>>> I DECIDED TO RUN FOR OFFICE BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY IS SEATED
AT THE TABLE AND IT IS TIME TO MAKE A BIGGER TABLE.
I'M THE BEST PERSON TO REPRESENT THIS DISTRICT BECAUSE I'M A
WORKING PERSON. LET'S TRADE PLACES.
PAUL RYAN, YOU CAN COME WORK THE IRON AND I'LL GO TO D.C.
>> WELCOME BACK TO "AM JOY." HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN HAS AT
LEAST ONE CHALLENGER TO FACE IN 2018.
RANDY BRYCE, CANCER SURVIVOR AND
WISCONSIN IRON WORKER WHO GOES BY IRON STASH ON TWITTER.
HE ANNOUNCED HIS BID FOR WISCONSIN'S FIRST CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT MONDAY BY TAKING RYAN TO TASK FOR THE REPUBLICAN
HEALTH CARE BILLS AND MAKING ONE OF THE STRONGEST OPENING
ARGUMENTS OF ANY DEMOCRATIC CONTENDER THIS YEAR.
BUT DOES HE HAVE A CHANCE AGAINST THE MAN WHO HAS EASILY
WON RE-ELECTION IN WISCONSIN'S FIRST DISTRICT SINCE 1998.
JOINING ME NOW, THE MAN GEARING UP TO CHALLENGE PAUL RYAN IN
2018, THE IRON STASH HIMSELF, RANDY BRYCE.
MR. BRYCE, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
GREAT TO TALK TO YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME,
JOY, IT IS A PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU. LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR OPENING
AD. I THINK EVERYONE AGREED WAS
REALLY TERRIFIC. IN IT YOU'RE THERE WITH YOUR
MOM, YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR FAMILY, YOU TALK ABOUT YOURSELF.
WHAT PROMPTED YOU TO DECIDE TO RUN FOR THIS PARTICULAR SEAT, TO
RUN FOR CONGRESS? >> WELL, JUST MY HISTORY.
I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE AREA AND I'VE BEEN -- I WORKED
TWO FULL-TIME JOBS FOR A PERIOD OF TIME JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET
AFTER GETTING OUT OF THE ARMY. I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO JOIN A
UNION, GET INTO AN APPRENTICESHIP.
THAT WAS MY TICKET TO THE MIDDLE CLASS.
AFTER DOING THAT AWHILE, I HAD BEEN DOING THAT 20 YEARS.
IN THAT LAST 20 YEARS I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DRIVE AROUND WITH
MY SON, POINT OUT THINGS THAT I LITERALLY BUILT WITH MY HANDS,
HELPING THE COMMUNITY, STANDING UP FOR WORKER ISSUES, ESPECIALLY
RECENTLY IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, WHICH HAVE BEEN UNDER
ATTACK. THEN I LOOK OVER AT WHAT SPEAKER
RYAN HAS BEEN DOING AND HE'S BEEN DOING JUST THE OPPOSITE.
HE'S TAKING THINGS AWAY FROM US. HE'S NOT HERE AND HE'S TRYING TO
PASS THIS TAX BILL DISGUISED AS SOME MEANS TO TAKE AWAY OUR
HEALTH CARE. AND AFTER SEEING WHAT HE'S
TRYING TO DO AND TAKE AWAY OUR HEALTH CARE, I'VE HAD ENOUGH
BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING THAT EFFECTS THREE GENERATIONS OF MY
FAMILY. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DISTRICT
YOU'RE RUNNING IN. DONALD TRUMP EDGED OUT HILLARY
CLINTON IN THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, 47.2 TO
46.9. PAUL RYAN IN THAT SAME ELECTION
BLEW OUT HIS COMPETITOR WHO WAS A GUY NAMED RYAN SOLIN.
HE WON WITH 65%. IF YOU LOOK AT PAUL RYAN'S VOTE
PERCENTAGE, PERCENTAGE OF VOTE HE WON GOING ALL THE WAY BACK TO
1998, THEY HAVE BEEN PRETTY MUCH BLOWOUTS, WON BY 57%.
LOWEST HE GOT WAS 54.9 IN 2012. HE IS USUALLY IN THE MID-60s.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT HIM?
>> WELL, I WOULD JUST LOOK AT THE LAUNCH WE HAD.
I KNEW IT WAS GOING TO BE SUCCESS.
. I HAD NO IDEA IT WOULD BLOW UP
AS BIG AS IT DID. IT IS NOT SOME OUTSTANDING
MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE HAVE NEVER HEARD BEFORE, BUT IT IS A
MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HEAR.
