>> ALL RIGHT.
HEY, WE ARE HERE LIVE FROM
PlayStation'S E3 BOOTH WIT
SPECIAL CONVERSATION BETWE
COUPLE OF GIANTS IN THE VI
GAME INDUSTRY.
THAT WOULD BE HIDEO KOJIMA
FOUNDER OF KOJIMA PRODUCTI
AND HER MEN HULST MANAGING
DIRECTOR OF GUERRILLA GAME.
THAT'S RIGHT.
GOT A BIG CROWD GATHERED A.
I WONDER WHY.
>> OKAY.
SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SEEN
INCREDIBLE NEW TRAILER FORH
STRANDING COME OUT.
IT LOOKED ABSOLUTELY EXCEL.
A GORGEOUS, MYSTERIOUS --
NOT SURE I KNOW EXACTLY WH
HAPPENED IN IT.
WE ARE GOING TO SORT OF PR
OUR WAY THROUGH THAT FOOTA
LITTLE BIT HERE AND TRY TO
FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN LEA.
HERMEN HULST YOU ARE HERE
BECAUSE THERE'S A BIG CONNN
WITH THIS TITLE AND THE VE
ENGINE.
>> SO GLAD TO BE HERE.
>> RYAN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
IT OFF WITH THE FIRST QUES.
>> YOU WANT ME TO START.
>> KOJIMA, I WAS WONDER HOS
TRAILER FOR DEATH STRANDIN
REVEALED AT E3 HOW DOES IT
COMPARE TO THE 'OLE TRAILE
WHAT WAS THE THEME YOU WANO
CONVEY WITH THIS PIECE OF ?
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> I WANTED TO PLAY SOME
GAMEPLAY.
FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN SHOWO
FAR ABOUT THE STORY AND TH
WORLD, PROVIDE SOME ANSWER
THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BET
BEFORE AND ALSO INTRODUCE
HEROINGS OF THE GAME.
>> VERY GOOD.
>> ONE OF THE COOLEST THIN
ABOUT THIS TRAILER IS WE G
REALLY GOOD LOOK AT SAM, Y
HERO IN DEATH STRANDING.
TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT
DID YOU DECIDE ON HAVING A
EVERY DAY HERO THAT DOESN'E
MILITARY TRAINING, ISN'T A
NORMAL SOLDIER WE HAVE SEE
YOUR PAST GAMES?
HE'S AN EVERY MAN AND HE ID
OF IN, LET'S SAY AN EXTREM
SITUATION.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO THE HEROS SO FAR ARE
ELITE, OR GODS OR PRINCES,
SPECIAL PEOPLE.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE SPE
POSITIONS, CO-OPS, MILITAR
PEOPLE.
BUT SAM IS A GUY, A BLUE C
PERSON, SO IT'S A PERSON T
THROUGH HIS PHYSICALITY AN
THROUGH HIS MENTAL PROWESS
SAVES THE WORLD.
>> SO FOR HIS COSTUME, FOR
EQUIPMENT I TRY TO MAKE IT
DIFFERENT WAY FROM HAS BEEE
SO FAR.
>> HERMEN I WANTED TO GET
INTO THIS SPELL.
THE ENGINE IS A CUTTING ED
ENGINE POWERS ZERO DAWN.
I WANTED TO ASK YOU.
IT IS A VERY POWERFUL ENGI.
HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO SOR
THE RICH, VISUAL DETAIL TH
GET IN A GAME LIKE DEATH
STRANDING.
HOW HAVE YOU BEEN COLLABOR?
>> WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTAC
BETWEEN THE STUDIOS.
CLEARLY THE ENGINE IS THE
GUERILLA ENGINE THAT HAS B
UPGRADED TO ENABLE THE MAKF
VERIZONS YEAR DAWN.
WE HAVE DIFFERENT PROCESSET
ARE SUPER COMMANDING AND
DETAILED PULLING THE MOST F
AN ENGINE IN A DIFFERENT W.
WE HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATING
TRAILER, BECAUSE I KNEW TH
SCENES HE WAS WORKING ON
SOMETHING INCREDIBLY
ATMOSPHERIC.
