LET'S HEAD TO THE MIC.
>> WE WILL HAVE A HARD COPY OF
THE POWERPOINT COME DETAILED
PRESS RELEASE THAT WILL CONTAIN
MORE INFORMATION THAT WE WILL GO
WITH YOU TODAY AND SEVERAL
ATTACHMENTS AS WELL.
WE WILL HAVE A DISK THAT WILL
CONTAIN ALL OF THE WRITTEN
MATERIALS AND ALL OF THE PHOTOS
WE ARE USING TODAY.
HOPEFULLY, THAT WILL BE ENOUGH
TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS
AND YOU CAN CONTACT ME IF YOU
HAVE QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE THE THREE
PEOPLE WHO WILL BE SPEAKING
TODAY.
THIS IS CAPTAIN RYAN GRANT,
SUPERVISOR IN THE DETECTIVE
UNIT.
THIS IS THICKLY SERGEANT MICHAEL
COULD CALL SKI, SUPERVISOR AT
THE NEW HAMPSHIRE COLD CASE
UNIT.
I AM A SENIOR ASSISTANT ATTORNEY
GENERAL TO THE NEW HAMPSHIRE
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE WHERE
I AM ASSIGNED AS THE HOMICIDE
CHIEF.
WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE IN ALL
MOST EVERY HOMICIDE CASE THAT WE
WORK ON, PROBABLY THE MOST
IMPORTANT STARTING POINT THAT WE
HAVE IS THE IDENTITY OF THE
VICTIM OR THE VICTIMS.
IT IS THAT INFORMATION THAT
USUALLY LEADS YOU TO THE KILLER.
IN THE CASE INVOLVING THE FOUR
MURDER VICTIMS IN ALLENSTOWN, WE
BELIEVE WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THEIR
KILLER.
AND NOW WE'RE HOPING THAT BY
RELEASING THAT INFORMATION AND
INFORMATION ABOUT THE KILLER,
THAT WILL HELP IDENTIFY THOSE
VICTIMS IN THE CASE AND OTHER
VICTIMS THAT WE BELIEVE THIS
KILLER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR.
IN 1985, AND ADULT FEMALE AND A
FEMALE CHILD WERE FOUND IN A
BARREL ON A PROPERTY IN
ALLENSTOWN, NEW HAMPSHIRE, NEXT
TO BEAR BROOK STATE PARK.
THOSE OF THE VICTIMS ON THE
LEFT.
THE ADULT FEMALE AND THE CHILD
WE REFER TO AS THE OLDEST CHILD.
IN 2000, SECOND BARREL WAS FOUND
ON THE SAME PROPERTY ABOUT 100
YARDS AWAY FROM THE FIRST ONE.
IN THAT BARREL WORK TO MORE
FEMALE VICTIMS.
WE REFER TO THEM AS THE MIDDLE
CHILD AND THE YOUNGEST CHILD.
AGAIN, WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE
TO IDENTIFY THESE FOUR VICTIMS,
BUT WE BELIEVE WE HAVE
IDENTIFIED THEIR KILLER.
WE ALSO BELIEVE THIS SAME MAN
THAT KILLED THESE FOUR PEOPLE IN
ALLENSTOWN LIKELY KILLED DENISE
BEAUDIN, WHO WENT MISSING IN
1981.
THIS IS DENISE BEAUDIN.
SHE WENT MISSING IN THE FALL OF
1981 FROM MANCHESTER NEW
HAMPSHIRE.
AT THE TIME SHE WENT MISSING,
SHE HAD A SIX-MONTH-OLD DAUGHTER
.
THAT DAUGHTER, WHO IS NOW KNOWN
AS LISA, IS ALIVE AND WELL AND
WE WILL TELL YOU MORE ABOUT HER
LATER IN THE PRESS BRIEFING.
WHEN DENISE AND LISA WENT
MISSING IN 1981, THEY WERE WITH
THIS MAN.
A MAN THAT WE HAVE COME TO KNOW
BY MANY DIFFERENT NAMES ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, HE WAS KNOWN
AS BOB EVANS.
BOB EVANS LEFT NEW HAMPSHIRE IN
1981 WITH DENISE BEAUDIN AND HER
INFANT DAUGHTER LISA.
DENISE WAS NEVER SEEN OR HEARD
FROM AGAIN.
HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT EVANS KEPT
THAT LITTLE GIRL WITH HIM FOR
SEVERAL YEARS.
AND AROUND THE TIME SHE WAS FIVE
OR SIX, HE GAVE HER AWAY TO SOME
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA.
SHE WAS EVENTUALLY ADOPTED.
AFTER EVANS GAVE AWAY LISA, HE
FLED THE AREA TO AVOID
APPREHENSION BY THE POLICE.
HE USED OTHER NAMES TO AVOID
APPREHENSION.
FOR ABOUT 12 YEARS, HE WENT
MISSING.
THEN AROUND 2002, HE MET A WOMAN
IN RICHMOND, CALIFORNIA.
HE MARRI HER IN AN UNOFFICIAL
BACKYARD CEREMONY AND ENDED UP
KILLING HER IN 2002.
AFTER SHE WAS MISSING FOR
SEVERAL MONTHS, THE POLICE
LOCATED HER PARTIALLY
DISMEMBERED BODY BURIED IN THE
BASEMENT OF A HOME WHERE EVANS
AND JUNE LIVE.
EVANS WAS EVENTUALLY CHARGED
WITH MURDER.
HE PLED GUILTY IN 2003 AND WAS
SENTENCED TO 15 TO LIFE IN
PRISON IN CALIFORNIA.
IN 2010, HE DIED IN PRISON OF
NATURAL CAUSES.
THIS MAN, BOB EVANS, IS NOT ONLY
CONNECTED TO DENISE BEAUDIN'S
DISAPPEARANCE AND THE CALIFORNIA
MURDER, HE IS ALSO CONNECTED TO
THE FOUR ALLENSTOWN MURDER
VICTIMS.
THROUGH DNA TESTING, WE HAVE
DETERMINED AT THIS MAN, THIS
KILLER BOB EVANS, IS THE FATHER
OF THE MIDDLE CHILD VICTIM IN
ALLENSTOWN.
THIS YOUNG GIRL.
HE IS NOT THE FATHER OR RELATED
TO THE OTHER VICTIMS, BUT HE IS
IN FACT THE FATHER OF THIS
MIDDLE CHILD VICTIM.
HE IS ALSO THE LAST PERSON WE
KNOW WHO WAS WITH DENISE BEAUDIN
AND LISA IN 1991 -- 1981 AND WE
KNOW HE IS THE MAN WHO MURDERED
HIS WIFE IN CALIFORNIA IN 2002.
BASED ON THOSE CONNECTIONS AND
THE ADDITIONAL WORK WE HAVE DONE
AND THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE
GATHERED, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT
BOB EVANS IS THE PERSON WHO
KILLED THE FOUR VICTIMS IN
ALLENSTOWN.
WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
MOTHER OF THAT MIDDLE CHILD AND
BELIEVE SHE MAY BE DEAD AS WELL.
AND WE BELIEVE HE KILLED DENISE
BEAUDIN SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NEW
HAMPSHIRE AND CALIFORNIA.
WE BELIEVE THAT BOB EVANS LIKELY
KILLED ALL OF THOSE PEOPLE AND
THAT HIS KILLING FINALLY CAME TO
AN END IN CALIFORNIA IN 2002
WITH HIS LAST VICTIM EUNSOON J
UN.
TO SUMMARIZE, BELIEVE WE HAVE
OUR KILLER.
NOW WE NEED TO TRY TO IDENTIFY
AND FIND ALL OF HIS VICTIMS.
THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
THAT IS WHAT WE'RE FOR TO
RELEASE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS
WE CAN ABOUT BOB EVANS, HIS
BACKGROUND AND HISTORY, AND THE
VICTIMS WE KNOW ABOUT.
THE HOPE IS, MAKING THOSE
CONNECTIONS WILL PROVIDE THE
INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT IS
NECESSARY FOR SOMEONE OR SOME
PEOPLE TO COME FORWARD AND HELP
US IDENTIFY THESE VICTIMS AND
PROVIDE CLOSURE FOR ALL OF THEM.
I'M GOING TO START GIVING YOU
MORE DETAILS NOW.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CAPTAIN RYAN
GRANT FROM THE MANCHESTER POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
RYAN WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH THE
DENISE BEAUDIN CASE AND SOME OF
THE CONNECTIONS AND INFORMATION
WE KNOW ABOUT BOB EVANS.
>> GOOD MORNING.
SOME OF WHAT I WILL GIVE YOU
WILL BE REPETITIVE OF WHAT
ATTORNEY STRAUSS JUST TOLD YOU
ABOUT.
WE WILL SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH
SOME PHOTOGRAPHS AND SOME
FURTHER INFORMATION.
SO WE KNOW THAT BOB EVANS
ARRIVED HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE
SOMETIME IN THE LATE 1970'S.
WE KNOW THAT HE LIVED AT 925
HAYWARD STREET IN MANCHESTER
UNTIL TH DISAPPEARANCE OF HEAT,
DENISE, AND APPROXIMATELY
SIX-MONTH-OLD BABY.
THEY DISAPPEARED IN NOVEMBER OR
EARLY DECEMBER OF 1981.
IT WAS A FEW DAYS FOLLOWING
THANKSGIVING WILL STOP AT THE
TIME, THERE WAS NO MISSING
REPORT FILED WITH AUTHORITIES,
SO THERE WAS NO SEARCH DONE OF
THE RESIDENCE AT THAT TIME.
WE DON'T KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT THE
CONDITION AFTER THEY LEFT,
WHETHER IT W A VOID OF
FURNITURE OR BELONGINGS, BUT WE
DO KNOW THE RESIDENTS WERE GONE
AND THAT INCLUDED BOB EVANS,
DENISE BEAUDIN, AND THE BABY.
I KNOW IT HAS BEEN COVERED IN
THE PRESS, 925 HAYWARD STREET,
THE BASEMENT OF THAT RESIDENCE,
HAS BEEN SEARCHED EXTENSIVELY BY
MANCHESTER PD DETECTIVES ALONG
WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE FBI
EVIDENCE RESPONSE TEAM.