IT'S ABOUT BRINGING, YOU KNOW, DIVERSITY OF THE DISTRICT
TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL STAND UNITED AS WORKING
PEOPLE AND EVERYBODY IS HEARD. I TALKED ABOUT MAKING A BIGGER
TABLE AND THIS INCLUDES DEMANDING THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE
SITTING ACROSS FROM US THAT WE'RE NOT USED TO SEEING.
SO IT IS A MESSAGE OF UNITING EVERYBODY AND JUST THE WAY IT
BLEW UP ACROSS THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST IN THE FIRST DISTRICT.
PEOPLE ARE DYING TO BE HEARD. WITH SPEAKER RYAN'S ABSENCE OVER
600 DAYS, PEOPLE WANT TO BE HEARD.
I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO LISTEN TO PEOPLE AND SPEAK OUT ON THEIR
BEHALF. >> WHY WOULD A VOTER IN FIRST
DISTRICT GIVE UP HAVING SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.
TALK ABOUT BEING HEARD. IF YOUR CONGRESSMAN IS THE
SPEAKER, THAT'S A LOT OF POWER. WHY WOULD A VOTER GIVE THAT UP
TO ELECT AN UNKNOWN WHO WOULD NOT BE IN LEADERSHIP?
>> WELL, AGAIN, I WOULD SAY PAUL RYAN HAS GONE FULL BLOWN
WASHINGTON. HE IS NOT DOING ANYTHING ON
BEHALF OF FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
HE HASN'T HAD A TOWN HALL IN ALMOST TWO YEARS.
YET HE STILL HAS TIME TO GO AROUND TO BIG HIGH DOLLAR
FUND-RAISERS, HAVE PEOPLE PAY $10,000 TO HAVE THEIR PICTURE
TAKEN WITH HIM. HE'S NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR US,
HE IS TAKING THINGS FROM US THAT WE NEED JUST TO SURVIVE.
>> SPEAKING OF HIGH DOLLAR FUND-RAISERS, YOU HAVE TO
BELIEVE THAT THE REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL CAMPAIGN COMMITTEE
IS GOING TO PULL OUT ALL OF THE STOPS.
YOU SAW WHAT THEY DID TO GET KAREN HANDEL INTO TOM PRICE'S
SEAT IN GEORGIA, MOST EXPENSIVE RACE IN HISTORY.
THIS WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE AT LEAST ON THE OTHER SIDE.
HOW WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO COMPETE WITH WHAT WILL BE A HUGE
FUND-RAISING HAUL FOR PAUL RYAN. THE KOCH BROTHERS, LOTS OF
PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MONEY WANT HIM TO STAY THERE.
HOW WILL YOU COMPETE? >> I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY
QUESTION THAT I'M GOING TO BE OUTSPENT, OUTRAISED.
I WOULD NEVER ASK FOR PEOPLE TO PEOPLE TO STAND NEXT TO ME AND
HAVE A PICTURE TAKEN FOR $10,000.
IT IS JUST MAKING ENOUGH MONEY, RAISING ENOUGH TO GET THE
MESSAGE OUT SO PEOPLE KNOW, COME JOIN US, OUR VOICES ARE LOUDER
WHEN WE ARE UNITED TOGETHER. >> I HAVE TO ASK YOU, YOU MADE A
LITTLE NOISE ON TWITTER RECENTLY, REVOKED FREEDOM FRIES
OFFER TO LOUISE MINIMUM MUCH. A LOT IN THE TWITTER.
HOW DID YOU FALLOUT OF LOVE WITH LUIS?
>> I PAID ATTENTION TO WHAT SHE WOULD TWEET.
I SAW HER ON BILL MAHER SHOW, I THOUGHT SHE HAD A LITTLE
CREDIBILITY. BUT IT IS WISHFUL THINKING, IT
IS HOPEFUL. READING A FAIRY TALE, HOPING YOU
GO TO SLEEP AND WAKE UP AND IT IS TRUE.
NO, FAR FROM THAT. AND IF I EVER RUN INTO YOU, JOY,
I WOULD LIKE TO OFFER YOU A FULL FLEDGED SUPER SIZE HAPPY MEAL.
>> I WILL BREAK MY DIET TO HAVE THAT SUPER SIZED HAPPY MEAL WITH
YOU, IRON STASH, IF YOU FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER.
>> ABSOLUTELY. >> EXCELLENT.
COOL. RANDY BRYCE, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH. GOOD LUCK AND COME BACK.
>> THANK YOU. ANY TIME.
ANY TIME. PLEASURE.
HAVE A GREAT DAY. >>> JOINING ME, NBC POLITICAL
ANALYST JOAN WALSH, JAMAL SIMMONS, SCOTT ROSS, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF ONE WISCONSIN NOW. NONE OF WHOM ARE ALLOWED TO
REPEAT I WILL HAVE THE FREEDOM FRIES.
