MARK WALBERG: Antiques Roadshow was wowed by the crowd in Cleveland, Ohio.
My husband rides Harley-Davidsons,
and this was his belt when he was in his cool stage.
That's a great investment.
It certainly is!
Wow!
WALBERG: Antiques Roadshow visited the home
of the Cleveland Orchestra: Severance Hall.
And while the musicians were on break,
we got a behind-the-scenes glimpse
at this historic building.
Debuting in 1931
and designed by Cleveland architects Walker and Weeks,
the hall showcases a symphony
of diverse architectural styles that work in harmony
to make this concert hall a stand-out city landmark.
Another example of a mixture of different styles?
We'll explore this mysterious piece later on in the show,
but now, check out this local treasure.
MAN: I went to an auction,
and I found a scrapbook down in the basement.
And it was all dusty, it was up on the shelf,
and I took it down and I started to look through it.
Looked like it had some interesting things,
didn't really see these.
Thought I'd bid on it.
What did the scrapbook sell for, if you don't mind me asking?
$50.
So these ticket stubs are from the 1920 World Series,
which was between the Brooklyn Robins, not the Dodgers--
they were called the Robins
because of their manager, Wilbert Robinson--
and the Cleveland Indians.
These two are from games three and four in Cleveland,
so these are actually the sixth and seventh games
of the World Series.
The Brooklyn Robins
had the first three games at Ebbets Field,
then at Dunn Field here in Cleveland,
the Cleveland Indians hosted the teams.
And the Indians won the World Series in the seventh game,
five games to two.
Back in 1920, it was a best-of-nine World Series.
That's why we have a team winning five games to two.
And it was a very important World Series.
Obviously, it was the first for the Cleveland Indians,
but what was cool about it was
there was an unassisted triple play in game five.
Bill Wambsganss famously had an unassisted triple play
in the World Series,
one of the most famous plays in World Series history.
So, it's a remarkable series for that alone.
There was a grand slam in game five,
and the Cleveland Indians
basically dedicated the season to their fallen comrade,
Ray Chapman, who had been killed earlier in the season
by a bean to the head, a bean ball to the head
by Carl Mays, and it was a terribly tragic event
in baseball history,
and it really spurred on the team
to eventually win the World Series.
Tickets are a great collectable.
A stub like this, though,
you're dealing with a very old piece of paper here
that could easily disappear over the years.
That's why scrapbooks are a great thing to find
and look through and see, you know, what you could find.
So, these are wonderful treasures.
Game six is a good one,
but game seven is very important
because it is that clinching game,
and people love the clinching game ticket.
There are some condition issues.
These were glued down,
so there's some glue on the back of the tickets.
But overall, they present very nicely,
and that's what collectors like.
Well, I would put a retail value
on these ticket stubs at about $2,000.
Really?
Nice, excellent!
Yeah, so not bad for a $50 investment.
No, no, no-- that's exciting, that's neat.
Excellent.
Thank you!
WOMAN: My grandfather was Bill Wamby.
He played for the Cleveland Indians, among other teams.
He had a 13-year professional career.
And after he retired in the '40s,
he went and managed girls' professional baseball.
You said Bill Wamby, but his last name was...?
Wambsganss.
He did play for the Cleveland Indians,
so he's kind of a local hometown hero,
and I think he's really well known
for being the only player in history
ever to complete an unassisted triple play in a World Series.
In 1920.
And it's something that's never been done again,
and I don't know if it ever will be.
He was interviewed once about the triple play,
and he said, "You would have thought
I was born the day before and died the day after,"
but he had a 13-year career,
but everybody remembers that one play.
And at the time,
he was a second baseman,
so you got the player going off second base,
caught a line drive,
and tagged the runner from first coming into second.
What we're looking at here, I think, is really super
because up until not that long ago,
women's baseball was not treated
in the same fashion as men's professional baseball,
and with the movie League of Their Own
and with the opening of that wing
in the Cooperstown Hall of Fame,
it's really come more to the forefront.
Now, you have two pictures up on top.
Those are two team pictures
of teams that he coached in the Women's Baseball League.
That's right, the Fort Wayne Daisies,
and then the Muskegon Lassies.
What I also found really neat
was that little piece of paper you brought there.
It's the All-American Girls' Baseball League.
It says "Girls' baseball, not softball,"
and that's very cool to me because up until that point,
women played softball, men played baseball.
And also, the parameters
for the bases and everything else
are different than professional men's baseball.
Down on the bottom, it shows that he was the head scout.
That's right.
Now the trophy, to me, is really interesting
because it's a trophy for them winning the title,
and that was with the Muskegon Lassies.
Overall, the trophy's in great shape.
It is missing the bat, and that's not hard to replace.
What also is very cool, down here, it says,
"To Bill Wamby," and then it lists the players' names,
which is great.
Great names.
Cookie and Tex and everything else.
I'm assuming because it's such a personal family thing
that it's something you're going to keep in the family.
Yes.
I would advise you
to place an insurance value on the whole group
as an archive somewhere between $8,000 and $10,000
for insurance purposes.
Yeah, it's irreplaceable stuff.
