>>> HILLARY TOOK ALMOST ALL NEGATIVE ADS.
THE PROBLEM WAS, WHEN PEOPLE WENT TO VOTE, THEY DIDN'T KNOW
WHAT SHE STOOD FOR, OTHER THAN SHE WAS SAYING BAD THINGS ABOUT
ME. SO, FROM THE TIME I ANNOUNCED,
I'VE BEEN HIT, HIT, HIT. THEN FROM THE TIME I GOT IN, I
THOUGHT, OH, THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT, FINALLY, WE'RE GOING TO
COME TOGETHER. THEY HIT ME HARDER, HARDER,
HARDER. THEY'VE NOW LEARNED, I THINK,
THAT THAT DOESN'T WORK. 5-0.
5-0. OKAY?
IT DOESN'T WORK. >> THAT'S PRESIDENT TRUMP LAST
NIGHT IN IOWA SAYING REPUBLICANS ARE 5-0 IN SPECIAL ELECTIONS.
THE TRUTH IS THEY'RE 4-0, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T BODE WELL FOR
DEMOCRATS. JOINING US NOW FROM CAPITOL
HILL, DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN TIM RYAN OF OHIO.
YOU'LL REMEMBER, HE MOUNTED AN UNSUCCESSFUL CHALLENGE LAST YEAR
TO NANCY PELOSI'S LEADERSHIP IN THE HOUSE.
CONGRESSMAN, GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> DETAILS, DETAILS, WILLIE,
WHATEVER, YOU KNOW? >> OH, YEAH.
>> SO, YOU WROTE A POST TO "MEDIUM" YESTERDAY THAT'S
GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION. I WANT TO READ PART OF IT.
"AFTER THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LOSSES, YOU WROTE "ARCHIE
PARNELL AND JON OSSOFF WERE GOOD CANDIDATES WHO RAN SOLID
CAMPAIGNS. IN THE END, THEY WERE BROUGHT
DOWN BY THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY BRAND.
I'M TIRED OF THE EXCUSES. I'M TIRED OF BEING TOLD THAT
WE'VE EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS. I DON'T BELIEVE IN MORAL
VICTORIES. THE ONLY MEASURE OF SUCCESS IN
POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS IS VICTORY. I DON'T BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD
GET A TROPHY. HERE IS THE TRUTH -- THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS A TOXIC BRAND, ONE THAT IS WORSE THAN
DONALD TRUMP'S IN MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.
IT MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH THAT MY PARTY THAT HISTORICALLY
HAS DONE SO MUCH GOOD IS SEEN AS DISCONNECTED AND OUT OF TOUCH
WITH WORKING-CLASS FAMILIES. WE ARE HEADING INTO JULY, AND I
CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THIS, BUT OUR PARTY DOES NOT HAVE A
CLEAR ECONOMIC MESSAGE. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?"
SO, CONGRESSMAN, THAT'S WHAT YOU POSTED LAST NIGHT.
LET ME JUST ASK YOU, IF YOU'VE BEEN IN LEADERSHIP, IF YOU'D WON
THAT ELECTION IN NOVEMBER AGAINST NANCY PELOSI, WHAT WOULD
YOU HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY IN GEORGIA, FOR EXAMPLE, TO GET
THAT CANDIDATE TO VICTORY? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
STRATEGIES THERE WAS NOT TO MAKE IT A NATIONAL CAMPAIGN, WHICH WE
DIDN'T, BUT IN THE END, I THINK A STEALTH GROUND GAME, A STEALTH
GET OUT THE VOTE EFFORT. WE HAVE A STRONG
AFRICAN-AMERICAN POPULATION IN THAT CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, AND
WE CAME IN VERY LATE IN THAT DISTRICT TO TRY TO GET THE
TURNOUT. AND I THINK IF WE WOULD HAVE PUT
A FEW MORE RESOURCES, NOT EVEN THAT MANY, BUT A FEW MORE, WE
WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THE 3,000 VOTES.
WE HAD A GREAT CANDIDATE DOWN THERE IN ARCHIE PARNELL.
