So, much of your writing has focused on prominent female figures from history,
Josephine, Emma Hamilton, and now the rival Queens Mary Queen of Scots and
Elizabeth the first, and I just wondered why you feel it's important to write
about these women from our history? Well I enjoy it, I really do, and I'm really
fascinated by the lives of women and I think that's been an incredible move
during last five indeed, every year, move forward of women and history of women
and saying to ourselves actually the lives of women is really important
there's still some let's have someone saying to me you teach a course in
history we would still mean what's the point of that but things are really
changing and I think that's marvelous and we are seeing that these women have
such important lives and also that their questions of their power it's very
important to look at and there's lots more to be said about them but I do
think that um I mean I don't know but once I publish it I have this idea about
watching a book about a man and my publisher to me really and maybe maybe
she was right maybe I don't understand men as well I don't know you're one of
the few historians along with Allison where who can write in both historical
fiction and historical nonfiction how difficult is it to do that well I'm I
mean I love Allison I think she's fantastic I think her novels of
brilliant our history is brilliant I love historical novels and III do write
both and I really think it actually is really good for me I think that it means
I keep the imaginative speculation out of my history books the they were
thinking this even though you don't know that people occasionally wear the odd
imaginative reconstruction was wedding nights but you really wouldn't know
unless they put out a report what went on there so I think it keeps the
imagination in in the novel was because a nonfiction book you really it is about
the source is about what they say and you really have to very careful you
often feel you know something but you may have a careful about it and soon as
they don't tell you what you need to say I mean my first book wasn't Hamilton and
she met Marie Antoinette when my Antoinette was in house arrest
the Twitter it's before she went before she tried to escape and them was in
prisons so she was essentially one of the last people from the outside world
to meet the tragic Queen Marie Antoinette in the private meeting
between the two of them and a Mohammedan writes in her letter I met Marie
Antoinette and we had a conversation and that's it
it's the most heartbreaking thing I mean so awful I mean what do they say and
what I mean oh gosh I can't believe it and of course in a novel you'd make a
big big scene of it in the movie in the TV version of Emma Hamilton we do make a
big film scene of it but in a nonfiction book I just had to say they met Lee had
a conversation all my editor said to me american-canadian but she said it all
says this isn't enough tell us more I said well there isn't any
more because if there is I would have to make it out so I mean I put a bit about
how other people said Marion to Antonette looked at the time and but
there's no father you can go so I do think that it mean it mean it means you
get the imagination out of the nonfiction then keep and the means I
didn't put the fat dump in the fiction so it's give me but I can't I can't
write and want them at the same time it's one of the other I mean it Asian
you know might be looking at the proofs of warm while I'm writing another that's
one thing but but to really get in the zone and you know producing the burqa
and hitting the kernel of the book it's it's one of the other and I do find it
is a very different mindset yes as loads of research you have to do for fiction
and lots of archival research but it's it's slightly different because you're
catching the ball and whenever you want and if you're not writing about a real
person as I as I don't so so I feel that I'm a different person when I'm writing
fiction and when I'm writing history there to two different people and but I
enjoy that division so your work hasn't solely focused on royal figures from our
past you've also been involved in a lot of work with our current royal family
most recently including the wedding of Harry and Megan I just wondered what
that experience is like oh well I mean it's it's so wonderful I mean I always
wanted to write but I never thought that I'd have the chance to be on TV and I
love breaking news people say to me don't you hate it
don't you get nervous about breaking news but I love it I love the adrenaline
I love news stories and I've done so many wonderful events the war wedding in
2011 Diamond Jubilee and all kinds went to me I did they cover the Scottish
referendum which was really interesting and I did they even get called in to
cover the referendum on membership of Europe the brexit referendum but I think
that's three o'clock when when it was very clear that the result was not
necessarily what everyone had expected and they've always say we're going so I
was thinking mmm this is a bit different if we thought they didn't really need to
historians talk about the history the EU then so I didn't obviously know but but
iid I mean it's a it's wonderful to cover these big huge commemorative
events and you know talk a and and be part of the team there and it's just you
get such great access as well and I did the royal wedding in 2011 we were
literally just outside Westminster Abbey so we had such an amazingly close view
of Kate Middleton coming out of her car it was it was it was a super superband
and you know that's a wonderful thing with TVs forget this amazing access into
one program a young Victoria we had Westminster Abbey to ourselves and one
behind and all the statues and it was superb so I you know I I you know I love
I love news I love being part of it of the news agenda and and and I you know
there are lots more big wall events to come so what's next for you I am working
on a new fact book quite a secret I'm in a very early stage just blown deep in
the archives deep in the letters and these all these amazing letters and so
I'm finally hot Sloot new things I'm very excited
well we can't wait to read your book and thank you so much for talking to us
today it's been brilliant thank you so much for having me Gemma it's been
fantastic to be a part of viral history in everything you do so I'm cool to be
here
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