THEY SPENT ABOUT THREE DAYS
THERE PROCESSING THE SCENE.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE -- EXCUSE
ME.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THIS WOULD
BE THE ENTRANCE TO 925 HAYWARD
STREET.
SO DURING -- SHORTLY AFTER THEY
WENT MISSING -- EXCUSE ME.
SO THIS IS SOME BACKGROUND
INFORMATION ABOUT DENISE
BEAUDIN.
AS I SAID, SHE DISAPPEARED WITH
HER CHILD AND BOB JUST AFTER
THANKSGIVING.
HERE'S SOME INFORMATION ABOUT
HER.
HER AGE, HER DESCRIPTION, AND
OBVIOUSLY, A PICTURE OF HER.
DURING THE TIME THAT MR. EVANS
HAD BEEN LIVING AT 925 HAYWARD
STREET, AN INTERESTI NOTE,
THERE WAS SOME CERTIFIED MAIL
SENT TO THAT RESIDENCE.
IT HAD BEEN SIGNED FOR BY
SOMEONE REPORTING TO BE
ELIZABETH EVANS.
WE DO NOT KNOW W ELIZABETH
EVANS WAS, WHETHER OR NOT SHE IN
FACT WAS A REAL PERSON OR THE
MAIL HAD BEEN SIGNED FOR BY
SOMEBODY ELSE.
ALSO, DURING A TIME IN THE
1980'S, BOB EVANS BEEN ARRESTED
THREE DIFFERENT TIMES BY LOCAL
AUTHORITIES.
HE WAS ARRESTED IN FEBRUARY,
JUNE OF 1980, AND HE GAVE HIS
SPOUSE'S NAME AS BEING
ELIZABETH, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE
IN THIS SLIDE.
WHEN HE WAS ARRESTED IN OCTOBER
1980, HE DID NOT LIST A SPOUSE
AT ALL.
WHETHER THAT IS SIMPLY HE JUST
DID NOT GIVE AN ANSWER OR IF
THERE SOMETHING MORE TO THAT.
BUT WE DO NOT KNOW WHO ELIZABETH
EVANS IS OR WAS AT THAT TIME.
THESE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS FROM
THAT TIME FRAME.
EXCUSE ME.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT IS A
PICTURE OF DENISE BEAUDIN AND
THIS IS BOB EVANS.
THIS WAS TAKEN DURING THE SUMMER
OF 1981.
IT APPEARS THAT DENISE IS
PREGNANT, PRESUMABLY -- WELL,
NOT PRESUMABLY, WITH HER
DAUGHTER DAWN.
THESE PHOTOGRAPHS WERE TAKEN ON
LITA AVE IN MANCHESTER.
SO AS WE CONNECT THE NEW
HAMPSHIRE CASE OUT TO CALIFORNIA
, WE SORT OF LOST A BIT OF TIME
WITH MR. EVANS BETWEEN 1981 AND
1984.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE OF HIS
WHEREABOUTS.
WE DO KNOW IN 1984, 19 85, HE IS
HIRED AS AN ELECTRICIAN UNDER
THE NAME OF CURTIS KIMBALL.
THAT IS IN LOS ALAMITOS,
CALIFORNIA.
1985, THE PERSON NOW GOING UNDER
CURTIS KIMBALL WHO WE NOW KNOW
IS BOB EVANS, WAS ARRESTED FOR
DWI, ENDANGERING A CHILD, AND
HIT AND RUN A PROPERTY.
INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS FROM THE
INCIDENT INDICATE HE WAS UNDER
THE INFLUENCE AND WAS INVOLVED
IN A CAR CRASH WITH LISA OR THE
YOUNG CHILD WE KNOW TO BE DAWN
BEAUDIN, IN THE VEHICLE WITH
HIM.
SO BETWEEN JANUARY AND JULY OF
1986, MR. EVANS IS LIVING AND
WORKING AT A PLACE BY THE NAME
OF HOLIDAY HOST RV PARK IN
SCOTTS VALLEY UNDER THE NAME OF
GORDON CURTIS JENSEN.
DURING THAT TIMEFRAME, HE HAD
THIS YOUNG CHILD WITH HIM.
HE REFERRED TO HER AS LISA.
WE NOW KNOW, AS I HAVE SAID,
LISA WAS IN FACT DAWN BEAUDIN,
DENISE BEAUDIN'S DAUGHTER.
AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME AT THIS
RV PARK, MR. EVANS ABANDONS LISA
AND LEAVES HER WITH A FAMILY
THAT HAD ALSO BEEN STAYING AT
THIS TRANSIENT RV PARK.
THIS FAMILY KEEPS HER FOR A
SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THEN
NOTIFIES AUTHORITIES WHERE SHE
IS EVENTUALLY PLACED INTO FOSTER
CARE AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, SHE
WAS ADOPTED.
SHORTLY THEREAFTER IN AUGUST
1986, MR. EVANS WAS INVESTIGATED
BY THE SANTA CRUZ IN SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY FOR DESERTION
OF THE CHILD, THAT CHILD BEING
LISA, FOR HAVING LEFT HER WITH
PEOPLE AT THIS RV PARK.
BY THE TIME THE CASE WAS
INVESTIGATED AND THEY HAVE PUT
TOGETHER WHAT WAS GOING ON, MR.
EVANS, OR CURTIS JENSEN, OR ONE
OF THE OTHER ALIASES -- WE WILL
REFER TO HIM AS MR. EVANS -- HAD
FLED THE AREA.
SO AS PART OF THE ABANDONED
CHILD INVESTIGATIO, SAN
BERNARDINO COUNTY SHERIFF'S
OFFICE CONFIRMED THROUGH LATENT
FINGERPRINTS THAT GORDON JENSEN,
THE MAN THAT HAD ABANDONED LISA
OR DAWN BEAUDIN, WAS THE SAME
PERSON WHO HAVE BEEN ARRESTED
FOR DUI, ENDANGERING A CHILD, IN
1985 IN CYPRESS, CALIFORNIA.
AT THAT POINT, HE HAD IDENTIFIED
HIMSELF, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE
SLIDE, AS CURTIS KIMBALL.
IN OCTOBER 1986, THREE ARREST
WARRANTS WERE ISSUED IN THE NAME
OF GORDON CURTIS JENSEN, WHO HAD
ALSO BEEN KNOWN AT THIS POINT --
WE'RE UP TO THREE NAMES NOW.
SUBSEQUENT TO THIS, KIND OF LOST
TRACK OF MR. EVANS FOR ABOUT TWO
YEARS.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY INVESTIGATIVE
INFORMATION OF HIS WHEREABOUTS,
BUT THE NEXT TIME HE TURNS UP IS
IN SAN LUIS OBISPO, CALIFORNIA.
HE IS NOW USING THE NAME JERRY
MOCKER MEN.
HE IS ARRESTED FOR DRIVING A
STOLEN MOTOR VEHICLE.
THE PICTURE YOU SEE HERE IS FROM
A NEWS ACCOUNT OF THAT INCIDENT
AT THAT TIME.
YOU CAN SEE THE APPEARANCE IS
SIMILAR TO SOME PICTURES, BUT
ALSO YOU WILL SEE SOME PICTURES
SUBSEQUENT TO THIS WHERE HE HAD
A REAL LONG, SHAGGY BEARD.
IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS ATYPICAL
FOR HIM AT THE TIME FRAME.
I GUESS IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE
THAT VEHICLE, AS I SAID WE HAD
LOST TRACK OF HIM FOR A WHILE.
THE NEXT TIME HE POPS UP, HE IS
DRIVING A VEHICLE THAT HAD BEEN
STOLEN FROM IDAHO.
WE KNOW IT SOME POINT HE HAD
BEEN SPENDING TIME IN IDAHO.
WE DO NOT KNOW HOW LONG HE WAS
THERE, BUT WE DO KNOW HE WAS
THERE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
SO MARCH OF 1989, JUST A FEW
MONTH AFTER HE OF BEEN ARRESTED
WHILE DRIVING THE STOLEN
VEHICL, WHILE STILL
INCARCERATED, THE FINGERPRINT
EVIDENCE BEGINS TO COME TO
FRUITION.
NOW THEY REALIZE THAT GERRY
MOCKERMAN IS ACTUALLY WANTED FOR
SOME WARRANTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT
OUT BY SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA,
AND THEY REALIZE THAT GORDON
CURTIS JENSEN AND GERRY
MOCKERMAN ARE ONE AND THE SAME
PERSON.
WITH THAT INFORMATION, HE WAS
SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN
PRISON.
IN OCTOBER 1990, EVANS WAS
PAROLED AFTER SERVING ABOUT 18
MONTHS OF A THREE YEAR SENTENCE.
HE ABSCONDED THE NEXT DAY.
HE TOOK OFF.
HE WAS NOT SEEN FOR A PERIOD OF
TIME.
THE FOLLOWING MONTH, AS IT SAYS
HERE, THE PAROLE BOARD WAS
ISSUED FOR CURTISMAYO KIMBALL.
THIS IS WHERE WE REALLY HAVE A
BIG BLOCK OF TIME WHERE WE DO
NOT KNOW WHERE MR. EVANS WENT.
WE LOSE TRACK OF HIM FOR ABOUT
12 YEARS.
HE IS A FUGITIVE AND WE DON'T
HAVE A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT
WHERE HE WAS DURING THAT
TIMEFRAME.
SO MR. EVANS NEXT POPS UP ABOUT
2001 AND TURNS UP IN RICHMOND,
CALIFORNIA, UNDER THE NAME
LAWRENCE WILLIAM VANNER.
WE KNOW SOME INFORMATION.
HE HAD ARRIVED THERE, HAD BEEN
HANGING OUT IN SOME LOCAL
NEIGHBORHOODS.
HE WAS ALWAYS A HANDYMAN,
ELECTRICIAN.
HE PICKED UP SOME ODD JOBS.
