This is DeliveranceMinistry.FM Videocast episode 10.
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This is Dr Don Ibbitson and I'm here once again with my co-host Dr Phyllis Tarbox, and
today we're going to take a look at generational curses that are common to Hispanics frequently
seen, if you like, in Hispanic heritage.
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We've talked a lot.
I haven't given my co-hosts a chance to talk yet.
So, Phyllis, how are you today?
And I'm good and I know that you're going to love this, this episode because this is
something very near and dear to your heart.
The whole realm of generational curses.
We did a episode nine, was on kind of a high level flyby about generational curses, common
ethnic groups.
And as I said then it's bears repeating.
A lot of the material things we're covering is you just started writing a series of articles
right on, on common things coming when it started to look like the same story over and
over again.
And I'm going to make that comment about how when I started the first deal with the Hispanic
population I had that I couldn't keep track of because the stories were almost identical.
And that's what, that's what kind of started to peak my interest was that, you know, I
had a hard time separating the two.
I mean, they really were almost the same.
And so yeah, different, different people groups.
Right, right, right.
But here in Florida, as we've said before, the Hispanic group is, is a group that really
gets deliverance.
And so, um, you know, they've seen it in different places, but the church churches in their different
countries are more open to deliverance, right.
As they say, they believe in it.
Sometimes it scares them because some of the things I've seen are pretty whack you with
it.
Remember that we did that.
We did that one time.
We went out to Hispanic Church and um, they shunned us and I've grown up.
My friends, my best friends all through by early years are Hispanic.
So I know that there's always a lot of that chatter, you know, in the Hispanic population
that's like the Yada Yada, Yada, Yada, Yada.
You'd get together with them and there's a lot of talking.
But when we got out there to this particular church, they shunned us.
Do you remember?
They didn't come up to us and talk to us at all, but they were afraid that we were going
to try to sit on them or beat up, beat the spirits out of.
They were only there out of the obedience to the pastor.
But, uh, when they realized that we were an ordered group and we did things quietly and
with the holy spirit and gently then they, after they were over, they were like our best
friends, you know, and that helped us more Hispanic people come in.
So it started with that.
Just kept logging.
We've done recently, we talked about Hispanics, African Americans on the German heritage and
the Irish obviously there's many more ethnic groups basically started assembling a logging.
Some of the common themes that you've seen, not that every person that comes in has every
one of these things.
Certainly common themes because of what we would call generational curses and things
in the bloodline, right?
Sins of the father.
And so they do those spirits do repeat in the family of bloodline because we've talked
about this before because they're lazy.
They don't want to learn a whole different family bloodline.
They know the kind of behavior that's gone on in that family.
And so it just kind of passes down from generation to generation and you see the same thing happening.
Know we've talked about before.
Like I said, we're not gonna go over it all again, but what we believe is the Bible's
very clear.
Jesus became a curse for us on the cross.
He became a curse.
So the curse has been broken, but the spirits can still be operating in a person's life.
And really when you distill it all down, deliverance ministry is the driving out of spirits.
Spirits can still be in a person's line and they can be upon him even as a child in their
mother's womb and bring me.
Trans people don't understand that.
So that's why this whole realm, generational curses is so important and you know, it's,
it's a huge open door and lives and you're right.
A lot of people think that the things that they will move with, they've been born with
and they have because it isn't their family bloodline, so we mentioned before, but it
bears repeating it so important to like half, maybe half or two thirds or some significant
portion of the issues.
People deal with things in the blood lines.
So that's an overview.
Quick overview, brief of, of, of generational curses things down through the bloodline.
Let's focus in on the main topic in today's session, which is spirits that we see operating
most typically in people of Hispanic descent.
So what, what, what's the list?
Here's the list, abuse and molestation that includes incest, and I hate to say that, but
it's, it's true.
You know, you see a lot of the Hispanic families, um, that uh, first come over, whether it's
through immigration or whatever, and they, they first land living with large extended
family members.
So there's a lot of cousins, a lot of aunts, a lot of uncles either they live together,
they live close together, they're familiar and the abuse tends to come in through the
uncles and the cousins predominantly.
