>>> THE JUDGE IF THE BILL COSBY TRIAL HAS DECLARED A MISTRIAL.
WE'RE STANDING BY, WAITING FOR THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO DELIVER
A PRESS CONFERENCE. BUT WE'RE RETURNING TO FRIDAY'S
NEWS. THIS IS PHILANDO CASTILE'S MOM.
>> I AM SO DISAPPOINTED IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.
MY SON LOVED THIS STATE. HE HAD ONE TATTOO ON HIS BODY
AND IT WAS OF THE TWIN CITIES. THE STATE OF MINNESOTA WITH TC
ON IT. MY SON LOVED THIS CITY AND THIS
CITY KILLED MY SON! AND THE MURDERER GETS AWAY!
>> ON FRIDAY, A MINNESOTA JURY ACQUITTED POLICE OFFICER
GERONIMO YANEZ OF ALL CHARGES AFTER HE SHOT AND KILLED
PHILANDO CASTILE DURING A TRAFFIC STOP.
THE DECISION CAME NEARLY A YEAR AFTER THE WORLD WATCHED HIS
DISTURBING FINAL MOMENTS. THE LAST MOMENTS OF HIS LIFE
WHICH WAS SHARED THROUGH A VIDEO STREAMED LIFE TO FACEBOOK
THROUGH CASTILE'S GIRLFRIEND, DIAMOND REYNOLD.
YANEZ TESTIFIES THAT HE STOPPED CASTILE AFTER HE SAW HIS CAR
DRIVE BY AND THEY MADE EYE CONTACT, WHICH GAVE HIM STRONG
SUSPICIONS THAT CASTILE WAS A STOP IN A RECENT ROBBER.
DURING THE STOP, CASTILE TOLD YANEZ THAT HE WAS IN THE
POSSESSION OF A FIREARM, WHICH HE WAS LEGALLY LICENSED TO
CARRY. DIAMOND REYNOLDS SAID HE WOULD
ONLY BE REACHING FOR HIS IDENTIFICATION.
REYNOLD'S 4-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WAS ALSO IN THE CAR.
AFTER FIVE DAYS OF DELIBERATIONS, THE JURY CLEARED
YANEZ ON ALL CHARGES, ON CHARGES OF SECOND-DEGREE MANSLAUGHTER
AND RECKLESS DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM.
CASTILE'S MOM OUTRAGE AFTER THE VERDICT WAS AMPLIFIED YESTERDAY
IN MINNESOTA, WHERE THOUSANDS OF DEMONSTRATORS TOOK TO THE
STREETS IN PROTEST. POLICE MADE 18 ARRESTS FOLLOWING
THOSE PROTESTS, WHICH SHUT DOWN THE I-94 FREEWAY IN ST. PAUL.
AND AS MUCH AS THE VERDICT CAME AS A SHOT AND A DISAPPOINTMENT
MANY. IF HISTORY IS ANY GUIDE, IT WAS
NOT MUCH OF A SURPRISE AT ALL. BECAUSE THE ONLY THING MORE RARE
THAN AN OFFICER BEING CHARGED WITH A DEADLY SHOOTING IS AN
OFFICER BEING CONVICTED. AND JOINING ME NOW IS CASTILE
FAMILY ATTORNEY, JUDGE GLENDA HATCHETT.
AND JUDGE HATCHETT, IT IS RARE. THE PROSECUTION, I GUESS, IN A
SENSE, HAS TO BE COMMENDED THAT THEY CHARGED OFFICER YANEZ AT
ALL. WERE YOU SURPRISED BY THE
VERDICT? >> I WAS SURPRISED AND VERY
DISAPPOINTED THAT HE WAS ACQUITTED.
AND JOY, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN THE HISTORY OF MINNESOTA THAT A
POLICE OFFICER HAS EVER BEEN CHARGED FOR SHOOTING A CIVILIAN,
FOR KILLING A CIVILIAN. SO TALK ABOUT IT BEING RARE IN
THIS COUNTRY. EVEN MORE RARE IN MINNESOTA.