EVENTUALLY, GOT A JOB WHERE HE
WAS ABLE TO NEGOTIATE FOR A ROOM
AND DO SOME ODD JOBS FOR PEOPLE
IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND
CUSTOMERS OF LOCAL BUSINESSES.
THIS IS WHERE HE -- HOW HE MET
EUSOON JUN.
HE HAD DONE SOME ROOFING WORK
FOR HER OUT IN THE RICHMOND
AREA.
IN AUGUST 2001, HE MARRIES HER
IN A BACKYARD WEDDING.
WE KNOW THAT NO MARRIAGE
OFFICIAL -- OFFICIAL MARRIAGE
PAPERWORK WAS FILED WITH THE
COUNTY OR LOCAL OFFICIALS.
BUT FROM OTHER INVESTIGATIVE
WORK, WE KNOW THAT THEY HAD THE
BACKYARD WEDDING.
IN SEPTEMBER 2002, THE CONTRA
COSTA COUNTY SHERIFF'S
DEPARTMENT CALIFORNIA BEGAN AN
INVESTIGATION INTO A MISSING
PERSON FOR EUNSOON JUN.
THIS WAS ABOUT A YEAR AFTER THEY
HAD BECOME MARRIED.
JUST A SHORT TIME LATER, THEY
FIND, AS ATTORNEY SHELDON TOLD
YOU EARLIER, THEY FIND MISS JUN
HAD BEEN MURDERED, DISMEMBERED,
AND BURIED IN THE BASEMENT OF
HER RESIDENCE.
IT WAS DETERMINED THAT HER
MANNER OF DEATH WAS HOMICIDE.
IN NOVEMBER 2002, MR. EVANS WAS
ARRESTED FOR THE MURDER OF MS.
JUN AND SENTENCED TO 15 YEARS TO
LIFE PRISON TERM.
AS THE ATTORNEY TOLD YOU, HE
DIED WHILE INCARCERATED ON THE
CYMER 28, 2010 -- DECEMBER 20 8,
2010.
SO AS THE STORY CONTINUES AND
THE GOAL BECOMES TO FIND OUT WHO
THIS CHILD LISA, OR NOW WE KNOW
DAWN BEAUDIN, DNA TEST --
TESTING DETERMINES THAT BOB
EVANS, AND LISA, THE LITTLE GIRL
HE HAD ABANDON EARLIER, WAS
NOT HIS BIOLOGICAL DAUGHTER.
HE SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY
SHERIFF'S OFFICE BEGINS AN
INVESTIGATION TO TRY TO
DETERMINE WHO THIS YOUNG GIRL
GOING BY THE NAME OF LISA JENSEN
IS.
IN 2014, THEY ENLISTED THE HELP
OF THE DNA ADOPTION
.COM.
TRYING TO IDENTIFY ANY LINKS OF
RELATIVES TO LISA.
IN 2016, A FIRST COUSIN OF LISA
WAS IDENTIFIED, WHICH LED TO
PROVING THAT LISA WAS IN FACT
DON BOWDEN, DENISE BEAUDIN'S
DAUGHTER.
--DAWN BEAUDIN, DENISE BEAUDIN'S
DAUGHTER.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER NOW TO
MIKE.
MANCHESTER STATE POLICE.
>> BRIEFLY BEFORE MIKE SPEAKS,
THEY MENTION THE SEARCH ON
HAYWARD STREET.
WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT
DENISE WAS NOT FOUND THERE.
NO HUMAN REMAINS WERE FOUND
THERE.
THE FBI AND MANCHESTER PD DID AN
EXTENSIVE SEARCH.
THE FIRST ONE THAT HAS BEEN DONE
THERE.
NO SIGNS OF HUMAN REMAINS.
THERE WERE SIGNS THE BASEMENT
FLOOR, WHICH IS DIRT, HAD BEEN
DISTURBED.
THERE WILL BE SOME TESTING DONE
ON MATERIALS FOUND THERE, BUT
THERE WERE NO HUMAN REMAINS
FOUND.
NO SIGNS OF DENISE WERE FOUND IN
THE HOME.
NOW WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE
SERGEANT.
MIKE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THE
CONNECTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO THE
ALLENSTOWN CASE AND LISA AS
WELL.
>> THANK YOU, JEFF.
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
CAN TURNING OFF CAPTAIN GRANT'S
LAST SLIDE AND THE NEW
INFORMATION
A SAN BERNARDINO
COUNTY, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
REACHED OUT SIMULTANEOUSLY TO
BOTH THE NEW HAMPSHIRE STATE
POLICE AND THE MANCHESTER POLICE
DEPARTME.
THE PURPOSE IN DOI SO, THEY
JUST DISCOVERED THE MANCHESTER
POLICE DEPARTMENT LIKELY NOW HAD
AN HISTORIC UNREPORTED MISSING
PERSONS CASE THAT HAD NOT BEEN
KNOWN ABOUT FOR DECADES, AND
ALSO THAT THIS SUBJECT, BOB
EVANS, WHO WAS NOW TIED TO A
CALIFORNIA HOMICIDE, WAS AN
INTEREST -- WAS POSSIBLE
CONNECTION ODDLY TO MANCHESTER,
BUT ALLENSTOWN IN THE
UNIDENTIFIED HOMICIDE VICTIMS.
IN THE FALL 2016, NEW HAMPSHIRE
POLICE AND MANCHESTER POLICE
DEPARTMENT WORK WORKING TOGETHER
WITH A NUMBER OF AGENCIES TO
BEGIN RESEARCHING THE SUBJECT
LOT EVANS AND THE POTENTIAL
LINKS BETWEEN ALL OF THESE
CASES.
IN OCTOBER 2016, AMONGST
NUMEROUS INVESTIGATIVE AND
RESEARCH FOLLOWE TASKS THAT
WERE UNDERTAKEN IN THOSE
EFFORTS, WE LEARNED THROUGH DNA
WORK DONE THAT BOB EVANS IS IN
FACT THE FATHER OF THE MIDDLE
ALLENSTOWN CHILD, ONE OF THE
YOUNGER CHILDREN WHO WAS FOUND
IN THE BARREL IN 2000.
RECAPPING A LITTLE BIT ON THE
ALLENSTOWN VICTIMS AND THE
PARTICULARS, THE ADULT FEMALE
AND THE OLDEST CHILD WERE FOUND
IN 1985 IN THE FIRST BARREL.
THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN HUNTING ON
A PROPERTY WHO FOUND HIS
REMAINS.
IT WAS 15 YEARS LATER IN 2000
THAT A TROOPER WENT BACK OUT AND
FOUND THE SECOND BARREL
CONTAINING THE TWO YOUNGER
VICTIMS.
ALL FOUR VICTIMS WOULD APPEAR
CAUCASIAN.
THESE ARE THE MOST RECENT IMAGES
.
THESE WERE DONE IN 2015.
THE ADULT FEMALE IS ESTIMATED TO
BE 23 TO 33 YEARS OLD.
WE THINK MID-20'S IS MOST LIKELY
IN TERMS OF HER AGE.
BROWN HAIR.
THE OLDEST CHILD HAS A RANGE OF
FIVE TO 11.
WE THINK THE ACTUAL AGE IS
CLOSER TO THE HIGHER AND, CLOSER
TO 11.
THAT IS THE CASE WITH THE OTHER
TWO CHILDREN AS WELL.
WE HAVE GIVEN AN AGE RANGE, BUT
WE THINK IT IS ON THE HIGHER
END.
THE OLDEST ALL HAVE BLONDE HAIR
AND APPEARS TEARS.
THE MIDDLE CHILD, TWO YEARS TO
FOUR YEARS OLD WITH BROWN HAIR
AND A NOTICEABLE OVERBITE.
THE YOUNGEST CHILD, AGE ONE TO
THREE, OR TOWARDS BEHIND HER AND
ON THE AGE RANGE, BROWN OR
BLONDE HAIR WITH A NOTICEABLE
GAP IN HER FRONT TEETH.
I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO
RECOGNIZE THAT THIS CASE
HISTORICALLY AND CERTAINLY
PRESENTLY WITH THE RECENT
DEVELOPMENTS, HAS BEEN A RESULT
OF A LOT OF COOPERATIVE WORK
AMONGST AND AGENCIES.
OUR NEW HAMPSHIRE LAW
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES HERE, BUT
BEYOND THAT, TREMENDOUS SUPPORT
FROM THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF
INVESTIGATION, NATIONAL CENTER
FOR MISSING AND EXPLOITED
CHILDREN, FROM THE NATIONAL
MISSING AND UNIDENTIFIED PERSONS
SYSTEM, AND ALSO MORE RECENTLY,
OUR CALIFORNIA COUNTERPARTS IN
SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY AND
COSTER, COUNTY -- COAST TO
CONJURE COUNTY.
KINSHIP, THIS INFORMATION WAS
RELEASED IN THE LAST PRESS
CONFERENCE IN 2015.
THE ADULT FEMALE IN ALLENSTOWN,
THE OLDEST CHILD, AND THE
YOUNGEST CHILD, BASED ON THE DNA
TESTING DONE, ARE ALL MATERNALLY
RELATED.
THE MIDDLE CHILD, THE CHILD WE
NOW KNOW HIS FATHER TO BUY BOB
EVANS, HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMEWHAT
OF AN OUTLIER AND NOT RELATED TO
THE OTHER THREE.
AS YOU MAY RECALL IN THE 2015
PRESS CONFERENCE, THERE WAS ALSO
SOME TESTING DONE REGARDING
ISOTOPES IN AN ATTEMPT TO GAUGE
WHERE THESE VICTIMS MAY HAVE
BEEN IN THE TIME IMMEDIATELY
PRECEDING THEIR DEATH AND IN THE
TIME LEADING UP TO IT.
ESSENTIALLY, WHAT THAT TESTING
SHOWED WAS THAT THE 3 -- THE
THREE MATERNALLY RELATED HAD
LIKELY SPENT THEIR ENTIRE
LIFETIME TOGETHER AND WERE
LIKELY FROM THE NORTHEAST
REGION.
THE MIDDLE CHILD WAS SOMEWHAT
DIFFERENT.