HE WAS A WONDERFUL CANDIDATE. I WENT DOWN TO SOUTH CAROLINA
AND CAMPAIGNED WITH HIM. BUT A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY ON THE
GROUND TOWARDS THE END WOULD HAVE DEFINITELY GOT US HOME.
AND YOU KNOW, WE SPENT $20 MILLION-PLUS IN GEORGIA AND ONLY
A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND IN SOUTH CAROLINA COULD HAVE MADE
THE DIFFERENCE. >> SO, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY'S BRAND? THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN
TALKING ABOUT AS LONG AS WE'VE KNOWN YOU, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS
NOW. WHAT IS THE PROBLEM EXACTLY AND
HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT FIXING IT? >> WELL, WE DON'T HAVE A STRONG
ECONOMIC MESSAGE. YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP,
AND YOU'D ASK MY GRANDFATHER, MY GRANDMOTHER, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE
WE DEMOCRATS, AND IT WAS THE DEMOCRATS ARE FOR WORKING-CLASS
PEOPLE. AND WE'VE LOST THAT MESSAGE.
WE ARE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE AND WE ARE FOR SO MANY VERY, VERY
IMPORTANT ISSUES, WILLIE, THAT I'M FOR.
BUT THE THING THAT TIES, YOU KNOW, AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND
LATINOS AND THE LGBT COMMUNITY AND WOMEN ALL TOGETHER IS THAT
WE ALL WANT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR FAMILIES, WE ALL WANT AN
OPPORTUNITY TO GRAB THE NEXT RUNG IN THE ECONOMIC LADDER AND
PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATS FOR THIS, SMALL
BUSINESSPEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT THE DEMOCRATS FOR THIS, AND WE NEED
TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THAT MESSAGE THAT'S GOING TO GROW THE
ECONOMY AND GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK, NOT THIS WE'RE GOING TO
TRAIN YOU FOR SOME JOB THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME DOWN THE PIKE.
IT'S, NO, WE NEED TO REBUILD THE COUNTRY, YOU'RE GOING TO WORK
NOW AND WE'LL TRAIN YOU WHILE YOU'RE HIRED AS AN APPRENTICE TO
GET YOU BACK TO WORK. THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF VERY
SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD THINGS WE NEED TO DO.
>> SO, IS THERE TOO MUCH FOCUS, CONGRESSMAN, ON SOCIAL ISSUES IN
THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND NOT ENOUGH ON ECONOMIC?
>> WELL, THOSE ISSUES ARE VERY IMPORTANT, AND I DON'T THINK WE
SHOULD YIELD ANY GROUND AT ALL ON THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY'RE
VITAL TO OUR SOCIETY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT REFUGEES, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING
ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS. THESE ARE -- IMMIGRATION REFORM.
THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE A
NATIONAL PARTY, YOU NEED TO HAVE A NATIONAL MESSAGE.
AND WHAT'S THE THING THAT BINDS ALL THOSE GROUPS TOGETHER?
IT'S AN ECONOMIC MESSAGE. SO, WE'VE GOT TO STAND FOR THOSE
ISSUES, WE'VE GOT TO FIGHT FOR THOSE ISSUES, BUT THE THRUST OF
OUR MESSAGE NEEDS TO BE AN ECONOMIC ONE, BECAUSE NO MATTER
WHO'S HEARING YOU, AND YOU MAY BE WITH THEM ON THE OTHER
ISSUES, THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE
THINKING ABOUT EVERY DAY AT THEIR OWN KITCHEN TABLE.
>> SO, CONGRESSMAN, LET'S TALK A BIT ABOUT PART OF THE
DISAPPEARING BASE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, UNIONS.
>> YEAH. >> EVERY ELECTION YEAR AND EVERY
OFF ELECTION YEAR, YOU HAVE THE HEADS OF UNIONS SHOWED UP WITH
GUYS LIKE YOU, PEOPLE LIKE YOU SAYING, YEAH, WE'RE WITH THE
DEMOCRATIC PARTY. THE MEMBERSHIP FLEES, LARGE
PORTIONS OF THE MEMBERSHIP FLEES WHEN IT COMES TO ACTUALLY VOTING
FOR A DEMOCRAT. HOW DID YOU LOSE THEM?
