This is DeliveranceMinistry.FM Videocast #30.
Hello again everybody.
Welcome to another episode of Deliverance Ministry Dot fm where we give you proven insights
about the demonic realm and deliverance ministry so you can wage spiritual warfare more effectively.
This Dr Don Ibbitson and I'm here with my cohost and colleague Dr Phyllis Tarbox.
Hey, how are you today?
Good.
Good.
We're ready and excited to do another podcast for you.
And I'll tell you, this is a first of all that we've done.
This is the first podcast that we're going to conduct today.
It is so long that we're going to have to split it into two parts.
We looked at doing it all in one and it was going to be too long and we try to keep these
in manageable half an hour or so, bite sized chunks for you.
And so we felt like rather than try to do one, it wouldn't be comprehensive enough.
We split it into two parts, one and two.
So with that, let me tell you what the topic is about.
This topic is on spiritual roots of sickness and disease and part of the reason that we've
had so much to cover is that we've got a lot of information this year.
We've got some teaching things we want to share, we want to, and really in the second
or part two of this, we're going to give you more of our success stories and our experiences
with clients and whatnot.
Getting, getting healed, if you like, from, from sickness and disease.
So, um, so we've got a lot to cover in this first one who kind of want to lay the groundwork
for you, explain what we mean by spiritual roots of sickness and disease and that's going
to take some time.
And as they say in part two, when we released the next one, we will review some of this
but really focus on and show you some very specifics of how God's moved to bring healing
to people, um, after dealing with some of the spiritual roots that are behind it.
And so with that kind of meandering preamble, I think we'll just jump right in here and
get started on, on what I, I, it's tough to do.
I'm going to say this.
So please bear with me here.
As we know, there's no videos, there's no powerpoints, there's just, I just want to
try to share some teaching with you because I feel like we need to do that, be to, to
explain what we mean by spiritual roots of sickness and disease.
So just fasten your seat belts and I'll try to hopefully make it as clear as I can here
if you follow it.
A lot of our teachings and what we listened and what we teach on and our approach to deliverance
is we use the concept of a body, soul and spirit model.
Where a person has a body is in a body physical container.
We have a soul or mind memory and emotions are.
And then we have a spirit man that we come to Christ.
We get born again, we get a new spirit, but we don't get a new soul, and the of deliverance
ministry, which is a driving out of demons, is we teach and help people understand that
the demonic spirits can be residing in our soulless realm, in our soul, and in our body.
Demons can reside in our body and our soul, and if they're infant, they're in our soul
and they need to be driven out.
That's deliverance.
If they're in our body than they.
We need deliverance too many times for those demons to come out so that healing can manifest,
and so that's the concept we believe and teach and and on, you know, just with no ifs, ands,
or buts.
That sickness and disease is from the demonic realm.
Jesus doesn't want us sick.
He wants his heel.
The says, by his stripes you were healed and he is getting.
The good news for us today is that he is given his church, his body of believers, and we're
above and beyond.
We're part of that just like just you are.
He's given us power and authority to bring healing and deliverance to people.
And so that's kind of the premise, kind of a high level flyby of, of, of just what we're
going to be talking about here.
And now I want to move into, talk a little bit about healing for a moment or two.
We see in obviously in the Bible that Jesus did heal those instances in scripture.
He came across sick people or people with injuries or disease were brought to him.
He healed them.
And I tell people this, you know, is it God's will will be healed and say, well, look at
everybody that came to Jesus or it was brought to him in faith.
He healed them.
Every one of them.
And we see instances where he would lay hands on them and they would lay hands on people
too sick to heal them.
And we really didn't.
But certainly in Mark Eight, 23, he laid hands on the blind man.
Luke 4:40, it talks about laying hands on people and healing all who were brought to
him.
So we understand that, that Jesus heal people through laying on of hands.
But there's a, there's a, there are other scriptures.
But there's one I want to highlight on in scripture that talks about instances where
Jesus brought about physical healing through deliverance.
He drove a spirit of a woman in that account is in luke 13 where it says, a woman who was
crippled by a spirit of infirmity of Abraham, she was a daughter of Abraham, a believer,
and so we've talked about these and go over these and others, some other podcasts and
encourage you to use to subscribe and listen to all the podcasts that we have.
But sometimes healing comes that way if you needed deliverance from a spirit of infirmity
there and your body than you need.
And that's got to happen to me.
Healing comes.
All right.
So that's the element of kind of healing in the physical body.
