American singer and musician Vaughn Monroe said,
"Nowadays it's takes more to understand a child
than it did to raise their parents."
Hello and welcome to<i> Case Closed.</i>
There's some truth in that.
Sometimes it's hard to understand kids
and a lot of times it's because they don't talk.
If they're not texting with you, you can't know.
Let's see what today's first case is about.
Please bring out the litigants.
I don't believe in corporal punishment.
You can discipline kids without violence.
I might regret a lot in life,
but never the way I'm raising my daughter.
Alright. Good afternoon.
-Hello. -Hello.
Edwin, you're suing Erica, who I believe is your ex-wife.
-Yes. -Right?
-That's right. -Great.
Tell me why you're suing her
and what you demand in order to settle this case.
I'm suing her for temporary custody of my daughter.
I also want Erica to pay for the medical bills
of a girl from school who our daughter hurt
after Erica uploaded a video on Facebook.
Wait a second, because you're telling me lots of...
Do you want to show me what's in the folder?
You look anxious.
Okay... Let's slow down.
You and Erica aren't together. You're divorced, right?
Yes, we got divorced seven years ago.
-Seven years ago? -Uh-huh.
-And you have a daughter? -We do.
-How old is she? -She's 15.
She's 15.
And you want Erica...
Well, you want temporary custody of the child.
Meaning that you don't want permanent custody.
And second, you want her to pay some medical bills
for which your daughter is responsible.
Yes.
-Because she hurt someone else? -Yes.
You want her to pay those bills?
Yes.
And this has something to do
with a video Erica uploaded on Facebook?
Yes, on our daughter's Facebook.
Let me see the medical bills.
Okay, $2,000 in medical bills.
What about the video? Did you bring it?
I brought the video so you can see it.
Let's take a look.
Let's see, because I still don't know what's going on.
I have some of the details, but I'm missing some things.
Let's take a look.
<i> You're done bullying people!</i>
<i> -Let me go!</i> <i> -I won't.</i>
<i> I hate you!</i>
Look at how she's treating my daughter.
<i> I'll give you good reason</i> <i> to hate me!</i>
<i> You're going to see</i> <i> how it feels!</i>
Do you think that's any way to treat your child?
There's an explanation.
<i> Let me go!</i>
<i> I won't let you go!</i>
It's insulting that she would treat my daughter like that.
It hurts me.
It hurts me too, ma'am.
<i> Hate me now!</i>
<i> No!</i>
Alright...
<i> Do you like this?</i> <i> Do you enjoy it?</i>
<i> Because this is what</i> <i> you're doing to people!</i>
<i> Hate me all you want,</i> <i> but this is over!</i>
<i> You are done!</i>
What's going on here?
Because no mother grabs a daughter by her hair,
cuts it off and then uploads it on social media.
There's more to this incident and you're not telling me.
Well, I explained her side of the story.
Now, I'll tell you about our daughter.
She's been through a lot. She's always had weight issues.
She's been bullied in school because of it.
She's gotten in a lot of trouble
and she's suffered a lot because other kids pick on her.
They make fun of her and say she can't do certain things.
They say she's too fat, that she can't dress properly,
that she can't even walk, that guys don't like her,
and that's she'll never find a boyfriend.
It's had a negative effect on my daughter.
Our divorce also had a negative effect on her.
However, she's a child. She's a teenager.
She's barely 15. She's growing up.
I don't think that's a good way to discipline a child.
But why was she being disciplined?
Because she's bullied?
The thing is that...
This man is driving me insane. He's like a politician.
He's talking a lot, but not really saying anything.
There was an incident with a girl at school.
She attacked the other girl.
Your daughter was the attacker?
Yes, she attacked the other girl.
Your daughter hurt a girl to the extent
of $2,000 in medical bills?
Yes.
If she hadn't uploaded that video on social media,
no one would've found out what's going on with her.
That's why the other girl bullied her
and it's all her fault.
A fellow student said some mean things to her
and she attacked her.
The girl had a concussion
and had to spend $2,000 in hospital bills.
And you're telling me it's Erica's fault?
Yes, it's her fault because...
This is unbelievable.
There are other ways to deal with these issues...
So you want temporary custody of your daughter?
-Yes. -For how long?
Well...
And why?
Well, I don't believe
it's fair for her to spend all her time with me,
because she should also spend time with her mother.
We should both spend time with her.
I'm a truck driver.