I've heard that over and over and over again.
Easy access, I guess as much if they're in a big family and
you know, their, their friend groups or their family.
I mean they tend to stay with their family.
So yeah, easy access is right.
So then also the last that's in the male ego.
I mean, that's, you know, the w, there's always that comment about the male machismo in the
Hispanic culture because really, I believe the mother's feed that they really cater to
the males in the family.
Now you'll see that a lot with the first born son sometimes with the baby middle child usually
seems to kind of slide through fairly well.
But the first born son is very tied to the Hispanic mother and, you know, they can do
no wrong a lot of times in their mama's eyes.
And so that there is a lot of steaming to that, a lot of to that.
And sadly there is a lot of lost that's assigned.
Um, it seems with the Hispanic culture as well.
So that goes through.
Then the third thing would be family division, um, because of broken commitments and divorces,
uh, some of which I think, you know, just in talking to some of my friends here that
are very well versed with this have said that, you know, from the islands, from Puerto Rico
and Cuba, oftentimes the men came over to the United States first.
Uh, they came over with full intention to bring over their family members from the islands
and it took longer for them to make the money that they needed to make to bring the extended
family over.
So the mom stayed with the family, um, in the homeland and really kinda took over things
and while the husband was here working and because of the male ego, oftentimes they weren't,
they weren't monogamous while they were here in the states that there was some adult trees,
some affairs and things like that that did break the family's divisions of sometimes
divorce, um, but also a lot of bitterness and the women.
So we'll see that, um, with family division, adultery and divorce and bitterness, a lot
of that, again, oftentimes there's the matriarchal patriarchal dominance that feels it feeds
into this.
They're very, um, heavy handed.
I'm father figure that resides over the family.
But then the mother also has a, has a controlling with the boys more to speak.
And so that seems to be repeating.
Then there is this part of the over promising overcommitting and underdelivering good-natured
want to do as much as they can.
Have a very good heart for service.
The Spanish population does they they love well and but a lot of times they'll over promise
a lot of the commitments and then they can't keep them.
And so those broken commitments again tend to follow down.
The family.
Bloodline, leisure time related issues is always been a joke with a lot of us.
You know, I had many clients that come in late time time issues with the Hispanic population.
They get it.
I mean there's, it's almost like a sub culture conversation that they have.
One of my, one of my clients asked me to meet her for lunch one day.
She had some things she, she, we were going to do outside of the church on a, on a, on
a church service and, and she told me to be there at one and I got there at one in, at
quarter till two.
I was about to leave and she laughed and she said, Oh, I forget.
Yeah, you Americans always show up on time, you know, we just have a lot.
We have a lot of leeway.
So you know, you just, you kind of move on with that.
Uh, the other thing, um, that of course is big with the Hispanic population.
Is that his Santeria in the land, um, any kind of witchcraft because oftentimes as we've
talked about this before, there's been a blending of typically Catholicism in Hispanic Church
and, or pentecostalism and then the, the San Antonia, or were they, the family members
would take the children to the arrows for different reasons.
Like we talked about washing or cleansing or you know, different types of love spouse
or whatever that was necessary at the time, but it's often mixed in.
I think it's probably worth for someone in mind, maybe listen to, you aren't familiar
with what Santa, they've heard this for the first time.
I mean it's at its core, you would call it a mixture of, of Catholicism and spiritism.
The Spaniards came over into the Caribbean and the countries they settled in, the natives
that were there had their own, a spiritist ways in their own way of worship.
And basically they got amalgamated to the natives.
They would use a mixture of as icons and spiritism and the cleansings of the things they do and
out of that, that's up a real quick explanation of Santa Maria and Santa Rosa and different
things and certainly a lot of places you've been to the United States, there's lots of
these sensory or centrals are called where you can get the sun are sand terrorists, the
priests and priestesses there.
So just add that in for.
So I may not be familiar with that term.
One.
One male client, I remember he was, he was from a long line of high priest or high [inaudible]
and he came in to be free and to walk through deliverance.
But when he came over here and there was a lot of very odd occultic practices and digging
up graves and things that he was involved in, um, that he had to be free.
