This is Deliverance Ministry.FM videocast one
Hello everyone welcome to the very first episode of Deliverance Ministry.FM where
we give you proven insights above the demonic realm and deliverance ministry
so you can wage spiritual warfare more effectively
it's dr. Don ibbitson and I'm here with my co-host dr. Phyllis Tarbox and today
we want to take a look at ungodly soul ties and why they are open doors for
demonic torment this is our very first session I just want to start with that
we've been looking forward to this for some time we've been I was looking at
the numbers Phyllis between you and I we've been in deliverance ministry and
counseling for over 25 years and I'm gonna get into all the specifics it's a
long time we've helped a minute ministry to a lot of people and that's what we
want to share in these podcast series just some of our insights things we've
learned and then about deliverance ministry and we just hope that the folks
are going to enjoy it and and in this you know this session or as I mentioned
we're gonna focus on ungodly bodies or soul ties with people and why and how
that's an open door for demonic torment I'm excited about this session because I
see it as a very common problem for people and I know we're gonna have some
great information to share with them that's right now I'd like to encourage
you before we start just to stay tuned until the very end because I want to
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before we get yes it's good it's good it's worth waiting for yeah now once
again I think we need to lay some groundwork before we get in to the
discussion about soul ties and open doors for demonic torment so it's
probably a good place to start is what we mean by an open door for demonic
torment how do we explain that to people what's illegal right Don I mean it's
somewhere the enemy uses as an open gateway or an entryway to bring someone
under the bondage of torment you know the enemy knows the Bible he knows how
to read it and he knows how to exact it against the saints and when we break
some of those laws by sinning then he has that legal right to come in and
exact torment over people so and we get this from people they have the mindset
that spirits can just jump on a person maybe they've seen too many Hollywood
movies and so what you're saying is they do need an open door spirits just can't
jump on no they can't catch oh no you can't
catch them praise God for that well and that's a good thing and we're
you know and some of the other series that we're gonna do we're gonna talk
about some of the other open doors some of the biggest open doors that people
have or our generational curses that's the biggest one really I think that's
one of the biggest what are some of the others
now cults in certainly you know people get involved in the divination and that
sort of thing opens up a big door abuse sexual sin certainly trauma that's
happened to a person's life and you know work curses those are gigantic because
they they follow people around they believe those curses they come into
agreement with them and the next thing you know those things are really
happening over their lives well there are a bunch of them and that's Moses a
witness in this podcast we're going to talk about one of them and some of the
others right talk to learn some of the other open doors but I think it's
important to emphasize that you can't catch a demon from someone they just
cannot jump on right and I think this is an important thing just to touch on as
well because a lot of Christians not necessarily agree with the Ministry of
deliverance they don't think it's necessary we don't want to go into this
too much time today because we don't have the time but people get asked and
you get asked Phyllis when you a person gets saved gets born-again come to Jesus
don't demons have to leave them when they get saved now I think that's a big
misconception that the the body of Christ has that all of the sudden
they're saved sanctified and then they're immediately set free and you
know deliver it you know when you when you're saved sometimes there is an
element of that you know we've seen people that have been delivered from
Allah at the altar I've seen a plain house but it's not like we're all of a
sudden and perfect and made whole I mean I think the word makes it pretty clear
it's you know we move with him from glory to glory from place to place and
we're not going to be perfect until we see him works in process I don't think
there's anything hidden about just all just automatically being set free well
exactly and you know I just say the big indicator is you don't see it a lot of
times people do still struggle on for years that have been issues you know
they're born again and saved them so we just want to be clear obviously we
believe in deliverance ministry we do it and when the Christians can be oppressed
by demonic spirits not possessed and as I say we'll get into that in more detail
on some other podcast I think it's important to emphasize
too though that we verse we're so committed to the notion of deliverance
for Christians that we only pray deliverance for believers that's right
yeah I would not we would not pray deliverance for someone who was
possessed because that would be more like exorcism and that's not our that's
not our field of influence yeah we pray for the believers absolutely exactly
because the idea is if you're filled with the Holy Spirit you belong to
Christ your God possessed you got the Holy Spirit in you then you then you can
stay free and do some things to stay free afterwards and and and our keynote
scriptures if you look on our website or and we certainly talk about it all the
time is mark 16:17 that's one of the signs jesus said to follow believers is
to drive out demons that's a tiny thing yeah right these signs will follow those