I WILL GET TO THAT IN THE NEXT
SLIDE.
RESULTS FROM THE ISOTOPES
INDICATE THESE THREE FEMALES
HERE GREW UP IN THE SAME AREA.
THESE ARE THE ISOTOPE MAPS FROM
2015.
AGAIN, SHOWING THAT DIFFERENCE.
PRINCIPALLY, IT WAS WHILE WE
BELIEVE ALL OF THE VICTIMS WERE
IN THE SAME AREA TOGETHER IN THE
TIME IMMEDIATELY PRECEDING THEIR
DEATH, TERMS OF THE TIME PRIOR
TO THAT, IT SEEMED THE MIDDLE
CHILD, THE ONE FATHERED B BOB
EVANS, WAS PERHAPS FURTHER
INLAND AND NORTH THAN THE OTHER
THREE.
OBVIOUSLY, THE SIGNIFICANT
DEVELOPMENT HERE -- AGAIN, THANK
YOU TO THE TESTING PROVIDED --
THAT BOB EVANS IS THE FATHER OF
THE MIDDLE CHILD.
HE IS NOT THE FATHER OF THE
OTHER TWO CHILDREN.
DUE TO THE DEGRADATION OF THE
SAMPLE OF THE ADULT FEMALE, NO
COMPLETE COMPARISON HAS BEEN
MADE BETWEEN THE ADULT FEMALE
AND BOB EVANS
BASED ON THE OTHER
CIRCUMSTANCES, WE DON'T EXPECT
THERE IS ANY RELATIONSHIP THERE.
SO CONNECTING TH ALL TO WHAT
THIS MEANS FOR THE ALLENSTOWN
HOMICIDE CASE AND THE OTHER
MATTERS THAT WE HAVE CONNECTED
TO BOB EVANS AND SOME MORE
LINKS, IS IN THE LATE 1970'S --
THAT IS THE BEST APPROXIMATION
WE CAN PUT ON IT -- TO ABOUT
1981, BOB EVANS WAS HERE IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE.
LIVING AT 925 HAYWARD STREET.
AT THAT SAME TIME, UP UNTIL
ABOUT 1980, HE WAS WORKING AT
THE ONE THAT MILL AND MANCHESTER
AS A MECHANIC IN HER HEAD IN
ELECTRICIAN.
THE MILL WAS UNDERGOING THE
PROCESS OF BEING SHOT DOWN --
SHUT DOWN AND BOB EVANS WAS
SUPERVISING THE ELECTRICAL WORK
RELATED TO THAT.
IN THE CAPACITY OF THAT
EMPLOYMENT, MR. EVANS WORKED
DIRECTLY UNDER THE GENTLEMAN WHO
OWNS THE ALLENSTOWN PROPERTY
WHERE THESE VICTIMS WERE FOUND
AND STILL OWNS IT.
FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS
PRESENTATION, WE HAVE KEPT HIS
NAME OUT OF IT TO RESPECT HIS
PRIVACY, BUT HE WAS BO EVANS'S
SUPERVISOR AT THE MILL.
BEYOND THAT CONNECTION, WE HAVE
CONFIRMED EVANS WAS HIRED BY
THAT INDIVIDUAL TO PERFORM SOME
ELECTRICAL AND REFRIGERATION
WORK AT THE SMALL CAP STORE
OPERATED ON THE ALLENSTOWN
ROBBERY IN THE EARLY 1980 --
PROPERTY IN THE EARLY 1980'S.
THE PROVIDES A DIRECT LINK A BOB
EVANS. ONLY ONE OF THE VICTIMS
VIA DNA, BUT THE SCENE ITSELF IN
ALLENSTOWN.
IN TERMS OF SIMILARITIES IN THE
CRIMES, THE ALLENSTOWN ADULT IN
THE OLDEST CHILD, THE TWO
VICTIMS FOUND IN 1985, WERE
PACKAGED IN VARIOUS MATERIAL,
MOST NOTABLY GARBAGE BAGS, AND
ELECTRICAL WIRE WAS USED AS THE
BINDING TO ESSENTIALLY HOLD
THOSE PACKAGES TOGETHER.
THE SIGNIFICANCE IS, GIVEN EVANS
TRADE AS AN ELECTRICIAN, THAT IS
A SMALL LINK AND SOMEWHAT IRONIC
TWIST.
THE CABLE USED ON THE ALLENSTOWN
VICTIM WAS MADE BY THE CARROLL
CABLE COMEDY, WHICH HAPPENS TO
BE THE MANCHESTER-BASED COMPANY
WHERE DENISE BEAUDIN WORKED FOR
A TIME.
THAT IS A VERY COMMON CABLE SO I
DON'T KNOW THAT SHOULD BE READ
INTO TOO MUCH, BUT IT WAS IN
FACT CAROL CABLE USED ON THESE
VICTIMS IN ALLENSTOWN.
ALL OF THE VICTIMS IN ALLENSTOWN
AND EUNSOON JUN, HIS VICTIM IN
2002 IN RICHMOND, CALIFORNIA,
THE CAUSE OF DEATH FOR ALL FIVE
OF THE VICTIMS IS BLUNT FORCE
TRAUMA.
REGARDING THE ALLENSTOWN ADULT,
THE ALLENSTOWN CHILD, AND
EUNSOON JUN, THEY ALSO STATE
EMBARRASSED DEGREES OF
DISMEMBERMENT BEFORE BEING
DEPOSITED.
AS PRESLEY STATED, EUNSOON JUN
WAS BURIED IN THE BASEMENT --
PREVIOUSLY STATED, EUNSOON JUN
WAS BURIED IN THE BASEMENT OF
THE HOME THEY SHARED IN KITTY
LITTER.
WE HAVE CONFIRMED DURING THE
TIME EVANS WAS WORKING AT ONE
BACK, NOT ONLY DID HE HAVE
ACCESS AND CONNECTION TO THE
ALLENSTOWN PROPERTY, BUT IT WAS
KNOWN THAT MATERIAL FROM THE
MILL WAS DUMPED ON THE PROPERTY.
REGARDING THE BARRELS THEMSELVES
OF THE VICTIMS WERE FOUND AND,
ALL WE CAN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY
THE TWO BARRELS ARE DIRECTLY
LINKED TO WOMBECK, WE THINK IT
IS LIKELY.
WE KNOW BARRELS WERE BROUGHT TO
THE PROPERTY AND WE THINK IT IS
LIKELY THE SOURCE OF THESE
BARRELS AND WHERE THEY CAME
FROM.
SO RECAPPING GENERALLY COME THE
THINGS THAT ARE KNOWN ABOUT THE
SUBJECT BOB EVANS.
WE HAVE AG RANGE, A DATA BIRTH
RANGE, 1936-1952.
THAT IS BASED ON NUMEROUS DATES
OF BIRTH HE HAS GIVEN OVER THE
YEARS HE WAS ALIVE IN THE
VARIOUS PLACES HE WAS.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE DAYS OF
BIRTH.
THEY STOP THE HUP OR TO BE IN
2010 WHEN HE -- BASED ON THE AGE
BELIEVED TO BE IN 2010 WHEN HE
DIED.
HE DIED IN PRISON IN SUSANVILLE,
CALIFORNIA, 2010.
WE KNOW HE CHANGED NAMES OF
THREE GOALIE.
FRANKLY, WE DO NOT KNOW THE TRUE
IDENTITY OF THE SUBJECT RIGHT
NOW.
HE HAD FIVE MAIN ALIASES.
THE ONLY NAME WE KNOW THAT HE
USED HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE IS
THE ROBERT EVANS NAME.
AS YOU HEARD, HE ALSO USED
CURTIS CABLE, GERRY MOCKERMAN,
PORTIS COULD AND JENSEN, AND
LAWRENCE WILLIAM VANNER.
LAWRENCE VANNER WAS IN AND HE
WAS USING UPON THE INVESTIGATION
INTO THE DEATH OF EUNSOON JUN.
HIS OCCUPATION WAS NOT TREASON
AND MECHANIC.
WE DO NOT KNOW HE WAS FORMALLY
EMPLOYED THERE, BETWEEN OUR GET
INFORMATION HE DID SOME PROJECTS
WORKING AT THE MANCHESTER V.A.
HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
WE SUSPECT HE MAY HAVE BEEN IN
THE MILITARY.
WE HAVE MULTIPLE RESEARCH
EFFORTS UNDERWAY ATTEMPTING TO
CONFIRM THAT.
IT IS DIFFICULT SINCE WE DO NOT
KNOW HIS TRUE IDENTITY.
OUR FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
PARTNERS ARE HELPING WITH THAT.
THINGS WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE
WHO KNEW HIM SUGGEST PERHAPS HE
HAD A MILITARY BACKGROUND.
WITH IN THAT, IT IS SUSPECTED IS
A NAVY BACKGROUND.
SOME OF THE ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE,
WE BELIEVE HE WAS A HEAVY
DRINKER FOR THE DURATION OF HIS
WHOLE LIFE.
HE WAS THOROUGHLY TRANSIENT.
I WOULD SAY 925 HAYWARD STREET
IS THE ONLY ESTABLISHED DWELLING
HE ASKED FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.
IN CALIFORNIA WHEN WE CAN
ACCOUNT FOR HIM, HE WAS VERY
TRANSIENT.
HE ULTIMATELY IN 2002,
SURROUNDING THE MURDER OF
EUNSOON JUN, HE HAD MOVED IN
WITH HER AT HER RESIDENCE.
IN TERMS OF CONFIRMED LOCATIONS
WHERE THE SUBJECT BOB EVANS HAS
BEEN, IT IS ESSENTIALLY THREE
STATES CONFIRMED.
WE HAVE RUN THROUGH MOST OF THE
PARTICULARS, BUT I WILL RECAP
THEM.
THE EARLIEST WE CAN ACCOUNT FOR
HIM IS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
IT IS LATE 1970'S, 1977, 1978 IS
A ROUGH TIME WE'RE LOOKING AT
BUT IT COULD BE SOONER.