Now I want to talk a little bit about this and transitioned into this concept that the
notion that these spirits that are in our body or, or, um, that many times, those spirits
that are in our body, we're invited in by other spirits.
In other words, there can be, um, spirits that are in our soulless realm that also,
that, that are invited in by spirits and I, and I want to clarify this by, by, by courage
you needed to do to look at a resource that we use and we rely on heavily that we got
exposed to year ago, years ago.
It's a book called a more excellent way, and it's by a gentleman by the name of Henry Wright
and he is a base, a pastor.
He has a ministry in Georgia.
He's a pastor, he's not a doctor, he's not a psychologist and he's done a lot of work
over the years on healing and spiritual roots of sickness and disease.
And that's the title for this podcast.
And, and just say it as clearly as, as I can here, once again, without the benefit of visual
aids.
What the contention is that we believe is that spirits can invite another spirits.
In other words, people can have infirmities or sicknesses in their bodies and diagnosis
sicknesses, diseases.
But many times there were other spirits like fear or anger or depression that invited those
in.
Right?
And so that's what we want to talk about is sometimes the and, and, and a lot of the things
that we call sicknesses and diseases, and we'll talk about this in a moment in the room
of like syndromes or disorders.
They're really a lot of the things that are in our, they're in our soulless realm too.
There's, there's, there are physical manifestations rather, but there are spirits there that opened
the door to these diagnoses of syndromes and disorders.
And we're going to touch on some of those in a minute.
So I wanted to at least get that out there that I'm just as to give, give honor where
honor is due.
We really have balloon blessed a lot and we've incorporated a lot of a pastor Henry Wright's
materials into our approach to deliverance.
And, and the reason we do that is because when we ministered deliverance for people,
we pray through a list of strongholds and there's three columns of them.
And you know, we started, we've got hottie spirits, we've got deaf and dumb, and then
we go fear and there's heaviness, jealousy and anger.
And then in the third column is where the infirmities are and we spend time ministry
and healing and praying for healing and deliverance in that.
But, but what's so interesting is that, you know, the, the one, the spirits that opened
doors, like the pride, the fear, we, we call those out first before we get to infinity.
And so that's the point that like kind of get you to visualize that it's people we get
these diagnoses, we get these labels put on us, but there can be other spirits, other
things in our life, things that have happened to us that have opened the door for this sick
upon us.
And we'll, we'll, we'll give you some specific examples of that in a little bit here.
I won't try to, if it's a little murky right now, I understand.
Try to clear it up.
But the bottom line is this, that spirits can open the door to other spirits including
affirmative.
So I think that's the thing you want to, that we want to understand now right out of the
shoot here, just fill is talk about a couple of.
And there are others, but we just picked the two things of the scripture where the Bible
into gives us very explicitly, I'm a two scriptures that show how, um, certain things in the soulless
realm can open the door to physical problems us once to give us those problems.
14 30 says a heart at peace gives life to the body, but envy rots the bones.
So when I have people that come in that have got structural problems or have been diagnosed
with bone problems, or you know, Osteo arthritis or osteoporosis, whatever it is, inflammation
in the joints, you know, typically you'll see something like bitterness or nb that is
in there that's associated with that.
So when we pray for their healing, have we call out any spirit of bitterness that would
have brought in that.
And then we play healing over those areas as well.
When we pray, we're just hoping that even as you hear this one scripture, that the light
will go on because sometimes we want to focus on medically and please, please don't think
we're not doctors.
We love medical people.
God loves doctors and nurses.
I mean, Luke was a physician, you know, book of acts, but many things in the middle and
the emotional realm are just, they're not physical things there.
They're spiritual things and so, but even something like osteoporosis, which we people,
when you look at I, well that's a physical problem.
It's not a mental promise and emotional physical as it is, but the.
If you understand the linkage between body, soul and spirit, that there there's a connection
between them that in this scripture would say that spirits of envy and bitterness, if
they're involved in entered into that person that can open the door for that spirit of
sickness and disease, that spirit behind osteoporosis for that, for that bitterness, for that Brittleness
of the bolts to start to.
Absolutely, and that's what we want you to to hear.
Start to hear out of this thing that there's things in our soulless realm.
You know our mind where a memory and emotions reside that can open the door to some of these
sicknesses and diseases.
What's another one?
Proverbs seven, 23.
It says till an Arrow pierces his liver, like a bird darting into a snare, little knowing
it will cost him his life.
If you look at that scripture in context, as talked about an adulterer, a man who was
involved in adultery, he's with another woman.
