This is Deliverance Ministry.FM videocast episode 2
Welcome to another episode of Deliverance Ministry.FM where we give
you proven insights about the demonic realm and deliverance ministry so you
can wage spiritual warfare more effectively this is Dr. Don ibbitson and
I'm here with my co-host D. Phyllis Tarbox and today we want to look at the
topic of spiritual warfare and break it down into its simplest and most basic
elements and I want to be clear about this we're gonna look at it from a kind
of a Christian counselor slash deliverance ministry perspective in
other words we're not gonna be up in the doing warfare up in the second heaven
and all these sort of things in that realm but this is really doing spiritual
warfare in the earthly realm here from you as an individual okay so I want to
be clear on that and even before we get started I want to just encourage you to
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podcast so with that Phyllis just like as the term deliverance ministry means
different things to different people so does spiritual warfare and I prompt you
like the extreme when you get upset because they say well gosh Jesus won the
victory the war's over really don't need to do spiritual warfare I wish that were
true Don I wish I mean I know Jesus died and he did die for us but it would be
lovely if the war was over and we were all ruling and reigning and we're not
there yet where there's a war we're in a battle
right good the thing is our team wins but we still have to go partner with the
holy spirit and the heavenly host and the blood of the Lamb to win that war
well I think so and I think it's use the word battle I think that's a good
analogy that you know we can say and sometimes that the victory has been won
Jesus won the factory but or still battles that's right and I've used the
exact giba for him and I've heard this I didn't come up with this but it speaks
to me in the realm of what happened with d-day some of your folks might not know
all the history there but in his second world war June 6 1944 the Allied forces
landed on the beaches of Normandy there in France of course with the objective
of overtaking the German fortifications there and they did
that and you know but Hitler knew and the Allies do if they could get that
foothold in on the beaches on the western part of Europe and then then
they would have the victory they could secure the victory because they'd had
coming at them from the Eastern Front and whatnot
so that was very important so that's successful landing of d-day really
secured the victory and the victory if you like was won then however the war
went on for well into April or May 1945 almost a year later so I think that's a
reasonable analogy the victories won Jesus is won the victory but there's
still battles going on overseas and so today we want to as I say just look at a
spiritual warfare hopefully give me some practical insights on what it is and how
to do it so ok good before we get into those let's maybe we should just address
a couple of basic premises that we that we want to consider before we talk about
that and and this this realm of who are we battling are we battling Satan or are
we battling demonic spirits does it make a difference well I think it does make a
difference I mean you know the demonic Kingdom is strategized you know it even
in Matthew 12 29 it says first you bind the strongman than you plunder his house
so that gives you an element of there's a strategy in the demonic ground we also
know in Matthew 12:43 that there are some that are more wicked than others
but Satan is like at the top of the echelon right so he's a finite being
he's a finite angel it can't be everywhere every every at all times so
you know weird battling powers and principalities in heavenly places and in
this dark world of part of his demonic team that are assigned to us but we are
not by the binding I don't believe we're battling him he's more interested in
kings and presidents and we've said that before but over large areas that I don't
know that he's really interested in you and I well I think I think that's true
and to me that's an indicator when I hear somebody saying while I'm battling
Satan that tells me that that maybe they don't have it maybe you're just using a
term loosely you know I really don't have an in-depth understanding of
whoever battling me you said it's true you know God and Satan are not equal
opposites Nishant embraces everywhere
knows all when satan is not he was a powerful angel and having kicked out of
heaven and we understand that but he is one
des moines here at the rules of reasons so and as you say there in the second
heaven which i've been touched on we're not going to talk about doing spiritual
warfare and dealing with principalities there's people that move in that realm
and intercessory prayer that's not our focus here ours is on the earthly realm
that's right we're not we're not you know not that we couldn't be blessed
with strategic level intercession but as deliverance ministers we deal with
people yes and we deal with demons that affect people yeah we focus here first
heaven that's the realm or focus and that's the focus of what we're going to
talk about in terms of spiritual warfare so somebody said well you're missing
this or what about this you know we're just gonna try to narrow the focus here
to talk about and helping us as individuals are you the listeners and
individual ones some elements of spiritual warfare them and you touched
on the nature or enemy then we're battling these demonic spirits mhm
they're created beings talk about it in Matthew 12:43 and forty to forty five
that these spirits some are more wicked than others right that scripture says
these devils also have minds they have wills they get tired yeah you have a