UNTIL 1981 WHEN HE LEAVES WITH
DENISE BEAUDIN.
HE IS UNACCOUNTED FOR IN THE
MID-1980'S IN CALIFORNIA
SURROUNDING THE ABANDONMENT OF
LISA -- HE IS ACCOUNTED FOR IN
THE 1980'S IN CALIFORNIA'S
RUNNING THE ABANDONMENT OF LISA.
THE STOLEN VEHICLE OUT OF IDAHO,
WE ESTIMATE THAT TO BE SOMEWHERE
BETWEEN 1986 AND 1988.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN IDAHO WHO
KNEW HIM, WHO ACTUALLY OWNED THE
VEHICLE HE TOOK.
WE ARE NOT POSITIVE WHAT NAME HE
WAS USING AT THE TIME HE WAS IN
IDAHO, BUT WE'RE CONFIDENT HE
WAS THERE.
HE IS ARRESTED IN SAN LUIS
OBISPO, CALIFORNIA, WITH ESTHER
LINDSAY AGO FROM IDAHO, IN 1988.
-- WITH THE STOLEN VEHICLE FROM
IDAHO IN 1988.
WE BELIEVE HE WAS IN THE
RICHMOND AREA AND REALLY
SURROUNDING 2002.
AS CAPTAIN GRANT SAID, THERE IS
A LARGE CHUNK OF TIME WHERE HE
WAS A PAROLED FUGITIVE.
THESE ARE THE CONFIRMED CITIES.
THESE ARE THE UNCONFIRMED
LOCATIONS WHERE WE BELIEVE THE
SUBJECT MAY HAVE BEEN.
I STRESS MANY OF THE STATES AND
MUCH OF THIS INFORMATION IS FROM
DOCUMENTATION FROM THE SUBJECT
BOB EVANS HIMSELF.
AS SUCH, SOME HAS PROVEN TO BE
FALSE IN SOME WHICH WE SUSPECT
IS FALSE.
IN AN EFFORT TO BE
ALL-INCLUSIVE, WE HAVE INCLUDED
ANY OF THE STATES WE HAVE A LINK
TO.
BUT I STRESS THESE ARE NOT
CONFIRMED.
MANY ARE PLACES HE SAID HE
WORKED.
HE LIED.
SOME ARE PLACES SPECIFICALLY IN
WYOMING IN THE MIDWEST WHERE HE
SAID HE WAS FROM IN THE EARLY
PART OF HIS LIFE.
THEN HE MAKES SOME REFERENCES TO
CANADA AS WELL AS THE SOUTHERN
STATES.
OF ALL OF THESE, I THINK TEXAS
IS OF MOST INTEREST TO US.
AS IT STANDS, WE HAVE NOTHING
COMPLETELY CONFIRMED.
I WILL TURN IT BACK OVER TO
JEFF.
>> SO TO SUMMARIZE, BASED ON THE
INFORMATION WE HAVE ABOUT BOB
EVANS, HIS CONNECTIONS TO NEW
HAMPSHIRE, HIS SPECIFIC
CONNECTIONS TO THE PROPERTY, THE
DNA THAT LINKS THEM TO THAT
VICTIM, HIS LINKAGE TO DENISE
BEAUDIN DISAPPEARANCE, AND HIS
CONVICTION AS A MURDERER AND
CALIFORNIA, WE ARE CONFIDENT HIS
THE PERSON WHO KILLED THOSE FOUR
PEOPLE IN ALLENSTOWN.
WE CERTAINLY HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT
THE MOTHER OF THAT MIDDLE CHILD
FROM ALLENSTOWN. HER WHEREABOUTS
AND WHETHER SHE IS ALIVE.
WE BELIEVE HE ALSO KILLED DENISE
BEAUDIN.
AS FAR AS FUTURE STEPS WE ARE
TAKING, HONESTLY, ONE OF THE
MOST IMPORTANT IS RELEASING THIS
INFORMATION IN THE HOPES THAT
PEOPLE COME FORWARD.
I CAN SAY AFTER THE RELEASE ON
DECEMBER 28, A COUPLE OF PEOPLE
DID COME FORWARD WITH ADDITIONAL
INFORMATION AND PROVIDED AS
THOSE PICTURES FROM 1981 THAT WE
HAVE OF BOB AND DENISE AT A
PARTY AROUND DECEMBER 1981.
WE ARE HOPING THAT HAPPENS IN
THE FUTURE AS WELL.
OTHER FUTURE STEPS, WE'RE USING
OUR FRIENDS IN THE DNA WORLD TO
TRY TO IDENTIFY THE FOUR VICTIMS
IN ALLENSTOWN, DO SOMETHING
SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH
LISA, AND TO SEE IF WE CAN TRACK
THEIR RELATIVES AS WELL.
WE PLAN TO GO BACK OUT TO THE
ALLENSTOWN PROPERTY AND DO MORE
SEARCHING IN THE SPRING,
IDENTIFY AREAS WE MAY ACTUALLY
DO SOME SEARCHING UNDERGROUND TO
SEE IF ANYTHING IS BURIED OUT
THERE GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT
BO EVANS AND WHAT HE DID WITH
THE VICTIM AND CALIFORNIA.
THIS I THE CONTACT INFORMATION
WE'RE ASKING YOU TO SHARE WITH
THE PUBLIC.
IF ANYONE HAS INFORMATION ABOUT
THIS PERSON WE KNOW AS BOB EVANS
TO CONTACT US.
AS CAPTAIN GRANT TOLD YOU IN A
SURGEON TOLD YOU, HE USED A LOT
OF DIFFERENT NAMES.
-- SERGEANT TALL YOU, USE A LOT
OF DIFFERENT NAMES.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY HOW OLD HE
IS.
HE HAS A LOT OF HISTORY BEFORE
THEN.
AS THE SERGEANT TOLD YOU, THERE
IS A 12 YEAR GAP IN CALIFORNIA
WILL STOP GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW
ABOUT HIM, WE HAVE CONCERNS
ABOUT HIS ACTIVITIES IN
CALIFORNIA FOR THOSE FOUR YEARS.
-- FOR THOSE YEARS.
THIS IS THE CONTACT INFORMATION
FO BOB EVANS, DENISE BEAUDIN,
OR THE VICTIMS AND ALLENSTOWN.
OUR HOPE IS THAT BY RELEASING
THE INFORMATION TODAY TO YOU AND
THE PUBLIC, THAT SOMEONE WILL
COME FORWARD AND ALLOW US TO
IDENTIFY THESE FOUR VICTIMS AND
LOCATE THE MIDDLE CHILD'S
MOTHER.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT WILL HOPE
FOR AN SOMETHING THAT DENISE'S
DAUGHTER LISA HOPES FOR AS WELL.
SHE IS A VICTIM IN THIS CASE.
SHE HAS GONE ON TO HAVE A GOOD
LIFE.
SHE IS GRATEFUL FOR EVERY THING
THAT HAS BEEN DONE ON HER BEHALF
.
SHE SENT US A MESSAGE AND ASKED
US TO READ IT TO YOU TODAY.
I WILL DO THAT NOW.
"I'M SO GRATEFUL TO BE REUNITED
WITH MY GRANDFATHER AND COUSINS
AFTER ALL OF THESE YEARS.
I WANT TO SEND OUT A HEARTFELT
THANK YOU TO ALL OF THE
ORGANIZATIONS AND TIRELESS
INDIVIDUALS WHO MADE THIS
POSSIBLE.
AS A VICTIM IN THIS INCREDULOUS
STORY, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE
MEDIA RESPECTS MY PRIVACY.
CURRENTLY, I HAVE THREE
BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN AND A LOVING
HUSBAND AND WOULD LIKE ARE
PRESENTLY HAPPY AND SECURE LIFE
TO REMAIN INTACT AND PROTECTED
THROUGH THE RELEASE OF THIS
STORY.
PLEASE TURN YOUR FOCUS FOR THE
UNIDENTIFIED VICTIMS AND OTHER
POTENTIALLY UNKNOWN VICTIMS IN
THIS CASE.
HOPEFULLY, THEIR FAMILIES WILL
ALSO BE OFFERED SOME CLOSURE AS
THIS INVESTIGATION CONTINUES.
THANK YOU, LISA."
WE OBVIOUSLY ECHO HER HOPES AND
WISHES AS WELL.
THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF BEING
HERE TODAY.
AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING,
NORMALLY WE START WITH THE
IDENTITY OF THE VICTIMS AND THE
LEADS US TO THE KILLER.
HERE WE ARE CONFIDENT WE HAVE
THE KILLER, AND NOW WE WANT TO
IDENTIFY THESE VICTIMS.
THAT IS OUR GOAL.
AT THIS POINT, WE'RE HAPPY TO
STEP OUT AND TAKE QUESTIONS.
ALL OF THESE MATERIALS ARE
AVAILABLE TO YOU AFTERWARDS,
EVEN MORE DETAIL IN THOSE
MATERIALS AS WELL AVAILABLE TO
YOU.
A DISK WITH THOSE MATERIALS AS
WELL AS THE PHOTOGRAPHS THAT
WERE USED TODAY.
IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, WE
WILL TAKE HIM NOW.
SIR?
>> JUST TO GET ON THE RECORD
[INDISCERNIBLE]
>> DAWN IS LISA.
SHE DOES NOT WANT THAT REVEALED
AS FAR AS WHERE SHE LIVES.
>> LISA.
I'M ASKING, WHERE IS SHE?
>> SHE HAS ASKED AS TO KEEP THAT
PRIVATE.
SHE IS MARRIED WITH THREE
CHILDREN.
SHE IS HAVING A GREAT LIFE.
AGAIN, SHE WAS A SIGNIFICANT
VICTIM IN THIS CASE.
BOB EVANS WAS AN ABUSER.
SHE HAS ASKED FOR HER PRIVACY TO
BE RESPECTED.
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENC IN
TERMS OF FINDING MORE VICTIMS?
>> WE ARE CONCERNED BASED ON
WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT HIS
PROCLIVITIES THAT HE COULD HAVE
CERTAINLY HURT OTHER PEOPLE.