But he noticed that those things were really following him with a lot of death curses.
Um, things in his life were just dying.
They weren't, you know, not.
He had almost been killed several times in car accidents because of the death things
that were assigned to some of the scenarios, a lot of, a lot of division, a lot of rivalry
and that sort of thing as well too.
So, uh, yeah, that all had to be broken off of him so that he could walk in, in life and
life to his marriages and everything else because everything had pretty much died because
of his involvement in that witchcraft, you know, it was in God's blessing on his life
at all
these curses.
You talked about it before about this realm of like curses on the land that can be involved
in this, right?
Yeah.
Well, I think, you know, the land, you know, in this, in the scriptures, it says the land
cries out.
I think that's in general genesis for [inaudible] from the sins of Cain and Abel and murder
in the land.
So that tells us that a lot of the things that are done on the land will actually cause
involvement.
It invites that spiritism, that spirit to that territory.
And it does cause problems overall.
So, uh, the generations that have followed, that have kept it in place.
Um, I know I've had several clients that have come over here to the United States that have
said it's like it has followed them from, like, one in particular was from Cuba and
she said she felt like her involvement in Santeria when she was in Cuba, followed her.
Um, she actually told me it felt like a target on her back, that every time she tried to
move forward it would just drag her back to Cuba.
She could never establish here fully and feel like she was moving in or calling because
of all the things that she had been involved with over there.
Her parents brought her when she was young to the San Pedro's and then she, you know,
obviously as a teenager, young children,
no, but sometimes they aren't willing to be involved in.
Right, right.
Well, she wanted a man, so she had a love spell conjured up to get him and pretty much
felt like that sabotage a lot of her future relationships because she had gotten involved
with no altering things in that regard.
So yeah, let me have, I had another woman that came in, she had no involvement.
Now this is a younger woman.
She was born over here.
She never went to anyone involved with St [inaudible], but she really felt like something.
Well actually we felt like something was going on as we prayed for her.
It was wild Don.
She sat there in the chair and we called out that spirit of witchcraft and San Antonia
and her eyes clicked solid black.
They look like snake eyes, you know, that just black.
And, and she started to do this, um, movement of the snake, like movement in the chair,
part part.
Part of me honestly wanted to see how far it would go, but I, but I didn't want to have
to physically restrain her.
But she was, she was a beautiful woman.
Looked like she walked off the pages of a fashion magazine.
And here she was like slithering on almost on the floor or the office when we were trying
to call out this spirit of Cynthia, but when witchcraft.
But what we ended up finding out was after we, we got a little bit into the deliverance,
was that she actually had an aunt that was very involved in it and prayed, prayed prayers
over her and dedicated her and did all sorts of things to her while she was just an infinite
or crib.
And when we got down to that root and that soul tie and we broke it, we were able to
call out those spirits.
You should break the soul tie to break the power of covered under that covenant.
Yep.
Yep.
That's important to a lot of the times we see that open doors people are family memory
and the bio and they will make our dedication.
Could be a satanic ritual.
And it sounds like in this realm in the Santa Maria or some other witchcraft, they dedicate
that child UN unbeknownst to the child that has demonic power over that person.
One of the, one of the other things I thought were interesting in the Hispanic culture,
and it does have to do with the mothers and the sons.
Um, but from my perspective, it was from the wives because I had these two women that came
in, actually three total.
They all came in with exactly the same story that their, they came over here with their
husbands to the states and then their husbands all went back to Puerto Rico, Cuba to where
the mother was.
The mother was praying the son's home in every situation, the first born sons that mom didn't
want them away.
And the boys always went back and were almost mesmerized by the mother,
godly soul tie to which we talk about.
Oh yeah.
I mean, it's a generational thing, but it's clearly an un-godly Barney for this reason.
A man is supposed to leave his mother and father and clearly that, that man is under
the influence, stolen, uncanny way of his mother.
Right?
That's a barney.
Well, even
though we did that, um, for these wives to try to get their husband's back, their husbands
didn't come back.
But the bond, the spiritual, I believe the spiritual draw of them actually already being
over there and underneath that, that spiritual covering of whatever with the mother, um,
was stronger than actually bringing them back here to the United States.