>> WELL, I THINK JUST IN GENERAL WE'VE GOT A LOT OF CHALLENGES.
GLOBALIZATION WAS A HUGE CHALLENGE.
AUTOMATION IS EVEN A BIGGER CHALLENGE COMING DOWN THE PIKE.
SO, I FEEL LIKE IT'S THOSE RANK AND FILE DEMOCRATIC UNION
MEMBERS THAT VOTED DEMOCRAT FOR A GENERATION ALL OF A SUDDEN
SAID YOU GUYS AREN'T REALLY FIXING MY ISSUE FOR ME, YOU
KNOW, YOU'RE NOT MAKING MY LIFE NECESSARILY EASIER, YOU'RE NOT
MAKING THINGS BETTER. THESE FACTORIES IN PLACES LIKE
YOUNGSTOWN, OHIO, OR WARREN, OHIO, USED TO HAVE 16,000
PEOPLE, NOW THEY HAVE THREE. WHAT HAVE THE DEMOCRATS DONE?
THAT'S WHY TRUMP DIDN'T REALLY RUN AS A REPUBLICAN.
THAT'S WHY HE PULLED SO MANY DEMOCRATS.
HE RAN AS ALMOST ANTIESTABLISHMENT, ANTI BOTH
PARTIES. SO, MIKE, I JUST THINK WE NEED A
REAL ECONOMIC MESSAGE THAT'S GOING TO SAY, OKAY, HOW ARE WE
GOING TO PUT THESE FOLKS TO WORK AND HOW ARE WE GOING TO PUT THEM
TO WORK IN REAL JOBS THAT ARE NEEDED AND JOBS THAT CAN'T BE
OUTSOURCED TO CHINA. I TALKED A LOT ON THIS PROGRAM
ABOUT REDOING OUR ENERGY GRID. THOSE JOBS CAN'T BE OUTSOURCED.
LAYING GOOGLE FIBER AND HIGH-END FIBER LINES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
THOSE JOBS CAN'T BE OUTSOURCED. HOW DO WE GET JOBS OUTSIDE --
FROM WASHINGTON, D.C., TO SMALLER COMMUNITIES AROUND THE
COUNTRY, GOOD, FEDERAL JOBS? HOW DO WE GET THESE PEOPLE BACK
TO WORK? AND LET'S COME UP WITH SOME
CREATIVE WAYS TO SAY, YOU'RE HIRED, YOU'RE GOING TO GET PAID,
LET'S REBUILD THE COUNTRY. >> CONGRESSMAN SAM STEIN HERE.
LET'S JUST CUT TO THE CENTER OF IT.
REPUBLICANS ARE CRAWLING A BIT AFTER THE GEORGIA ELECTION THAT
NANCY PELOSI IS A BURDEN ON HOUSE DEMOCRATS.
YOU SEE IT WITH THE CAMPAIGN COMMITTEES, YOU SEE IT WITH
KELLYANNE CONWAY, TALKING ABOUT THEIR GLEE WITH HER BEING THE
MINORITY LEADER OF YOUR PARTY. YOU'VE BEEN A CRITIC OF PELOSI.
I MEAN, YOU'RE A FAN, BUT YOU'VE CRITICIZED HER AS BEING AT THE
TOP OF THE TICKET. CAN THE DEMOCRATS WIN BACK THE
HOUSE WITH NANCY PELOSI SCHEDULED TO BE SPEAKER, YES OR
NO? >> I THINK IT WILL BE VERY HARD,
SAM. I JUST -- YOU KNOW, WE CAN DO IT
BECAUSE IT'S DONALD TRUMP, BUT I MEAN, YOU THINK, WHAT IF IT WAS
JOHN KASICH OR MARCO RUBIO? WE WOULD BE IN REAL TROUBLE
RIGHT NOW AS A PARTY, AND WE CAN'T FORGET THAT FACT.