that believe in my name exactly exactly if there's we're preach
and heal and all the other things lay hands on the sick but deliverance
ministry is part of the ministry so as I say we will expand on that more in some
other podcast but today we want to focus and really key in on the notion of how
and why ungodly soul ties or open doors for demonic torment so fellas probably
the most fundamental question that people might have is what exactly is a
soul tie what's a bonding it's an ungodly ache it's a bonding it's a it's
a be a godly bonding through love right or it can be an ungodly bonding through
you know ungodly influence control or sexual sin so there's two hearts so how
many types of soul ties are there actual sin only there's two there's a godly
soul tie based on love and an ungodly soul tie they can be based on sexual sin
or control whatever what the scripture have to say what are other examples that
these bondings let's start with the goal the godly ones based on loved and that's
that's the definition we use well a good godly bonding would be I think Jonathan
and David I mean even in the word it says their hearts were knitted together
in love and so there there's a picture of a good bonding right right right and
I think that's an important point to make is when we talk about the soul you
know it word that we're a three-part being right by soul one spirit right we
get saved we get born again we get a new spirit man we don't get a new body
but nice nice many people line up so yes our new body doesn't know some people do
get healing itself in we don't get a new soul that's how and why many people
don't instantly for the most part get transformed they don't get delivered
necessarily anger addictions depression pornography whatever right that doesn't
automatically necessary happen because we don't get a new soul but we do get is
a new spirit right and our soul man is where our mind remember your emotions
are right we don't get a new childhood we don't get a new makeover there's no
extreme breakthrough I'm sorry we still have those soulless tissues right
exactly man so the bondings so just to clarify that the soul the part of us is
not born again where our mind memory or emotions are that that godly soul ties
organi mornings were based upon love right now you mentioned you mentioned a
good man Jonathan David is there any other that pop out off the top of your
head about godly soul ties in the Bible well you hit that one Jacob and Benjamin
Wow Jacob well that's one yeah I that's one that pops to mind I'm thinking about
Jacob and Benjamin it says you know he loved all his sons but Benjamin was
clearly one of his he says his life was closely bound up and so once again the
bond line godly soul ties are good and well examples that we see in people
because they apply today one of them what kind of a highest I think order of
godly soul tie he is between a husband and wife yeah talks about in Scripture
that men no longer two but one flesh what are some other ones examples
parents with children I mean I've got children I've got good godly bondings
with my daughter's I mean I love my daughters they love me that's all based
on good good I have great friends and I've had since I was very young and
those are all based on good love and so our hearts are knitted together and
purpose and soul and I think those are good godly bondings and and we don't
want to mess with those we encourage those we love the Bible talks about that
and that's of godly the soul ties are godly bodies and so that's one type and
and that's and that's an important part of our walk with the Lord and so we
mentioned there's two types we touched on godly soul ties being one the second
type of salt is what we would call an ungodly soul
tie so how do we explain and I know people do this differently but I want to
share with you in general in our in our Center here how we explain ungodly soul
ties what what are they and if they listen and and maybe just as importantly
how do they get established well I think ungodly soul ties can certainly start
with control manipulation dominance anything that would influence someone to
feel something that wasn't godly so say you know you can have a good godly
relationship with a husband and wife but you can have an ungodly soul tie in that
relationship with that husband and wife as well you have a godly soul time with
the same person yeah because you could have a parson that's based on love and
then you can have this other portion that's based on control dominance could
make you feel insecure inadequate any any soul tie that would make you feel
ashamed or guilty afraid angry I mean those are people that those are things
that would cause an ungodly portion to that soul time well how does that work I
mean is there a scripture to support the idea that that these ungodly from the
soul ties based upon ungodly control to can't can be it can be problems for our
soul well my favorite one I think is proverbs 22 and it goes through verses
24 and 25 but it says do not make friends with a hot-tempered person do
not associate with one easily angered or you'll learn their ways and get yourself
and snared and in the King James Version it says your soul will be ensnared so I
think that's pretty clear and snared yeah that's more than just just you know
and snare tends like you're trapped like you're in a bondage right that's what it
means you a snare the enemy exactly so ungodly control somebody whose uses
guilt or fear manipulation to do things and that can be an ungodly soul tie have
you have you got so that's an open door that that would be what about you know
any story or any encounters that you can relate where you have seen that kind of
ungodly control be an open door for demonic torment yeah I think children
that are bullied on you know that's a that's a primary lots of studies going