So I can't say that we had a lot of success in bringing the husband's home.
But we had a lot of success in setting the wife's free from the situation because they
walked out free.
I've seen that mirrored.
I've seen that with a lot of them that some of the male clients I've had in very, very
strong polar draw back to the, to the, to their native country many times in certainly
to their mother, their fathers or mothers.
It's that matriarchal, um, dominance and the main reason that anytime you touched on, I
think that the many of these families and you know, that the, that the mother has been
the one kind of leading, you know, in charge of leading the family, right?
Because the husbands are, they're just not involved or
maybe they work very hard worker.
So the husbands are working to provide.
And again, with the last of the male ego, a lot of times they're not loyal to the wives,
but so the wives turn their focus really to raising the family and focusing on the male
children.
The girls in these families, I'm not going to say they get overlooked, but they are not,
they're not protected as much.
And that's what I keep hearing from Hispanic women.
My mom wasn't there to really protected me from some of the abuse that went on.
Um, you know, we've had been on television with, with, with one of these shows on the
Oprah Winfrey show and, and a lot of that testimony was shared that there was abuse
in the family bloodline that perhaps some others didn't know about.
But typically I think a lot of times the moms don't want to hear it because they've actually
been through it themselves and they don't step into.
They don't wanna, they don't wanna have to think that their daughters are going through
the same thing.
And you know, maybe they closed their heart to it, I don't know.
But that the abuse that comes down through the family bloodline in the Hispanic population,
very rarely skips a generation.
And that's a really hard thing to say, um, because it doesn't, I mean I've had lots of
family members come in and share and then had the daughters come into, you know, and
some of my clients that have had, you know, mother daughter and now is a grand daughter
involved where we're being very proactive in a lot of these cases with the daughters
because we don't, you know, they know now and even though that they've broken, um, any
kind of inherited curse and they've had these spirits called out to them, it doesn't automatically
mean that these spirits aren't going to visit the grandchildren.
I mean, they're in the bloodline for the three and four generations.
And I'm in my sense is unless they're cleared out and they're not in for that length of
time, they're going to come back and revisit and try to get a new victims.
So I've actually been able to pray over the grandchildren in advance.
I like that to be offensive over these children's.
So those spirits, you know, that they're more protected and it's not going to happen, but,
but oftentimes, you know, that's, that's a really hard one to watch is that abuse
witness to too many times where the, where the why the women and the other adult women,
they have an recollecting reflecting back on that.
They realize many of them even went to their mother and told them what's happening.
Sometimes they would go and tell them, but the mothers didn't, wouldn't do anything or
sometimes they wouldn't blame them for bringing that on.
And I can, you know, that sort of damage that that does is, is, uh, is profound insecurity,
insecurity.
Their mother is not protecting their getting abused and maybe their mothers not protecting
them.
So that's, that's another open door.
I mean, abuse in general is an open door for demonic torments.
Certainly sexual abuses as well.
When it's, like you say, that generational thing like that, if it happened to the grandmother
or the mother, then then maybe they're just less inclined even to be able to step in and
protect their daughter if it happens to them.
So we've just seen that happen for sure,
absolutely.
But it is exciting to be able to start taking some of God given authority over these situations
and then seeing victory, uh, because you know, with, with the abuse on the children have
a lot of times, and I really hate to say this, but what's happening is the children that
are abused by men, the girls, they don't trust men now.
So the distrust seems to pattern with maybe some same sex, um, influence.
Now when that happens because of abuse, when they're young like that, we've had great success
in shifting it before it gets too far.
Especially with the girls.
Yeah.
We've seen that in a general sense.
It apart from any ethnic issues, many times women who are sexually abused as that's an
open door for demonic torment and spirits and ramble and different things and perversions
and is, that little girl gets older as you say, it couldn't
go down one or two paths, really drive her to be start becoming promiscuous.
And maybe you start sleeping with boys and an open door for things in that realm, or
as you mentioned, it can cause him to start resenting and hating men and start experimenting
with women.
And that opens the door option to that too.