AND SO JOHN TROY, THE PROSECUTOR IN THAT COUNTY AND HIS TEAM ARE
TO BE COMMENDED. IN FACT, I SAID YESTERDAY, WHAT
WE SAW WAS A COMBINATION OF BOTH TALENT AND TENACITY.
BUT I WILL TELL YOU, JOY, IF WE CANNOT GET THIS ONE RIGHT, I
DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US AS A NATION.
BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY OF US WATCHING THIS TRIAL CAREFULLY.
I'VE BEEN IN MINNESOTA FOR THE LAST 15 DAYS, THAT IT HAS TO BE
JUSTIFIED. EVEN HIS PARTNER, HIS POLICE
PARTNER ON THE OTHER WINDOW, CLOSEST TO THE PASSENGER SIDE,
WAS STANDING THERE VERY CASUALLY WITH HIS THUMBS IN HIS VEST.
AND HE TESTIFIED THAT HE DID NOT SEE A GUN AND THAT THE GUN, THE
EMT SAID THEY HAD TO REACH DEEP INTO HIS POCKET TO RETRIEVE THIS
GUN AFTER HE WAS SHOT. HE WAS -- HE FIRED SEVEN SHOTS.
FIVE ACTUALLY HIT HIM, TWO IN HIS HEART, EITHER OF THEM WOULD
HAVE BEEN FATAL. AND SO THIS IS A -- THIS IS A
VERY DIFFICULT CASE TO UNDERSTAND HOW HE WAS ACQUITTED.
>> YEAH.
AND WE -- AND NOW THE "NEW YORK DAILY NEWS" IS REPORTING ON
FRIDAY THAT PHILANDO CASTILE'S UNCLE HAS CALLED ON DONALD TRUMP
AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TO BRING FEDERAL CHARGES AGAINST
JERONIMO YANEZ. YOU DON'T EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN,
DO YOU? >> I DON'T EXPECT THAT TO
HAPPEN, BECAUSE ALL ALONG, I HAVE UNDERSTOOD AND WATCHED,
BOTH FROM THE STATE PART AS WELL AS THE FEDERAL LEVEL.
AND THE FEDERAL PROSECUTION WILL REQUIRE THAT RACE WAS A MOTIVE
IN THIS SITUATION AND THAT THAT IS A VERY, VERY STEEP HILL.
I DO NOT EXPEC EXPECT IT AND I PARTICULARLY DO NOT EXPECT IT
UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION's LEADERSHIP.
>> YEAH. WELL, AND I'LL JUST VERY QUICKLY
ASK YOU, YOU KNOW, WE SAW THAT THE MOM, THAT PHILANDO CASTILE'S
MOM WAS ANGRY AND I THINK RIGHTFULLY SO.
HOW IS THE FAMILY FARING THIS MORNING?
>> THEY ARE -- YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN 11 MONTHS.
VALERIE CASTILE IS ONE OF THE MOST REMARKABLE WOMEN I HAVE
EVER ENCOUNTERED, BUT THIS IS PAINFUL.
THIS IS DEEPLY, DEEPLY PAINFUL, BECAUSE THEY FEEL, FRANKLY, THAT
THE SYSTEM HAS NOT SUPPORTED THEM IN THIS MATTER.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, AS A MOTHER AS TWO YOUNG ADULT
AFRICAN-AMERICAN MEN, TO SEE HIM WITH MY PATHOLOGIST, DR.
MITCHELL AND I, I WENT INTO THE EXAMINATION ROOM, AND TO SEE
THIS YOUNG MAN'S BODY RIPPED APART WITH BULLETS, WHEN HE WAS
COMPLYING. HE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT, AND
YET, HE IS DEAD, IS VERY DIFFICULT.
IT IS VERY DIFFICULT, JOY. >> WELL, PLEASE --
>> BUT IT'S NOT OVER. SO I'M DISAPPOINTED, BUT I AM
NOT DISCOURAGED. AND LET ME BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT
THAT. >> THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT.
