Welcome to the Mana Vault channel. It's VILQ here.
This time will be a bit unusual.
It's because while I was planning next few EDH decks I decided to check
how much truth is in a statement that
"Chinese proxies are much better now. In fact they are so good that
it's hard to distinguish them from the authentic cards."
As you all know the EDH decks
contain 1 copy of each (nonbasic) card.
It's tricky if you have multiple EDH decks
Aaand the most interesting cards are being used in many of them
It's very hard, honestly saying, to buy all cards for all decks so I decided
To try out how would look like those
famous Chinese proxies
which are also being sold as real cards
I personally condemn such behavior
However if we use them as a proxies
while we have such card and use it in another deck
I find it justified in this case.
This package arrived to me after (...)
38 days since ordering
Fun fact - it's nicely packed
and I wasn't expecting this
I was about to look at them as soon as they arrived, but when I saw this package
I'll open it on camera.
Now let's see what did we get inside
and how does it all look like.
Let's see one from the bottom
or maybe something that it would be easy to compare
Alright, let's take the Monolith
This is the real Grim Monolith
I must say that the front structure
is not bad in this case.
The back is still far far away
I'm not sure if you'll be able to see it
but there is some kind of grid on the back
Image is definitely blurry
The paper is
similar, hoverer these are softer
The colors in this case
are not bad, but
let's look at edition logo for example.
[I hope the camera will get focus]
As you can see there is a clear difference
between the original card and our Chinese proxy
Let's see what we could check next
Let it be Pact
We have our Pact somewhere... here.
So let's compare a newer card.
[focusing]
The decent quality of newer cards is the most probably due to better scans
The colors are yellowish
There is still that grid on the back and I assume that all cards will have that.
One more thing
There is a big difference in how card behaves next to another one
The original cards feel more slippery
Here you can feel some kind of resistance
like these cards were coated in some sort of wax.
And the surface is much more
shiny, still.
At least from what I saw
on other channels. (...) Here's Tomb.
Let's take a look at Tomb.
It's also an older card.
Colors are more vivid.
The quality is pretty good.
But it's a different card in hand
The structure is more rough
Let's compare the text
I must say that
from a distance you can pick wrong
The question is which one is real
[This one]
Let's see more
Misty... We have Misty from MM3
Flats. We should have Zendikar one.
In this case it's obvious if you hold it hand
that the card is thicker
and you can feel that
waxy surface
As you can see the card is
more shiny
Here we have fuzzy reflection
and this one is more focused.
Let's see an older card again
Stronghold will be another good example
Here you can spot it from a discance
Colors are more vivid and a bit
yellowish
And the back is blurry
(We have other version of Entomb)
Maze
In this case
The difference is clear to naked eye
I assume that you already see it
We don't even have to dig into details here
Of course it's easier
to compare such cards if you have an original next to it.
That's why
well... If you don't have an original
you might have a card printed in the same time
then it will be easier to determine
Anyway, if you're really into M:tG
then by the touch you'll be able to verify
if it's an original or
Chinese proxy
Now we have
something that we will have some fun with later on
I don't have an authentical one, but
I have card printed in same time
Both from Unlimited
for e.g. colors comarision
As you can see all these Chinese proxies have
still problems with
(fortunately!) matching colors
Fortunately they are being printed as a single layer printing
I have to admit that comparing
these to proxies that I have seen before
they are moving forward.
Well, my Intent is 'a bit' played and you can see that it's matt
but in case of
cards printed between
'99-2002
The biggest difference will be in
the quality of edition symbol
The original has clear and sharp edges
and proxy symbol is pixelated
Here we have out Altar
In this case the printing is darker,
less vivid colors
and the difference in edition symbol
Of course these cards aren't and won't be using same kind of paper
They're more flexible
(Easy, I know which is which)
Mana Vault
Alright, I won't compare these to the IVth edition, these are from
Unlimited
Same story
(focusing)
Much more vivid colors
The card is more shiny
I'll try to show you
how does that grid look like
maybe now you'll see it
and of course
the quality of printing the back is low
the 'circle' is pixelated
it's not and won't be that sharp as the real printing
(We should have Mox somewhere here)
Here it is
Fun fact. It's different here.
Mox Proxy is less vivid
The grid is everywhere
I have Mox Opal from MM
so there will be a difference
and we have Mana Crypt from EMA so there will be even more differences ;)
Well...
If you like to have a good quality proxies
and you are willing to wait 'a bit'
Then it's fine.
I waited 38 days to be exact.
But at least I'll have nice proxies in my decks.
All these proxies
will be stamped
to make sure they don't ever come to secondary market as a real cards
So I'm going to stamp them all right after I finish recording this video
To be sure and to make you sure
that if you happen to see a card like this...
Do not take it as an authentic card
OK
I do understand that if you buy cards online
any picture can be used
so you have to be careful
and do not buy cards from random people.
[EU info]
If you order cards abroad then
in most cases when buying on MCM there are no problems
[in most cases]
if you happen to receive such card
you can complaint
But one thing...
The thing that is very disturbing is a fact that
the quality of newer cards is getting better
If it's old cards then there is nothing to hide
Their quality is and will be behind
But in case on newer cards they're trying and unfortunately they're getting better
And now something that I planned to do in purpose
We will check
What kind of paper it is and what core does it use
So
We'll going to tear Black Lotus
well...
Prox Lotus ;)
So as you can see
it is a layered paper
but in this case it's black core paper
While the original cards use blue core paper
I do not recommend this method to verify the authenticity of the cards
I did it consciously and deliberately here
Now lets take...
an Impale
For comparision
The core inside is
blue. I hope that you can see it.
Now together
You can clearly see the difference
Thats all for today. Stay sharp and remember about your triggers.
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