And the third one is they become very walled off and they don't trust and they don't date
a lot and there is some sort of an internal mechanism that begins a little bit of an obsessive
compulsiveness, whether it's with the, any way they can get self control because they
lost it when they were abused when they were younger.
And so I've seen that, whether it's with over cleaning things or with, um, over managing
their time and being very self controlling and then that they're not trying to control
others, but they're controlling themselves and that has sabotage their relationships
with their husbands because of that distrust and that control, so can work that way too.
So that's pretty much most of what, what it is now that the common fruits that, that emanates
from these, um, with abuse and molestation again, would be distrusting bitterness.
Um, and again, the repetition of it almost always hitting the next generation and the
hard part with that is even with the parents that have been so, um, so offensive in protecting
their children from getting into this.
What's, what's sad to me is you'll hear the parents say, I never let anybody outside of
the family take care of my children.
I was always very, very conscientious about who watched my children because I didn't want
the same things to happen to them.
And then you'll see it come in with either a cousin or brother and a sister and it's
right there in the family that happens.
So it's difficult to protect again with the, with the, the fruit from the lust, the male
ego.
What would happen would be adultery.
Oftentimes abortions, which brings in a murderous spirit, a family division, broken commitments.
I'm broken vows that leads to divorces.
And then other broken commitments, things like bankruptcy, foreclosures, a lot of things
in that nature will happen.
And then those things, they'll tend to follow the next generation with poverty and debt
issues and a lot of struggle because of the broken commitments.
So there fore fathers and so that will come in with the matriarchal, patriarchal dominance,
spirits of control and generally rebellion and the children.
And I see rebellion and disrespect in the Hispanic children somewhat because of the
high regard that's, that's required for respect of the Hispanic parents.
You know, oftentimes a lot of the people that are here are first generation.
The children are the first teenagers grown up in America here and they're not.
They're Americans.
Americans, they're being raised here in America and they've got Hispanic parents that are
more old school and expecting that respect level that they gave to their parents and
they would never think about talking to their parents the way their children talk to them.
And there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of division, a lot of rebellion that comes
in with the children.
So they really want.
They want the freedom that all the other kids have here too.
So you'll see a lot of that going on.
And of course disrespecting the parents will bring curses upon the next generation because
that next generation will disrespect the parents.
Even warm with leisure and time related problems, I see a lot of lethargy and oftentimes apathy
a, it's kind of like almost an entitlement thing where there's an expectation, uh, for
certain things or even an I don't care, type of an attitude that comes along with that,
with the time and the leisure.
I often break word curses that come in with, you know, I just don't really care anymore.
Or I gave up a long time ago and that sort of thing because that apathy will steal, you
know, ambition and goals and things that have to do with that.
Lot of times with school you'll see because they can't keep the timing or they don't fit.
I've heard it over and over again that I've never finished anything I've started and so
those broken commitments keep them from really prospering in the apathy of finishing is what
we need to break.
So we'll cancel anything that's been spoken that they've spoken out of their own mouths
about.
I don't care.
I never finish.
I always break.
My commitments will cancel that.
And then we're seeing them actually do things like finish their nursing programs in their
schools and different things like that, which had been really good.
Um, but of course, then again, the [inaudible] brings in a lot of spiritual implications.
Um, and we've kind of talked about some of those already so that, that would be a lot
of the fruit that's related to some of these things.
Well, I think that's a, that's a pretty good list and as we expected, our gain more knowledge
in all of these areas will maybe do more of these and expand on so well in general and
when we see these kind of things in a bloodline were Hispanic or anything else, we want to
deal with these in a deliverance ministry context.
And so, um, how do we do that?
What's, what's your normal approach when you, when you're going through the interview and
you're praying for somebody and you see and hear in the story the interview that these
things are in their family, what do you do?
How do you deal with that?
Well, you know, we have their homework that they go through and they, you know, they confess
the sins of their fore fathers will, will cancel those.
I, I listen really closely when they tell me their story and I make a very detailed
list of everything that could be operating in their life and how it relates to the generational
things and almost go at it a little bit of Ad Nauseum I think because I'm a detail person
and I think it's very important for them to realize that we've touched on this and then
when we call we then we can call the spirits out that were related to all of that.