Trophies from Women's Baseball League, I haven't seen one.
When we give an insurance appraisal, understand,
it's not definitely saying that's what it would sell for,
but it's important to cover it
in the event that something does happen.
Incredible.
But it's just great,
and it's not just because it's the Women's Baseball League.
You're talking about a pretty important figure
in Cleveland baseball history.
He was a great guy, too.
Hello!
We made it, yay!
You know, it's a mass- produced work of art.
I had a friend that just died and we went to the funeral,
and when we got there,
the one daughter came up and hugged my wife and said,
"I'm so sorry, you inherited the rooster."
(laughs)
We love it, it's been great.
MAN: I brought a map that I got at an auction
in southern Wisconsin about two or three years ago.
I bought it because it looks really cool
and I've never seen anything like it before
and I love collecting stuff that I've never seen,
so this definitely fit the bill.
I've had it hanging in my room, and I paid $65 for it.
There's lots of 20th century relief maps,
but it's very unusual to see a 19th century relief map.
Although they made multiples of this,
they made very few,
and they're sort of individually hand-made.
I mean, it's all individually painted.
You've got a little crackling going on,
but as that kind of thing goes, pretty nice shape.
Any feeling for what it might be worth?
Um, a couple hundred dollars?
I would say a retail value of around $2,500.
Are you serious?
Absolutely, yeah.
It's a very unusual thing.
Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
This is Anne Jacobs and her brother, Joseph Jacobs,
and they lived in Wooster, Ohio,
which is actually only about 50 miles southwest of here.
She was born in 1835,
and I believe he was born in 1833.
So, that would mean that she's probably about three there.
That's what I would imagine, yes.
So, we're talking about maybe 1838
when this painting was painted.
Yes, I would say about-- yes.
And this was a family painting?
The people that owned it, the parents died
and the children had no room for it anymore,
and so I was able to buy it from them.
They were distant cousins.
The scale of this painting
suggests that this family had some money.
Yes, I believe they owned a mill
in Wooster, Ohio.
It's a wonderful Ohio painting.
When you first came up to the folk art table,
we saw this and we're saying,
"Oh, well, this has got to be somewhere back East."
And then we started looking at it,
and really, it is a Midwestern painting.
There's very little body of work
to talk about Ohio folk art portraiture.
It's not signed, which is typical of folk art paintings.
It's probably done by an itinerant
who came through Wooster.
You very seldom see two children in the same painting.
What else is so great about this
is that she's holding that wonderful cat.
You can see the cat sort of squirming there.
Not too happy.
Not too happy.
He's holding this marvelous pull toy,
and I love the little red yarn that's attached
so he could pull it along.
It gives the painting just a little splash of color.
And here at the top, we have the dress and the wagon.
That certainly adds value to the painting.
Does it add 20% to the painting?
No, but it's nice to have it all together as a package.
It's in the original frame, which is great.
It's been relined--
the canvas has been laid down on a newer piece of canvas
to protect it.
It's had a little bit of conservation,
and you can see here, for example,
that there may be a little bit of in painting there.
I would like to have seen a little bit something
in the background
to really sort of bring it all together.
But at the same time,
the kids are sort of jumping off the canvas.
What did you pay for it?
I paid a lot for it
because I really, really wanted it.
I paid $20,000 for it.
It was the only time I ever asked my father
to borrow money, too.
(laughs)
Well, so you paid $20,000, and how long ago was this?
About 20 years ago.
Okay, we all agreed that
it's right there at the top,
certainly at the top for an Ohio folk art painting,
but it's not just a great, great, great folk art painting
because it's just missing a few things--
the background, their faces are a little bit flat.
But nonetheless, we all agreed $30,000 to $40,000
is an easy estimate for this,
and there might be a lot of upside
if it were to come to auction.
It's a great folk art portrait,
probably the best that I've seen
in the time that I've been selling antiques in Ohio...
Really?
And that's almost 25 years.
I went to graduate school at the University of Akron
back in the late '70s
and befriended some staff and administrative people,
and one of them was a guy by the name of Ian,
who owned this piece.
And we always had fun with it and played around it.
He retired, moved to Florida, he passed away
and it passed then to his sister,
and then it came back to some mutual friends in Akron,
and about ten years ago, it came to me.
And so as we know, and we have the book right here,
it's by Harry Bertoia.
He was an Italian-American sculptor.
Moved here in 1915 and moved to Detroit
and studied at the Cranbrook Institute.
Did jewelry design to begin with,
and then met many people,
including Charles and Ray Eames, the furniture designers.
He subsequently went to work for them,
and in the '50s helped design
a couple of very successful lines of furniture for them,
so much so that he received a lump sum of money
and went and pursued another passion of his,
which was sculpture.
Ultimately, in his lifetime, he made
about 50 public works sculptures,
and many of them are what are called sonambient sculptures,
and this is one of these sonambient sculptures
right here.
Bertoia moved to Berks County in Pennsylvania,
and his soundwave sculptures,
he really manufactured them mostly in the 1960s.
The book that you've brought in with it,
what's really wonderful about this is
it's actually inscribed to your friend Ian
and signed by Harry, which is a wonderful thing.