motion yet mentally you're mostly tired because the spirit the scripture really
says that when a spirit comes out of a man
it goes to dry and uninhabited places seeking rest and then finding none that
spirit says hmm I'm gonna come back to the house from where I came but that
kind of encourages me to that that's seeking rest and finding none because
you know what I like to think of it this way that as part of God's army we have
unlimited resources right but the enemy is on he's the kind of on a limited
budget so he gets kind of wore out we can wear them out we can out way and we
we've got that authority to do that so yeah it's a battle but that's a good
picture yeah exactly we can't wear them out and and you use the word authority
we have then that's the thing you know believers need to know and understand we
shouldn't be fearful of the demonic realm Jesus has given us power and
authority over examine yes I think many times if we as believers walked in that
more and knew how to do warfare more effectively they walked in the power
authority we have we would be much more effective in not going through a lot of
things that we go through that's exactly right so that's kind of what we're
trying to touch on here in this in this in this podcast so we're battling these
created beings they have Minds they have wills that communicate they got a
mission for our life right 10 10 says kill steal and destroy that's not a
really good mission is it no no but it's pretty clear it's you know that's what
they're here against us and so that's who we're battling yeah we're battling
these demonic spirits they've been defeated on the cross but
they still really do have power and work in in our lives here on earth that's it
they do have power people like to say they don't have power they have power
here they do not have authority yes and that's a big difference and the two are
different right and that's just I think that's it that's a big distinction and
because you know you just look at what's happening in people's lives even believe
it yes say and the many lives you've train-wrecked and I wrecked these
demonic Kingdom are still doing that they're able to do that if people love
Jesus they pray they go to church say well how can that be if the devils have
no power well they do have power but we can have the victory over but we need to
appropriate that and there's these different elements and aspects of
spiritual warfare that we can war on mm-hmm
in the personal level and and we're going to touch on this we go forward but
I don't think it's too early to to talk about one of them the real main
battlefields if you like is it's gonna be our mind right that's right that's
right the mind they put thoughts in they can't read
your mind and and I've said this before but I always think of the enemy like a
used car salesman Don you know he likes to like to throw all these thoughts I
just see if he can get you to bite on one of them you know if he throws enough
at you chances are is that ratio may may increase you know so you kind of are in
this thought battle and in Joyce Myers calls it the battlefield of the mind
that's and that's exactly what he does he tries to get you in an agreement with
that lie based thinking so eventually you think it's your own thoughts and you
just kind of move along with them exactly exactly and that's and as we
tell people you know you can't stop thoughts from coming in you know people
get asked to think it's the sin of the thoughts they don't know you can't stop
us from coming in but you certainly can do something about them when they come
in we're gonna hit on those so that's what we're talking about spiritual
warfare different elements of it and from our perspective as Christian
counselor deliverance ministry is today we want to
focus really on three different aspects are ways of waging spiritual warfare and
I'm just gonna lay them out right from the get-go when it comes to demonic
spirits we talking about driving out demons mhm
which is deliverance ministry the second part of doing warfare is resisting
spirits news talks about that in his book James 4:7 mhm and also another
third area is in the realm of binding spirits so driving out demons are
driving out spirits resisting spirits and binding spirits so that's what we're
gonna talk about ok let's talk about the first one driving out demons we call
that deliverance that's it that is that is it so just briefly I mean you know
there's obviously it's been lots of time and we rather you know teachings on that
that we do but what do you what do you really want people say about deliverance
ministry here in terms of this of this session today this podcast about driving
out demons like how you do it and who can do it let's start with that well I
think you know the you know God gave us clear authority on how to do it he told
them to go in the name and blood of Jesus Christ we have authority because
of that because of the work of the cross and anyone can do it I mean in you know
we talked about in mark 16 that he said these signs will follow those that
believe in my name they will cast out demons in my name so we know it's our
Commission and the people that do what are those that are called I don't
believe you have to have any special qualifications you don't have to be
perfect you don't have to have no strongholds or bondages in your own life
if it's your passion and you want to want to work in that anyone can be
called to do it as a believer yeah I think and as we see this I know people
have different views on these things and and there's certainly there's different
models and different ways of doing deliverance we you can do it at the
altar you can do it upfront you can do it in a small group you do it one-on-one
there's different ways of doing it and so and you know as you say we're of the