And then when they're done, they know we've, we've hit it very comprehensively, back generations.
And I'll go back to the beginning of the generational rain on a lot of these things and oftentimes
we'll go farther just to get it all under the blood of Jesus Christ so that these spirits
can't come back.
You know, and I think for a lot of us, we've hit deliverance a little here, a little there,
trimmed a little here, trimmed a little there, but we never really have hit it full on from
a comprehensive point.
And you know, you and I are like that.
We're very detail oriented.
So I think that works when you're dealing with the demonic realm because they're illegal
lists and we want to get this all taken care of all at one time because the one thing you
want to do when you've walked through deliverance like this is really have those doors shut
so that when the enemy does try to come back, you know, every area has been hit upon and
you can just say, oh no, you have to go.
You are.
This is under the blood of Jesus Christ.
And it's a simple fix to that mindset because they know the tangible thing that happens
during deliverance.
When we pray for these things, it's got always shows up.
There is stuff that they would never have said insight and they know that I didn't know
it.
Um, that it had to be gotten inspired.
And that just speaks to them, it gives them something really to hold on to when we pray
and we call them out, we get down to the root, we call these things out, and those spirits
go and we, we command them to go to the dry and inhabited places.
Never to return.
Maybe you've said it already, but what's the one thing if you like or that you want people
to really take away from this?
We've covered a lot of ground and as it deals with, do you have any way of curses in the
Hispanic but.
Or do you want to summarize one or two things is you really want people to take away from
this?
No, I think that God's plan isn't complicated.
You know, and I think a lot of people look at their lives and they think, oh well it's
a big mess and it's all tangled up.
And who could ever sort through all of this.
But God's plans not complicated.
It's not long.
And he didn't make it hard.
He made a way for us.
It's easy through the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
And when you walk through deliverance, you can make more healthy moves and strides in
one month than you could in 20 years of trying to battle this alone and getting through by
yourself.
And then as God leads you, he'll perfect all things concerning you and make your crooked
places straight.
So it's like a course that does justin.
He's not going to overwhelm you, but he will smooth out that road ahead of you after you
make these first few steps, things just start to line up so you don't have to try to figure
it all out all at once.
But God is, he's, he's the deliverer.
He wants his children freer than they want to.
Probably be free.
And I've not seen him show up.
I mean, he's always shown up when you have a heart to be free,
man.
That's good.
That's good.
Well look, we've covered a lot, a lot of meat in this session.
I hope you got to be able to digest it all.
A lot of good information shared.
We hope you enjoyed the podcast.
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Um, we'd love to hear from you.
Have a question, please visit us on our website@andcounseling.com forward slash deliverance ministry.
F, m. that's where all the episodes are.
They're all there.
You can listen to them all.
They're all on itunes as well.
Those of you who are itunes fans, we hope that you will tune in there and find this.
Our station is deliverance ministry fm on itunes and we really value you know, it's
all about getting reviews, quite frankly, on itunes to increase your exposure.
So if you will go there to Itunes, find this deliverance ministry.
I'm dot F, m and leave a review for us on the ratings and review sections.
It's pretty easy to do to write us a nice review.
We should appreciate that.
If you will do that, we will send you a free gift.
We will send you a free downloadable copy of our deliverance ministry, plain and simple
manual.
It's an manual, gives an overview od deliverance, and our five step process will do that and
appreciation for you levy gets that review.
So pretty simple matter and there's explanations on our website, on our, on that page.
I gave deliverance ministry or and counseling.com, forward slash deliverance ministry FM.
There's a walks you through the process and how to leave that review.
We would very much appreciate if you would do that for us and anything else.
There's a form there that you can fill out.
Feedback, comments, certainly suggestions on topics.
We want to do, podcasts on what you are interested in.
This isn't about us just pulling topics, you know, out of our, out of our ears, really
out of the air.
We will.
He want you to to to really drive this thing and we want to be responsive, so here, let
us know and we'll certainly put those in, put those into the mix and we appreciate you
very much listening to these.
Please stay tuned for more podcasts that are, God bless you and have a great day.
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