IT IS NOT ON THE DIET. YOU HAVE TO KEEP MY SECRETS.
JOAN, SO WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF HIM.
THIS IS A GUY WHO IS AN UNKNOWN. THE MONEY RAISED WILL BE
HUMONGOUS. GETTING NATIONAL ATTENTION MAY
HELP HIM BUT MAY ATTRACT MORE MONEY AGAINST HIM.
I WONDER IF WE HAVE DONE HIM A DISSERVICE TALKING TO HIM.
>> NO, HE NEEDS TO BE NATIONALLY KNOWN.
THIS RACE SHOULD BE NATIONALIZED.
I THINK HIS FIRST AD WAS AMAZING, SOUNDS EXACTLY THE
RIGHT NOTES FOR THAT DISTR DIST FOR VIRTUALLY ANY PLACE
ACTUALLY. IF I WERE HIM, I WOULD TIE THIS
HEALTH BILL, WHATEVER HEALTH BILL, WHATEVER HAPPENS TO IT,
HOPEFULLY IT GETS DEFEATED, I WOULD TIE IT TO PAUL RYAN.
I WOULD BRING UP THE FACT THAT HE JOKED, JOKED, SUPPOSEDLY
JOKED, THAT HE WAS DREAMING OF SLASHING MEDICAID OVER KEGGERS
IN COLLEGE. I WOULD JUST BRING OUT WHAT A
HEARTLESS, SOULLESS WASHINGTON CREATURE HE HAS BECOME.
I DON'T THINK THE DISTRICT KNOWS.
MADE GOOD POINTSOINTS NICE TO H SOMEBODY IN LEADERSHIP, BUT IF
THEY DEVOTED THEIR LIFE TO HURTING PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT,
LET'S THINK TWICE. >> TELL US ABOUT THE DISTRICT.
IT IS AFTER LUNLT, THAT LIKES TAX CUTS, THAT PAUL RYAN DREAMED
SINCE COLLEGE OF GETTING RID OF SOCIAL PROGRAMS, WANTS TO
VOUCHERIZE, OR IS IT OPEN TO A WORKING CLASS GUY SAYING LOOK, I
WANT THAT OFFICE TO BE CARING ABOUT REGULAR PEOPLE.
>> JOY, I MEAN, DEMOCRATS HAVE REPRESENTED THE FIRST
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BEFORE, AND FOR SUBSTANTIAL PERIODS OF
TIME. NOW, IT HAS SOME DARK RED AND
HAS SOME DARK BLUE. I THINK THE BIG THING FOR THESE
CANDIDATES WHO ARE CHALLENGING PAUL RYAN IS THEY HAVE TO MAKE
SURE THE MEDIA HERE IN WISCONSIN IS COVERING WHAT PAUL RYAN IS
DOING OUT IN WASHINGTON, D.C. WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE REAL RACES
FOR 18 YEARS, YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF COVERAGE ABOUT WHAT THE
IMPACT OF WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS.
I THINK NOW THAT PAUL RYAN IS NO LONGER A FRESH FACE, HE IS A 20
YEAR EMBODIMENT OF FOLKS THAT WANT TO TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTH
CARE SO YOU CAN GIVE TE TAX BRE TO RICH PEOPLE, HIS DEFENSE OF
DONALD TRUMP HAS SHOWN IF HE CAN MSNESS AND CAREER POLITICIAN
RATHER THAN AN EARNEST POLICY
THAT WANTS TO CHANGE POLICIES. PAUL RYAN WAS SCRUTINIZED BY
PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN, WHEN HE WAS A VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE.
HE NOT ONLY LOST HIS HOME WARD AND HIS HOME CITY BUT HE LOST
HIS HOME WARD TWO TO ONE. WHEN PAUL RYAN GETS COVERED, THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE NEXT TO HIM DON'T LIKE HIM.
>> INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, THAT IS INTERESTING, BUT DEMOCRATS HAVE
ONE SPECIAL SKILL, THAT IS LOSING.
>> THAT'S NOT FAIR. >> I KNOW.
>> AND THEN BLAMING THEMSELVES, KICKING THEMSELVES AND PUNCHING
THEMSELVES IN THE FACE FOR YEARS AFTERWARDS.
THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF RACES, PEOPLE LIKE SCOTT WALKER, PEOPLE
THOUGHT THIS GUY TRIED TO TAKE AWAY HEALTH CARE OF PUBLIC
SECTOR WORKERS IN WISCONSIN WAS A SITTING DUCK.
DEMOCRATS TRIED TO RECALL HIM, COULDN'T GET IT DONE.
TRIED TO DEFEAT HIM, COULDN'T GET IT DONE.
