>> WELCOME TO THE WDSU NEWS HOT
SEAT.
TONIGHT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A
LOT OF ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
WE HAVE A VERY SPECIAL GUEST,
THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW CHAIR AT
THE UNIT -- LOYOLA UNIVERSITY
AND FORMER EPA DEPUTY
ADMINISTRATOR DURING THE OBAMA
YEARS.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
FIRST OFF THE PARENTS CLIMATE
ACCORD, AS WELL AS PROTECTING
THE LOUISIANA COAST.
LET'S START OFF WITH A TOPIC
THAT SHOULD BE INTERESTING TO A
LOT OF OUR VIEWERS.
YOU ARE LEAVING A LOT OF LAW
PROFESSORS THAT ARE CHALLENGING
THE PRESIDENTIAL ORDER ON
REGULATIONS.
IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN TO OUR
VIEWERS WHAT THAT IS AND WHY IT
IS IMPORTANT.
ROBERT: THERE WAS A FLURRY OF
EXECUTIVE ORDERS AT THE
ADMINISTRATION.
PART OF THAT WAS BECAUSE IT
SEEMED LIKE AN EASY WAY TO GET
THINGS DONE WITHOUT HAVING THE
SENATE OR HOUSE GETTING
INVOLVED.
ONE THING THE PRESIDENT DID WAS
ORDER HIS AGENCIES TO
ESSENTIALLY STOP REGULATING FOR
HEALTH AND SAFETY ENVIRONMENTAL
CONCERNS, UNLESS THEY COULD SHOW
THEIR WORK --SHOW THAT THERE
WERE TWO OTHER REGULATIONS THEY
CAN GET RID OF TO MAKE ROOM FOR
THIS NEW PRODUCTION.
THE PROBLEM IS THESE ARE THINGS
LIKE SAFE DRINKING WATER
STANDARDS, SAFE AIR STANDARDS --
THINGS THAT WE ALL BENEFIT FROM
IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE PRESIDENT IS ORDERING
AGENCIES NOT TO CONSIDER THE
BENEFITS, BUT ONLY TO LOOK AT
THE COST TO THE INDUSTRY THAT IS
REGULATED.
WE THINK THAT IS ILLEGAL.
THERE ARE SEVERAL LAWSUITS NOW.
TRAVERS: THIS WILL BE AN UPHILL
BATTLE FOR YOUR GROUP.
ROBERT: I THINK OVER TIME THERE
WILL BE A SIZABLE CHALLENGE
BASED ON THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER,
BASED ON OUR LAWSUIT OR ANOTHER
LAWSUIT LATER.
THE KEY IS -- THERE ARE LOTS OF
INNOVATIVE COMPANIES THAT WANT
CERTAIN KINDS OF SAFETY
REGULATIONS.
IF YOU WERE MAKING DRIVERLESS
CARS, YOU WANT THERE TO BE
SAFETY REGULATIONS SO YOU CAN
GET THEM ON THE ROAD.
YOU DON'T WANT THE DEPARTMENT OF
TRANSPORTATION TO GET RID OF THE
SAFETY REGULATION ON FAIRBANKS,
-- ON AIRBAGS OR ON ANTILOCK
BRAKES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THIS NEW
TECHNOLOGY.
THAT IS NOT THE WAY GOVERNMENT
DECISION-MAKING IS SUPPOSED TO
WORK.
ROBERT: YOU WERE THE CHAIR OF
THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAW PROGRAM AT
LOYOLA AND WORKED AT THE EPA.
CLIMATE -- PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD,
190 COUNTRIES.
A SHOCKING MOVE WHEN MOST PEOPLE
HEARD ABOUT THIS NEWS.
ROBERT: IT IS A BIT OF A HEAD
SCRATCHER.
THE PARIS AGREEMENT IS OVER 190
COUNTRIES ALL GETTING TOGETHER,
PROMISING TO KEEP THE LEVEL OF
TEMPERATURE RISE TO A LEVEL THAT
IS MANAGEABLE, SO THAT WE AVOID
CATASTROPHIC IMPACTS THAT WE
CAN'T MANAGE.
THINGS LIKE SUPERSTORM'S AND SEA
LEVEL RISE, MASSIVE DROUGHTS AND
THESE THINGS.
THE KEY IS THAT EVERY COUNTRY
GETS TO CHOOSE ITS OWN GOAL AND
HOW TO ACCOMPLISH IT.
FUNCTIONALLY IT IS VOLUNTARY.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT EVEN FOR A
PRESIDENT THAT WASN'T THAT GUNG
HO ON CLIMATE CHANGE, YOU MIGHT
SAY, LET'S JUST STAY INSIDE WE
CAN INFLUENCE THE PROCESS, SO WE
CAN DECIDE THE INDUSTRIES I WILL
BE REWARDED, WHAT COUNTRIES WILL
BE ABLE TO MAKE MONEY OUT OF
THIS.
BUT TO SIMPLY BACK OUT
COMPLETELY, THERE DOESN'T SEEM
TO BE MUCH OF A PRACTICAL REASON
TO DO IT, OTHER THAN TO SEND A
SIGNAL, WHICH I THINK MAYBE WHAT
THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO.
TRAVERS: THE U.S. REPRESENTS
OVER 80% OF THE WORLD'S
GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
A U.S. WITHDRAWAL IS THE SECOND
HUMAN OR IN THE GLOBE -- EMITTER
IN THE GLOBE'S PRESENT-DAY
EMISSIONS.
PULLING OUT SENDS A BAD MESSAGE?
ROBERT: CERTAINLY.
IT IS REALLY GOING TO CAUSE, I
THINK, SOME STRIFE AMONG OTHER
COUNTRIES WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD
ALLIANCES WITH.