on today about children that are bullied how they can
at some point snap and become the bullier and we had a little boy that
came in who is suffering from a spirit of murder and violence and you knows
discerned as one of the ungodly soul ties that we broke the mother broke was
a little boy that bullied him on the playground while we knew this little boy
suffered with a spirit of murder and violence you know that me was he was
actually threatening to kill his two-year-old brother and his grandfather
with a knife Wow that's not normal behavior from them no because one minute
he was a little prayer we're in the next minute it would just switch into this
angry bullying murderous kind of a spirit so when we pray for him and we
called out that spirit of murder and violence it was interesting he started
choking immediately now that was not anything I explained to him prior you
know I don't want to scare the little guy we just kept it pretty simple but he
starts choking when we prayed for him and then after we you know finished the
deliverance and we called out that spirit of murder violence I asked the
mom if she knew where it came from and the first thing she said to me was you
broke that soul tie and I said who was it and she said he was choked on the
playground by that little bully Wow and so it went the way came with choking of
course long story short is he's free as a bird now from that murderous spirit
but it had that soul ty had to be broken in order for that thing to go he had
actually had choke marks on his neck when he came home from school that day
so she knew and and you know because of this scripture we both agreed that it
probably came in with that because over time what that little boy did was out of
fear he started to act like that older bully he started to pick up his
ways and his soul got incident like that scripture talks about exactly like that
Scripture yeah yeah okay so that was that was the
open door he started to behave he was under lately ungodly control obviously
was afraid of this he was afraid of him yeah and so somehow that was an open
door for that same kind of spirit right and anger tip to enter into him and he
ended up as you say it making things difficult for his for his little brother
in this man he got set free yeah that's a wonderful story for kids well what
about if you seen it in the similar to deal with adults
yeah I actually have godly control has been interesting one is I think with the
spirit of addiction I had this one young man he came through I came through one
of our seminars right and he had a pot smoking addiction and he wasn't unable
to get free from its even with it even with our deliverance seminary
didn't didn't get free so he came back right so he came back into the office
and he said I'm still smoking pot I can't seem to get free so yeah the first
question I asked him was when you broke soul ties did you remember to break the
soul ties with the person who gave you drugs your dealers your pot smoking
friends did you break all those those party friends and he looked at me anyone
gosh no I forgot so I kind of left him alone in the office for a little while
right and he I gave him his list he went through it he broke the soul ties again
and then I came back in was a short session I came back in and found up that
strong men of bondage called out the spirit of addiction to pot and that
thing left and you know I have gotten notes from him he's made it through all
of his birthday celebrations he did everything he has never had never had
the desire to smoke again so he got free and it was all locked up with those soul
ties that he never broke that yeah that's amazing we've seen I've seen that
as well a similar type of deal within seen within other drugs in addicts but
also with pot were a fella he got free from a spirit of addiction for a short
season but he would not stay away from the guy who good friend of his who was a
fellow pot smoker right and so there was that ungodly control that this guy had
over him and he never did get free really until he until he broke down
ungodly soul tie and I stayed away from that guy so right that's an issue
certainly people dealing addictions we've seen it as well I think in the
realm of pornography yeah people bound up and perversions I'm really any kind
but certainly pornography who got you into it who with who did you do it with
right those kind of people because the souls are linked together and and I
think you know the idea the way to visualize it is that the way that the
demonic spirits that are tormenting a person our resident typically in a
person so grant so if the souls are linked or tied together in an ungodly
way then you can people use the word transference of spirits I mean we I
personally don't like that term i but i but i get the concept it's basically
when we have Gavi bonding with somebody we can get
spirits person spirits and or and/or and/or other spirits as well you know
analogy is like a to to tanks with a pipe between them you know you open the
valve and whatever's in one can flow into the other alleys and so that's
where the concept is important these ungodly bindings with people so there's
one instance where the where there is because of ungodly control right with
another person but there's another type of ungodly soul tie that people can have
and that's in the realm of sexual sin right right and I think that's found in
first Corinthians 6:16 and to kind of walk around that a little bit it says
it's Paul speaking and he says you know don't you know you're the temple of the
Holy Spirit you do not want to sin against your flesh and let defilement
into that temple and he says don't sleep with a prostitute or harlot because
there's a bonding of the flesh under the act of sexual intercourse that you come
together as one and outside of a covenant a marriage that that get that