I REALLY APPRECIATE IT. JUDGE GLENDA HATCHETT, THANK YOU
VERY MUCH. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING
HERE. >> THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, JOY. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> JOINING ME NOW, PHILLIP ATEEVA GOLF AND CRIMINAL DEFENSE
ATTORNEY, JACK RICE. PHIL, I WANT TO COME TO YOU
FIRST. I THINK THAT IS A POINT WE WANT
TO MAKE. IT IS SURPRISING, REALLY, WHEN A
POLICE OFFICER IS ACTUALLY BROUGHT TO TRIAL AT ALL.
YOU JUST GO THROUGH THE STATISTICS.
MAPPING POLICE VIOLENCE, 1155 PEOPLE KILLED BY POLICE IN 2016.
13 CASES WHERE THE OFFICER WAS CHARGED.
ZERO PEOPLE CONVICTED, BECAUSE ALL POLICE OFFICERS HAVE TO SAY
IS, THOUGHT HE HAD A GUN, WAS IN FEAR FOR MY LIFE, CASE CLOSED.
>> THE REASONABLENESS STANDARD HERE, MANY PEOPLE ARE SAYING,
THAT'S THE ENEMY, RIGHT? THE REASONABLENESS STANDARD.
BECAUSE IF YOU THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO BE AFRAID OF BLACK
PEOPLE, THEN YOU CAN JUST KILL THEM, RIGHT?
THAT'S A SELF-DEFENSE STANDARD AND IT'S EVEN MORE SO FOR THE
REASONABLE OFFICER. I THINK, THOUGH, IF WE FOCUS TOO
MUCH ON THE FACTS OF ANY INDIVIDUAL CASE, WE END UP DOING
A DISSERVICE TO PHILANDO CASTILE AND THE PEOPLE WHO LOVED HIM.
WE DO A DISSERVICE TO OTHER FOLKS.
I REMEMBER A YEAR AGO IN JULY WHEN THE SHOOTING TOOK PLACE.
IT WAS THE SAME WEEK AS ALTON STERLING, THE SAME WEEK AS THE
DALLAS SHOOTINGS. I WAS IN DOJ WITH THE THEN
ATTORNEY GENERAL, LORETTA LYNCH. WE WERE ALL GRIEVING THAT ENTIRE
WEEK. BUT I ALSO REMEMBER TWO YEARS
AGO TODAY, THE MOTHER EMANUEL CHURCH AND THAT SHOOTING.
AND I ALSO REMEMBER A LONGER HISTORY HERE.
SO IF WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE ACQUITTAL IN
THIS PARTICULAR CASE, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE
REASONABLENESS STANDARD AND
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE WAYS IN WHICH THERE
ARE NOT APPROPRIATE LAWS TO DEAL WITH DISCRIMINATION THAT ISN'T
INTENTIONAL, THAT ISN'T ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL CHARACTER.
AND WE'LL BE RIGHT TO DO THAT. BUT IF WE'RE NOT ALSO TALKING
ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH AMERICA IS LYING ABOUT RACE AND HAS BEEN
FOR QUITE SOME TIME. IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE
MENDACIOUS HISTORY OF LEADER OR LACK THEREOF.
IF WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A CRISIS OF VISION WHEN IT COMES
TO ACTUAL JUSTICE IN AMERICA, WE'RE DOING EVERYBODY A
DISSERVICE. BECAUSE AS MUCH AS THIS CASE
HINGED ON THOSE PARTICULAR FACTORS OF REASONABLENESS AND
THE OFFICER AND WHATEVER WAS GOING ON IN THE MINDS OF THE
JURY, THE NEXT CASE WILL HINGE ON THE LAST ONE.
ONE OF THE THINGS I'M HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY IS WHERE THE
CENTER FOR POLICE AND EQUITY WORKS, A GREAT DEAL IS, IT'S NOT
EVEN ANGRY. IT'S NOT EVEN SHOCK.
IT'S RESIGNATION AND, WELL, I GUESS IT'S ON US.
THERE IS NO WAY FOR ME TO OVERSTATE THE CORROSIVENESS OF
THIS TO THE AMERICAN DREAM AND THE PARTICIPATION IN THAT DREAM
IN COMMUNITIES THAT FEEL AS IF THE STATE HAS SAID IT'S OKAY TO
KILL YOU IF I'M SCARED OF YOU. >> YEAH.
AND JACK, I THINK THAT'S THE POINT.