Bertoia's works aren't signed,
and there are some fakes out there,
so this really reinforces that we know this is by Bertoia.
It is made of bronze,
and then there are vertical rods of bronze
that are soldered very closely together.
Earlier on, when we were talking,
it was actually vibrating just ever so slightly.
What is very interesting
is that in the 1990s, one of Bertoia's children--
he died in 1978--
discovered a huge cache of vinyl records
that Bertoia had made,
and they were recordings of his sonambient sculptures.
Wow, I didn't know that.
I think there were 11 versions in the end,
but it was a huge cache of these vinyl presses,
and they sold and they went into the market.
I've never heard one.
I'm sure they're quite interesting to hear.
These works come up not infrequently at auction.
Occasionally,
his publics works pieces come up for auction as well,
but these smaller pieces, they come up,
they're highly sought after and highly desirable.
Have you ever considered what it might be worth?
I've seen what some of the non-sound pieces are worth,
and I actually thought-- and I know what the big ones
belonging to institutions are worth--
I actually thought this just might be a study
for one of the larger works.
We've done some research,
and I wasn't able to find that this reflected a study
for any larger ones.
That's not to say that there's not one out there.
If this were to come up for auction,
I recommend keeping the book with the inscription with it.
While I don't believe it would increase the auction estimate,
it can only enhance the ultimate sales price of the piece.
If we were to see this come up for auction today,
we're very, very confident
that an auction estimate would be $20,000 to $25,000.
Wow, nice.
Thank you.
His public works pieces bring considerably more.
In 2014, October of 2014,
one of his public works pieces sold for $440,000.
It's a real treat,
and thank you for bringing it in to Roadshow.
Appreciate it.
(rods chiming)
WOMAN: These are my husband's and my father-in-law's
kidney belts for when they rode a rigid.
Now everything's a soft tail, so you really don't need these,
but they're still cool.
This is my father-in-law here, and he rode his Indian
to work every day until he retired,
and they would laugh
when he would come into work in the snow, but he did.
He rode an Indian, and this is his belt here.
My husband rides Harley-Davidsons,
and this was his belt when he was in his cool stage.
(both laughing)
You're always in your cool stage when you're riding a Harley.
And this was a hat that he wore, only he wore it backwards.
And you?
I rode with my husband, I used to ride,
and then a friend of ours got injured
and it kind of scared me, so I ride with my husband.
But you're still on the back?
Yes, I am.
And you don't need these.
No, no.
Well, that's a good reason why.
Although the older we get, we might go back to them.
People don't know a lot about kidney belts.
You see belts on people in stores
when they're moving stuff today,
but kidney belts were one of the first items
that were actually made for motorcycle riders
and were used by motorcycle riders
because think about it: back in the 1920s,
you're not riding these beautiful highways
like you are today;
you're riding these choppy roads with ruts,
and you didn't have suspension and shocks
like you have today.
These belts were made to protect your kidneys.
Absolutely.
They were made originally just like leather jackets,
to protect you, but they've become fashionable.
Starting in the 1920s,
they were produced by several different companies.
Motorcycle riders are a breed unto their own, right?
So, you could create your own belt with certain studs.
Buco was a big company that made belts.
That's Buco right here, they are out of Detroit,
and you could buy standard
or you could have them personalized.
You could put your initials,
you could put conch shells on there.
You could do sequins, whatever you wanted to do.
Your father-in-law's is even cooler,
because riding an Indian, what else would he have?
You wanted to be the chief.
These belts were probably made circa 1940s, maybe 1950s.
These started getting phased out in the '50s and '60s.
Roads got better,
motorcycle shock absorption and suspension got better,
and by the '70s and '80s,
they were pretty well phased out.
You only see them in motocross riders today.
Right, mm-hmm.
The Buco belts sell generally,
depending on what the design is on them,
anywhere between $300 and $400.
Really ornate ones or unusual
can sell for as high as maybe $1,000.
This, because it's so unusual, would sell for a little bit more
with the chief on there, $500 to $700.
Wow!
And the hats are great.
The hats have been made by Harley for years,
and those are going to sell, depending on condition,
between $200 and $500.
Wow!
So if this were to sell at auction,
I would say it would sell
somewhere between $1,000 and $1,600.
Wonderful!
And you know what they say: accessories make the outfit.
They do, absolutely!
It's hard to tell if you don't look,
but I'm not real sure.
WOMAN: It's a Martin D-28, yeah.
Looks like it could have been a banner
that they carry into a procession.
MAN: I'm going to send you to textiles, okay?
WOMAN: She was given to my mother or grandmother in 1940,
and the doll was dated back to 1885,
according to what her memory was.
APPRAISER: This is a French doll, made about 1885,
and if you look at it, it's got a closed mouth,
paperweight glass threaded eyes, very good quality bisque,
the original wig.
The size is what's so unusual.
It's a very desirable size now
because most people that are still collecting dolls
are downsizing, so they want this size.
She's made by a French firm called Jumeau,
which was one of the prolific doll firms in France
at that time period.
The dress appears to be original.
Also, what makes her a little bit more unusual is
she's on a shoulder plate.