IMENT HAPPY TO SEE THE MOS
BEAUTIFUL DETAILED LANDSCA
AND IN A DEPARTMENT WAY CO
OUT OF THE DECEMA ENGINE.
>> THERE IS A PARALLEL WIT
DEATH STRANDING WITH THE H
LANDSCAPES, WATER FALLS, B
DESERTS AND WE GET A LOT O
LANDSCAPES IN ROAR RISE ZO
WELL.
IS THAT INTERESTING FOR YO
SEE THE ENGINE YOUR TEAM CS
REFLECTED IN TWO DIFFERENT
PALLETS, TWO DIFFERENT ART
STYLES AS WELL.
>> WHAT IS INTERESTING FORS
THEY ARE IN ONE WAY INCRED
SIMILAR, DETAIL ORIENTED,
AMBITIOUS TRYING TO SQUEEZ
MOST OUT OF EVERYTHING.
ON THE OTHER HAND SIDE, TH
GAME IS SO DIFFERENTLY.
HORIZON IS REALISTIC AND
FANTASIZED.
WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH T
TECHNOLOGY IS JUST INCREDI.
>> KOJIMA-SAN, NEXT QUESTI
ABOUT THE TRAILER, WHICH W
AMAZING REVEAL OF TWO OTHE
CHARACTERS THAT ARE COMING
DEATH STRANDING PLAYED BY
LINDSEY WAGNER AND LIA SAD.
WHAT HAS YOUR EXPERIENCE B
WORKING WITH THESE AMAZING
PERFORMERS AND WHAT WAS THD
FOR -- HERMEN IS FLINCHING
THE TRAILER RIGHT NOW.
IT IS INTENSE.
WHAT WAS THE SEED OF THE
COLLABORATION WITH THESE T
AMAZING LEGENDARY PERFORME
CINEMA?
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> BOTH LIA AND LINDSEY AR
ACTRESSES I REALLY LIKE AN
RESPECT A LOT.
ESPECIALLY LINDSEY, SOMEONY
SPECIAL TO ME.
I WANTED TO WORK WITH THEM.
AT FIRST I WASN'T SURE IF
WOULD AGREE TO WORK WITH M.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> IT IS JUST FANTASTIC TH
AGREED TO WORK WITH ME.
LIA AND LINDSEY ARE FANTAS
ACTRESSES.
MORE THAN THAT THEY ARE
FANTASTIC HUMAN BEINGS.
IT IS A JOY TO WORK WITH S
CLEVER AND CHARISMATIC PEO.
IT HAS BEEN CONTRIBUTING A
TO THE PROJECT.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> ALSO, ALONG WITH THEM, N
AND MASO ARE FANTASTIC PEO.
MORE THAN THEM BEING A PAR
WE ARE E CAST, I FEEL LIKE THE E
DOING DEATH STRANDING TOGE.
>> HORIZON WAS ALSO ALWAYSN
FOR AMAZING PERFORMANCES A
FULL CAPTURE SUITE OF
PERFORMANCE, VOICE, SPATIA
ANIMATION, MOVEMENT.
IS THERE PARALLELS BETWEEN
DESIMA ENGINE ENABLES THE
PERFORMANCE THE CAPTURE IN
HORIZON AND WITH WHAT KOJI
DOING IN DEATH STRANDING?
>> IMPERSONALLY INTERESTED
SEEING HOW FAR TO PUSH FOR
INSTANCE THE CINEMATIC PIP
WE HAVE CREATED.
OBVIOUSLY THAT'S AN AREA T
HIDEO AND HIS TEAM HAVE BE
VERY, VERY STRONG IN THE P.
AND THE USE IN THEIR WAY O
TOOL CHAIN AND OUR TECHNOLS
REALLY GOING TO DRIVE FORW
WHAT WE OURSELVES ALSO CAN
WITH IT.
SO THAT'S REALLY INTERESTI.
IF I MAY SAY I AM EXCITED
OF THIS IS JUST GAMEPLAY A
SEE A LOT OF DETAILS IN TH
THAT I HAVE BEEN WANTING T.
YOU SEE NORMAN OR ACTUALLY
NOW KIND OF BOUNCING WHEN
GROUND GETS MUDDY.