YOU HAVE HERE A CASE WHERE THERE'S A LITTLE KID IN THE CAR.
THERE'S A 4-YEAR-OLD IN THE CAR. THERE'S A WOMAN DRIVING.
THE OFFICER MUST HAVE HEARD HER NARRATING.
THIS IS TAKING PLACE LIVE ON FACEBOOK LIVE.
SO THAT THE WHOLE WORLD CAN WATCH IT UNFOLD.
SO NOTHING REALLY DETERS OFFICERS, EVEN THE PRESENCE OF A
CHILD. SO, I MEAN, I THINK, ISN'T IT
REASONABLE AT THIS POINT FOR AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO CONCLUDE
THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THE BLACK LIVES MATTER SLOGAN IS SORT OF A
NECESSARY PLEA, BECAUSE IT APPEARS THAT POLICE OFFICERS
DON'T HAVE TO MIND THE BLACK LIVES IN FRONT OF THEM.
>> YOU'RE RIGHT. BLACK LIVES DON'T MATTER.
I'VE TRIED CASES IN THIS COUNTY, IN THIS COURTHOUSE, MUSE.
AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THIS IS SOMETHING EVERYBODY KNOWS,
RACISM EXISTS. RACISM EXISTS IN THE WORLD, IT
EXISTS IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT IT ALSO EXISTS IN OUR CRIMINAL
JUSTICE SYSTEM. I'VE STOOD IN FRONT OF JURORS
AND I'VE HAD TO TELL THEM AGAIN AND AGAIN AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT
WHAT IS IT IS TO BE AFRAID OF YOUNG BLACK MEN.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS. WHEN AUTOMATICALLY YOU WILL SEE
THEM, AND YOU SAY, I'M AFRAID IMMEDIATELY.
AND UNDERSTAND THAT LOWERS THE STANDARD IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE
THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, IF I'M AFRAID, THAT MEANS I CAN DEFEND
MYSELF. SO THAT'S WHAT WE SEE REGULARLY
WHEN, AUTOMATICALLY, YOU ARE AFRAID.
AND THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN FIGHTING AND SOMETHING I'VE BEEN
SAYING ON A DAILY BASIS. AND AGAIN, I'VE WATCHED THIS
HAPPEN IN COURTROOMS ACROSS THIS STATE AND ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
>> AND PHILLIP, DO YOU WANT TO JUMP IN?
>> YEAH, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND I WANT TO ECHO SOMETHING THAT I FEEL LIKE IS AN IMPORTANT
PART OF THE CONVERSATION HERE. CPE WORKS WITH TWO DIFFERENT
CONSTITUENCIES. WE WORK INSIDE POLICE
DEPARTMENTS AND IN THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE MOST
AFFECTED BY IT. I TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT HOW FOLKS ARE FEEL LIKE, WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO?
WE'VE GOT TO TAKE JUSTICE IN OUR OWN HANDS, WHICH IS A DANGEROUS
THING, RIGHT? BUT WHAT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE
SURE IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION ON THIS DAY AFTER IS THE PHONE
CALLS I'VE BEEN GETTING FROM CHIEFS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, THE
PEOPLE WHO TRAIN OTHER OFFICERS. AND TO A PERSON AN OF THIS CASE,
NOT AFTER ALL OF THEM, BUT AFTER THIS CASE, I'M HEARING
EXASPERATION, FOLKS BEING TIRED OF HAVING TO DEFEND THESE TAPES.
I'M GETTING FOLKS -- CHIEFS AND SERGEANTS COMING AND TALKING
ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY HARD TO DEFEND, BECAUSE HE WAS
CLEARLY AND LITERALLY, CALMLY FOLLOWING INSTRUCTION.
HOW DO I THEN GO OUT AND POLICE AND WITH A STRAIGHT FACE SAY,
YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE HERE REP
RESENTING THE BEST OF THE VALUES
OF THIS COUNTRY. >> IF I COULD JUMP IN THERE,
THAT'S THE ONE POINT I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE I
KNOW, IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM, ON THE FEDERAL AND STATE
LEVELS, AS WELL. WHAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN, AND THIS
HAS BEEN THE PROBLEM, WHAT THE POLICE HAVE DONE IS DEFEND THEIR
OWN, CONSISTENTLY, ALWAYS. AND THIS INCLUDES THE BAD ONES.
THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THEY HAVE DEFENDED BAD COPS THAT
DO BAD THINGS. THERE ARE GOOD COPS IN THE
COUNTRY. THERE ARE.
BUT WHEN THEY DEFEND EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE BAD ONES, AND THEN
NOW CLAIM THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN, NOW WE'RE SEEING A BUNCH OF BAD
COPS, AS IF WE WEREN'T SEEING THEM BEFORE, BUT YOU SIMPLY
CAN'T DENY IT, BECAUSE WE'RE WATCHING THEM ON TAPE.
THAT'S THE PROBLEM WE'RE SEEING IN THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE NEED TO SEE FROM THE POLICE, FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, IS
THEIR WILLINGNESS TO STAND UP AND POINT OUT THEIR OWN THAT ARE
THE BAD APPLES, BECAUSE THEY NEED TO CREATE AND DEVELOP AND
ESTABLISH CREDIBILITY, NOT JUST FOR THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY. THEY NEED ESTABLISH IT FOR THE
ENTIRE COUNTRY. THIS IS NOT A BLACK PROBLEM, AND
IT IS A BLACK PROBLEM, BUT IT'S ALSO AN AMERICAN PROBLEM.
AND I THINK WE COLLECTIVELY HAVE TO STAND UP, COLLECTIVELY, AND
ADDRESS IT. IF WE DON'T, THIS IS GOING TO
CONTINUE. AGAIN, THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN
COMMUNITY IS RESIGNED. THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, YEAH, OF
COURSE THIS IS HAPPENING. OF COURSE WE'RE DEALING WITH
THIS. WE'VE ALWAYS DEALT WITH THIS.
AT SOME POINT, WE HAVE TO SIT DOWN AND SAY, ENOUGH,
COLLECTIVELY. WE MUST!
>> AND I THINK THAT AS YOU SAID, AFTER A WHILE, IT'S EXHAUSTING.
YOU SAY SANDRA BLAND, NO CHARGES THERE.
SO SHE'S LEFT TO DIE IN HER CELL.
YOU SEE MARLEY GRAHAM ESTABLISHING THE POLICE CAN BUST
INTO YOUR HOUSE AND KILL YOUR CHILD IN FRONT OF HIS GRANDMA
AND HIS LITTLE BABY BROTHER. WE SEE ERIC GARNER, ALSO CHOKED
TO DEATH ON TAPE. WE SEE IT ON TAPE.
YOU JUST SEE IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
THE ALTON STERLING CASE AGAIN, YOU SEE IT ON TAPE UNFOLDING IN
FRONT OF YOU. NO CHARGES, NO CHARGES, NO
CHARGES, NO CONVICTIONS. AFTER A WHILE, YOU THINK, WHAT'S
THE POINT? >> SOMEBODY IN CHARGE HAS TO
STAND UP AND SAY, LOOK, IT'S NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT WE HAD CODES
THAT DID THIS FOR SLAVES AND WE SEE SOMETHING THAT LOOKS VERY
SIMILAR IN CERTAIN COMMUNITIES RIGHT NOW.
SO IF WE'RE GOING TO DO BETTER, WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO BE A
WHOLE HECK OF A LOT MORE HONEST ABOUT WHAT THE HISTORY IS HERE.
>> I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS DOING.
OUR ATTORNEY GENERAL IS ABOUT TO RESTART THE WAR ON DRUGS AND PUT
MORE PEOPLE IN PRISON, SO THAT SHOULD HELP.
>> I SENSE IRONY. >> PHILLIP, JACK, THANK YOU
GUYS. REALLY APPRECIATE IT.IT.
>>> WE ARE STANDING BY STILL FROM A PRESS CONFERENCE FROM THE
DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN THE BILL COSBY CASE.
BUT COMING UP NEXT, WE WILL HAVE A MORAL MOMENT, WHICH I THINK WE
DESPERATELY NEED WITH THE DR. WILLIAM BARBER.
STAY WITH US.
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