Angela Brown: How do you know when it's time to fire an employee?
That's a great question and we're going to talk about that today.
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Today, the question came from a girl who called in.
She's really frustrated because her main employee, this is the golden employee has become insubordinate
and she's bossing people around and she's fussing with the customers and when the boss
tries to explain to her things that are happening.
She's like, oh, that doesn't apply to me.
She's sassy and she's bossy and she's just kind of taking over the company.
She's kind of hijacking the company away from the boss.
The boss is losing control very quickly, and so she wants to fire this person but she happens
to be the best employee, so she says, what on earth do I do?
All right, there is a myth in the house cleaning business that because you are the boss you
can just hire and fire people whenever you want.
I say it's a myth because a lot of people use that as a strength.
That's not a strength.
That's a weakness.
If you're firing people right and left that says something about you as a leader, not
just your employees.
If you're getting a lot of pushback from an employee where is that coming from?
The reason I ask is because it's coming from somewhere.
People don't just randomly wake up one day and go, today I'm going to be bossy.
I'm going to push people around and I'm going to be a bully, and I'm going to antagonize
my customers and I'm just going to see how much fun that's going to be.
People don't do that. Right?
Usually, when people are antagonistic it's because there's something going on at home,
there's something that's going on within the company.
There's some way that they feel that they've been mistreated or things are unfair.
Or, that they're not being heard.
There are a lot of house cleaners that don't understand the process of leadership.
Running a house cleaning business is so much more than vacuuming floors.
If you're going to have a team of people you need to take some leadership training, because
part of the leadership training is knowing how to read people, and if your employee cries
and they show up and their eyes are all bloodshot and red and they look tired?
That needs to be addressed.
People that are happy and successful and on top of the world they don't show up looking
like that.
As a boss you've got to stop and say, hey, what's going on?
Share with me what's happening.
Because what we don't know is there are grown adults that by their upbringing they've been
taught to put on a happy face.
And so when they show up for work they're like I am so happy, and they're not.
They're being battered and abused at home.
Or, they have zero food on their table at home and they're starving.
There are things that are going on that they're not maybe going to come tell you because you
are their boss.
There are house cleaners that have called out, hey, I can't come into work today.
The boss just flies off the handle.
And they're like, but you said you were going to be here.
I was counting you.
What they didn't find out and they didn't take the time to understand is the house cleaner
is very proud and they're trying to provide for their family,
and they've spent all their money.
They have no gas money to get from their house to your house so they can go on the cleaning jobs.
So they just called out sick, because they don't know how to deal with that scenario.
Okay, that's a very easy to solve problem.
If there are other house cleaners that live in that area we can have somebody swing by
and pick them up this week.
Maybe you can give them an advance from now until Friday?
And I mean it as a one-time thing.
I don't mean create a precedent where you're giving them money in advance every week.
I don't mean that.
I mean help them out of this bind this week so they can keep coming back to work.
Because if putting food on their table is of interest to them and it sounds like it
is they need to come to work today so they have money today so they can come back to
work again, tomorrow. Right?
Rinse and repeat.
But if you don't know what's going on and you can't help the people that you're working
with it becomes a really weird situation.
Where you jump to conclusions as the boss and then you want to fire these people.
Firing an employee that's trying to put food on the table only makes them more angry.
If they're being antagonistic and they're being angry with the other employees and they're
bossing people around?
It's very possible they're getting that pushback from somewhere.
As a survival technique they're pushing back.
They're trying to throw their weight around, like, hey, I'm trying to survive here.
I'm sinking really fast.
Somebody help me.
It could be emotional sinking.
It could be financial sinking.
It could be physical sinking.
I don't know what it is but people don't act like that on a normal basis.
When you hire somebody from day one you need to have a conversation with them and say,
okay, in this particular job here are the roles.
I get to be the boss.
You get to be the employee.
Is that fair?
Okay, great.
That means I am responsible to pay you every week.
And even if that means I don't get paid this week I will guarantee that you get paid every week.