I'm other than his wife and the research that's been done in the resource of the things that
we've seen and certainly out of pastor Henry's resources that many times that people who
are dealing with the areas, liver, liver, cancer, lot of these liver problems, if you
like liver cancer, very specifically have been involved in fornication, fornication,
adultery, or or, or, or pornography.
They've been involved in perversions many times.
Now you could look and say, well, there's other things.
Can they be generational things?
Potentially, but, but many times when there are another open doors, this is one of the
things that people have been involved in.
That scripture says it right there.
It says, you know, an Arrow pierces his liver, like a bird darting into a snare so that it's
pretty clear and you know, scripture, his life and its word and it's got revelation
for us.
And that's one of them in there and there's some others too, but we wanted to give you
those too is just kind of a highlight in La and basically what pastor Henry has done and
what we've done here is assembled kind of a library or libraries, the right word, but
kind of a database of of sicknesses and diseases and spiritual roots that we see behind those.
He's got his.
He's got those laid out in great detail in this book that we talked about a more excellent
way.
Courage you.
Do you have any interest in that to pick a copy of that book up?
We have it here.
Of course we have an online database because when people come in and they start telling
us about their physical issues, then you, you know, using osteoporosis as an example
in some of these others, we can sit and say, well what are the spiritual roots that are
behind those?
The, you know, they provide like markers for us.
They provide clues, you know, they're just.
This is just a history of many times what we see people's history and you know it's
very common and they manifest in these and physical types of diseases, so that's the.
That's the viewpoint that you should have is as we go on here and there's so many that
we can't even begin to cover them all now.
We're not even going to try.
We're just going to try to do kind of a high level the fly by some very specific sicknesses
and diseases, but before you even do that, I want to talk a moment about some of that
term.
You'll hear a lot in the medical world about syndromes in disorders, right?
The world.
It's the medical jargon and the medical dictionary is full of syndromes and disorders.
In fact, there's new ones being created and invented every day and the the CA.
One of the common themes of syndromes or disorders is the medical people tell you is that the
ideology is unknown.
I love using that word.
I love using the word ideology and I like it.
I will, but I want to explain because it's a medical term and basically what it means
is that the cause is unknown, so if you're diagnosed with a syndrome or disorder, the
medical brains and the medical world does not understand what's causing them and and
I want to submit to you to consider that many times, yeah, many, many times.
The reason they can't figure out the causes because the problem is spiritual.
It's not medical.
It's not hormonal, it's not.
Now I'm not saying the hormones can't be out of balance, but it's like if you get the spirit's
gone and then the then the than the hormones and you know sometimes these things are just
symptoms.
They can come back into balance, but they can be spiritual spirits behind those.
And that's the thing that I want to kind of have an implant here is that the notion that
when you hear the word syndrome or a disorder, think spiritual.
Anytime there is a spiritual cause behind this and that's been our experience and we
want to share some of these with you in the room of syndromes and disorders, but also
not just synonyms in disorder.
Some of the physical things that people are diagnosed with.
Canon fact, um, you know, because if you look at them, sometimes they are syndromes or disorders,
but sometimes you're there just diseases and afflictions to.
And now we use an example of, of breast cancer, you know, so what's one of the things we've,
we've seen with people who have, uh, who have, who have breast cancer is,
and they've got some problems of bitterness or complex with their mother and their sisters
or their mother in law.
So whatever that comes in and the family unit like that, would, that kind of stress.
It can, it can set off things in the body that actually will result in.
We've seen a lot of breast cancer with that.
Yeah.
That's.
And that's just one example.
And you know, there's a, you know, does that mean that there's a spirit behind every cancer
one though?
There's lots of reasons people are smoking caused cancer, some environmental environment
curse, there are, but, but the fact is a lot of the things are spiritual and this is one
element of it that this just something that they've seen, that there's because the breast
is supposed to be in nurturing part of a body and if a person's not nurtured, if there's
conflict and bitterness with her mother's sisters, that that seems to be an open door
many times for, for breast cancer, apart from anything generational here, we're not, we're
just honing in on this thing.
And so that's, that's one example.
And there are so many others, um, endometriosis,
self rejection and self hatred to the body is fighting against itself and it's producing
all this tissue.
So it does have to do with that internal struggle of self hatred
that many times you've seen, this is the spiritual roots that are behind that.
And once again it comes back to the notion that spirits can invite you and other spirits
and, and, and, and it also shows that you know, that there's a linkage between the body
and the soul.