HE IS A PERSON WHO DID NOT WANT
TO BE ALONE.
HE WAS SEEN WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
WE HAVE INFORMATION HE WAS SEEN
WITH OTHER WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
ONE THEORY IS HE WAS USING THESE
CHILDREN ARE NOT JUST AS AN
ABUSER, BUT ALSO BAIT TO LURE
OTHER PEOPLE TO HIM.
WE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT HE
DID DURING THAT 12 YEAR PER
TIMEIOD.
WE DON'T KNOW, THOUGH.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> SURE.
>> JEFF, WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT
[INDISCERNIBLE]
WAS HE MOLESTING CHILDREN ALONG
THE WAY?
[INDISCERNIBLE]
>> ALL OF THIS INFORMATION IS
GOING O AND WILL BE PUT OUT
NATIONAL AS WE SPEAK.
WE WILL SEEP WE HEAR BACK.
AS FAR AS THE DETAILS, I WILL
JUST SAY HE WAS AN ABUSER TO
RESPECT THE VICTIMS.
THAT HELPS EXPLAIN SOME OF HIS
MOTIVES FOR WHY HE WAS,
UNFORTUNATELY, GRAVITATING
TOWARD CHILDREN, BUT ALSO
EXPANDS WHY HE ENDED UP KILLING
HIS VICTIMS AS HE DID.
YES, MARK.
I AM A LITTLE UNCLEAR ABOUT
DENISE BEAUDIN, REPORTED MISSING
[INDISCERNIBLE]
SECOND, DO YOU CALL THIS A
SERIAL KILLER?
>> TO YOUR LAST QUESTION, HE'S
REALLY FITS THE PROFILE OF A
SERIAL KILLER.
WE HAVE ONE CONFIRMED VICTIM,
BUT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE, WE
BELIEVE HE KILLED FOUR IN
ALLENSTOWN, ANY SCUM AND
CONCERNS ABOUT THE MOTHER OF
THAT MIDDLE CHILD.
-- FOUR CHILDREN I ALLENSTOWN,
DENISE, AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE
MOTHER OF THAT MIDDLE CHILD.
DIFFERENT FAMILIES HAVE
DIFFERENT DYNAMICS.
DITTIES AND BOB EVANS WERE
HAVING FINANCIAL PROBLEMS.
THE FAMILY BELIEVES THEY LEFT
BECAUSE OF FINANCIAL PROBLEMS.
WAS ALSO BEFORE INTERNET, SOCIAL
MEDIA, SO CERTAINLY WAS NOT AS
EASY TO KEEP CONNECTED WITH
PEOPLE.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS COMBINED
EXPLAINS WHY SHE WAS NOT
OFFICIALLY A MISSING PERSON
UNTIL MOST RECENTLY.
AND THAT IS WHAT CAUSED US TO
SEARCH THE PROPERTY AS WELL AND
WHAT THE PROPERTY WAS NOT
SEARCHED UNTIL RECENTLY.
>> SO SHE WASN'T OFFICIALLY A
MISSING PERSON, HOW ARE THE
AUTHORITIES IN CALIFORNIA
LINKING HER?
>> IT WAS THROUGH DNA.
LISA DID NOT HAVE MUCH
INFORMATION ABOUT HER
BACKGROUND, JUST SHADOWS.
THROUGH DN TESTS ON HER USING
VARIOUS WEBSITES AVAILABLE OUT
THERE, THEY ARE ABLE TO LINK A
DNA TRAIL BACK TO NEW HAMPSHIRE,
THE ACTIVE NEW HAMPSHIRE, BACK
TO COUSINS, EVENTUALLY WRITE TO
HER FAMILY ITSELF.
THAT IS WHAT LED HER BACK TO THE
NICE BEAUDIN'S FAMILY, DNA
TRAIL.
-- DENISE BEAUDIN'S FAMILY, DNA
TRAIL.
>> THE NAME ELIZABETH EVANS
[INDISCERNIBLE]
>> WE DON'T KNOW.
SHE POPS UP ON THE PAPERWORK.
HE MENTIONS HER.
WHETHER SHE IS ACTUALLY A REAL
PERSON OR NOT, WE SIMPLY DON'T
KNOW.
WE DON'T KNOW.
>>'S OR ANY INFORMATION ABOUT
EVANS AND THIS OTHER GIRL, THE
ONE --
>> THE MIDDLE CHILD?
>> THE MIDDLE CHILD.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION THAT
ANYONE SAW HIM WITH THAT MIDDLE
CHILD?
>> JUST TO CLARIFY, INNOSPEC'S
TO THE QUESTION OF ELIZABETH,
BASED ON THE RESEARCH, THERE IS
-- AND IT SPEAKS TO THE QUESTION
ELIZABETH, BASED ON THE
RESEARCH, THERE IS NO ONE HE WAS
RELATED TO OTHER THAN WITH
DENISE BEAUDIN.
THERE ARE CONFIRMED SIGHTINGS,
BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION, WITH
THE NICE BEAUDIN.
NO ONE KNOWS OF ANY OTHER
FAMILY.
THIS NAME ELIZABETH HOBBS OF THE
PAPERWORK.
THAT IS SOMETHING UNDER
INVESTIGATION AND REVIEW.
>> NO SIGN OF HUMAN REMAINS AND
THAT BASEMENT ON HAYWARD STREET,
BUT COULD THAT BE THE CRIME
SCENE WHERE SOME OF THESE
MURDERS TOOK PLACE?
IS THAT A POSSIBILITY?
ALL OF THE SEARCH EFFORTS
THAT CAN BE DONE HAVE BEEN DONE,
BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT A FAIRLY BIG GEOGRAPHIC
SPREAD WERE THESE THINGS WERE
OCCURRING.
SO IT IS POSSIBLE.
>> YES, MA'AM.
SO HE KILLED HIS OWN CHILD
AND HE TAKES DENISE'S CHILD, WHO
IS NOT HIS, WITH HIM.
CAN YOU ELABORATE LITTLE BIT O
-- YOU SAID USING THE CHILD AS
BAIT, BUT CAN YOU PEACE TOGETHER
[INDISCERNIBLE]
>> NOT REALLY.
IT IS OBVIOUSLY PUZZLING AS TO
WHY HE WOULD LEAVE WITH A
SIX-MONTH-OLD.
WE HAVE THEIR RUSTY LEFT WITH
DENISE -- WE HAVE THEIR RISE HE
LEFT WITH DENISE FOR SHORT TIME.
WE CHECKED THE PROPERTY HAYWARD
STREET.
WE DID NOT THINK SHE WOULD BE
THERE.
IT IS CERTAINL POSSIBLE HE LEFT
WITH HER AND THE CHILD.
SOMEWHERE BETWEEN NEW HAMPSHIRE
AND CALIFORNIA, HE KILLED HER
AND DISPOSED OF HER.
HE HAD HIS REASONS FOR KEEPING
LISA WITH HIM, THEN HE DECIDED
HE DID NOT WANT HER ANYMORE.
EVENTUALLY, MOVED ON.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHO ELSE HE MOVED
ON TO IN THOSE 12 YEARS, BUT WE
KNOW HE ENDED UP WITH EUNSOON
JUN.
WHAT IS CLEAR IS THIS IS
SOMEBODY WHO TARGETS FEMALES,
SPECIFICALLY CHILDREN AS WELL.
AGAIN, WE KNOW HE IS AN ABUSER
AND THAT WAS PART OF THE
PURPOSE.
BEYOND THAT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY
HARD INFORMATION.
WE'RE HOPING PEOPLE WHO CAN FILL
IN THE BLANKS BETWEEN NEW
HAMPSHIRE AND CALIFORNIA FOR US
WHO MAY HAVING COUNTERED HIM.
THIS WAS A GUY WHO USED
DIFFERENT NAMES, VERY CAREFUL
ABOUT THE DETAILS HE GAVE OTHER
PEOPLE.
PEOPLE DID NOT REALLY KNOW
THINGS ABOUT HIM.
THEY SAID GENERALLY, HE WAS A
STRANGE GUY, BUT DID NOT HAVE A
LOT OF INFORMATION.
>> CAN YOU ELABORATE --
[INDISCERNIBLE]
>> JUST DIFFERENT PLACES THAT HE
WAS AT OR MAY HAVE BEEN.
PROBABLY USING A DIFFERENT NAME
AT A LOT OF THESE PLACES.
AS THE SERGEANT SHOWED YOU,
THERE ARE A LOT OF NAMES WE KNOW
FOR SURE HE WAS USING.
IT BEGS THE QUESTION, WHAT IS HE
RUNNING FROM?
THE FACT IS HE IS KILLING
PEOPLE, THAT IS WHY HE WAS USING
VARIOUS NAMES.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> BOB EVANS IS NOT HER FATHER.
THERE IS BEEN DNA WORK DONE ON
THAT, NARROWED DOWN TO SOME
EXTENT.
WE DO NOT DEFINITIVELY KNOW WHO
THE FATHER IS, BUT WE KNOW FOR
SURE IT IS NOT BOB EVANS.
>> DENISE BEAUDIN, HOW CLOSE ARE
YOU ON FINDING HER?
>> WHAT I TOLD YOU IS THE
CLOSEST WE ARE TO FINDING HER.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE WENT
FROM THE FALL OF 1981.
FROM THAT POINT ON, SHE IS NEVER
HEARD FROM OR SEEN FROM AGAIN.
LISA HAS SOME SHADOWY MEMORIES
OF A FEMALE FIGURE.
WHETHER THAT IS HER MOTHER OR
SOME OTHER FEMALE THAT BOB EVANS
HAD MET, WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW.
THE KNEES IS NEVER SEEN --
DENISE IS NEVER SEEN FROM OR
HEARD FROM AGAIN AFTER
THANKSGIVING 1981.
BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT BOB
EVANS, WE BELIEVE HE KILLED HER
BETWEEN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND
CALIFORNIA.
>> COULD BE ALIVE?
I DON'T THINK ANY OF US WITH
THINK THAT IS A REASONABLE
CONCLUSION BASED ON WHAT WE
KNOW.