coming together and that bonding is ungodly right it is yes so it's just
like in the natural if you could like you had mentioned that with the
transference of the spirits if you could catch an STD through sexual sin kind of
in the natural that's the same sort of picture with an ungodly soul tie with
sexual sin yeah and the supernatural those spirits can go back and forth and
so if you slept with someone who had like manic depression or anger I mean
there's a good chance that you may pick those demons up right and you've seen
that happen yeah you hadn't have a client one time who who had that issue
in his life I had a client that slept with a prostitute
yeah and that that really opened him up to a lot of fear I mean he was cornered
when he came in this is a powerful man so it was almost like the complete
walking out of that scripture that I got to see that but yes he did and so but
lots of times people will have ungodly soul ties I mean you know even in the
secular world they call it soul mates right now yes my soul mate yeah I hear a
lot of women say that all the time like I I he's my soul mate and I just can't
get free from him I still feel like I'm addicted to him I can't stop thinking
about him you know and that's that soul tie because of that sin that sexual sin
that has to be broken so absolutely all right well and I think
just just to summarize this to be clear about what we mean when we talk about
the sexual sin because of ungodly soul ties that that the Paul talks about the
two becoming one flesh by scripture you mentioned first right in 616 and flesh
is certainly involves the soulless realm and we believe it you know it also
incorporates the flesh as you mentioned a sexual act the bodies are joined but
the souls are joined in flesh and so that's one way people can pick up the
disappearance from another person and and we understand God forgives us of our
sin but those ungodly bondings can still be there in spirits because of that
sexual sin could still be active in tormenting a person right now they don't
even I like the point that you just made about flesh in the Bible cuz in 1st
Corinthians 6:16 he's talking about the body but in Romans 6 7 and 8 Paul is
always talking about I'm fighting my flesh to keep doing the things I don't
want to do anyway and enough that reference he's talking about flesh as
his soul so the Bible does say Flash's body flesh is soul and when they're
united as one there can be that going back and forth so it makes it real clear
well that and that's what we want to do we're trying to you know is make these
concepts clear as we can and in this podcast here and and basically what we
want people understand you to understand is that the open doors for demonic
torment through ungodly soul ties primarily come out in two major ways one
is through ungodly or sorry want people who have ungodly control over you and
the other one is through sexual sin and right and and so that's that's probably
what we want to leave you with there on that now the obvious question is okay I
have these ungodly soul ties and and you know of course preparing people for
deliverance ministry we we prepare people for this in terms of breaking
these but in general what's the process that we use fellows to to really break
ungodly soul ties with somebody well Don that's the good part
it's really simple I mean all we have to do is get them to acknowledge those
ungodly soul ties and then break them and sever them by speaking it loud out
loud saying I break and sever every ungodly soul tie with and then they
speak that person's name out loud what's that simply just yesterday oh hey
so what does that do when you did when we do that would it's ever something in
the spirit realm with that person you know it cuts that disconnect it's like
taking you off the table for food for the demonic realm so you know III think
that it is simple you know and God said you know even accepting Jesus Christ was
that simple was you had to just speak it out with your whole heart and I think
that's the part you want to be free and you declare that broken okay so we
declare that we sever this relationship now it doesn't matter if the person is
dead now we're alive or not or not or not part of the life anymore does that
matter no I think if these are bondings from the past and they've still got
torment attached to them then you're gonna have to sever them and break them
doesn't matter if the person's dead I mean that soul tie was established then
it's in the spirit so you have to remember that so we want to cancel the
assignment of the demons cuz they don't go anywhere once it's established okay
so when you break those we've taken away that spirits legal right to be there
that's right because of any ungodly bonding with that person with rangoli
controller sexual okay so okay so that's done a person we you know if it's a
person's alive there's a determination they want to keep them broken yeah we
established those so that leads to the next question if so you've got somebody
in your life that you break them ungodly soul tie with maybe it's your spouse
maybe it's a child maybe it's a friend or maybe it's somebody how what's what
do we tell people when you tell people about okay we've broken this ungodly
soul tie how do you keep from reestablishing and it's reestablishing
rather an ungodly soul tie with that person well I know you're the boundary
you're the great teacher on boundary song I love those proper boundaries that
person you don't want to happen you don't want to allow your mother to ovary
mesh into your life you don't want to allow ungodly control so you have to
learn how to walk in love and how to establish those those those boundaries
where you're gonna you know you're not just being walked on and dominated by
this stuff anymore and then you know you're in God and only spirit is so
