one of them ran up to me at one point and said, you know what, the minute I saw
you, I knew you would be my spiritual daughter and you know, long story short with that is
it didn't end up.
Well.
It became a very controlling and I went through deliverance for that, but on the day that
I went through deliverance for that, interesting because I had bought her a cup that had, um,
I actually referred to her as my spiritual mother and that cup was on a shelf and when
I went through deliverance and we broke that ungodly soul tie and we called that spirit
of control and domination that was hovering over me through that relationship, that spirit,
that cup fell off of herself and broke all over her desk that day.
And the very next day she brought it over to me after I came back into the office and
said, I require you to replace this cup.
Um, because it's important to me.
And I thought there is no way.
Ready.
Controlling.
Yeah.
So that you know, that's a picture of how those spirits can actually come over influence
in dominate.
And I have other examples.
Well, I think you touched on something where the person came into the room and approached
you and one of the things we maybe haven't touched on too much, but it's worth emphasizing.
It's spirits and a person can see spirits and another controlling spirit in this woman
could see something in you, maybe rejection or something that would draw drew you two
together that that spirit was looking to work through her to control, you know, that's something
that's worth emphasizing in the spirit realm that spirits can see one another.
And so that's how they get fed.
Yeah, they do.
They do get fed.
And in that spirit, that controlling spirit in another person, it wants to control it,
wants to control others and use these.
I'm Golly bondings you see that is another open door for it could've been operating even
more seriously in your life.
And so it's how do we see this kind of playing?
Where have you yelled or what have you, you know, let's talk about some examples where
you've seen these kinds of, um, un-godly bondings with other people and it can be a myriad of
people obviously, but how that is an open door for demonic torments example
earlier about in proverbs 22 verse 25 about an angry man and uh, and you'll and you'll
see that, you know, I do a lot with the children's ministry and you know, one of the ones that
we referred to in our, one of our other podcasts was about a child that was bullied in and
he became a bully.
And, and, and, and studies are showing that more and more as we kind of see how this is,
I'm revealing itself in the school system.
But there's a point where the bullies, just the children that are bullied just kind of
snap and they've had enough and there is a breaking point in there somewhere where in
their mind they say, I'm not going to take this anymore.
Nobody's going to do this to me.
I am not going to be punished.
I am going to be the punisher.
That point, that's where they really come into agreement because you said, how does,
how does that soul get ensnared there's an agreement in the spirit room with this and
then they, they, they become that punisher and so, you know, I, you know, we talked about
the little boy before that had that happened to him, but I've also had adult women come
in and say to me, yeah, I used to get really pushed around by different people and I became
the bully.
I became the one that became angry and I liked my anger.
My anger made me who I was.
It gave me a shield of protection.
It kept people away from me.
Controllers didn't try to come in and bully me and I had, you know, then I became a.
So not only did that spirit come in, but then she'd be friend did it, and so there was an
ungodly soul tie.
Would that.
I mean, that whole situation became very out of, out of hand.
And so you'll see that with children that are bullied.
I'm also abused wives.
They'll, they'll say this oftentimes in marriage to where they've just absolutely had enough
and they snap and they'll now they begin because, you know, they, you know, it could be that
they had some sort of a cowering spirit in them, but then with the abuse, they become
an abuser and they'll begin to abuse.
I'm back.
So I've seen that with, with, you know, wives or people in relationships with abusive people
where they didn't start out to be hitters or people that beat, but they've been in these
relationships, maybe ungodly sexual relationships with people or they're, they're married to
them now, but they've taken on some of those spirits were they also now are filled with
rage and they become the abusers and we'll see that an awful, awful lot.
He also see abuse daughters and sons that are manipulated and dominated by their parents.
Um, you know, those kinds of things.
There's just a click
might be related to a person's temperament.
How they respond to that bullying.
If they're abused or like you say and mistreated and they turn around.
Cause it could be a function to somebody who's more collaborate, might be more Tennessee
to go that way where somebody who's more melancholy or supine or more passive, they might just
turn all that inside and go down into the realm of addictions and whatnot.
I mean, I think you're right.
I think, you know, one of the ones I've seen that, that, that the one that is gentler and
more passive would then fall with more fear of punishment and perfectionism and striving
and trying to keep, you know, the piece at all costs.
And those people have very, very weak boundaries and then more controlling people will come
in because they identify that they don't have the boundaries and move that looks like a
good source of, you know, feeding.
So yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
What about some other, I mean in the realms of touch on this, we touched on it about them
in terms of addictions.
We have people coming in many times have been battling or battling addictions, substance
abuse issues, many kinds.
I mean, we're, we've seen instances where those on godly soul ties maybe they've had
with people, maybe their suppliers or people or things or whatever has been an open door
for or at least if not midterm point for the torment is certainly helped to feed that tournament.
So could you elaborate on addiction stories?
My, well, I think my favorite one is certainly the young man that came in for one of our
deliverance seminars and he got a, you know, a very good amount of deliverance from coming
into the seminar, but he, he still couldn't stop smoking pot after he went through the
seminar.
So he came back into the office and he said, you know, I'm still struggling with this.