IS IT POSSIBLE?
IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT THINK
RACED ON WHAT WE KNOW, THE
CONCLUSION IS THAT SHE IS DEAD
SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN NEW
HAMPSHIRE AND CALIFORNIA.
WE WILL GO BACK TO ALLENSTOWN TO
LOOK JUST IN CASE.
BACK IN THE CORNER?
>> YOU MENTIONED TARGETED WOMEN
AND CHILDREN, BUT WE DON'T KNOW
THE FATHERS OF THOSE CHILDREN.
IS YOUR SEARCH ALSO EXPANDED TO
PERHAPS MALE VICTIMS AS WELL?
ANY VICTIMS OF BOB EVANS.
WE SEE A PATTERN OF FEMALE
VICTIMS, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT,
RECENTLY DON'T KNOW WHAT
HAPPENED TO THE FATHERS OF THOSE
VARIOUS INDIVIDUALS AS WELL.
WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HIS
MOTIVE, HOW HE OPERATED.
IS HE CARRYING ON MULTIPLE LIVES
AT THE SAME TIME?
WHEN IS HE KILLING ONE GROUP
VERSUS THE OTHER GROUP?
WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW THAT.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO
THOSE INDIVIDUALS, EITHER.
WE KNOW WE HAVE SOMEBODY WHO
COULD BE A SERIAL KILLER, SO
THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE OTHER
VICTIMS.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> SURE.
THE MAN -- I WILL CALL HIM BOB
EVANS TO MAKE IT EASIER.
SO BOB EVANS A WOMAN IN
CALIFORNIA, PARTIALLY
DISMEMBERED HER AND BERRIES ARE
IN A BASEMENT.
DNA CONFIRMS THAT HE IS THE
FATHER OF THE MIDDLE CHILD
VICTIM IN ALLENSTOWN.
EVANS IS THE SAME MAN WHO WAS
WITH DENISE BEAUDIN IN THE
TIMEFRAME BEFORE SHE DISAPPEARED
HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
HE WORKED AT THE WOMBECK MILLS
WITH THE PERSON WHO OWNED THE
PROPERTY IN ALLENSTOWN WHERE THE
VICTIMS WERE FOUND.
HE HAD DONE WORK FOR THAT
PERSON, KNOWN TO DUMP MATERIALS
FOR THE MILL ON THAT PROPERTY,
INCLUDING THE BARRELS.
WE KNOW HE WAS USING VARIOUS
ALIASES.
HONESTLY, HE WAS CONCERNED OR
WORRIED.
HE NEVER REPORTED THE MIDDLE
CHILD IS MISSING.
-- OBVIOUSLY, HE WAS CONCERNED
OR WORRIED.
HE NEVER REPORTED THE MIDDLE
CHILD AS MISSING.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THE DNA
SEARCH, AND HIT ON A COUSIN IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT BROUGHT DENISE BACK --
THAT BROUGHT DENISE'S DAUGHTER
BACK TO NEW HAMPSHIRE.
UNTIL WE GOT THE LINK THAT PUT
EVANS AS THE FATHER OF THE
MIDDLE CHILD, ALL OF THE
EVIDENCE IS COMING TOGETHER
CIRCUMSTANTIALLY TO PLACE EVANS
AT ALLENSTOWN SCENE.
LEARNING HE WAS THE FATHER OF
THE MIDDLE CHILD EXPLAINED A
LOT.
WE HAVE THE FOUR VICTIMS, BUT
THERE'S ONE VICTIM WHO STOOD OUT
LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE
OTHERS.
WAS WITH THE OTHERS PROBABLY AT
THE END, BUT NOT IN THE
BEGINNING.
HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT?
NOT MATERNALLY RELATED TO THE
OTHER THREE.
NOW WE UNDERSTAND IT IS BECAUSE
EVANS FOLLOWED THE CHILD WITH
ANOTHER - FATHERED THE CHILD
WITH ANOTHER WOMAN.
AT SOME POINT, THAT UNIT IT IT
UP TOGETHER.
PRESUMABLY, THE MOTHER OF THAT
CHILD IS GONE IN THE PROCESS.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
AS FAR AS I KNOW REGARDING
EUNSOON JUN, THE VICTIM IN
CALIFORNIA, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I DON'T TO SPEAK FOR THE CONTRA
COSTA COUNTY.
WE HAVE GONE DOWN THE ROAD
SPEAKING TO CELLMATES AND PEOPLE
WHO WOULD HAVE INTERACTED WITH
HIM AT THE TIME.
SO FAR, NO MENTION OF HIS TIME
HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> NOT THAT I KNOW OF.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AGAINST
HIS LAWYER'S WISHES, HE PLED
GUILTY.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE TWO
DIFFERENT THINGS GOING ON.
[INAUDIBLE]
IS DEAN IT WAS PUT INTO THE
SYSTEM -- HIS DNA WAS PUT INTO
THE SYSTEM?
WHEN HE WAS CONVICTED, IT WAS
UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME.
WAS HIS DNA INJURED WHEN HE WAS
CONVICTED?
>> HE IS GETTING LINKED UP UNDER
FINGERPRINTS.
THESE OTHER NAMES ARE CROPPING
UP.
THEY'RE STARTING TO REALIZE THIS
GUY THEY KNOW AS LAWRENCE VANNER
IS ACTUALLY ALL OF THESE OTHER
PEOPLE AND EVENTUALLY WERE ABLE
TO FIGURE OUT IT IS NOT EVANS.
>
-- FIGURE OUT IT IS BOB EVANS.
>> HAS HIS DNA BEEN RUN THROUGH
THE ENTIRE SYSTEM?
IS THERE WAY SCIENTIFICALLY --
>> IT DOESN'T QUITE WORK LIKE
THAT.
THERE ARE ALL KINDS OF
REQUIREMENTS ABOUT WHEN YOU PUT
DNA AND WHERE YOU CAN DO IT AND
WHEN YOU CAN DO IT.
I GUESS THAT IS MY QUESTION.
IN ORDER TO FIND OUT IF THIS GUY
IS A SERIAL KILLER, YOU HAVE TO
VISUALLY CHECK EACH CASE?
THERE'S NOTHING AUTOMATIC?
>> PROBABLY THE BEST WAY IS WHAT
HAS HAPPENED HERE, HIS PICTURE
GOES OUT AND PEOPLE SAY, OH, I
RECOGNIZED.
HE IS THE GUY WHO STOLE MY CAR
IN IDAHO.
I THINK THAT IS LIKELY HOW WE'RE
GOING TO DO IT.
OTHER THAN THE HOPE WE IDENTIFY
THE OTHER VICTIMS, I THINK WE
WILL RUN OUT OF THE DNA WHICH IS
WHY THE DECISION WAS MADE TO
REDU -- RELEASE THIS
INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> THEY MAY HA SOMETHING --
REMEMBER, A LOT OF THESE CASES
ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BE OLDER.
IT WAS BEFORE -- A LOT OF THIS
IS BEFORE DNA.
THAT IS WHAT WE ARE RUNNING
INTO.
CERTAINLY, WITH THE VICTIMS,
GIVEN THEIR AGE, A LOT OF THE
SAMPLES CAN BE DEGRADED.
THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS.
WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN.
YES, MA'AM?
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> I WILL LET THE SERGEANT TALK
ABOUT THAT.
>> ABSOLUTELY WE ARE CONSIDERING
THAT POSSIBILITY.
IT IS WELL KNOWN.
THERE ARE A SERIES OF MURDERS,
AMONGST OTHER STANDALONE CRIMES
IN THE STATE.
IT THIS POINT WE DO NOT HAVE
SPECIFIC CONCERNS REGARDING ANY
OTHER NEW HAMPSHIRE CASES.
WE ARE WITH THOSE INDIVIDUAL
CASES.
THIS IS VERY MUCH A WORK IN
PROGRESS TRYING TO ACCOUNT FOR
THIS MAN AND WHERE HE HAS BEEN
AND WHAT HE MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE
FOR.
THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE KEEPING
CAPS ON, YES -- TABS ON, YES.
>> ARE YOU SHOCKED AS EVERYONE
ELSE WHAT YOU ARE FINDING?
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO WHAT
YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE?
>> EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THIS, A
LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS
CASE OVER THE YEARS, PEOPLE HERE
WHO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT A
LONG TIME -- I DON'T KNOW IF
SHOCKED IS THE WORD.
WE ARE HAPPY WE WERE ABLE TO
MAKE PROGRESS.
I CANNOT REITERATE, HOMICIDE
CASE, YOU CANNOT IDENTIFY YOUR
VICTIMS, YOU'RE USUALLY STOCK.
HERE IT HAS GONE THE OPPOSITE.
WE HAVE IDENTIFIED OUR KILLER,
NOW HOPEFULLY, THAT HELPS IS
IDENTIFY THE VICTIMS.
I THINK WE ARE EXTREMELY
GRATIFIED WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO
MAKE THIS PROGRESS AND NOW WE
REALLY WANT TO IDENTIFY THESE
FOLKS, FIND THE MOTHER OF THE
SECOND CHILD -- HOPEFULLY,
DENISE TURNS OUT TO BE SOMEBODY
WHO IS A JANE DOE IN ANOTHER
STATE, SOME REMAINS.
WE'RE BEEN LOOKING INTO THAT AS
WELL.
I THINK EVERYONE IS MORE
OPTIMISTIC THAN WE HAVE BEEN
ABOUT CLOSING THE PIECES TO THE
PUZZLE.
DISAPPOINTMENT THAT BOB EVANS IS
DEAD AND WILL NEVER BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE FOR WHAT HE DID HERE
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE AND LIKELY TO
DENISE BEAUDIN.
AGAIN, OUR HAPPINESS IS TEMPERED
WITH THAT REALIZATION THAT HE
WILL NEVER FACE TRUE JUSTICE FOR
WHAT HE DID.
[INAUDIBLE]
>> I WOULD NOT USE THOSE TERMS.
HE MEETS THE CRITERIA OF BEING A
SERIAL KILLER BASED ON HOW MANY
VICTIMS WE BELIEVE ARE HERE.