KOJIMA, IS THAT ACTUALLY
GAMEPLAY WHEN YOU SEE SAM
HIS BALANCE.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> I CANNOT GO INTO TOO MU
DETAIL.
HE LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE JUST
WALKING.
THERE'S A GAME MECHANIC TH-
>> KEEP HIM STEADY.
>> THAT SHOT, BY THE WAY,
SEEING THE FIGURES IN THE S
UNBELIEVABLE.
SO FANTASTIC.
>> HERMEN, I WANTED TO ASK
THERE'S ANOTHER CONNECTION
DEATH STRANDING AND HORIZOO
DAWN.
IT IS GREAT TECH.
IT IS A NARRATIVE ELEMENT,
PERFORMANCE ELEMENT.
ASHLEY BIRCH WAS HIGHLY
CELEBRATED FOR HER ROLE AS.
THERE IS A GROWING RECOGNI
TITLES LIKE THIS NEED TO H
LIKE REALLY BIG -- NOT
NECESSARILY BIG NAME FOLKS
PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY, VERY
EXPERIENCED IN OUR TRUE SO
CRAFTSMEN IN ACTING.
TELL ME WHAT ATTRACTED YOU
ACTUALLY BIRCH AND WHAT YO
FOR LIKE THE FUTURE OF DIG
PERFORMANCES IN GAMES LIKE?
>>> OO I AGREE WITH YOU TH
ACTING IS INCREASINGLY
IMPORTANT, AND IT HAS TO DH
THE FACT THAT YOU CAN PRES
THE ACTING SO MUCH BETTER N
VIDEO GAMES THAN YOU WERE
TO IN THE PAST.
I DON'T THINK FROM A GUERI
PERSPECTIVE WE ARE NECESSA
AFTER HUGE NAMES TO PUT ON
BOX.
FOR US IT IS MUCH MORE ABOE
TALENT AND QUALITY.
WITH ASHLEY IT WAS JUST RI
OFF THE FIRST MEETINGS, IT
CLEAR SHE WAS ABLE TO BRINS
THE CURIOSITY TO LIFE GU
SHE HAS AND THE VALUE SHE S
TO THE DEPLOYMENT OF THE
NARRATIVE.
SHE ADDS TO IT.
SHE MAKES IT HER OWN.
SHE REALLY HAS BECOME THAT
CHARACTER FOR ME.
WHETHER SHE IS A BIG NAME,
IS A HUGE NAME, BUT EVEN I
WAS A SMALLER NAME, THAT DT
MATTER SO MUCH FOR US.
>> NOT NECESSARILY A MOVIE,
BUT SOMEBODY WHO HAS A HUG
BASE, NONETHELESS, THANKS
LARGELY TO THE GAMES.
>> SHE IS A REAL GAMER, TO.
SHE ACTUALLY HAS A GREAT RT
WITH THE DEVELOPER.
SHE GETS HOW GAMES ARE MAD.
THAT TO US IS JUST AS IMPO
AS LIKE A PAST IN AAA MOVIR
INSTANCE.
>> FOLLOWING THAT THREAD A
LITTLE BIT.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FO
KOJIMA.
WHEN YOU WERE WORKING WITH
LINDSAY, I AM CURIOUS, SHEN
ICONIC PERFORMER, AN AUTHO.
SHE HAS TAUGHT, SHE IS A
PROFESSOR.
WHAT DID SHE BRING TO THIS
PROJECT THAT YOU DIDN'T EX?
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
LINDSA
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
AM NOT SO SURE.
THINGS I DIDN'T EXPECT.
BY HAVING HER WHAT WE ARE
IS CREATING THIS GAME TOGE
CREATING THE PLAN, AND
SOMETIMES, YES, THERE ARE S
THAT GO ACCORDING TO PLAN.
SOME THERE ARE THINGS WE A
ADJUSTING DAY IN AND DAY O
BECAUSE LINDSAY IS THERE.
THIS IS A SCENE WHERE ALL E
CAST MEMBERS WILL MAKE
ADJUSTMENTS BECAUSE OF WHAY
BRING TO THE GAME.