view that if you you know it's not about being perfect if there was only perfect
people could do deliverance there'd be nobody doing to live that's a God sir so
you know it's just a matter of walking with Lord recce walking the power and
authority that we've been given and if you have a desire I mean that's how it
was with me and practice with the u.s. I got
exposed to it at a seminar my wife and I did together and something is yeah I
would say something inside of me I was god say wow I'd like to do that and
started on that journey to do that I'm here we you know 1718 years later we're
into it knee-deep and you are as well and I got exposed to it at one of your
seminars you know we've learned a lot from people who not before us what we
can do do do to to teach and treating others how to do it too but that's the
bottom line it is driving out of demons and one of the questions I think it's
fair to ask it something over listening well how do you know you know who needs
deliverance and second of all how do you know what what what do what are the
indicators if you might say that someone might benefit from having deliverance
ministry well I think you know anyone can benefit from having deliverance
ministry certainly we don't live here and not face opposition from the enemy
and oftentimes we fail and since so many people need I would say everyone needs
to go through deliverance but with people that you know or people that you
love I mean I can speak for myself I mean I felt like I was in church my
whole life I was doing the right things I was you know going to church and
reading the word but I still had things that were causing me to stumble and trip
him frankly my life was just not a very fragrant picture for the Lord I mean it
was pretty smelly and you know I like analogies so I think about it like I
used to like to water-ski and Clearwater Beach Don and so you know I I had the
right boat I had the right tow rope I had the right skis but it felt like I
was always waterskiing in a lake of mud I was just never really getting the
victory I was never getting anywhere because I had all this demonic
oppression on me and I think that's an indication of when someone needs you
know they need help they know that they're just not fulfilling the call
that God had on their life and sometimes you know people I and certainly that's
true and sometimes it's it's tough to diagnose that on your own necessarily
yeah and and and one of the indicators might just be hey look if you tried
everything else you know you've tried counseling in prayer you fasted you
you've been to the altar you've been to the pastor those some area of your life
I think you put it succinctly and it's pretty good it were you can't get
the video and it could be depression could be anger it could be fear could be
addictions substance abuse could be perversions pornography those are
indicators or evidences and I agree with you I we believe deliverance is for
everybody I mean we're not - no shame to admit it here we get deliverance prayed
for us Wow design yeah I think you know how to use the product yeah we do it we
believe in it and it's not just a one-time thing I've heard some people
say well I got my deliverance in 1989 and I'm thinking oh I said wow that's a
long time yeah I'm not sure it's like changing oil in a car as maybe three
miles or or three months or three thousand miles but it some period of
time we can reopen doors yeah believe in spirits and it can be an ongoing thing
things happen things happen and so but those are just an indicator areas of
your life where a person can't get the victory or their good signs and now what
about can you do deliverance on somebody who doesn't want it I mean if people
somebody I'm just trying to lay their hands on somebody and just start casting
spirits out do you know I get that question from people all the time
laughter they've gone through their deliverance on their own they say well
now well I can go home and I can get these things out of my husband and or my
wife you know and I remind them that the deliverance time that they were in the
office they actually sat there and they they were in agreement with us with
their free will as we called those spirits out so no you can't just go home
and perform deliverance on people who aren't in agreement I mean you know
they've got to close some doors or some repentance there's some things that need
to be done in order for these spirits water really co-op yeah they have to
cooperate absolutely their free will is important well we think so and you see
that and you know in the scripture Jesus didn't heal didn't deliver everybody but
everybody who came to him or was bribed him and faith he didn't he healed and
delivered them all so we think that that is important and of course it goes you
know was wants to say is one of those topics there's debate in the church you
know it's that whether or not it's for today and whether that's for Christians
and I'd say on both of those were we're pretty emphatic yet we believe it is for
today it is and that it is for Christians it is relieved is also right
yes absolutely absolutely okay in the scripture for that we talked
about in mark 16:17 about driving out demons and Jesus is the same today
yesterday and forever and and he says hey you know you should do what I've
been doing and that was one of the things he spent doing so one element of
spiritual warfare is driving out demons and man you know where's a lot we could
say on that a nurse and there's a lot of different ways of doing it but it is a
viable present day ministry so yeah and I even heard you say last night too that
you know every every Church should have their own deliverance ministry you know
that they we sadly have you know men's groups women's group singles groups
children's ministries but not deliverance ministries and you know even