IF YOU TAKE THE FOUR ALLENSTOWN
VICTIMS, CONCERNS ABOUT THE
MOTHER OF THE MIDDLE CHILD,
DENISE BEAUDIN, AND WE KNOW
EUNSOON JUN, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS
A PATTERN FOR THE MAN.
WE HAVE THE WHOLE TIME IN THE
1970'S WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT
BEFORE NEW HAMPSHIRE.
>> CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT
DENISE, HER OWN GENEALOGY --
[INDISCERNIBLE]
SHE IS HANDED OFF TO SOME
PEOPLE AND A CAMPGROUND,
EVENTUALLY PLACED IN A FOSTER
HOME AND ADOPTED THEM BY A GREAT
FAMILY.
I THINK IT IS NATURAL THAT THE
HISTORY, AS FAR AS HER MOTHER,
SHE HAS NO SPECIFIC MEMORIES OF
HER MOTHER, JUST SHADOWY
FIGURES.
SHE WAS ASSISTED TRYING TO FIND
OUT HER FAMILY AND HAS BEEN
EXTREMELY HAPPY TO FIND OUT WHO
HER FAMILIES, RECONNECT WITH HER
GRANDFATHER AND FAMILY IN NEW
HAMPSHIRE.
IT IS PROVIDED FOR CLOSURE AND
CLOSURE SHE HOPES OTHER VICTIMS
IN THIS CASE GET.
SHE IS GONE ONTO A GOOD LIFE.
WE ARE EXTREMELY HAPPY FOR HER.
>> WAS A USEFUL TO THE
INVESTIGATION?
ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS A SIGNIFICANT LINK TO BOB
EVANS BECAUSE OF ITS CONNECTION
TO DENISE.
WHEN YOU SEE WITH THE
INVESTIGATORS HAVE FOUND ABOUT
EVANS' LINK IN THE ALLENSTOWN
SIMILARITIES, IT CLOSES THE GAP
ON HIM AS THE KILLER.
[INDISCERNIBLE]
>> IT IS AN IMPORTANT CATALYST,
CERTAINLY.
>> IS IT BASED ON A TATTOO OR
[INDISCERNIBLE]
>> IT IS MORE BASED ON SOME OF
THE THINGS, SPECIFICALLY IN THE
DOCUMENTATION.
WE HAVE SOME DOCUMENTATION THE
SUBJECT WROTE.
THERE IS A LETTER HE WROTE AND
THINGS LIKE THAT.
IT IS BASED ON LITTLE THINGS,
THE WAY HE WOULD WRITE DATES
IN A MILITARY FASHION.
THE WAY HE WOULD FIX CERTAIN
THINGS SEEM TO BE A LITERARY
TRICKS, SO TO SPEAK MOST OF IT
IS NOTHING CONCRETE.
WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH
UNDERWAY TO TRY TO NAIL THAT
DOWN.
IT IS TOUGH NOT KNOWING THE REAL
IDENTITY.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
THINGS LIKE THAT THAT SPEAK
TO THE MILITARY.
BACK TO THE ADOPTION QUESTION.
ONE POINT TO MAKE.
I THINK OF A SIGNIFICANT WHEN HE
WAS CAUGHT IN 2002 FOR THE
EUNSOON JUN MURDER.
THAT IS WHEN THE DNA TESTING
CONFIRMED HE WAS NOT LISA'S
FATHER.
I THINK I THOUGHT HE PROBABLY
WAS UNTIL THAT POINT.
SO THAT WAS A GAME CHANGER FOR
SAN BERNARDINO'S INVESTIGATION
BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE A LIVING
JANE DOUGH THEY'RE TRYING TO
ACCOUNT FOR.
IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE'RE NOT SURE IF IT IS THE
SUMMER GIVEN DENISE'S PREGNANCY,
SO IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN EARLIER IN
THE YEAR.
IT JUST HAS A DATE ON IT AND
THAT IS THE DATE BACK THEN WHEN
PICTURES WERE DEVELOPED.
WE THINK IT IS EARLIER,
PROBABLY.
>> SO THAT TIMEFRAME, HE IS WITH
HER, SHE IS VERY PREGNANT.
OR YOU ABLE TO GET A SENSE OF
WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THEM,
NEIGHBORS [INDISCERNIBLE]
DID HE KNOW THAT WAS NOT HIS
CHILD BACK THEN?
>> WE DON'T KNOW THAT HE TALKED
TO ANYBODY ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT
THAT WAS HIS CHILD.
AS FAR AS THE RELATIONSHIP, WE
HAVE RECORDS THAT GIVE SOME
HINTS IN THE RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE TWO.
CERTAINLY, IT WAS TUMULTUOUS,
BUT NOT A LOT OF DETAILS, QUITE
FRANKLY.
>> [INDISCERNIBLE]
>> NO POLICE REPORTS LIKE THAT.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
PEOPLE SAYING THEY WERE ARGUING?
WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME
CONFIDENTIAL RECORDS THAT I
WOULD SAY SHOW IT WAS NOT A
SMOOTH RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE
TWO OF THEM.
THAT IS THE BEST I CAN GIVE YOU
RIGHT NOW.
THE GERMAN IN THE CORNER -- THE
GENTLEMAN IN THE CORNER?
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> WE ARE NOT.
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, HE WENT WITH
BOB EVANS.
HE WENT WITH AT LEAST FIVE
CONFIRMED ALIASES, POTENTIALLY
MORE.
I THINK WE ARE CONFIDENT HIS
REAL NAME IS NOT BOB EVANS.
I THINK WE WOULD BE SURPRISED IF
HIS NAME WAS BOB EVANS.
WE DON'T KNOW EXACT WE HOW OLD
HE IS, SO WE DON'T HAVE MUCH OF
A LIFE YET BEFORE HE SHOWS UP IN
MANCHESTER IN THE LATE 1970'S.
THE HOPE IS THAT PEOPLE SEE HIS
PICTURE, HERE ABOUT SOME OF
THOSE ACTIVITIES, AND SAY, HEY,
I REMEMBER THAT GUY WITH A WOMAN
AND TWO KIDS OR A REMEMBER THAT
GUY WITH A WOMAN AND A KID, AND
MAYBE THAT HELPS US BACK INTO
WHO HE WAS AND WHO THE VICTIMS
WERE.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> YES, THEY DID.
MARK?
THE ALLENSTOWN THREE.
ARE YOU CONVINCED THAT EVANS HAD
A RELATIONSHIP OR COULD'VE BEEN
A RANDOM THING, THEIR CAR BROKE
DOWN ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND
HE PICKED THEM UP --
THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
WE LOOK AT HIS HISTORY, WE SEE
THIS AS A GUY WH WOULD
INGRATIATE HIMSELF SOMEHOW.
COULD THERE BE VICTIMS OUT THERE
LIKE THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT?
CERTAINLY.
AND THIS LOOKS LIKE A GUY WHO
DID NOT WANT TO BE ALONE, WITH
FORMER RELATIONSHIPS COME AND
TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT
RELATIONSHIP.
AT SOME POINT, HE WOULD END IT.
>> [INAUDIBLE]
>> I DON'T THINK SHE HAD ANY
CHILDREN.
>> WHAT NAMES WAS EVANS
CONVICTED UNDER?
>> CURTIS CAMPBELL.
-- CURTIS KIMBALL.
>> YET THIS WORKING THEORY
[INAUDIBLE]
>> WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW THAT.
IT COULD BE FOR PACKAGING AND
DISPOSAL PURPOSES.
THAT IS WHAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
IS IT PART OF WHAT HE LIKED TO
DO?
WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW THAT.
WE SIMPLY DON'T KNOW.
IT CERTAINLY MADE IT EASIER.
THE ADULT FEMALE AND OLDEST
CHILD, LARGEST OF THE FOUR
VICTIMS, SO IT MADE IT EASIER
FOR THEM TO PACKAGE UP.
WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE HE KEPT
THOSE VICTIMS.
DID HE KEEP THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE
BEFORE HE DISPOSED OF THEM?
IT SEEMED LIKE A HASTY DISPOSAL.
WE SURMISE IT WAS AROUND THE
TIME HE LEFT NEW HAMPSHIRE AND
HEADED TO CALIFORNIA THAT HE
DUMPED THOSE BODIES OUT THERE.
NOT SIGNIFICANT EFFORTS.
>> A LOT OF QUESTIONS REMAIN
[INAUDIBLE]
ADAM: YOU BEEN WATCHING A PRESS
CONFERENCE LED BY THE ATTORNEY
GENERAL.
POSSIBLE SERIAL KILLER OPERATING
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE WHOSE IDENTITY
HAS BEEN ALMOST UNKNOWN.
HE IS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BOB
EVANS, BUT ANY NAME IS POSSIBLE
AT THIS POINT.
THAT SUSPECT, ROBERT BOB EVANS,
DIED IN PRISON IN 2010, BUT NOW
HE IS BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN
INVOLVED IN THE ALLENSTOWN COLD
CASE HOMICIDE.
THE LINK IS HE IS THE FATHER OF
THE MIDDLE OF THE THREE GIRLS
THAT WERE FOUND BURIED IN DRUMS
ON A PROPERTY IN BEAR BROOK
STATE PARK.
THEY ALSO BELIEVE HE KILLED
DENISE BEAUDIN AND HAD HER
DAUGHTER WITH HIM BEFORE
DROPPING HER WITH STRANGERS IN
CALIFORNIA.
HE MERIT A WOMAN IN CALIFORNIA,
EUNSOON JUN, IN EARLY 2000
HOSTILE, KILLED HER -- 2000'S,
KILLED HER AND WAS CONVICTED IN
CALIFORNIA UNDER THE NAME OF
CURTIS KIMBALL.
A NUMBER OF OPEN ENDS TO THIS
CASE.
BOB EVANS CONVICTED OF
MURDER IN CALIFORNIA, SUSPECTED
OF FIVE.
MUCH MORE IN THIS CASE AT NOON
AND ON OUR EARLY EVENING
NEWSCAST.
WE NOW REJOIN OUR REGULARLY
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