Oh, yeah!
A lot of times, they were on composition bodies,
but this is an earlier version on a shoulder plate.
And it's a portrait Jumeau.
Unfortunately, she has a hairline crack.
If she was perfect,
she would be worth anywhere between $2,500 and $4,000.
Wow.
Being that she has a hairline crack,
it's about $1,500 to $2,000.
Wow, I had no idea.
No, I really didn't, for real.
This is amazing, thank you so much, Floyd.
I am so appreciative of this.
WOMAN: These are a couple pictures that my father picked up
at an auction in Madison, Indiana.
He loved collecting art.
And he bought a collection of these by Belle Hoffman,
and he didn't know anything about her,
just loved the paintings.
There were 13 in the group.
Then he did some research
and found out she was from Cleveland.
Supposedly, she was a buyer for the Higbee Company,
which was a department store in Cleveland.
He had some postcards that came with the collection,
and supposedly she went to Grace Kelly's wedding
and knew Ava Gardner, and this...
Oh, my!
Yes, Ava Gardner had sent her this postcard,
talking about Grace Kelly's wedding.
So she traveled in some very heady circles.
She did, and I know she traveled overseas
because one of my paintings is from Capri,
where she painted, in Italy.
Well, I'm not surprised,
because after you showed me these pictures,
I got quite interested in Belle Hoffman,
and I've done some very quick research
and I've been very impressed with Belle.
Belle was apparently quite a woman.
She began her career here in Cleveland
as a dress designer,
and studied art at the art school here in Cleveland
and also at the New York Art Students League
and became a painter,
and in 1912, at the ripe old age of 23,
gathered together a group of like-minded young women
and founded the Cleveland Women's Art Club,
which had its first meeting
in her studio
in the Gage Galleries here in Cleveland.
Oh, my gosh.
And I've read a couple of really interesting
newspaper articles about that,
both contemporary with the founding
and recent, in which she is described variously
as articulate and outspoken, and no shrinking violet,
and well-versed in the New York City
commercial art world,
and that the club was very lucky to have her as its spokeswoman
and I think leader at the time.
She was quite a force, and they pointed out
that not only was she a wonderful painter,
but that unlike most of the other women in the group
who painted or made art in other media,
primarily, they had to teach to earn their livings,
and she was able to earn her living as a designer,
so I guess she was sort of a cut above.
Wow.
She did spend a lot of time
in Gloucester and Provincetown and that area in the summers
in the 1918, 1919 period.
She was influenced by the Impressionists in France.
This beach scene is a perfectly lovely example of that genre,
with the sparkling sun and waves and children.
This picture is a lively example.
I saw another version of it,
and it was entitled "The Red Cross Fair,"
so it's a particular event.
In this one, you can see her handling of the paint
and how incredibly colorful,
and these flags moving in the wind and so on.
She's an extremely accomplished painter.
Since she signed them clearly but did not date them,
it's a little difficult,
but I would suspect that the beach scene dates
from the year she was on the New England shore,
1918, 1919.
And this picture one would assume,
based on the costumes and so on, might date from the '20s.
Oh, wow.
At the same time, it's possible
she was doing subjects later that were from an earlier date.
They both are oil paintings.
When your father bought the group,
do you have any idea how much he paid for it?
I think he paid around...
between, like, $98 and $100 for it.
For the entire group of how many?
The entire collection, 13.
Of 13 items, and how many of them do you have?
He gave me three of them in... oh, about five years ago.
My sister also got three.
My daughter has one.
And what's happened to the rest of them?
My mother is still alive, and they are in her collection.
Her prices at auction are few and far between
and not particularly high.
Okay.
There are no pictures comparable to these
except one version of this composition here.
So, it's a little bit of a seat-of-the-pants appraisal,
but my colleagues and I have agreed that
because these pictures are so lovely
and commercially desirable,
that each one of them would probably
carry an estimate of between $7,000 and $9,000.
Oh wow, that's great.
Thank you, that's amazing, yeah!
That's a great investment, wow.
It certainly is.
WOMAN: This has come down through my family,
which is originally from the Pittsburgh area
since the time that Pittsburgh was even founded,
and I think I might be the fifth or sixth generation
that has had it.
It came through my mom's side of the family.
Way back, we had some maiden aunts
whose dad was a financier in Pittsburgh.
It came through them,
and they called it a hot chocolate set.
And do you know who made it or where it's from?
No, my grandmother always told me it was Sèvres,
and I hope I'm saying that correctly.
Right, you said it correctly.
First of all, we look at the mark on the bottom,
and right here on the bottom, we have the word "France,"
so we know where it's from, it's from France,
and then above that is a Sèvres mark,
but actually, it is a Sèvres-style mark.
And virtually almost everything
that is marked with a Sèvres mark
was not actually made by Sèvres.
Okay.
In this case,
this particular set was not made by Sèvres.
We don't know who made this set, but it probably doesn't matter.
Now, because it says the word "France,"
we know it was made after 1891,
so this is probably 1890s, 1910.
It is exceptionally good quality.
I mean, this is magnificent in terms of quality.
Fantastic.