in our seminar you know as we're going through one this weekend there was a lot
of people that flew in from out of town and you know you in the secular world
people would be really happy to have a packed house like we have but you know
honestly these people should have these ministries set up in their own churches
where they can get to them a lot easier than having to fly 2,300 miles to get to
one well I agree and we you know we we we have people come in from some of
these seminars I mean as we were able we do deliverance over the internet or web
conferencing and Skype and hey we're happy to do that yes but objective and I
believe as you said God's call would be that it would be in every church yeah in
every city in every area people should go for good competent and I emphasize
the word competent all deliverance ministries aren't created equal some are
pretty wacky some of the things I see scare me people come in sometimes you're
scared but when I see them they wonder what we're gonna do if we're gonna yell
at them or knock them down yeah no we're not gonna do that look at I appreciate
the fact there's not one way of doing it some people are up front of there is
more about manifestations of things and and so I'm you know it's just there's
different ways of doing but we're peaceful yeah we we we have a we have an
approach that's different it's it's a little more it's we prepare people and
it is a little more quiet in general is more approach we use but having said
that there are different ways of doing it and but the bottom line is you said
is every we don't contend that it needs to be more widespread in the church I
believe it is coming back so that's one aspect of deliverance ministry the
second realm is what we would call resisting spirits spirits convenience
that's for deliverance crane one there the outside these created beings then we
need to resist them so what what is the key what's what what about that and the
scripture for that do you know for that that talks about resisting spirits I
know it's in James 4:7 that if you resist the devil he will flee right
right but I think you know when you we have authority over what we think about
as well so like if the demons have been cast out of us you know they may come
back and try to put thoughts in us but we really like you that you have said
before you got to think about what you're thinking about and take those
thoughts captive to the obedience of Jesus Christ it's not always that you
have to you know cast spirits out or command them to go it could be just your
thinking process too or it could be the enemy just throwing those thoughts in so
the blood and the name of Jesus Christ is very important what's always what
you're saying then is it that's one of the ways we can discern the enemy right
it's from the fonts yeah cuz I think that's right we got to be able to
discern the beast the demonic realm right you just and the analogy is boxing
I've you know I've used that with people it's because people can relate to boxing
you could take the best boxer in the world if you blindfold them mm-hmm right
he's gonna get pounded because he can't see you gotta be able to see so that's
good one of the things he's is being able to discern and see these spirits
and I think you know you touched on it it talks about the thought way free so
just you know why think you want to add about the font life or how the dimeric
spirit you know they will you like they will throw thoughts at you you you know
try to get you to come into agreement with them and to think think the things
that they're thinking and like I said before you need to take those thoughts
captive and and replace the thought ungodly thoughts with good thoughts I
mean that's part of the battle and that's what it says in Philippians 4:8
is that were to meditate on things that are good that are praised or Z that are
lovely and as you do that you know the good thing is that that the enemy goes
when you start worshiping the Lord I mean it's a proven fact when you start
to think about those things that are good and you start to praise the Lord
the enemy hates that on quite honestly he'll go
if you're gonna just start you know speaking out the Word of God or
declaring it into the atmosphere and praising the Lord that's like I think I
have this picture that it's like fingernails on a chalkboard to the enemy
so that's a very good way to take those you know to get him out of your
atmosphere because he can be like trying to throw those thoughts at you
well and I think what you said it's so important he throw these thoughts and
typically be many times the demonic Kingdom when they're trying to open
doors are reopened right they will remind you of stuff that's happened to
you in the past or maybe somebody else has done to you or your own stuff yeah
things that might normally cause you to feel guilt or shame or condemned and
that's that's this whole thing about taking replacing the yeah and that
ungodly thoughts with godly thoughts is you've got it to be most effective you
gotta know the word right yes you have to know the word
I remember you bring that up it just gives me a thought about last year when
we went on television you know that that whole that whole week before the enemy
was just dragging up my past and he was trying to condemn me and bring up her
and say you I cannot do this because everybody's gonna know who you are and
you know how the enemy does because we were all we're all transform nor paths
praise God but he was trying to dredge that all up and make me feel guilty and
ashamed and you know I kind of bought into it for a few minutes when I was
thinking about it one of the days and then it was like wait a minute I am NOT
that person anymore and you have no authority to drag me back to my past
there's a Jesus Christ bloodline between me and who that person used to be and