Is that fair?
That might not be fair but that's the agreement that you're making.
Okay, the rules for you is that you show up as an employee and you do the work that you're offered.
Is that fair?
And you keep verifying that you're on the same page.
And so you've already decided this up front.
You've already what their relationship is going to be.
If your employee shows up one day and they've decided that they've become the boss suddenly
and they're pushing people around we need to go back to that conversation.
And say, hey, wait a second.
When you were hired here we had a conversation.
I was going to be the boss and you're going to be the employee.
It looks like you've taken over my job.
If you want all the responsibilities of my company and you want to pay all the bills
maybe I should make you the main person of the company,
but right now you're still the employee.
That has not been offered to you, so, do we still have an agreement?
You can come back to the way things used to be.
If that person cannot be reasoned with then there may be other things you can offer.
There are a lot of corporations that offer their companies and their employees things
like free therapy, or a gym membership.
Ways to clear your head and ways to work out some of that angst.
Because I've got news for you.
It's more expensive for you to go out and find new employees and new customers than
it is to keep the ones that you have.
If you keep the ones that you have and you work through the little issues, a lot of times
they're hiccups.
And a lot of times it's just PMS.
There are people that get really mad and angry for no reason.
Like, for no reason.
It's chemical.
It's biorhythmic.
It's just ... it just happens.
When people come to my company I tell them up front, you're going to have three bad days
a month and you're allowed three bad days a month.
I don't know what that looks like for you but you're allowed three, just ... days.
Right?
If you want to take them, take them all at once.
Take the whole day.
Like one day here.
One day here.
One day here.
Don't take five minutes here and ten minutes here that just makes me crazy.
If you want to stake claim on a day and say, I'm just being miserable today.
Great.
Great.
At least you acknowledged it now we all know and we'll all take a step back and you can
have your bad day today.
That's cool.
That's fine.
And then tomorrow when you come back all the relationships are still intact.
Everybody still gets along.
Nobody got bullied.
Nobody got fired.
It's fine.
You still have to work on the days that you're having a bad day it's just you kind of isolate
yourself until whatever this cloud of junk that's over you kind of drifts off and goes
on its merry way.
Everybody's entitled to bad days.
Everybody.
Customers.
Clients.
Employees.
Bosses.
There is not an employee anywhere at some point that hasn't just hated their boss.
Like, I total hate my boss today.
I wish I could just quit.
And, by the same token, there's not a boss anywhere that hasn't hated the employee sometimes.
Like this employee's driving me crazy.
I wish I could just fire them.
And maybe you can but why?
Why just fire somebody?
And so here's the secret.
As the boss if you've kept all of your paperwork intact and you have an employee file and you've
kept all of your conversations with your employees professional and you've set ground rules and
you have boundaries, you can fire them at any time
if they meet the criteria for being fired.
So you don't have to fire them today.
If you're feeling like, ooh, I'm going to fire somebody today don't.
Don't.
You can fire them tomorrow.
You can fire them next week.
What is going on?
You're a really smart person and there's probably a really good reason for what's happening.
If they can shed some light there are probably things you can do to make a difference in
the vein of leadership.
And as a leader, if you have followers and you have people that want to work for you,
you will be in a situation that is unmatched by most house cleaners, because the house
cleaning industry is a revolving door.
People don't stay loyal with house cleaning companies unless the person that has employed
them really gets them and understands them and is a leader and guides them and motivates
them and all these things.
As a business owner what do you do if you want to fire an employee?
Slow everything down, because there are probably things that you can do as a leader that could
make a huge impact on their life and they, in turn, can make a huge impact on yours.
At the end of everything that's said and done, you end up keeping the same employees and
they end up, in turn, keeping the customers.
This way they're not running off customers and you're not running off employees.
That's my two cents for today.
I would really stop and focus on what's actually happening behind the scenes and where that
pushback is coming from.
All right, until we meet again,
leave the world a cleaner place than when you found it.
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