And my question was, did you break the ungodly soul ties with the people that first gave
you the part pot or your dealers or your party friends you all first hung around with and
you, you know, did all this smoking with and kind of looked at me dumbfounded.
And he said, no, you know what?
I never thought about that.
And that's usual, like, especially with a large of knowing that a soul tie can hang
up someone's deliverance like that if it's not addressed.
And so I, I gave him a little time alone in the office where he began to break those soul
ties by himself.
And then when I came back in, um, I called that bound up the straw man of addictive bondage.
I called out a spirit of addiction to smoking and it laughed and he said afterwards, and
you know, I see him, you know, he's rocking and ministry now doing great.
He has not had the temptation or the desire to go back to that lifestyle since.
So it was really wound up with those associations.
City had that really taught him and delivered it to him.
So you're right, when I have a story very similar to that, and it's funny.
Then another young man dealing with part, he was actually married and they were smoking
pot.
I didn't see it as a problem and he didn't really want to quit quite frankly, but it
caused some ongoing issues.
Administering deliverance and came back in a couple of times.
And you've got serious about wanting to be free from the addiction to pot, prayed for
him.
I believe God set them free, but he had a friend, a childhood friend, high school friend
of his that he smoked pot with, regularity he was not willing to do as part of walking
out.
He said, look it, we broke on godly soul, tie between you and your friend, but you're
going to need to stay away from this guy because this guy was addicted to part, a small part
together.
I said, the devils are going to work through him to try to get you back into the pot.
And he was not willing to do that quite frankly.
And then finally the third time, and he said, OK, I get it now right here.
And we did break that on godly soul.
Tie again with him in his pram and committed to keep that ungodly soul tie broken and tag
me in it.
And Him and his wife sometime later and he was doing fine, kind of like you.
He was able to stay free.
But part of it was was breaking that on godly soul.
Tie with that friend of his and keeping it broken.
So that's a big issue in terms of addictions in the same sort of thing in terms of people
are coming on pornography, right?
Who got you introduced to the pornography?
How'd you get into that?
We're who did you get drugs from or whatever.
And the first.
Yeah, exactly.
People that got you into things like from people you smoked with first, people you partied
with first, people you drank with, you know those sorts of things.
They kind of lend to that and then a lot of people don't think about those first, but
if those were the people that got you into that, into that, that, that party, then you
want to break those on godly soul ties with them and like you said about the young man
that didn't want to give up his friends that were influencing him still to do that.
I think oftentimes we can break it in the spirit realm here in the office and call those
spirits out to get them free, but if they don't, if they don't get break those associations
on their own.
You know, my analogy of that is leaving a smoking was leaving a cigarette and an ashtray
right there on your desk.
You're going to have to fight that temptation all the time.
Friends sadly have to go.
I mean the Bible talks about that and so you're going to have to break agreement with, with
some of that.
So you know, it's important.
One of the things that I know the Lord ministered to me about when I was having to walk away
from some of these ungodly soul ties that I mentioned earlier in my life was I had to
take these names even out on my cell phone, Don.
I mean it was wild, but back in the day before he had screen locks, my phone would pocket
dial these people all the time.
So I knew I had to kind of even get them out of my cell phone.
So there wasn't really any.
There's so there's no real connection, you know, out of your email, out of your cell
phone out of here, how do your computer stuff.
So
it's important.
That is.
And, and that's what we're trying to give you a flavor here of how these ungodly Bonnie's
can happen with people we have, golly, bunnies and golly bombings with the same people, but
it's these ungodly ones that can open the door.
So we talked about people dealing and battling addictions.
Um, anytime's lesser perversions or pornography, um, um, family members, right?
And people can have controlling mothers or fathers or siblings and, uh, workers, co-workers,
exactly.
Bosses that can try to manipulate you.
And you know, Boston, there's Gavi control.
You can have our supervisor or boss that has some level of God.
They control, they have some level right to tell you what to do and direct your work,
but it's ungodly if maybe around me, you're fearful or you're afraid.
That once again, they, the thing being that they get you to do things that you do not
want to do.
Mother in Law's father in law's.
That's huge.
As I said, we've touched on that huge marriage situations and family.
Were they basically stepping back, looking from a spiritual standpoint, you have to look
back and see.
It's not that person.
Many times it's the spirits in their spirits, whatever the rejection, anger, control that
spirits want to control you.
It's a spiritual dynamic that's at work and those aren't, golly bombings need to be broken
and we tell you that you can forgive somebody about when you forgive somebody and we break
down godly soul ties, doesn't, we still need proper boundaries and we'll, we'll touch on
that again in a moment.
So any other instances that pop out in terms of examples that were.
You just have to be very careful.
I mean, I know I used to work at the altar at one of the churches that I was at and they
would talk about and some of the children would come up and even say the babysitters
that they had when they were younger, brought things in for them.
You know, they, they were younger.
They kind of vitalize their babysitters.
So they looked up to them and they brought in things like pornography and different things.
I had to open the children up to see this and the kids would say at the altar, um, Miss
Phyllis, I'm still having problems.
And it started really when I was young and my babysitter showed me a lot of this stuff.