And it would seem strange that someone would manufacture
something with a fake mark that is such high quality.
You'd think they'd want credit for it.
Exactly.
All of the scenes are entirely hand-painted on it.
All of the gold detailing, which is raised,
which is a much more expensive process than flat,
is all done by hand.
And some of the backgrounds are iridescent,
and around the turn of the century,
that was kind of a new thing.
It's iridescent like Tiffany glass iridescent.
And so that was very popular in this time period.
And you've got several different colors of iridescence
in the design,
so that's another thing that helps date it.
Now, it really doesn't look
that much like what real Sèvres made.
The shapes are similar, but not exactly.
Now, this particular color in French porcelain
is usually called rose pompadour,
which is a term that Sèvres originated,
with the pink rose color.
And what we would call this is a cabaret.
A cabaret is a two-piece coffee set.
Someone could have certainly served
whatever they wanted to in it,
but probably what they did was put it on display.
Right, right.
Now, your family that originally had it,
did they have much money?
They were very wealthy.
They were early in the steel industry in Pittsburgh,
they were contemporaries of the Fricks and the Carnegies,
and they traveled,
all that whole early 1900s lifestyle
that you see on Downton Abbey.
I think they were very much like that.
Right, well, that is no surprise
because the quality is so high,
when this was new, around 1900,
this would have been some of the most expensive porcelain
that you could have bought.
Get out!
It would have cost an immense amount of money.
Certainly, they could have bought it
in France or in travels, but they could have bought it
at the best stores in Pittsburgh or Boston or New York.
Now, despite the fact that
it was not actually made by Sèvres,
it still has really nice value,
and in today's market, I would think that
a retail value for this set
would be between $5,000 and $7,000.
(voice breaking): Thank you, that's great.
It is a nice set.
Thank you.
I'm hoping that they think it's worth more than $100.
$100 is my make-or-break point.
These are the ones made stained glass for homes.
Correct, yeah, it's not liturgical.
It's a great scene,
and the nautical scene will help sell it.
MAN: My dad served in the Army map-making division
during World War II.
He was stationed in Paris,
and he and another group of American soldiers
got to visit various artists' studios.
Le Corbusier was one,
and at the end of the session that they had, the artist said,
"Please, help yourself to my drawings and watercolors."
So my dad took this piece and another sgraffito card
and gifted them to me about ten years ago.
Charles-EÉdouard Jeanneret-Gris,
better known as Le Corbusier, was born in Switzerland in 1887
and was a true renaissance character.
He was an architect, an urban planner, an artist,
and wrote many, many theories
about architecture and how people should live,
and how people should live well.
In his artwork, what he strived to do
is see the figure as structure,
as almost architectural structure.
It's a terrific watercolor.
And based on the style and your provenance with the piece,
I would date it to circa 1940, 1945.
At auction, I would value it between $15,000 and $25,000.
Wow, that's great.
WOMAN: It's been in my family I don't know how long,
but my uncle brought it from Switzerland
probably in 1905, and I knew it all my life.
I never was allowed to touch it,
so I didn't know that the bear's head moves
when you put something in it like a pipe or something.
But it may be older than that because my family owned
a restaurant and inn in Switzerland,
so it probably came from there.
So I don't really know its age.
In this business, we look at objects all the time,
and to me, the best ones
are the ones that just make your eyes dance around.
And if you look at the bear on the bottom down here,
I mean, he looks all ferocious and everything.
(laughs)
And lucky for you and your family
that your relatives
would not let anybody play with him.
(laughs)
Because it's got some moving parts on it.
Yes, it does.
One thing I noticed is this box has got a broken hinge.
That would be easy enough to fix.
And the other thing I noticed was that this little...
this ashtray section here has been replaced.
I suppose so, that's what I figured.
Yeah, it probably had a covered wooden box
or something there to begin with.
And he's just so well carved all the way around.
The cool thing about him is
you could put him in between two chairs
and you could come at him from all four sides,
and it would still look fabulous.
And one last thing I noticed when I lifted up his head,
you can still smell the pipe tobacco down in there.
Yeah.
So that was probably a humidor.
Most people refer to these as Black Forest carvings.
Oh.
Which is really not exactly right,
because there was a school of wood carvers
in Brienz, Switzerland,
and they started up in the early to mid-19th century.
And by 1905, they were very well established,
and 1884, they actually started the Brienz School of Woodcarving
to keep that tradition going, and it's still in existence.
And if you look on a map,
Brienz is right at the end of a lake,
and it's in an area where the temperature
is very temperate, and it's the kind of place
that a lot of people would go to
when they would go on the grand tour.
And what happened was probably with your family living there,
they probably knew somebody that did this
and bought it from them,
maybe even had it in the restaurant,
although I kind of doubt it in a way
because it's in such good condition.
So for purposes of dating it, let's just say circa 1900,
could be late 19th century.
But it's so well done,
that's what sort of elevates it another level
above most of the carvings that you see like this.
And in these, size matters, too.
It's nice that it's a nice big one.
It's carved out of probably walnut.
His eyes are actually glass, and it was done in Brienz.
I talked to several of my tablemates,
and we feel like that a good insurance value on this
would be $5,000.