I'm on the road most of the time and I don't have time...
Who's going to watch her when you're working?
That's what I say.
Sir, you're not making any sense.
That day I was disciplining her
because she had done the exact same thing to another student.
She cut the other girl's hair?
She did that and she dragged her all over the classroom.
So you gave her a taste of her own medicine?
Yes, and it pains me to have to do that.
Doesn't he know that?
He's always working.
I had to do something because things had gone too far.
The school calls me constantly.
She's had to change schools twice these past two years.
And her behavior hasn't changed?
Yes, and I'm the one who has to go to school and deal with it,
because he's never around, so he doesn't know everything.
-He's never there. -I'm working.
Erica, have your daughter seen a psychologist?
She has.
Has she seen a behavioral therapist?
Yes, everything.
Has she been on a diet?
Yes, but she'll still eat a lot when she gets anxious.
So she eats a lot. That's why she's overweight.
What do the psychologists say?
They just say she needs to keep going to therapy,
but I haven't seen any improvement.
She's been to therapy, camp, and youth retreats.
Nothing's worked.
-She's still aggressive. -Yes, she is.
-So she's the bully? -Sadly.
Yes, but she...
How's her relationship with you?
Well, she'd never disrespected me before.
As in any normal mother-daughter relationship,
we'd had some verbal altercations.
However, that day I yelled at her.
I yelled at her for having cut off that other girl's hair
and for attacking her.
I was yelling at her and that day...
Daniela had never raised her hand against me,
but that day she did.
She did?
That day, when I was yelling at her for her behavior,
which her father always wants to justify,
I demanded an explanation and she turned her back on me.
When I yelled her for that, Daniela reacted violently.
She grabbed me and she pushed me to the floor.
When I saw her like that... I'd never seen her so upset.
That's scary.
I was very scared.
That's when I got up and I grabbed her by her hair
and I did to her what you just saw.
You gave her a taste of her own medicine so she'd learn.
Sadly.
But she's not learning.
No, not at all.
I'd like to meet Daniela,
but I'd like her to come in with Dr. Madeline Hernandez
and Mery Cruz, who's a behavioral analyst.
-Good afternoon. -Hello.
Were you able to talk to her?
What's going on with you?
I'll explain what's going on.
My mother's always criticizing me.
I'm always the bad guy.
She loves standing up for other people,
but she never puts herself in my shoes.
Okay, and what would that do?
I used to be bullied.
People said I was fat and ugly.
They were very hostile.
Until I decided that I was going to be the one who'd...
Who'd bully them.
I wouldn't let them bully me.
It's very easy for her to say I'm the bad guy,
but she's not the one getting bullied.
She'll only listen to their side of the story.
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
When we return, this is what I
Hello, my name is Isis.
Isis. What about you?
Yadeisis.
Mother and daughter?
Yes, this is my daughter Yadeisis.
She went to school with Daniela.
I brought her so she can tell you what Daniela did to her.
Daniela's the school bully.
This isn't the first time she's gotten in trouble.
I believe something has to be done.
Alright, what happened, Yadeisis?
Hello.
Daniela and I were really good friends
until a guy gave me a bracelet
and asked me to be his girlfriend.
I said no, because I don't want a boyfriend,
but she got jealous because she liked him.
But it wasn't my fault. I said no.
We even had a field trip and I didn't go,
because I was afraid she'd attack me.
The next day she insulted me in the classroom
after I told her I didn't want any trouble.
She attacked me and I told her to stop.
She cut my hair and I lost consciousness.
You're the girl whose hair she cut off?
Yes.
My hair was very long, but she cut it off.
I lost consciousness.
I didn't even feel her fists anymore.
Where were the teachers?
The teacher had called in sick.
Wasn't there anyone else there?
No, and her friends recorded the whole thing
and uploaded it on social media.
She's a monster. People are afraid of her.
No one wants to be near her.
She's the school bully.
My God.
What do you need to stop this?
This type of behavior will only get you more enemies.
It makes you fat, less likable, hateful, and more horrifying.
Who'd want to hang out with you?
What do you need to love yourself just the way you are?
What do you need to develop important human qualities
such as generosity, intelligence, and productivity?
We can't all be Cindy Crawford or Madonna or...
I know that...
Some people are born pretty and others are born ugly.
Some are born skinny and others are born fat.
You need to learn to work with what God gave you.
So I have to be understanding, but no one understands me.