I FEEL LIKE TOGETHER WE AR
LEADING THIS PROJECT IN A
SPECIFIC DIRECTION.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO YOU CAN SEE AT THE E
THE TRAILER, LINDSAY WAGNEE
WAY WE DID IT IS WE SCANNE.
BOTH NORMAN AND MADS ARE L
YOU HAVE TO DE AGE ME, TOO.
YOU COULD SAY THAT IS ALSO
HAD. IMPACT SHE HAS
>> KOJIMA-SAN, I WANTED TO
ABOUT MUSIC SINCE WE ARE TG
ABOUT THE ART FORMS HERE.
MUSIC HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HU
PART OF THE GAMES YOU CREA.
WHAT IS IT ABOUT SILENT PO
MUSIC THAT CONNECTED WITH
PERSONALLY?
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO, JUST BY CHANCE SILEI
E
POETS TURNED OUT TO BE -- .
A FRIEND OF A FRIEND.
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WERE
MUSICIANS.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> AROUND FEBRUARY OR MARCY
RELEASED A NEW ALBUM.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> BECAUSE OF THIS RELATIO,
I WAS GIVEN -- THIS ALBUM
OUT.
I PLAYED IT AND THE FIRST
OF THAT ALBUM IS THE SONG
ARE LISTENING TO RIGHT NOW.
AS SOON AS I HEARD IT I IM
SAM WALKING IN THE MIDDLE
NOWHERE.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO YOU CAN SAY THAT THI
TRAILER IS THERE BECAUSE O
MUSIC.
THIS TRAILER IS THERE BECAF
THIS MUSIC AND BECAUSE OF
DECIMA ENGINE.
>> ALSO -- VERY NICE.
I SAW A TWEET ABOUT
INCORPORATING NORMAN'S TATN
THIS TRAILER.
IS THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU GO
GET IN THERE?
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> THE THING IS NORMAN'S 3
SCAN, FULL BODY SCAN WAS D
WHILE AGO.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO NORMAN HAS -- HE HAS
FAMOUS TATTOO ARTIST ON HI
BODY.
AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WE WANO
RECREATE HIM.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO, THIS YEAR WE HAD SO
PERFORMANCE CAPTURED SESSI
WITH HIM, AND ONE OF THOSE
SESSIONS NORMAN CAME IN HE
GOT A NEW TATTOO, CAN YOU T
ON MY CHARACTER?
SO WE GOT IT IN LAST MINUT.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO ORIGINALLY, THIS CUT
YOU SEE WITH NORMAN, ORIGI
IT WAS THE PHOTO ON THE HA
MAKE A STRONG IMPRESSION.
BUT BECAUSE WE ADDED THAT
TATTOO, I KNOW THAT A LOT
PEOPLE GET MORE FOCUSED ON
TATTOO THAN THE PHOTO ITSE.
>> IT WILL SHOW UP WITH A
TATTOO THE DAY BEFORE --
>> JUST TO KEEP YOU ON YOU
TOES.
>> WERE THERE PARTICULAR
STANDOUTS FOR EITHER OF YO
PlayStation MEDIA.
>> BESIDES DEATH STRANDING.
>> BESIDES DEATH STRANDING.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> THE LAST OF US: PART II.
>> THEY WILL BE HAPPY TO H
THAT.
I THINK THAT'S A FAVORITE .
>> HERMEN ANY STAND OUTS F
YOUR FRONT?
>> CLEARLY THAT GAME BUT A
SUSHIMA THAT WORLD TUS
THAT SOCCER PUNCH IS CREATI
AM EXCITED TO EXPLORE THAT.
>> BEFORE WE LET YOU GO I
CURIOUS TO KNOW IF YOU COU
TALK TO US ABOUT YOUR SPEA
OF THE COLLABORATION BETWE
YOUR TEAM EARLIER.
I KNOW IT'S EARLY IN THE
PROCESS.
DO YOU FEEL LIKE THE DECIMM
HAS LEARNED ANYTHING FROM
COLLABORATION AND STARTED
INCORPORATE THOSE LESSONS E
FUTURE ITERATIONS OF THE E?