Oh boy.
(chuckles)
Well, thank you.
WOMAN: These posters belonged to my father.
They're part of a collection.
He grew up in northern Minnesota.
Of course, he loved to ski.
Over the years, he just started writing away
and accumulating what we have before us.
My grandfather owned a short line railroad
in northern Minnesota--
the MRL and M, Minneapolis Red Lake Manitoba--
and so hence the railroad connection.
They rode the rails as children and adults,
so many of my posters
do have a railroad affiliation.
Yeah, they do.
Both of these, the Union Pacific and the Canadian Pacific,
are posters that were issued by the railroad
in order to get people to ride the trains along their route.
They weren't necessarily promoting skiing, per se;
they were promoting train travel.
Sun Valley was founded and formed
in the 1930s by Averell Harriman,
who was actually the chairman of the Union Pacific Railroad.
And he thought rather cleverly that if we can give people
something to do on the train trip
from New York to California,
they're going to ride the trains more.
So they basically created the resort of Sun Valley
just for that reason.
It's interesting, the artist is Austrian-- August Moser.
To the best of my understanding,
it was early on in the American ski tourism industry.
They had to go to Europe, where there was a longer tradition
of travel posters featuring ski areas,
and so they chose an Austrian artist.
Okay.
Well, we know the approximate date,
mid-1930s for the Sun Valley poster.
The Canadian Pacific poster is roughly the same era,
probably a little bit closer to 1940.
It's anonymously done, as were many of the posters
for the Canadian Pacific Railway.
Skiing posters are very, very popular.
And originally,
these were just considered railway advertisements.
And many years ago,
they could have been bought quite cheaply
by people who were railway enthusiasts.
Nowadays, as ski memorabilia,
they've become more and more sought after.
The more valuable of the two is the one that's closer to me.
What makes a ski poster most desirable
is the ski resort that it's promoting.
Okay.
Location, location, location.
And in the world of ski posters,
Sun Valley really is one of the marquee locations.
Now, the poster next to you has come up for auction
several times in the last decade.
And at auction, it sells for between $1,500 and $2,000.
Now, the poster closest to me,
which we can date to between 1933 and 1936
based only on the Union Pacific logo,
and I have to point out that Sun Valley
first began operating in 1936,
so that makes this one of the earliest
of the Sun Valley posters.
At auction, I would estimate this poster
between $4,000 and $6,000.
And I have to say that in the last 12 years,
it's only come up for auction twice,
which is an indication of its rarity.
And the last time it came up for auction,
it sold for more than $10,000.
Oh my gosh.
Yours is not in great condition.
The colors are a little bit faded,
and there are some creases
that you can see in the top corners.
So the two of these, estimated between $5,500 and $8,000.
Wow.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
That's wonderful.
(chuckles)
I will treasure them more.
I go to, sometimes, mansions and large house sales.
Yes.
And I bought some carpets at this house sale.
A friend of mine was with me, and he needed the carpets.
And he asked me if I would trade him those small pieces
or pieces of carpet for this rug.
And I traded him, and that's how I got this rug.
Okay, do you remember how much you paid for the carpets
you traded for this?
Between $50 and $100.
And do you have any idea what type of carpet this is?
No, I don't.
First and foremost,
it's an antique Persian Fereghan carpet
that was woven in the early 20th century,
circa 1910.
It comes from the northern part of Persia,
and these rugs are known for being woven
in all-over patterns.
The pattern of this example shows the gul henna plant.
It's referred to as the gul henna pattern.
And "gul" in Farsi translates to "flower."
So it's showing the flowers of the henna plant.
If you look at the carpet,
you can see you've got a diamond grid lattice
enclosing gul henna plants.
Another item that's very good about this carpet
is the fact that it's on a light background.
Most of the Fereghan carpets that come into the market
are on dark blue backgrounds.
So, a large part of the value of this
is the decorative aspect of it, and the decorative trends
have leaned more towards lighter colors than darker colors.
Another thing that's good is the all-over pattern.
Most of the carpets that are out there
have center medallions,
and that can lead to problems when placing them in spaces.
So you have a little more flexibility
as to how you could put this in a home and use it in a space.
And finally, a very large attribute
that significantly raises the value of this
is that it comes in a square size.
The rug's about nine by ten,
and most carpets come in standardized sizes
of eight by ten, nine by 12.
So when you come across a carpet that's got an unusual size,
it will enhance the value.
Now, with all of those benefits,
of course the condition will come into play,
and that's going to take a little bit away
from the value on this carpet
because it's got a fair amount of wear.
You can see certain areas here where the foundation is showing.
Another thing is that
it appears to have been overtinted at some point,
and this may have been the result of a bad chemical dye
that was originally put into the rug,
so what they have done is
they've enhanced this pink color in certain areas.
And you can see that this color has run
in certain areas, most likely when the rug
was sent out to be cleaned in the past.
Okay.
In this condition, this rug would sell
for $1,500 in the auction market.
However, if it was in better condition,
you'd be looking at something
that was worth $5,000 in the auction market.
That's very good.
So thank you so much for bringing it in today.