So there's torment in the soul, you know, this is bitterness and, and uh, or self rejection
of hatred, whatever's there that, that, that, that the body will just Kinda, you know, will
feel the effects of that as well.
And in fact, there's probably a good time to mention this whole notion, this whole topic
of autoimmune diseases.
And it once again, the, the notion of autoimmune diseases is the, is the basically where the
body is destroying itself and it's another one where the medical brains don't know why.
Why do these diseases happened?
Why is the body destroying and turning on itself?
And, and I want to submit to you from a spiritual standpoint here, looking at the word of God,
that it seemed very reasonable to me that, that you have spirits in the soul that are
trying to destroy the soul and the body.
Many times we'll just follow in behind that what's happening.
These devils have a plan to kill, steal and destroy their bringing district.
They want to destroy the soul.
They want to kill, steal and destroy.
And so these spirits, whether they're, whether they're in this case, you know, self rejection,
self hatred, that, that, you know, the body will follow in behind that and it will fall.
And so, you know, trying to treat endometriosis as an example may not be the most fruitful
thing in the world unless or until you minister and get free of spirits, of self rejection
and self hatred, for example.
See, that's the point is if you've got these torment in your soul, it's like, let's get
rid of this first.
Let's get the peace of God.
I mean, Jesus is, our sources are strength.
He's our healer.
He's our deliver.
If we got these spirits there, let's get them gone so that the body, the healing can come
alongside of it.
So that's one what?
No, you're mentioning you mentioning these syndromes and disorders and fibromyalgia certainly
is the big buzz word around these days.
FIBROMYALGIA, chronic fatigue.
And with fibromyalgia it's.
You know, it's a fear based.
You said a house divided cannot stand.
So if you've got a spirit of fear or anxiety that's coming in, it's going to have play
havoc on your immune system because you know you're endocrinological system is going to
respond to that.
You're, you're going to start dumping like a lot of you know, chemicals that you would
need in reserve and your adrenals will become fatigued and you'll notice fibromyalgia will,
you know, it'll come up.
But now the, the route to it is they're actually saying, I'm not just fear, but drivenness
and perfectionism usually cause a woman.
It's usually in women was.
Yeah, most of the time.
And I think because we're made differently, our bodies are made differently.
We're not made like a man.
Obviously you can look at us and see that.
And so not to say that we're weaker vessel, but we're, but we were not made to be left
alone without a spiritual headship.
And that is where I think the fibromyalgia can get its root in there.
Would that fear, you see a lot of women are the spiritual head of the family and you,
they've been put in places of having to be maybe the provider or maybe there's a single
woman or you know, there is no husband in the home and there's that lack of spiritual
covering and that is not the way God created us.
I mean we were created to be living in the garden of Eden and you know, we're very far
from that.
So you throw in the wave of independence that swept across this nation with the women and
the way they've taken dominance.
And I'm a woman, hear me roar.
I mean that was my generation, me and Helen Reddy right back in the day.
But that.
But fibromyalgia could be an, an actual symptom of that, of that fear because it's an awkward
place for a woman to be whether we think we're strong and we can roar and we weren't made
to be the head of.
Weren't made to be the head of the household, paying the bills, doing all of that, you know?
So there's a lot of stress that would naturally come on the body because of that, and it has
resulted in things like fibromyalgia.
Now close to that and related to that is another disorder called chronic fatigue and that that
is also a perfection disorder, but that comes in a little bit more uniquely with not fear
being alone, but a fear of not meeting the parental expectation and it comes in almost
always with a controlling parent or in they're in that guilt and fear failure.
So these, these are both fear based, kind of linked.
They are kind of linked.
One of them, you know, the chronic fatigue is more.
The adrenals will, excuse me, the FIBROMYALGIA is more adrenal.
The chronic fatigue is no.
FIBROMYALGIA is, is more the muscle, connective tissue, that sort of thing.
But the chronic fatigue was more of the adrenals and the dumping, but it all is with the fear.
It's all that fear.
You know the, when you, when you, when you are shocked or you were afraid of something
and you're under constant stress, your body grow up in that environment.
You grow up in it, then you then your body comes out of balance because you're not.
You don't know how to move in peace until and you know, one of the scriptures that I
liked the best is in is in first kings five where it says Solomon, and he's talking about
how his father was a man of war and he could not build the temple of God.
Well, when I read that, he said he couldn't build it until the enemies were under his
feet.
Well, when you look at that scripture, really in the spirit realm, we're not building temples
anymore.
We're restoring temples.
Those are our temples were trying to end.