So you know, someone that you put up on an idolatrous stand that has influence over you
as well.
Um, it can cause some control, godly control that will come in.
So
that's a good reminder for sure.
OK, well, we've, once again, we've, we, and other podcasts we've gone through some more
specifics about dealing with these are godly soul ties.
And I encourage you to listen to those.
But Phyllis, just succinctly, what do we tell people about breaking on godly soul ties?
It's easy.
It's easy.
You just need to speak it out into the airwaves.
You know, it's not, it's not something that you can speak in your mind, you know the enemy
can't read, he can't read your mind.
So you need to speak it out loud into his airway.
Satan is the prince of the airwaves to make that proclamation and just say, I break and
sever every ungodly soul tie with and speak the persons name out loud in the name and
blood of Jesus Christ.
And it is broken.
It's canceled.
It's as simple as making that declaration simple.
Is it simple as speaking about it?
Really?
It is.
I mean salvation set simple and so, you know, this shouldn't be complicated either, but
now there is the element of getting deliverance for those spirits that came in, like you have
said earlier, sometimes just breaking the ungodly soul tie does deliver the person,
but oftentimes people need more than that.
Exactly.
So that's how you break them.
Now, in terms of, of um, keeping on godly soul faced, broken with people who aren't
godly control, control over you.
What, what, what does a person need to do to keep them broken?
Well, they need to stay out from underneath that control and that manipulation.
You know, certainly once you go through deliverance, I think once you've broken these soul ties,
you're not going to be driven or compelled to please these people.
You'll notice those going to be a shift with that and then to keep those boundaries.
I think having the boundaries up and not allowing these people to come in and over match themselves
on you and you, and it'll be clearer for you.
You'll really be able to see it.
One of the things I'm amazed that so many years in deliverance and counseling is, is
how little people understand about boundaries or maybe they've read it or they've heard
about it, but they don't do it.
They don't know how to do it and it's like buying a book on skydiving, but if you never,
you know, don't jump out of a plane.
You're limited benefit there.
And so we, we talk a lot or I talk with people about boundaries and how do you do that and
I always recommend for people and I'd recommend if anyone is listening to this podcast to
pick up a book called boundaries.
It's by cloud and Townsend and they've got actually a series of books, very well written,
you know, practical stuff on how to implement boundaries and much more to it than we have
time to talk about here today.
But basically it means having boundaries in your life that you set up for your thoughts,
your activities, what you're going to do and the consequences for people when they cross
those boundaries.
And so that's important because you touched on keeping the boundaries in place, people
and people who have had on control over us, we need to learn how to say no
to them because those people tend to cause the guilt and shame and then try to pull you
in.
That kind of reopen the doors for the torment, right?
That's, that's so important.
So once again, I know it's easy to say, but it's easier to say than it is to do sometimes,
but it's so important now that you know, a life without boundaries, if you don't have
proper boundaries in your life, knowing when to say yes when to say no, your life will
be in chaos and apart in the natural realm part from opening the doors for open, demonic,
stormy, because people will use you.
They will walk over you, even those you love.
Um, we'll try to do that.
Soul ties, un-godly bonds with people need to get broken and needs to stay broken.
Boundaries.
Kim?
Yes.
Any
one or two things, phyllis, as we begin to conclude this podcast that you'd like to kind
of emphasize in terms of, I've got this taste providing an open door for demonic tournament.
Yeah.
I just want to encourage people to know that it, you know, in the spirit realm, it, they're
very easy to break and then, like you said, to get out from underneath that influence
is something that needs to be taught and practiced and learned, um, a different type of behavior
so that they're not walking around constantly having to feel like they need to fulfill the
will of others with guilt and shame and being controlled or manipulated or angry or all
several things that we've brought up.
But it, it's not complicated.
It's just, it just starts taking, walking it out.
And you know, God is faithful to show you how to do that.
It's not like you have to figure it all out before you come in.
You know, he'll walk you.
The Holy Spirit will walk you through this.
I mean, I was bound to underneath this and God was very faithful to walk me out.
Um, and to have that identification, even now before I walk into a room with a lot of
the spirits that could be an operation, and so I would encourage people
to do this.
I feel personally so strongly about boundaries are and the concept of having proper boundaries
that if somebody doesn't have them in their life with somebody right now, that would be
a reason for me not to pray deliverance for them right away.
Because if you're not willing to break these ungodly soul ties with people and keep them
broken, then you're going to be very difficult to stay friends because you know an issue
because the Bible warns the spirits whenever they get set free from.
It talks about in matthew that the spirits are going to try to come back to the house
and so staying three's important and if somebody has somebody in their life who has that ungodly
soul tie that bonding with her under control and they're not willing to do the things to
stay free, then that's a red flag for me because they literally could end up worse than they
were before.
This scripture kind of warns us on that, so this concept of breaking soul ties that nobody
has ungodly control over us, very, very important in terms of preparing people for deliverance
ministry.
And so, um, like I say, hopefully this podcast will help maybe some people with the concept
of ungodly soul ties, what they are, how to break them in, and why it's important.
So again, we hope you've enjoyed this podcast, but very much love to hear from you.
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