Oh, thank you so much.
♪ ♪
They thought the piece
originally was from Transylvania.
It's actually probably from Vienna.
I mean, it would be wonderful to think that it was,
given the bats that we have on it.
WOMAN: The girl is
my great-grandmother's great-grandmother.
All of us at the folk art table all loved it.
At auction, it would be $5,000 to $10,000.
Nice!
WOMAN: I brought a wooden bud vase.
I collect bud vases, and I picked this one up
at, I think, a church bazaar,
and didn't really notice anything about it
until I was dusting it one day.
There is actually a signature,
well, kind of a signature on the bottom.
I found the name "Doug Ayers" on the internet
as a wood sculptor, and that's all I could find.
I know nothing about this guy.
He actually was a California artist
working in Mendocino, California.
Most of his work was begun
in the late 1970s and in the 1980s,
part of the modern Arts and Crafts movement.
Did you pay much money for it?
No, I mean, I'm guessing it was about five dollars.
I don't pay much for any of the bud vases I buy.
You're a pretty good shopper.
Can I take you shopping with me?
Great.
A couple of things have come up on the marketplace for him
at auctions in recent years.
And there were two or three of them
that sold in the range of $300.
Okay.
And then there are some current listings online retail
where they are being offered for about $700.
Oh, wow.
So your few dollar purchase was pretty good, huh?
I love it.
In 1972, I worked with a gentleman,
and we scuba-dove together.
He had a Rolex watch, and we went diving.
I thought it would be nice to have a watch like that,
so he went to Jamaica,
picked it up at the Freeport store for me,
and I've owned the watch since 1972
and have worn it almost every day until about 2008.
This is the original purchase price of the watch?
That's correct.
$100 and...?
$129.
And this is the store that it was purchased in.
That's correct, out of Montego Bay.
And then this is the original warranty
that came with the watch.
That's correct.
And you also have
all the other accompanying paperwork
that you had showed me before.
Yes, I do.
How deep did you go?
We went to about 90 feet,
so I can't claim that I took it as deep as it said it could go.
So the watch was purchased in 1972
and made within a few months of that time period,
so it's a 1971, 1972 watch.
This is called the Red Submariner.
This is the first version of the Submariner
that had a date on it.
And they've started putting the "Red" name on it
for about five or six years.
Previous to that, it was a "no date" sub.
Okay.
So this watch has been increasingly more popular,
and right now, there's a monstrous cult following
for what they call the Red Sub.
Rolex is one of the premier sports watch brands
in the world.
They're noted for dependency,
they're noted for their waterproofness.
The versions today now have sapphire crystals,
whereas yours was plastic.
They keep making improvements, but the vintage watches,
people just love the watch
and just worldwide, clamor for the watch.
And it's always been since the early days
one of the top watches in the world
and is for sure the most popular watch in the world.
Very interesting.
All Rolex watches are made in Geneva, Switzerland.
Have you ever had it repaired?
Yes.
I had it cleaned and a new crystal put on it,
and I have the paperwork for that.
It's a good thing that
at whatever point you sent it to Rolex
they didn't do the work on it,
because Rolex tries to bring the watch
up to today's standards.
Doing that to this watch
would have diminished the value tremendously.
They would not be able to put the red dial on,
so if you would have come in today,
it would have had a standard dial,
and it would have been worth probably a fraction
of what it could be as an original piece.
Interesting.
So in the retail market,
this watch would have a value of about $15,000 to $17,000
given that you have all the original papers
and you've not had the watch refinished
or any major work done to it.
It's amazing that you've been able to wear it
all those years, enjoy it,
and turn $129 into $15,000 to $17,000.
Congratulations.
Amazing.
Thank you.
WOMAN: I bought it in 1963.
It was the summer, and I used the money
out of my very first paycheck to buy it.
I went to a bookstore, just fell in love with it,
and it was just solely for me,
and I've kept it all these years.
APPRAISER: Had you heard of Maurice Sendak before that?
Not at all, no.
It's Maurice Sendak's best known book,
and what you bought is the true first edition.
And the only way that you can tell a first edition
of Where the Wild Things Are is if it has its dust jacket.
The book won the Caldecott Prize,
and when the book won the Caldecott Prize,
the publishers affixed a gold seal saying so
to the front covers.
Then I looked inside at the dust jacket flap,
and I saw that the price was $3.50,
which is the correct price
for first issues of that dust jacket,
and that the code down at the bottom
was the right code
for first editions of that dust jacket: "1163."
Then I looked for mention of the Caldecott Award,
because as soon as Sendak
won the Caldecott Award for this book,
the dust jacket changed
to include mention of that Caldecott Award.
So not only was there this seal on the outside of it,
but it says, "Maurice Sendak, Caldecott Award-winning author."
And there's no copy on the front flap,
and on the back flap of the dust jacket,
there's nothing here about the Caldecott Award.
Boom, winner.
It's a first printing
of Where the Wild Things Are.
As soon as you lose the dust jacket to this book,
which is such a wonderful dust jacket--
I mean, there's a wild thing right there--
it loses almost all of its value.
So in dust jacket, a fine copy of this book.