BUT I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE MORE CHALLENGING, CERTAINLY.
YOU SEE THESE COMMERCIALS THAT TIE THESE CANDIDATES TO LEADER
PELOSI WEEK IN AND WEEK OUT IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS.
THAT STILL MOVES THE NEEDLE, YOU KNOW?
AND SO, WE'RE ASKING CANDIDATES IN THESE DEEP, RED DISTRICTS TO
BATTLE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ENERGY IN OUR
BASE, WHICH IS VERY XOOITING FOR A LOT OF US TO SEE THAT ON THE
GROUND, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO BEAT THE REPUBLICAN AND YOU'VE GOT TO
CARRY THIS VERY TOXIC DEMOCRATIC BRAND ON YOUR BACK, TOO.
THAT'S A TOUGH THING TO ASK A CANDIDATE RUNNING FOR CONGRESS.
>> YEAH. >> AND SO, WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE
THAT OUT. >> KASIE HUNT?
>> CONGRESSMAN, THE CONVENTIONAL WISDOM HERE, IF DEMOCRATS WERE
GOING TO TAKE BACK THE HOUSE, HAS BEEN ESSENTIALLY RUN TO THE
CENTER. I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT JON OSSOFF
DID IN GEORGIA. HE TRIED TO BE KIND OF
INOFFENSIVE TO POTENTIAL REPUBLICAN CROSSOVER VOTERS, BUT
YOUR EXCITEMENT, AS YOU JUST POINTED OUT, IT'S ON THE LEFT
AND PEOPLE WHO ARE STARTING TO SAY, I MEAN, PEOPLE I'M EVEN
SURPRISED BY, SAYING LOOK, WE SHOULD BE RUNNING ON, SAY,
MEDICARE FOR ALL TO ENERGIZE THOSE PEOPLE.
WHAT IS THE ANSWER IF YOU GUYS WANT TO TAKE BACK THE HOUSE NEXT
ELECTION CYCLE? >> WELL, I'M A MEDICARE FOR ALL
GUY, TOO, AND I THINK MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU
COULD JUST BUY INTO THE MEDICARE PROGRAM, BOY, THAT WOULD
SIMPLIFY THINGS. AT LEAST GET MEDICARE DOWN TO 55
OR 50 SO A LOT OF THOSE WORKING-CLASS PEOPLE THAT MIKE
WAS JUST MENTIONING THAT HAVE LEFT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WOULD
SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU'RE TELLING ME I CAN BUY INTO THE
MEDICARE PROGRAM WITH A MEANS-TESTED FEE THAT I NEED TO
PAY? THAT'S A BIG ISSUE THAT I THINK
COULD HELP PULL SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE BACK.
BUT I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE VERY DISTRICT-SPECIFIC.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I CAME HERE IN 2003 AND WE TOOK THE HOUSE BACK
IN 2006 AND THEN HAD GAINS IN 2008, WE HAD A LOT OF PRO-LIFE,
PRO SECOND AMENDMENT MEMBERS FROM THE DEEP SOUTH.
I MEAN, WE HAD THREE MEMBERS IN MISSISSIPPI, I THINK, WE HAD TWO
OR THREE MEMBERS IN ALABAMA, WE HAD MEMBERS IN SOUTHERN INDIANA,
SOUTHERN OHIO. WE'VE LOST ALL OF THOSE MEMBERS.
SO IN SOME SENSE, YOU'VE GOT TO BE ECONOMICALLY PROGRESSIVE,
YOU'VE GOT TO BE TOLERANT, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY DISAGREE
WITH THE NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY ON A FEW ISSUES, AND WE
CAN'T JUST SAY TO THEM, YOU'RE NOT WELCOME IN THE PARTY.
SO, IT'S GOT TO BE VERY DISTRICT-SPECIFIC ON SOME
ISSUES, BUT I THINK ON THE ECONOMIC ISSUES, ON BEING
ECONOMICALLY PROGRESSIVE AND BEING TOLERANT AND INCLUSIVE,
THOSE ARE THE TWO KEY PILLARS FOR ME.
>> CONG
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