you have to go in the name of Jesus Christ and you know Don immediately had
just stopped but I think the enemy yeah that's his ploy trying to drag you back
into the past with a regret guilt shame kind of keep that will rerun going over
and over again and that's where the mine that's how you resisting taking those
thoughts captive you know I granted it's it's easier to say than it is to do
something because you know where thoughts you know but all of us said he
just tells us he's gonna take the thoughts captive and cast down these
imaginations and so that's one of the elements I mean all we want to say is
and highlight on this is that when they're resisting the spirits when they
come back is taken the thoughts captive think about what you're thinking you
know and and that's a way to resistance and replace those ungodly pots with the
truth and speaking those out makes a difference because now you can't hear us
the yeah they can't or they can't hear us
they can't read our money that's right so it's speaking the word out into your
atmosphere is one good way to get them to go exactly so that's one way of
resisting spirits so discerning the spirits by the thought life capturing
the thoughts thinking about what you're thinking about recognizing those ungodly
thoughts and then you can deal with the demonic realm you see and we're the
first to say hey we thought scum variety places there's not even behind every
problem but when these Devils do come back you see when they're right they are
able to put these thoughts right so that one way of resisting them so that's one
element of resisting demons another element of spiritual warfare that's on a
very personal and practical level and that we talked about is is the realm of
binding yeah demons deliverance is driving them out and you said you want a
willing and active participant but what about binding demons how can that how
does a person do that and how can that help somebody well I think I can think
it really can really can help us you know because we'd like we've talked
about we do have authority so you know one of the things I think about is
people that complain about their jobs about how they hate going to work
because they work with all these ungodly people well you know you have authority
to bind up the spirits that are in operation in those people and loose the
things that you want to see an operation of them that's Matthew 16:19 we you know
would bind those things that are bound on earth and happen and loose those
things that are loosed in heaven so we have that authority of binding and
loosing so we don't have to put up with that harassment through other people you
know and one of my favorite things is you know have I have many friends but
you know there's been a few of them that have gotten onto a negative you know
toxic spin and when you have to go out to dinner with them or sit with them and
they're gonna be in that drudgery of that negative talking you know you have
authority to bind up that kind of negative word cursing type of stuff that
goes on so I did and when you take authority over that prior to going into
an atmosphere and you loose what you want to have I will guarantee you you'll
have a wonderful evening at dinner you can have a wonderful time at work if
you've got a gut teenagers like I had for the people like how to give an
example I think that's a good one like let's say you're driving to that
restaurant you wanted dinner what I mean just as an example what would you say I
would say I would say that I bind up every spirit of
then I would you know begin to speak them out loud if it's negativity
murmuring and complaining bitterness resentment anger in that person speak
their name out loud and then in the name and blood of Jesus Christ and then loose
what you want to see in them the fruits of the spirit typically is what I lose
love joy peace goodness kindness that sort of thing when you bind and you
loose then you're gonna have those spirits are gonna be shut down for a
period of time you're not remember you're not driving them out of the
person you are binding them from operating through that person and that
person's will you know depending on how strong those spirits are you know
eventually they'll come unbound and they'll come back into operation again
so you you know you may have to take a bathroom break in the middle of dinner
dawn and go bind them up again but it's worth your evening well it is and you
have so many examples of that yeah that one Peters teach people to do over work
situations where if you've got a bad work situation and you got a 30-minute
Drive or subway ride or whatever to work just be doing you see buying up the
spirits I bind up that spirit of the demonic spirit of sarcasm that spirit of
profanity and Joe and I and I bind up a spirit of control and anger and Mary and
you know and just do those things and then say Lord I loose your Holy Spirit
upon Joe and I thank you Lord for you and Mary I thank you Lord that your
spirit pours out upon them that you reveal yourself to them more than your
little Lord and thank you for the blood of Jesus over the office I thank you
more the peace and joy just declaring scripture like you say Lucy may heaven
on earth binding up demonic spirits and then and then just see what God does
with that is great with you got an ex-wife or an ex-husband that you're
still involved with because it kids yeah yeah that's you know people you know I
understand when you get divorced you might be done with the ex-wife but
you're not done with the child's mother you know a child's father it's still
involved so that works there we'll have teenagers then I had two teenagers a
year part when I would bind it stuff up on my way home every day from work
I've got testimonial we don't have time to hear family members for salvation yes