IN A STATE LIKE WISCONSIN, UNION STATE, BLUE COLLAR STATE, YOU
WOULD THINK DEMOCRATS COULD WIN, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A CHANCE FROM
YOUR POINT OF VIEW, MR. DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST.
>> I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN LEVEL OF
EXPECTATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING ON SOMEBODY AS POWERFUL
AS THE SPEAKER. BUT I'M OLD ENOUGH TO REMEMBER
1994 WHEN A SPEAKER NAMED TOM FOLEY WAS BEAT BY A GUY
INTERNETER CUT, HE PINNED HIM DOWN ON DYSFUNCTION HAPPENING.
THIS IS THE THING. PAUL RYAN IS IN CHARGE OF THE
DYSFUNCTION.
HE HAS TO DEFEND THAT HAPPENING IN CONGRESS, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, MR. BRYCE, RANDY BRYCE CAN CAMPAIGN EVERY SINGLE
DAY, EVERY SINGLE WEEK, WHILE SPEAKER RYAN HAS TO BE IN
WASHINGTON DEALING WITH WHATEVER THE ISSUES ARE IN WASHINGTON.
AND THE THIRD THING IS IF NOTHING ELSE HAPPENS, IT WILL
MAKE RYAN HAVE TO GO BACK TO WISCONSIN AND CAMPAIGN AND KEEP
HIM FROM BEING ON THE ROAD AND ABLE TO RAISE MONEY FOR OTHER
REPUBLICANS. THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS.
THIS AD AND THIS CANDIDATE IS REALLY DANGEROUS TO THE SPEAKER
OF THE HOUSE AND REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.
>> I HAVE TO SAY THE AD REMINDED ME OF ONE REALLY GOOD AD OF THE
2016 CYCLE FOR DONALD TRUMP, THE MAN OF STEEL AD WHICH RAN FOR
HIM IN A LOT OF RUST BELT STATES, TALKED ABOUT BRINGING
BACK STEEL, SOMETHING THAT'S NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT IT
WAS GOOD FROM AN OUTSIDE GROUP. SCOTT, THINKING OF OUTSIDE
GROUPS, HOW MUCH MONEY IS ON THE TABLE FROM THE KOCH BROTHERS,
BRADLEY FOUNDATION, PEOPLE YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT DARK MONEY
AND WISCONSIN HAS A LOT OF IT, AND REINCE PRIEBUS IS FROM
THERE. ALL THE STOPS WILL BE PULLED OUT
FOR RYAN, RIGHT? >> OH, YEAH, ALL THE MONEY IN
THE WORLD. HERE'S WHAT I THINK IS UNIQUE
ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR RACE. YOU MENTIONED SCOTT WALKER,
REINCE PRIEBUS, YOU MENTIONED PAUL RYAN, THINK OF GUYS LIKE
MARCO RUBIO AND TED CRUZ. THESE ARE GENERATION X
REPUBLICANS. THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT YOU WENT
TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH, RIGHT, AND DEMOCRATS A LOT OF TIMES ARE
PUTTING UP PEOPLE THAT LOOK LIKE THE TEACHERS WHO TAUGHT YOU WHEN
YOU WERE IN HIGH SCHOOL BACK THEN.
I THINK THERE'S A BIG HUGE SHIFT, AND RANDY IS PART OF
THAT. HE WILL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT
THOSE ISSUES THAT FACE GENX AND BABY BOOM VOTERS.
THE DEMOGRAPHIC HAS HAS BEEN SO SECURITY, MEDICARE, MY EMPLOYER
PROVIDED PENSION MAY BE UNDER THREAT, CRITICALLY IMPORTANT
ISSUES. FOR 43 MILLION WITH STUDENT LOAN
DEBT, IT IS THAT MONTHLY PAYMENT.
RANDY CAN CONNECT WITH THOSE KIND OF ISSUES AS WELL AS OTHERS
IN THE RACE. PAUL RYAN IS LITERALLY THE FACE
OF STOPPING YOU, FOR INSTANCE, FROM BEING ABLE TO REFINANCE
YOUR STUDENT LOAN LIKE A MORTGAGE, SOMETHING THAT 500,000
IN WISCONSIN ALONE WOULD BENEFIT FROM.
>> ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS HE SAID WHEN YOU
INTERVIEWED HIM IS THAT PAUL RYAN HADN'T DONE A TOWN HALL IN
TWO YEARS IN HIS CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
THAT'S GOING TO STING IF PEOPLE TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
>> OUT OF TIME THIS BLOCK. BRINGING JOAN AND JAMAL BACK.
SCOTT ROTH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DISAPPOINTED YOU DIDN'T WEAR A
COOL JACKET FROM THE '70s. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT. >>> NEXT UP.
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