That's why I want to be with my dad...
Your father doesn't understand you.
Your father wants to fix a problem this big
with a solution this small.
He wants to bury his head in the sand
and you just want the easy way out.
Alright, let's talk.
What is your impression of her, Doctor?
Alright, first of all, we have to talk about the family.
There's a lack of communication between the parents.
Yes, they're giving her a choice.
Yes, Daniela has developed manipulative behavior.
I believe she's developed a behavioral disorder
to the degree that she's become the bully.
When kids who've been bullied can't find a way out,
they become very aggressive in order to defend themselves.
However, deep down they're very insecure.
In Daniela's case, if her mother tries to discipline her
by giving her a taste of her own medicine,
that'll only make things worse,
because she's suddenly the victim again.
But the mother must be very frustrated.
Obviously...
Because she's tried a lot of things and nothing's worked
so now it's an eye for an eye.
It's hard to encourage change when she's going to therapy,
but her mother's constantly criticizing and judging her.
The treatment works, but she also needs a support system.
That's very important.
What would you suggest?
How long will it take and what do they have to do?
Well, there's a history of bullying here
and that explains her behavior.
However, she's still incurring in that behavior
and that's because it's being reinforced.
Daniela's getting something out of behaving that way
because it's continuous and it's escalating.
Now, as parents, we can't justify her actions,
which is what her father's doing.
He feels sorry for her. We can't go that far.
But as Dr. Hernandez says, we can't punish her
by giving her a taste of her own medicine
because we're basically reinforcing the behavior.
So what do they need to do?
First, there has to be a plan.
They need to work with Daniela
so she can find adequate ways of escaping,
adequate ways of getting attention,
and of asking for what she feels she needs.
However, it has to be consistent.
The parents need to be in agreement, right?
Yes.
As long as they disagree,
she'll keep manipulating her way...
The parents need to be involved in her treatment.
Part of the treatment
is that the parents have to establish parameters.
Do you think it's wise to give temporary custody
to a father who's never there because he's always working?
It's like he wants her, but not really.
It's like a game of hot potato.
He only wants her for a short while.
I don't think we can take sides here.
All three of them need to work together.
The school also needs to be involved,
because this is happening at school.
We need to know how the school administration is responding
and how the other students are responding.
This will require teamwork.
They also need to think about what they'll do
when she incurs in such behavior.
Right now she's being punished, but that's not working.
They need a system to reinforce these things,
but it has to be consistent, which is an issue here.
There's no consistency and that's common in these cases.
That's why her behavioral issues are getting worse.
She knows this and...
I don't think giving her father custody will do anything.
I wouldn't recommend it...
Besides, he's won't even be there for her.
I think that if you really care about this,
then you need to get involved in your daughter's treatment.
You need to be involved in a positive way
and you need to work together.
You can't blame her for everything.
I think she's gone to extremes because she's desperate.
She's basically on her own.
Now, listen to me.
You're 15 years old,
but the more you behave this way,
the more you entice people to tell you
the things you don't want them to tell you.
-Do you understand? -Yes.
Your behavior...
Come here.
Look, there aren't ugly people or pretty people in the world.
We make ourselves pretty or ugly with our behavior,
with the way we project ourselves to the outside world.
You're growing up and the older you get,
the more people judge you.
If you keep this up, you'll end up alone.
No one will want to be with you,
because everyone will be afraid of you.
So no matter how much your parents want to help,
no matter how much they feel sorry for you,
and no matter how much they sacrifice for you,
in the end, this is in your hands.
The day you change your behavior,
you'll attract people who'll love you
and who'll want to be by your side.
It's hard.
It is, but it's in your hands. It's all on you.
You need to change your attitude.
When someone calls you fat, you tell them,
"Sure, but I have my charms."
You need to learn how to turn things around.
I can do that, but if every time I come home
my mother's going to admonish me...
Your mother can't be proud of you for behaving this way.
It just doesn't make sense.
If your mother keeps getting calls from school
and they tell her that you're fighting and hurting people,
do you expect her to congratulate you when get home?
Really? It's impossible.
It's in your hands.
Apologize to your parents. Start there.
It's a start.
Apologize to them and to your friend,
who you hurt because you were jealous.
You hurt your best friend because you were jealous.
Start there.
Start by apologizing, by showing remorse,
and by modifying your behavior.
I deny you your claim. It's final. Case closed!
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