faithful with that he's gonna walk you out and how to establish that in love
because you don't want to do it any more it might involve staying away from
certain people some people it's gonna you're gonna
certainly if they were toxic friends or people that brought in bad influence
you're gonna want to stay away from them and then you know that always makes me
think of social media which I think that's a big open door for a lot of
people you know if you've had on godly contact with some ex-boyfriends somebody
who has talked badly about - that's a girlfriend you know I think Facebook
leaves this kind of like voyeuristic thing going on or this observer thing
where you can really watch and kind of lurk around people you know you want a
break you want to get them out of your Facebook page you want to unfriend I'm
sorry you know but this is for your health you want to get them out of your
cell phone you want to get them out of your email contact you don't want to be
tempted to see what they're doing or if they're gonna respond to any it's like I
always acknowledge it like this it's like if somebody wants to quit smoking
they don't leave an ashtray with a lit cigarette on their desk right exactly
well you mentioned social media I mean it's well-established whatever good it
is done it's a lot of people find old boyfriends girlfriends from your past
and those bondings in the past and the demonic Kingdom works through that blood
and a lot of marriages go sideways and downhill because of that so yeah but it
is the boundary thing yeah and you mentioned their whole notion of
boundaries I mean we in our counseling center here we do a lot of help people
establish boundaries and keep them going forward and always like to reference a
book it's well known by Cloudant Townsend yes called boundaries simple
enough never heard of it it's worth picking it up because it will walk you
through the process and the teachings on boundaries and how to establish if I
maintain a morning when to say yes it says and how to take now to say no and
that's I think that's the bottom line we want you people to understand is that
you break him and Gavi soul tie with somebody Gus you've got to keep that and
got the soil type broken and not let that ungodly soul tie
get re-established because you can reopen the door oh yeah for ya ex
torment in a person's life and have you seen that happen where somebody has
broken on God he's okay and then re-established it again with somebody
and then an open door well yes I think when you see women in ministry there are
women that come in for ministry here in the office
you know if there's been an adulterous affair or something like that
a lot of times there's a bit of waffling before that sole tie is completely
broken and you know that's why we're tending it we're careful to wait until
it's the right time before we pray deliverance so that - because they can
you can break an ungodly soul tie every night I mean if you've got an ungodly
soul tie that reestablishes through whether it's anger or guilt or shame you
know you have the ability to break that every night it's not once and oh no it's
connected again and sunk I mean we have the spiritual authority to break it if
we need to break it more than once right exactly and hopefully if you're doing
that then making a new commitment God's mercy right every day to keep right and
you'll get that yeah you get that traction Yeah right hopefully and walk
that out but Natalie okay well I you hit on something because I think as you know
as we as we were wind down and conclude this session on our godly soul ties I
want to share we eats like this year what we consider to really be what I
would call a key takeaway there's just one thing you're gonna remember or two
things to remember from these from this teaching what would it be and I'll start
I I'd this whole concept of ungodly soul ties is so important I believe that if
some if I perceive that somebody has an ungodly soul tie that they're not
willing to break or keep broken right I I many times will tell them and go to
them and say look at I you're not ready for deliverance I'm not willing to pray
deliverance for you because I don't really have really comfortable that you
will be able to stay free because there's not a commitment there to keep
that ungodly soul tie broken and I'm and that's a concern and sometimes you can
be in that marriage situation sometimes it can be a couple and they may be
having an ungodly soul type with maybe one of these spouses parents controlling
mother or father in-law so controlling that child look at taking that person
through deliverance can be damaging yeah that's so that's important it is
important it's extremely important from a deliverance ministry standpoint to a
person be committed to breaking those ungodly soul ties and and be committed
to keeping them broken so that's that's something I really would like people to
hear and and take away from this what about you fellows or you know one or two
things that you really would like to emphasize it on because I think with
women you know I think that that they have this notion that would then
ungodly soul tie it's a forever thing because of the sexual sin or anything
from their youth and I think that's a great thing that they need to be able to
take away you can be free from lugging you know that spiritual backpack around
with you for the rest of your life I'm God has a way to break these soul ties
and so that people can be free so they're not you know considered damaged
goods I mean too many women come in condemned and feeling broken by these
soul ties but the good news is in the spiritual realm there is a way to undo
what you have done and to be renewed by the blood of Jesus Christ all right now
that's encouraging that's that is encouraging God's grace and mercy there
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