ONE WAY IT COULD GO, YOU COULD
SAY THIS IS THE LARGEST ECONOMY
ON THE WORLD, AND THEREFORE WE
ARE NOT GOING TO KEEP THIS
TEMPERATURE LEVEL.
AND WE WILL HAVE THESE
CATASTROPHIC IMPACTS.
THAT IS A TERRIBLE THING NOT
JUST FOR THE REST OF THE WORLD,
BUT THE LOUISIANA TOO.
THE OTHER WAY IT COULD GO IS
THAT THE REST OF THE GLOBAL
IMMUNITY MIGHT SAY, WE ARE GOING
TO DOUBLE UP ON THIS.
CHINA AND EUROPEAN NATIONS WILL
COME TOGETHER AND ESSENTIALLY
PLAN THE TRANSITION TO A
RENEWABLE ENERGY ECONOMY AND
LEAVE THE U.S. IN THE SHADOWS.
THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE REST
OF THE WORLD PROBABLY, BUT NOT
FOR THE UNITED STATES.
TRAVERS: LET'S TALK ABOUT
ANOTHERTRAVERS: TOPIC, FLOOD
PROTECTION.
WE ARE IN HURRICANE SEASON.
NO ONE WANTS ANOTHER STORM, BUT
WE HAVE TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
RIGHT NOW UNDER THE PRESIDENT'S
BUDGET THERE IS NO MONEY FOR
LOUISIANA PROJECTS.
THAT INCLUDES A $744 MILLION
LAKE COUNTRY TRAIN PROJECT THAT
WOULD AFFECT RIVER PARISHES THAT
FLOODED IN 2012,ND THE GULF
PROJECT.
IS IT SHOCKING THOSE PROJECTS
WON'T BE FUNDED IN 2018?
ROBERT: I WAS SURPRISED.
THIS IS A PROPOSED BUDGET, SO A
LOT CAN HAPPEN.
IT IS UP TO FOLKS IN LOUISIANA
AND ELSEWHERE IN THE GULF TO
MAKE SURE THEIR CONGRESSPEOPLE
ARE APPRISED OF THIS, AND THEY
KEEP THAT FUNDING IN.
AGAIN, IT IS KIND OF A HEAD
SCRATCHER BECAUSE IN FOR
STRUCTURE IS SOMETHING THE
PRESIDENT CAMPAIGNED ON.
I AM NOT SURE WHAT THE
ADMINISTRATION IS THINKING AT
THIS POINT, OTHER THAN THAT THEY
ARE JUST TRYING TO SAVE MONEY AT
EVERY TWIST AND TURN, EVEN IF IT
WILL OPEN US UP TO MORE EXPENSES
LATER ON.
TRAVERS: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF
CONGRESSMAN CEDRIC RICHMOND, YOU
HAVE AN ENTIRELY REPUBLICAN
DELEGATION HERE IN LOUISIANA,
INCLUDING GARY GRAVES, WHO
REPRESENTS A LOT OF THESE
PARISHES.
DO THEY HAVE TO GO TO WASHINGTON
DC AND ASK FOR FUNDING, BECAUSE
THESE ARE PEOPLE LIVING ALONG
THE COASTAL LOUISIANA AREA?
ROBERT: THEY HAVE TO DO THAT,
AND I THINK THEY SHOULD.
IT IS NOT JUST THESE
INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.
IT IS SEA GRANT PROGRAMS ACROSS
THE COUNTRY.
THERE IS A LOT TO BE MOST
REGIONALLY IF WE DON'T PROTECT
THOSE SOURCES OF REVENUE.
TRAVERS: FINAL TOPIC -- OFFSHORE
OIL AND GAS.
HE PRESIDENT'S BUDGET
WOULD/ROYALTIES TO LOUISIANA AND
ALABAMA BY $3.5 BILLION OVER THE
NEXT DECADE.
THIS.
I THIS ANOTHER THING THAT HAS TO
WORK ITS WAY THROUGH CAPITOL
HILLS?
TRAVERS: I THINK THAT IS RIGHT.
THE SAVING GRACE IS THAT WE HAVE
THESE OTHER GULF STATES THAT
CLEARLY WANT THAT SOURCE OF
REVENUE.
PERHAPS THERE IS SAFETY IN
NUMBERS.
I AGAIN WAS SURPRISED BY THAT
ONE.
TO BE FAIR, THE OBAMA
ADMINISTRATION ALSO IMPOSED
THOSE REVENUES.
IT IS A REGIONAL CONCERN WE HAVE
NOT BEEN ABLE TO PERSUADE AT THE
WASHINGTON DC POWER STRUCTURE.
TRAVERS: PEOPLE ELECT THEIR
OFFICIALS FOR CERTAIN REASONS.
THEY HAVE TO BE FIGHTING AT
CAPITOL HILL TO KEEP THIS MONEY
IN PLACE FOR LOUISIANA.
ROBERT: IT IS EASY TO SAY THAT
THE GOVERNMENT SPENDS TOO MUCH
MONEY UNTIL IT IS MONEY THAT
ACTUALLY AFFECTS YOUR
LIVELIHOOD, YOUR PERSONAL
PROSPERITY.
THAT IS WHY WE ELECT OUR LEADERS
TO GO TO WASHINGTON DC TO
PROTECT THOSE THINGS.
TRAVERS: ENVIRONMENTAL LAW CHAIR
AND LOYOLA UNIVERSITY AND FORMER
EPA ADMINISTRATOR.
WE COULD TALK THE WHOLE
HALF-HOUR, UNFORTUNATELY WE ARE
OUT OF TIME.
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