you bind up the spirit at least the Holy Spirit upon man you do it by faith and
you do it I mean consistently and persistently
because as you said spirits can be loosed again and my you might have to do
this you know years and that salvation of
family members where it's taken years people bound up in addictions you bind
up the spirits and see how long consistently and persistently in faith
that's right because 1,000 years is one day unto the Lord so you know what that
we need to stay in the battle and stay on our garden once again these are just
things that are biblical or scriptural that you just persist and do it
persistently they're always easy to do you know but you come back to that just
do it it is an element of spiritual warfare binding up them on experience
and other people and as you said it is not deliverance not the same no you're
making them inactive first season so we talked about driving out demons
resisting demons binding demons okay somebody's sitting there listen to this
say well gosh I don't know how to do that or okay this is good I start how do
I start become proficient what are the keys to them starting to move in this
and maybe becoming better at it if I can use those terms well I think you've got
to connect with the church that has a heart for deliverance ministry or
spiritual warfare - and understand you know some of the tenets of warfare
certainly I sat in church for the better part of my life and never even heard
about it until I was much older and that kind of made me a little irritated but I
saw you so you have to find those churches that believe in that and then
certainly you know get your hands on some good books
you mentioned and frequently refer to Derek Prince you know I was blessed to
read some things through Frank and I to me him and and you know different people
that have a lot of good resources right yeah yeah so and then if you if you need
if you need to live rinse yourself you need to find a deliverance ministry
where you're gonna be able to go through and get it you know that's gonna that's
gonna help you in the long run as well so that will help for sureit's
deliverance is like I said one of those things and everybody emphasized I
believe everybody should get deliverance I should receive it and go through it
and then we taught we touched on it some but then in second Corinthians Paul
talks about all the spiritual gifts one of them is that gifting of discerning of
spirits and and you know and God gives generously we believe you you asked for
it believe that you've received it and you just start walking in it right and
also how do I do that well you just start saying I
asking for it I believe that I haven't and one of the ways you can start is
just think about what you're thinking about and just keep track of the
thoughts that are coming in and you discern or pick up something in another
person God where anytime we reveal it to your or ask God to show you what's going
on here and don't be concerned well it's just me I don't know if it's my thoughts
or God's thoughts well you know you make your head hurt thinking about K
sometimes just sometimes you just say no I'm asking for this gift yeah that's not
a gives gifts you asking and believe you received and give yourself and you might
need some help some mentoring help with that I get that and some part of it you
said that helps me not being a lone ranger being any good definitely do not
want to be a lone ranger in deliverance ministry right and that's for sure but
and also in the realm of you know will church the believes in it you believers
and give yourself grace to grow in it and to time and develop maturity and
Bend so that's look at people train you can be trains not a spiritual warfare
isn't a gift it's it's something you trained in you come on God says he
trains our hands for war really know exactly the end so that's that means
it's a process and there's gonna be you know you're gonna just grow in it some
successes and some maybe some perceived failures along the way but you just say
Lord I'm committed to doing this the spiritual warfare because it is real and
I want to get better at it so for my part I'll just say you know there's I
wish there was more in-depth teaching in the churches about spiritual warfare
this tactical things no I you know just learning the nuts and bolts of
delivering of the spiritual war for how to discern the spirits how to do
deliverance even the realm of just binding in spirits and I just if you're
not getting in your church fine hopefully and you know finding church is
doing it or start doing the studying on your own so I would that's something I
would really want to encourage our listeners to do any final thoughts you
have about spiritual warfare in this context well I just believe as believers
that God gave us you know that authority over every living thing here in Genesis
1:26 so you know we have to appropriate the blood the name of Jesus Christ used
the authority that he's given us and honestly Don once I went through
deliverance and I was I realized that these keys worked it became really fun
to use the authority that he gave gave me you know he trained me like you said
and brought me through and so it's you know it's kind of an exciting thing to
watch what you've read in the Bible work for you after you go through deliverance
so I'm I'm encouraged you know and of course we're always here for people that
need help or a greater understanding on how to take authority over some of their
admire environment or go through deliverance
so exactly it's like you say you just you believe it you just start doing it
you train and you just start walking these things out right and just see how
God responds well we hope you've enjoyed this this session we would very much
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