>> THERE ARE TONS OF LITTL
LEARNINGS WHEN YOU HAVE A
CUSTOMER LIKE KOJIMA
PRODUCTIONS, BUT I THINK
LARGELY, WHEN YOU COLLABOR
WITH ANOTHER TEAM, WHAT YO
EXPERIENCE IS TECHNOLOGY A
EXPRESSION OF HOW THE TEAMS
GAMES OF THEIR PHILOSOPHIE.
WHAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IT
THE TEAMS COULDN'T BE MORE
DIFFERENT HARDLY, THERE AR
MANY SIMILARITIES.
THAT TO ME IS A GREAT LEAR
THAT THERE'S ANOTHER TEAM
ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE W
THAT SPEAK A DIFFERENT LAN
AND OPERATE IN SUCH A DIFF
CULTURE, THAT STILL HAVE A
SIMILAR MIND SET WHEN IT C
TO MAKING GAMES, AND THAT'
REALLY FANTASTIC TO SEE.
OBVIOUSLY WE ARE GOING TO
THE ENGINE TO REP DATE EDA
HEARD ONLINE IT MAY BE HIS
GAMES.
WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
>> GOING TO LET THE TRANSL
FINISH.
IT'S A GOOD ONE.
BEFORE WE LET KOJIMA GO, I
TO ASK, WE HAVE A HUGE AUD
HERE.
-- WATCHING AUDIENCE HERE AT H E
AT HOME.
IF YOU COULD CONVEY ONE THO
THEM IN THEIR HOPES AND
EXPECTATIONS FOR DEATH
STRANDING, WHAT WOULD IT B?
>> I AM TRYING TO MAKE, CR
NEW GAMING ELEMENTS; I AM G
TO FIND NEW WAYS TO PLAY G.
OF COURSE YOU WILL BE ABLE
PLAY THIS GAME THE STANDAR
OF PLAYING GAMES BUT I AM G
TO CREATE SOMETHING NEW.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO ANOTHER THING IS IN I
HAD NOTHING.
I DIDN'T HAVE AN OFFICE, I
DIDN'T HAVE -- IN 2016, I T
HAVE AN OFFICE, I DIDN'T HN
ENGINE, I DIDN'T HAVE A ST
AROUND ME.
AROUND THE TIME MARK TOOK
A TOUR.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> I WENT TO DIFFERENT PLA
BUT I BARELY HAD ANYTHING
TANGIBLE.
IT WAS MOSTLY IN MY MIND.
DECEMBE
>> AND UNDER THOSE
CIRCUMSTANCES, GARY LATCHEE
US PRETTY MUCH A WHOLE ENG.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> THAT'S SOMETHING UNTHIN.
THAT'S SOMETHING I COULD N
EXPRESS HOW THANKFUL I AM
THAT.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> NONE OF THIS WOULD BE
POSSIBLE WITHOUT THE DECIM
ENGINE.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> AROUND THE SAME TIME IN,
JENERY ALSO MET WITH HIM AA
PROJECT AND WITHOUT HESITA
HE SAID YES.
>> AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE B
GROUND, WELL NOT IN THE SC
BUT SOME SCENES OF THE
TRAILER --
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
-- ONE OF THE TEAMS OF DEA
STRANDING ARE THE ROPES.
[SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>> SO I WANT TO SAY THAT I
LIKE I AM MAKING THE GAME
THESE CONNECTIONS WITH GUE,
WITH NORMAN, WITH THE TEAM
MEMBERS, IT IS BEING BASED
THIS CONNECTION.
I WILL NEVER LET THESE ROP
NOW.
>> I LOVE IT.
I COULD THINK OF NO BETTER
TO END THAT.
>> THAT WAS FANTASTIC.
YEAH.
YES
GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU SO MUR
COMING BY.
I KNOW IT IS A BUSY E3 FOR
EVERYBODY.
THE NEW TRAILER LOOKS
MYSTERIOUS, KOJIMA, AND AM.
HERMEN WE ARE PLEASED WITH
WORK YOU HAVE DONE WITH GUE
WILL YOU AND HORIZON.
>> HAPPY TO BE HERE.
>> HAVE A GREAT E3 EVERYBO.
>> THANKS EVERYBODY.
[APPLAUSE]
>> AND WE ARE COMING BACK
SOME THE LAST OF US: PART .
STAY WITH US.
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