I don't expect that you would know
the value of this book, do you?
$3.50.
(laughs)
A fine copy of this book is worth $7,500.
But there's a little bit of wear to this book.
Yes.
There's some tearing,
and there's a little bit of age toning.
The retail value of this book in this condition is $4,500,
so still a good profit
from the $3.50 that you paid as a teenager.
Yeah, I never bought it
to collect or make money off of it.
Yeah.
And I still love it dearly.
My mother said I was a fool to spend my money on it,
and I can tell you, I feel very vindicated now.
Yeah.
♪ ♪
WOMAN: I thought kind of hard
when I bought it at an antique shop
that had said Le Roy was
an English portrait painter.
Louis Vuitton also made them,
and those examples, they're worth a lot of money.
When they're in this type with the dome top,
they sell for around $100 to $200.
MAN: What is that?
We're not really sure.
We're hoping you guys could tell us.
It has been in my family since probably about the '30s.
My great-great-uncle was a doorman in New York City,
and somebody gave it to him when they were moving out.
And then it went to my great-grandmother.
When she passed away, it came to my mother,
and about 15 years ago, my mom gave it to me
because she knew how much I loved the piece.
We've always referred to it as the music stand.
We're not really sure what it is,
but that's how we've referred to it.
And my mother used to have the record player on it
when I was a kid,
so I used to love listening to the records.
And we'd prop them in the front
so as we were playing the record,
the cover art would be on the front part propped up.
Oh, fun.
We don't see things like this every day.
First of all, it's interesting that it rotates.
I think it's a very good question:
what exactly is this?
Well, stylistically, this is bridging the gap
between the Art Nouveau style and the Arts and Crafts style.
And if you look, like, the carving at the end here,
it's very naturalistic and flowing,
very much in keeping with the Art Nouveau
that was flourishing in the 1890s.
At the same time, it has that oak
with the bright grain and the sort of austerity
and shape, at least, of the Arts and Crafts period.
So this falls right there on that line between the two.
But I love the silhouette
that's created by that naturalistic carving.
On the side, you've got the drawers there.
I do think this is a music stand or a portfolio stand.
Okay.
The drawers are just the right size
for a folded sheet of music at that period.
And we can just rotate it around here.
Look at all of this dramatic openwork carving.
This was made
by a very charismatic American by the name of Charles Rohlfs.
Rohlfs made this probably about 1905,
and he was working in Buffalo, New York, in that period.
Under here, there is a little cipher,
and it's meant to look like a saw and a sickle.
Okay, right.
And it has an "R" in it, and that is for Charles Rohlfs.
He thought of his works as real originals,
and he liked to say that they didn't refer to any other style,
that they were just out of his mind,
and it was his passion and love for them
that brought life into them
and made people love these things.
That's cool.
It is very distinctive.
And part of what I love about this is
Rohlfs wanted this to be a mystery.
He wanted it to be something that people puzzled over
and said, "What is that?"
Both in ornament and in function,
it's an open question.
Works of Charles Rohlfs are in museums all over the country.
There has been a major exhibition
of the works of Charles Rohlfs in recent years,
so this piece is a treasure.
Now, I want to know,
what does your husband think of this?
(laughs)
My husband has been wanting to put it on the fire pit
because it's in such bad shape,
but my question was, was it worth investing
to get it back in a better condition?
Your husband's going to have a hard time living it down
after this, I think.
I would estimate at auction, this piece is worth
between $40,000 and $60,000.
Oh my gosh.
I think we'll invest the money.
So I'd stay away from the fire pit.
Okay.
It has been refinished at some point.
It would have been a dark, smokier color.
Okay.
If you do want to have the piece conserved,
it's going to be expensive
because you need a very highly trained person to do it,
and there are a number of different areas
that need attention.
I would guess you could spend $5,000 conserving the piece,
and I would guess it could add maybe two or three times
the cost of your conservation to the value of the piece.
Okay.
And now it's time for the Roadshow Feedback Booth.
I brought this very rare, exquisite,
hard-to-find Queen Elizabeth coronation cup
that when I showed it to the appraiser,
told me they only made
about 60 or 70 million of these things.
It's worth about nine dollars if you find the right buyer.
We had no idea what this strange risqué woman was.
Our appraiser was embarrassed that he knew what it was,
but it is a Naughty Nelly boot jack.
And she's going to be my new bathroom doorstop.
Watch was appraised today,
wasn't worth as much as I thought,
but watch very closely: you're getting sleepy.
Yes, you're going to pay me $75,000.
And I had my nails done special for the Roadshow,
and I had a great time.
My nails aren't quite as pretty, but I still had a good time.
I was hoping that this here necklace
would afford me the following conversation,
or just telling my manager,
"Hey, I wouldn't be in for the foreseeable future."
But alas, I'm still a barista.
I think it's Colonel Mustard in the dining room
with a candlestick holder.
You mean the early 1900 Austrian candlestick?
No, I mean the bronze Japanese early 1900s candlestick holders.
BOTH: Thanks, Roadshow!
We had a great time.
WALBERG: I'm Mark Walberg, thanks for watching.
See you next time on Antiques Roadshow.
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