You cannot restore a temple when you have war on every side.
You've got to get those spirits that we're talking about, fear and everything else under
your feet and have peace and in that place of peace, then you'll have that divine order
where your house is not divided and things will come back into alignment, so a lot of
these fear based sicknesses are really a lack of peace and the lack of the right, right,
proper balance of the position of where you need to be in
and while we're on the topic of fear, I'll just add that a lot of the things that people
deal with in the gastrointestinal intestinal realm are fear based with Colitis, irritable
bowel, bowel system, Gerd, gastro.
A separate geo, I think reflects disorder either.
Once again, see the disorder word there.
That means you know, it's just, it's, it's diagnosis a disorder, and so they know things
that can trigger these things, but many times they just don't know what's behind it and
a lot of these are syndromes and your ibs syndrome.
These are fear based things and so somebody's trying to treat that and get medications for
that.
It's like, well, if they're a Christian, come in and say, well, look at what's, let's get
the fear out of your life.
What's.
What's been the open doors for fear?
Go through deliverance first and then you see the physical healing can follow.
Well yeah, and I love doctors, but you know, I worked with a doctor over in, in the clearwater
area and she'll send me her patients because she'll say they'll come in, they'll describe
to me what they're going through and then I'll label them.
You have irritable bowel.
Well that's just the description.
That's exactly what they've told me.
I'm not telling them what they don't already know.
They know they have irritable bowel.
Bob Coming in, my bowels are irritated.
You know you have your well, okay, so now we have a
name for it, but what is the root of it?
Nobody really knows so faithfully.
She'll send people to us to be delivered from spirits of fear so that the medicine that
she gives to alleviate the symptoms will help while they get the actual treatment for the
root cause, which is a better approach because when you got fear, you know what, I'm anxious
and sometimes people don't feel anxious so they're not going to get anxiety medications,
but a lot of times that will be the medical cure where if you're anxious you need an anxiety
medication.
But some people, the fear is so deep, it's internal, it's buried so deep that it doesn't
necessarily manifest in them having panic attacks.
Right, right.
It's just just something that's just so learn to live with it, learn to live with it and
cope with it.
And that fear is there and it's what's opened the door for that, um, that uh, these intestinal
problems in might be the things that you've talked about.
So yeah, fear is a huge one.
I would say it's probably one of the largest, biggest open door are spirits that brings
in other spirits.
We talked a little about self rejection, self hatred, a lot of things like that, or another
one.
What's another one?
Is Arthritis to make one bitterness, bitterness against others, because when we have bitterness
towards ourself, it involves degeneration, bitterness against others, involved, swelling
and inflammation, and also sell.
Patriot can influence an immune reaction as well, so arthritis definitely we always call
out that arthritis and we talked about that before, that a heart at peace gives light
to the body, but envy rots the bones well under a stronghold of jealousy and envy is
a spirit of bitterness, usually related, and so bitterness will cause that arthritis route
and once again the self, anything that's so focused to cause an autoimmune reaction because
focuses on self and soul.
Destroying the self is what the auto immune disorders are.
So we're just giving you some kind of high level examples here.
There's just so many of these.
We couldn't even begin to go through them all, but we want to give you a flavor of these
so hopefully Pique your interest.
So to explore it further.
Rheumatoid arthritis or what we found and what we've seen in witnesses that, uh, the
spiritual root behind art, rheumatoid arthritis is self hatred.
Arthritis can be bitterness towards others, but the rheumatoid arthritis seems to be more
of a focus on self hatred, so getting delivered from that learning to accept and love oneself
self and get rid of guilt and fear and move forward ahead spiritually can help gain is
insecure.
The victory over that.
And once again, if people, people are medications, I understand all that, praise God for medications,
but many of these things to get complete healing.
Wouldn't that be worth exploring?
Arrowhead, arrowhead asthma, another one.
Medical people do not know what's behind asthma, they and, and the understanding, it has nothing
to do with what you breathe.
In fact, it's classified now as is classified as an anxiety disorder.
There's the disorder word again.
Fear will trigger it.
It's a fear, anxiety problems.
So you know, people want to deal with and especially for adults, asthma is a problem.
It's like let's look at the spirit of fear.
Alrighty.
This, what we've done here in this first part is in his God.
Given you kind of an overview of um, spiritual roots of sickness and disease, we want to
conclude this session now and rabbit and then get you set up for part two of this where
we're going to give you some examples, real life examples of people that have come in
with real life problems and physical things that, where we've been able to help them and
we think you'll find that interesting.
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