-Welcome back.
-I'm actually more used to sitting here across from you
than I am seeing you out in the real world.
-I know. -It's strange.
-It's very strange, yeah, because we've been lucky enough
to run into each other in the real world,
but it's been a while.
But you did -- you actually got
to hang out with my son this summer.
-Ashe.
-Yeah, because you and Mary are friends with my in-laws.
-Yes.
-And you were at a sporting event
that my wife brought my 2-year-old son to.
-Pig racing. -Pig racing.
This is a true thing.
-Yeah, mini pigs. Like, many mini pigs in a race.
And they even had a trough that had water in it.
So they'd race a couple times, then jump in and swim.
And the motivation was a plate -- true -- of Oreos.
-Really?
That's how you get a pig to run? -Yeah. Yeah.
-And, so, do they run around a track? A lap?
-Once. -Okay.
-So it's like, "And they're off!"
Wasn't that great?"
-So that seems like -- -But let's go back to Ashe.
-Yeah. -What a wonderful young man.
-Wonderful young man.
And I will tell you, though,
he's a wonderful kid and I love him,
but he told me about the pig race,
and there were almost none of those details.
As a 2-year-old, basically all he could tell me
was they were pigs.
-You want to know why? -Why?
-Because he blocked it.
Because to be entertaining with such a short race,
the guy who had the pigs made up all these horrible names,
like Baco Bits and Little Bacon Running,
you know, and things like that.
And I'm sure it just, you know, horrified him.
-Yeah, well, 'cause that's a real reminder
to the children there that these will eventually be food.
-Yeah.
-"And, by the way, we're eating all of them, even the winner.
Like, nobody can run their way out of their fates here, yeah."
-Oreo-basted pig.
-If you taste a piece of bacon
that has a little bit of Oreo in it, that was your winner.
Yeah, that was your winner.
Look, any one of the Emmys is a winner,
so I don't want this to be hard on you,
but you were nominated for an Emmy.
-That was good. I almost believed that.
-Yeah, so, you were at the Emmys.
-Yes, I was.
-Nominated for your work on "The Good Place,"
as well you should be.
How was your Emmy experience?
-Well, you know, you're very
philosophical and calm and relaxed,
right up until about 2 minutes before
they call your name -- or don't...
-Yeah.
-...and for about 5 minutes afterwards, if they don't,
where you're busy scrambling to be philosophical,
you know, and see whether or not you're believable when you,
"Oh, yeah.
No, no. That's a great choice.
I told you." You know, that kind of stuff.
And then we waited for the commercial to be polite.
And they have seat fillers, so no one knows --
First off, no one even knows you're there,
'cause we're all so self-absorbed.
-Right. -You know, it doesn't matter.
So, we -- Or at least this one is.
So, we got up and went
to this great restaurant in downtown L.A.
-So that was it. You were out.
-7:00, I was fairly well-hammered
on a couple of tequilas with Mary,
you know, and went home, and we were in bed by 9:00.
Just had the best evening.
-That's amazing. -Yeah.
-I will say it is -- With the Creative Arts Emmys,
which is the week before, our writing staff was nominated,
and it was the first award of a three-hour night.
And our writing -- I wasn't there,
but our whole writing staff was there.
And they announced it. We lost.
And, immediately, one of the guys --
-[ Coughing ] Loser. Sorry.
-Yeah, no, that's fine. It's fine.
Again, I wasn't there. -No, no, no, no.
-I mean, I wasn't a sucker who actually went.
[ Laughs ]
[ Cheers and applause ]
-Hey! -Hey!
We are friends!
-You know who else was a sucker was --
Larry David was sitting right in front of me.
-Well that was -- I will say I really enjoyed it,
'cause there was a shot.
I was aware you were there because, oh, you know,
I'm lucky enough to know you
I'm lucky enough to know Larry a little bit.
Did Larry stay?
I would assume he would also leave.
-I think he had to do a bit. -Oh, he did have to do a bit.
-He had to present. -He had to present.
-Right. -Now, that's the true sucker.
-So he didn't get home until...
-Yeah, that is like -- So, you stay, you lose,
and then you still have to do stuff.
-When he came up right before the show started,
he goes -- he looked at me and went,
"You and I have a 1-in-100 chance of winning."
I went, "That's not true,"
harboring the thought that I might win.
-Yeah.
-He was right. -Yeah.
Yeah, you were like, "That's not true, Larry.
You have a 1-in-100 chance."
I want to mention "Cheers"
and I want to talk to you more to you after the commercial.
But "The Good Place"
had a fantastic season finale at Season 2.
[ Cheers and applause ] -Are you watching?
-And there was a wonderful moment.
And, obviously, the creator of the show, Mike Schur,
is a huge "Cheers" fan, as are millions and millions of people.
But he put you back behind the bar.
Your character got to stand behind the bar.
And for anyone who's a fan of television,
that was a -- You know, it was a real goose-bumps moment.
Did you feel immediately natural being behind the bar again?
-No. -Okay.
-No, seriously.
It took me a year and a half of playing "Cheers," Sam Malone.
My voice changed just now. I'm starting to quaver.
I'm getting nervous and sick. I never went to bars.
I was the guy who -- I never picked up women kind of thing.
The woman would have to be standing naked in front of me,
and I would go, "Me?"
You know?
So playing Sam Malone was an
anathema to me for the longest time.
So going back was -- All of a sudden,
I was full of insecurity and just felt horrible.
-It did not look horrible,
but I guess that's acting right there, yeah.
-No, you can -- If you watch the scene,
you'll notice that I would try to remember, "What did I do?
Oh, I used wash shot glasses.
Yeah. And then I have a towel over my shoulder.
Yeah, I'll do the towel thing."
And you can see the towel come up and down like 40 times.
-It's actually funny. I had never thought about that.
But when you said, Sam Malone was always washing shot glasses.
That seems like --
And I don't think anyone on that show ever did a shot.
-No. Beer. -Beer. Everybody drank beer.
-Yeah. I went to bartender school
and worked my little butt off to learn how to make drinks.
And the first month of shooting, I was making
Manhattans and grasshoppers and all sorts of weird drinks.
And then it dawned on me, they didn't give a [bleep] about --
They want their jokes said well and on time, you know?
And they're shooting you above your hands,
so all you see is this, so I went...
-And the towel. We all loved the towel.
That was so great.
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